JustPearlyThings - November 15, 2023


He COULD NOT Believe His Ears When He Heard This...

Topics
abortion history
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Hannah Pearl Davis
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Margaret Sanger Steph Curry
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In this episode, we talk about the abortion crisis in America and how it ties back to racism and eugenics. We discuss abortion, abortion access, and the role of race in the abortion system. We also discuss abortion as a poor reproductive choice and the impact it has on minority populations.

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00:00:00.000 I think in the majority of cases, abortion is a cop-out.
00:00:03.740 And the reason I think this is because 40% of women that get an abortion have had two or more.
00:00:08.880 They're not tracking which women are going to get abortions in the future,
00:00:12.260 so arguably that number could be higher, right?
00:00:14.960 And we have so many different forms of birth control, right?
00:00:17.900 We have condoms, we have IUDs, we have that thing that they put in your arm
00:00:21.520 that are 99.5% effective, 98, this guy wanted to argue 98%, that's still pretty effective, right?
00:00:28.320 So we have all these ways that we can prevent pregnancies,
00:00:31.320 and if you still get pregnant, it's a cop-out for your poor decision.
00:00:34.660 I mean, I don't completely disagree, but I don't know if I completely agree either.
00:00:38.940 A lot of people argue that, okay, so what about people who are financially unable to look after the child,
00:00:44.900 or they, you know, are raped, or things of its nature?
00:00:49.400 I know that that's a minority.
00:00:51.300 So this is one misconception, is that poor people get abortions at higher rates than richer people.
00:00:56.560 So actually only 8% of women below the poverty line are getting abortions,
00:01:00.480 where one out of three women that make $47,000 per year or more are getting an abortion. 0.99
00:01:05.580 So it's the majority of the women that are getting these abortions can't afford it. 1.00
00:01:09.740 Right, right. Okay.
00:01:10.960 And so to me, it's like, if you make $47,000 a year, you can afford condoms, right?
00:01:16.360 So it's really, it seems like the majority are just, it's a fail-safe for a poor reproductive choice that you made.
00:01:21.800 So then why do you think abortion is pushed so much?
00:01:25.200 Why do you think it's something that is, like, really heavily pushed by the media, by certain influences,
00:01:29.740 and we see it so much nowadays, especially as a younger generation?
00:01:32.760 Honestly, I think so.
00:01:33.960 This is something a lot of people don't know about.
00:01:35.780 Do you know where Planned Parenthood's roots in the U.S.?
00:01:38.200 Yeah, I do, racism.
00:01:39.060 Yeah, and so I think there's a group of elites, honest, this is a conspiracy, don't,
00:01:43.800 I know the comments are going to be like, you do, you don't, this is, this is, this part is conspiracy.
00:01:48.040 But I think there's a group of elites that believe in population control, and I think that's why they're doing it.
00:01:52.840 And that's why 80% of Planned Parenthoods in the U.S. are in minority communities.
00:01:56.420 The black population in the U.S. would be double today. 0.99
00:01:58.960 Yeah, she referred to black people as weeds. 0.99
00:02:01.740 And so it's like, if Nike was founded by a racist, people would be on the streets. 0.97
00:02:05.820 Why is this okay?
00:02:06.960 Especially when Margaret Sanger's grandson, they talk about how they want to market it to minority women,
00:02:12.200 and they talk about how they want to, they make it a woman of color issue.
00:02:15.620 And like, that's how they market it to minority in her project, it was called the N-Word Project.
00:02:20.420 Her grandson is still doing it.
00:02:22.100 He's in New York, he was the head of Planned Parenthood in all of New York,
00:02:24.740 and he was interviewed about Roe versus Wade, and he uses the same language.
00:02:28.240 Like, this affects women of color when anyone can get an abortion. 0.99
00:02:31.300 It's not, it's not specifically.
00:02:32.700 I think that's something a lot of people should know about, the roots of Planned Parenthood,
00:02:36.220 especially when it ties to race and minority populations in America.
00:02:39.740 A lot of people will say that removing the choice to get an abortion is an infringement on women's rights,
00:02:48.360 and that it's going to keep kind of coming after women's rights and that kind of thing. 1.00
00:02:52.980 So it kind of brings in a feminist movement with, are they going to go after women's votes? 1.00
00:02:56.200 Are they going to go after women being able to do this and do that? 0.99
00:02:58.820 So what do you think about that in terms of a women's rights perspective? 1.00
00:03:01.480 What about the child's rights?
00:03:02.980 It's like, I think the child's rights, at conception there's a unique DNA sequence
00:03:06.560 that's different from the mother and the father's, right?
00:03:08.600 That DNA sequence has the eye color, hair color, personality traits.
00:03:12.940 And in China, you see something where they're aborting women. 1.00
00:03:16.000 That's because of the one-child policy.
00:03:18.380 So what about those women? 1.00
00:03:20.480 And that's the problem with abortion, is it becomes a slippery slope to eugenics, 0.93
00:03:24.800 where a lot of the arguments I hear people make are something along the lines of
00:03:28.220 poor people shouldn't live and shouldn't be alive. 1.00
00:03:31.420 When everyone on Earth is richer than most people were in all of human history.
