JustPearlyThings - October 10, 2023


He Got ROASTED For Saying Body Count Don't Matter To Men


Episode Stats

Length

32 minutes

Words per Minute

223.4765

Word Count

7,371

Sentence Count

671

Misogynist Sentences

55

Hate Speech Sentences

42


Summary

In this episode, we discuss why women cheat and why men cheat. Why do women cheat? Why do men cheat? And why does it matter if a woman cheats? We also discuss the dangers of sex and the benefits of sex.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 To back it up, it's very simple. A woman's propensity to cheat drops significantly with
00:00:03.520 the income of her partner. The richer her husband, the less a woman cheats. And this has been proven
00:00:07.520 over and over and over and over and over. Most of the cheating, there's about 20% of women that are
00:00:12.200 statistically trying to be cheating in their marriages. Overwhelmingly, those are swayed
00:00:17.140 towards men that are earning below average incomes versus men with higher incomes tend to cheat
00:00:21.640 more, but their wives tend to cheat significantly less. So why do women cheat? Acquisition of
00:00:26.440 resources. Why do men cheat? Spread the seed paternity, right? Because men have more
00:00:30.320 opportunities with their higher income. So it's like, well, you don't want a woman with low body
00:00:33.180 counts because you're insecure in yourself. No, that you're insecure in yourself and you want to blame
00:00:36.880 the man for it. And that's just like a really toxic behavior. And if you think when you want to buy a
00:00:41.620 car or you want to buy clothes or anything, you want it not used really. Yeah. I don't want nobody
00:00:47.980 putting dicks in my car. What do you, do you still think body count doesn't matter? Yeah.
00:00:56.440 You still, same opinion. Same opinion. Always, till the day I die. Don't mind. I'm just curious,
00:01:03.020 like new, new information doesn't ever change. You know what? It's just, I don't care. I just don't
00:01:08.000 care. Like it just doesn't, because for a man, a man can sleep with what? A thousand people,
00:01:13.660 but that man's not a hoe. But a woman, she's a hoe. Hey, he's the hoe maker. He's a, okay. He's a,
00:01:20.000 a hoe maker. He's a hoe maker. But, um, I mean, what's the phrase like a key that opens many locks
00:01:24.880 is a good key, but a lock that opens for everybody. It's not a good lock. Yeah. Also,
00:01:30.360 you have to let the men actually in. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. It's quite actually a big
00:01:34.960 deal. Yeah, I guess so. It should be. And you know what actually saying, you saying that, I do understand
00:01:39.940 because it's like a soul tie a little bit. I feel like if you do sleep around, you're kind of letting
00:01:44.600 people into your, that's, that's your home. You know, your body is your home. So I do understand
00:01:48.960 that as well. And you're more likely to pass on like STD. I do. And you're more likely to pass,
00:01:52.860 like one in, one in four women have an STD actively. Oh God. That's fine. Go get that check.
00:01:58.960 Yeah, one in three women have had an abortion too. It's like actually crazy, the numbers. That is
00:02:03.600 nice. What's like, guys like girls are experienced and it's like. Why? Why are we just went over? Why are you
00:02:12.820 going back to the law? No, I'm not even like, no, it's like. Okay, you know what, you, you, this is the problem. I feel like it's one too. Men like you. This is what you guys do. You're trying to not, you don't want the, you know, the women you want to sleep with or whatever to let, hear you, hear you, hear you saying that because you, you're like, no, no, no, no, no, come on. But you know, deep down, you would never take them seriously.
00:02:36.820 So then you mislead us. It's misleading to women because you tell women it doesn't matter. And then the women say, oh, okay, it doesn't matter. They'll go do it. But you know, it matters.
00:02:49.440 So let's, we're not liars on the podcast. We're truth tellers.
00:02:53.520 It's confusing though. It's like, guys like, I think guys will be more likely to keep a girl if they're like sexually satisfied with that woman, you know?
00:03:02.200 And I think girls that's had like a lot of experience can provide that for guys. But I don't know.
