He COULD NOT Believe His Ears When He Heard This...
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Summary
In this episode, we talk about the abortion crisis in America and how it ties back to racism and eugenics. We discuss abortion, abortion access, and the role of race in the abortion system. We also discuss abortion as a poor reproductive choice and the impact it has on minority populations.
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I think in the majority of cases, abortion is a cop-out.
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And the reason I think this is because 40% of women that get an abortion have had two or more.
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They're not tracking which women are going to get abortions in the future,
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so arguably that number could be higher, right?
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And we have so many different forms of birth control, right?
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We have condoms, we have IUDs, we have that thing that they put in your arm
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that are 99.5% effective, 98, this guy wanted to argue 98%, that's still pretty effective, right?
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So we have all these ways that we can prevent pregnancies,
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and if you still get pregnant, it's a cop-out for your poor decision.
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I mean, I don't completely disagree, but I don't know if I completely agree either.
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A lot of people argue that, okay, so what about people who are financially unable to look after the child,
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or they, you know, are raped, or things of its nature?
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So this is one misconception, is that poor people get abortions at higher rates than richer people.
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So actually only 8% of women below the poverty line are getting abortions,
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where one out of three women that make $47,000 per year or more are getting an abortion.
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So it's the majority of the women that are getting these abortions can't afford it.
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And so to me, it's like, if you make $47,000 a year, you can afford condoms, right?
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So it's really, it seems like the majority are just, it's a fail-safe for a poor reproductive choice that you made.
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So then why do you think abortion is pushed so much?
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Why do you think it's something that is, like, really heavily pushed by the media, by certain influences,
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and we see it so much nowadays, especially as a younger generation?
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This is something a lot of people don't know about.
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Do you know where Planned Parenthood's roots in the U.S.?
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Yeah, and so I think there's a group of elites, honest, this is a conspiracy, don't,
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I know the comments are going to be like, you do, you don't, this is, this is, this part is conspiracy.
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But I think there's a group of elites that believe in population control, and I think that's why they're doing it.
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And that's why 80% of Planned Parenthoods in the U.S. are in minority communities.
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The black population in the U.S. would be double today.
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And so it's like, if Nike was founded by a racist, people would be on the streets.
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Especially when Margaret Sanger's grandson, they talk about how they want to market it to minority women,
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and they talk about how they want to, they make it a woman of color issue.
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And like, that's how they market it to minority in her project, it was called the N-Word Project.
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He's in New York, he was the head of Planned Parenthood in all of New York,
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and he was interviewed about Roe versus Wade, and he uses the same language.
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Like, this affects women of color when anyone can get an abortion.
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I think that's something a lot of people should know about, the roots of Planned Parenthood,
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especially when it ties to race and minority populations in America.
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A lot of people will say that removing the choice to get an abortion is an infringement on women's rights,
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and that it's going to keep kind of coming after women's rights and that kind of thing.
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So it kind of brings in a feminist movement with, are they going to go after women's votes?
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Are they going to go after women being able to do this and do that?
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So what do you think about that in terms of a women's rights perspective?
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It's like, I think the child's rights, at conception there's a unique DNA sequence
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that's different from the mother and the father's, right?
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That DNA sequence has the eye color, hair color, personality traits.
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And in China, you see something where they're aborting women.
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And that's the problem with abortion, is it becomes a slippery slope to eugenics,
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where a lot of the arguments I hear people make are something along the lines of
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poor people shouldn't live and shouldn't be alive.
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When everyone on Earth is richer than most people were in all of human history.
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I think a lot of people also get caught up with the whole point-of-life discussion.
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So a lot of people who are kind of pro-life will say that as soon as the sperm and the egg
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kind of come together, that is somewhat a form of life starting.
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But it seems to be this kind of, as you said, slippery slope as to where life starts.
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And I think if, I don't think, I personally don't demonize those who are pro-life or pro-choice,
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because I think they both come from a point of, like, I see where they're coming from, both sides.
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I feel like one side gets heavily demonized, and the conversation just gets completely skewed.
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And that's why I didn't want to answer you over there.
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Because as soon as I say pro-life, nobody wants to hear anything.
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Because another thing is, a lot of people, I think if they saw what abortions looked like,
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They crush the head and they vacuum it out for surgical abortions.
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Yeah, and if they did that to puppies, people would be in uproar.
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Yeah, and I, again, this isn't something, and they also, a lot of people say,
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oh, you know, as men, we shouldn't have an opinion on this kind of stuff.