00:03:35.380 You know, by that logic, no one should be.
00:03:36.800 I think a lot of people also get caught up with the whole point-of-life discussion.
00:03:41.840 So a lot of people who are kind of pro-life will say that as soon as the sperm and the egg
00:03:47.520 kind of come together, that is somewhat a form of life starting.
00:03:51.140 But it seems to be this kind of, as you said, slippery slope as to where life starts.
00:03:54.920 And I think if, I don't think, I personally don't demonize those who are pro-life or pro-choice,
00:03:59.180 because I think they both come from a point of, like, I see where they're coming from, both sides.
00:04:03.080 I feel like one side gets heavily demonized, and the conversation just gets completely skewed.
00:04:07.460 And that's why I didn't want to answer you over there.
00:04:09.980 Because as soon as I say pro-life, nobody wants to hear anything.
00:04:13.380 Yeah, which isn't, it's not really fair.
00:04:16.640 Because another thing is, a lot of people, I think if they saw what abortions looked like,
00:04:20.140 they wouldn't be cool with it.
00:04:21.860 They pull off the limbs one by one.
00:04:24.400 They crush the head and they vacuum it out for surgical abortions. 0.98
00:04:28.220 Yeah, and if they did that to puppies, people would be in uproar.
00:04:31.380 Very true.
00:04:31.780 Yeah, yeah.
00:04:32.500 It's weird, because when it's a human.
00:04:34.820 Yeah, and I, again, this isn't something, and they also, a lot of people say,
00:04:37.840 oh, you know, as men, we shouldn't have an opinion on this kind of stuff.
00:04:42.880 So I think it's interesting that you as a woman, who, you know,
00:04:45.340 seems to kind of have a fork in the discussion, is giving you an opinion.
00:04:49.740 Because if I was here with this, no one would bother listening to me.
00:04:53.840 As a woman, I think it's important that women have this discussion amongst themselves. 0.99
00:04:56.700 Yeah.
00:04:57.480 And try to, like, have a dialogue that kind of looks at both sides of the spectrum.
00:05:02.760 Yeah.
00:05:04.160 But I think the last two weeks, the whole Roe v. Wade thing, yeah, it was, you couldn't escape it. 0.58
00:05:08.560 Like, I wasn't exactly sure where I was with it, because, again, I'm not going to say I'm pro-life or pro-choice.
00:05:15.560 I think there are some situations where I don't blame a woman for getting an abortion. 0.99
00:05:20.260 Again, if she's underage and she's, and that kind of, I get that.
00:05:23.440 But, you know, when it is used as a form of contraception, as you said, that most people get two or more,
00:05:28.720 that, to me, just seems like a sort of contraception.
00:05:30.840 And that is something that I don't think a lot of people know about.
00:05:32.800 If they knew that abortion was used as a form of contraception, maybe the discussion would be a bit different, I think.
00:05:38.820 Do you know what hypergamy is?
00:05:40.140 I've heard the term, but I can't tell you exactly what it is.
00:05:41.940 Hypergamy is basically like women date across and up hierarchies. 1.00
00:05:45.260 And so a girl wants to know when she has a kid, that's the best I can do.
00:05:48.660 So that's why you see a lot of girls chasing after rich guys trying to get their kids, right? 0.99
00:05:52.640 And to me, abortion is the ultimate form of hypergamy, because she's saying, this isn't the best I could do.
00:05:57.920 Because if a girl is really into you, she is not aborting that kid. 1.00
00:06:01.020 You couldn't pay her to.
00:06:02.440 Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough.
00:06:04.060 That's interesting. I mean, I can't speak to that.
00:06:05.600 No one's aborting Steph Curry's kid.
00:06:07.840 Exactly.
00:06:08.060 That's an interesting part of the conversation, how finance, how economics, how social status plays a part into it.
00:06:15.200 I get that. That makes a lot of sense.
00:06:16.760 A lot of people say things like, oh, especially me as a man, you know, you're not carrying the child.
00:06:21.680 You know, you can't say whatever, whatever.
00:06:24.720 I think you may have a point there as well.
00:06:26.260 I mean, again, I would love to say there was advocate to what you're saying.
00:06:29.020 But everything you're kind of saying are things I've thought myself.
00:06:32.300 But I don't say publicly, per se.
00:06:35.520 Yeah, until now.
00:06:36.720 Until now.
00:06:37.340 Well, but again, when I found out the roots of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, eugenics, reducing the black population, that's something that I can't ignore. 0.96
00:06:47.440 Yeah.
00:06:47.960 Right?
00:06:48.340 So a lot of black people should know this kind of stuff.
00:06:50.280 A lot of minority people should know this stuff about where the whole push for abortion came from, especially in our communities.
00:06:56.540 You know, it's not something that we should just willy-nilly go along with.
00:06:58.980 Do your research.
00:06:59.740 Find things out for yourself.
00:07:00.700 Don't just go along with what the media and everything everyone's telling you, because history will say something different.
00:07:05.440 And that's the crazy thing is I don't understand why people don't freak out about this information.
00:07:10.940 Like, and it's the same people running the organizations.