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So I think it's interesting that you as a woman, who, you know,
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seems to kind of have a fork in the discussion, is giving you an opinion.
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Because if I was here with this, no one would bother listening to me.
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As a woman, I think it's important that women have this discussion amongst themselves.
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And try to, like, have a dialogue that kind of looks at both sides of the spectrum.
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But I think the last two weeks, the whole Roe v. Wade thing, yeah, it was, you couldn't escape it.
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Like, I wasn't exactly sure where I was with it, because, again, I'm not going to say I'm pro-life or pro-choice.
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I think there are some situations where I don't blame a woman for getting an abortion.
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Again, if she's underage and she's, and that kind of, I get that.
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But, you know, when it is used as a form of contraception, as you said, that most people get two or more,
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that, to me, just seems like a sort of contraception.
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And that is something that I don't think a lot of people know about.
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If they knew that abortion was used as a form of contraception, maybe the discussion would be a bit different, I think.
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I've heard the term, but I can't tell you exactly what it is.
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Hypergamy is basically like women date across and up hierarchies.
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And so a girl wants to know when she has a kid, that's the best I can do.
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So that's why you see a lot of girls chasing after rich guys trying to get their kids, right?
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And to me, abortion is the ultimate form of hypergamy, because she's saying, this isn't the best I could do.
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Because if a girl is really into you, she is not aborting that kid.
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That's interesting. I mean, I can't speak to that.
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That's an interesting part of the conversation, how finance, how economics, how social status plays a part into it.
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A lot of people say things like, oh, especially me as a man, you know, you're not carrying the child.
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I mean, again, I would love to say there was advocate to what you're saying.
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But everything you're kind of saying are things I've thought myself.
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Well, but again, when I found out the roots of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, eugenics, reducing the black population, that's something that I can't ignore.
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So a lot of black people should know this kind of stuff.
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A lot of minority people should know this stuff about where the whole push for abortion came from, especially in our communities.
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You know, it's not something that we should just willy-nilly go along with.
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Don't just go along with what the media and everything everyone's telling you, because history will say something different.
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And that's the crazy thing is I don't understand why people don't freak out about this information.
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Like, and it's the same people running the organizations.
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And a lot of times the arguments you hear about abortion are honestly a form of eugenics, which indicate that people of lower IQ should be exterminated.
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I don't think people know that's what they're arguing.
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But when they start to bring out, well, she can't afford those kids.
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Well, most people are richer today than they ever could have been in human history.
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So in terms of the whole kind of discussion around abortion and that, so I'm guessing you're American.
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Do you think there's a difference between how Americans view the conversation and how British people view the conversation?
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Like, people are a lot more pro-choice here, in my experience.
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Like, when I bring this sign out, I'm, like, more scared here.
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But, like, it's just, I find that, like, there's more people that agree with me in the U.S.
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If I went to L.A., that would probably be a difference.
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I mean, again, I think the whole kind of thing with pro-choice and pro-life is a bit, again,
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even to me, that's a bit skewed because pro-choice is, okay, everyone should have a choice in life, I suppose.
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Everyone should have a choice to do whatever they want, right?
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But, and then you've got pro-life is basically saying, I want these children to live.
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I feel like it's not exactly fair because if you're pro-life, it's like, oh, you're the most extreme person ever.
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We put you out of any sort of, like, civil discourse.
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But then if you're pro-choice, you can be pro-choice but for the most part still want the child to live on most occasions.
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So you can actually be pro-choice but have more in common with someone who's pro-life than someone who's really, like, oh, pro-abortion, yeah, get it, get it, get it all the time.
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So I feel like even that is still a bit skewed.
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I don't think it's a fair point to kind of, you know.
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I believe in Northern Ireland is still not legal.
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No, I meant, like, how long, like, how far along I can get an abortion and a pregnancy.
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I actually really enjoyed talking to these two people because they were just very open to, like, listening and learning.
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And I really enjoy conversations where I feel like I'm learning from them, they're learning from me.
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And it's not just a heated debate or, you know, I believe what I believe regardless of any facts, data, or statistics.
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So, no, do you know the earliest child that survived birth?
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Probably, like, four, five months or something like that.
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So, some of these kids, like, could hypothetically survive.
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Yeah, could be real living people, breathing people.
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After you're saying that, I can't pretend like that sits right with me.
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A lot of people knowing five months are long, six months are long, then you terminate the pregnancy.
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When it's the life of the mother, most pro-lifers would agree.
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But if there's not a true health risk going on, I would really struggle to find peace with somebody doing that.