00:07:13.160 Like, it's not like it's a new people. 0.99
00:07:15.340 And a lot of times the arguments you hear about abortion are honestly a form of eugenics, which indicate that people of lower IQ should be exterminated. 1.00
00:07:23.740 People that are poor should be exterminated. 1.00
00:07:25.380 I don't think people know that's what they're arguing. 0.99
00:07:27.600 But when they start to bring out, well, she can't afford those kids.
00:07:31.200 Well, most people are richer today than they ever could have been in human history.
00:07:34.600 Poor people have air, well, not in the UK.
00:07:36.680 Y'all don't have air conditioning here.
00:07:38.420 But poor people have smartphones.
00:07:41.200 Nobody in history could have had that.
00:07:43.200 Right.
00:07:43.580 Okay.
00:07:43.920 So in terms of the whole kind of discussion around abortion and that, so I'm guessing you're American.
00:07:48.580 Yeah, I am.
00:07:49.320 Do you think there's a difference between how Americans view the conversation and how British people view the conversation?
00:07:53.700 I think people are more left.
00:07:56.200 Like, people are a lot more pro-choice here, in my experience.
00:07:59.340 Like, people are more, like, angry.
00:08:01.420 More angry.
00:08:02.240 Yeah, about it.
00:08:03.000 Like, when I bring this sign out, I'm, like, more scared here.
00:08:05.600 Oh, really?
00:08:07.140 I'm not.
00:08:07.740 I mean, it's fine.
00:08:08.500 But, like, it's just, I find that, like, there's more people that agree with me in the U.S.
00:08:13.240 Interesting.
00:08:13.760 Interesting.
00:08:14.320 It depends where you are, though.
00:08:15.420 If I went to L.A., that would probably be a difference.
00:08:17.280 Absolutely.
00:08:17.680 Absolutely.
00:08:18.320 I mean, again, I think the whole kind of thing with pro-choice and pro-life is a bit, again,
00:08:23.480 even to me, that's a bit skewed because pro-choice is, okay, everyone should have a choice in life, I suppose.
00:08:28.520 Everyone should have a choice to do whatever they want, right?
00:08:30.980 But, and then you've got pro-life is basically saying, I want these children to live.
00:08:35.960 And I don't know.
00:08:36.540 I feel like it's not exactly fair because if you're pro-life, it's like, oh, you're the most extreme person ever.
00:08:41.860 We cancel you.
00:08:42.580 We put you out of any sort of, like, civil discourse.
00:08:45.600 But then if you're pro-choice, you can be pro-choice but for the most part still want the child to live on most occasions.
00:08:51.340 So you can actually be pro-choice but have more in common with someone who's pro-life than someone who's really, like, oh, pro-abortion, yeah, get it, get it, get it all the time.
00:08:59.660 So I feel like even that is still a bit skewed.
00:09:02.340 I don't think it's a fair point to kind of, you know.
00:09:05.560 You know what's a crazy stat, too?
00:09:06.980 Do you know when abortion's legal here?
00:09:09.120 When or why?
00:09:10.060 Like, how long?
00:09:11.180 How long?
00:09:12.060 It's not been that long.
00:09:13.140 I believe in Northern Ireland is still not legal.
00:09:14.840 No, I meant, like, how long, like, how far along I can get an abortion and a pregnancy.
00:09:18.480 Oh.
00:09:20.040 I actually really enjoyed talking to these two people because they were just very open to, like, listening and learning.
00:09:28.040 And I really enjoy conversations where I feel like I'm learning from them, they're learning from me.
00:09:33.280 We're both open to different ideas.
00:09:35.100 And it's not just a heated debate or, you know, I believe what I believe regardless of any facts, data, or statistics.
00:09:42.260 Four?
00:09:43.400 24 weeks.
00:09:44.500 Yeah, 24.
00:09:44.900 That's what?
00:09:45.680 How many months is that?
00:09:46.620 Six months.
00:09:47.660 Oh.
00:09:48.140 So, no, do you know the earliest child that survived birth?
00:09:51.340 Like, survived a...
00:09:52.240 Probably, like, four, five months or something like that.
00:09:54.420 Yeah, 21 weeks, and it's legal up to 24.
00:09:56.660 Yeah, see, I...
00:09:57.480 So, some of these kids, like, could hypothetically survive.
00:10:00.360 Yeah, could be real living people, breathing people.
00:10:03.900 So, that to me, again, I can't...
00:10:05.880 After you're saying that, I can't pretend like that sits right with me.
00:10:08.300 Yeah.
00:10:08.560 It doesn't.
00:10:09.140 And I don't think...
00:10:09.540 A lot of people knowing five months are long, six months are long, then you terminate the pregnancy.
00:10:14.200 Only in situations where the mother could die.
00:10:17.060 Most pro-lifers would agree with the...
00:10:19.280 When it's the life of the mother, most pro-lifers would agree. 0.93
00:10:21.740 I can understand that.
00:10:22.180 I can understand that.
00:10:23.000 But if there's not a true health risk going on, I would really struggle to find peace with somebody doing that.
00:10:29.940 I really would, so...