00:03:09.080 Can you provide it for her is the question too. Can I provide it? Not, not sarcastically, by the way, because you don't know the emotional, the emotional engagement she had previously.
00:03:17.320 It's not even about the sex. It's about the danger of the sex, the forbiddenness of it. Right.
00:03:22.160 How would you feel if you got like a woman with like a high body count?
00:03:25.540 Well, I can tell you exactly how I felt. I was dating a girl in Texas and I've said this on a podcast once before and she was like super hot.
00:03:31.860 And I was just like, wow. And I was younger at the time too. So I was like, I really valued that as like the number one thing.
00:03:36.840 And then, and then, you know, a couple of months in the relationship, we had to have a conversation.
00:03:40.160 She was like, Hey, I just need you to know, like, I didn't know this. I was very naive. She's like, I'm a, I'm a stripper.
00:03:45.520 Actually had no idea. I just remember thinking the whole time. I was like, this checks out a body. She should be a stripper, right?
00:03:49.380 She was a stripper. And then we went to a certain, um, we went to a sporting event and there were 10 athletes on the, on playing and she had slept with eight of them.
00:03:59.040 And she told me that she's like, Oh, I slept with this guy and this guy. And this is one of those girls that would hunt those kinds of professional athletes. Right.
00:04:03.800 Yeah. And I was just like, Oh, I think my dick just fell off because I was like, I don't think I want to, you know, I don't think I want to, I don't know if it's a competition thing, but like no future.
00:04:13.320 What was her body count?
00:04:14.280 I don't know the exact number, but when you're there's 10 guys on the court and she's been with eight of them. Yeah. Of the 10. Yeah.
00:04:21.940 Yeah. She had to have been like, if you found out about eight, I'd be like 50 or something.
00:04:26.620 Oh no, it was way more than that. I'm sure. I'm sure it was, I guess she, she actually kept a list of all the famous dudes she was with.
00:04:31.480 Like, don't get me wrong. The sex, the sex was just like mind blowing. Fine.
00:04:35.340 But I'm thinking like, there's no way I would have a daughter with this person.
00:04:39.220 There's like a 50, 50 roughly chance that one of her is like, no way. No way.
00:04:43.740 What's like, imagine dating for like, not even dating.
00:04:48.200 Say you've known this girl for like six years. You fought the world of her. Right.
00:04:53.140 And then all of a sudden, like after like six or seven years, you found out about the count.
00:04:58.340 Would you look at that person differently or would you just be like, oh, yes.
00:05:02.640 Are you just dating her for six years?
00:05:05.000 I say like you're married or anything. Like even, say even like she's your girlfriend, right?
00:05:11.680 And you've known her for six years. This is like.
00:05:14.380 Has that happened to you?
00:05:15.620 No.
00:05:16.120 Okay.
00:05:17.740 So six years is very specific.
00:05:20.780 I think it's a long enough time to not go back.
00:05:23.380 And on a Thursday, she says.
00:05:25.420 Yeah, but it's like, after so long, would you look at that person differently knowing that, oh, the body counts like 50 or something?
00:05:32.500 You know, I'm not going to lie. You would.
00:05:33.660 I think so.
00:05:34.920 There's no way in hell that you wouldn't, like you would. You may not say anything, but in the back of your mind, you're going to be thinking, oh my God, she's slept with that many men.
00:05:45.120 And then you're now going to start looking at her differently. So what then tends to happen is that you might now, she might say, oh, I'm going to have my friends.
00:05:51.480 So when she was doing it before, you were fine.
00:05:54.200 But when she's now doing it and she's told you a number, you're thinking, oh, where are you going particularly? What are you going to do?
00:06:02.160 Yeah. It's an ego thing.
00:06:03.420 But it is.
00:06:04.680 Yeah, I get, you know.
00:06:05.680 So how could you keep that a secret? That's quite a secret to have.
00:06:10.020 I'm just thinking 50 meant, would you? You can't, could you go anywhere and not run it?
00:06:14.900 Because this is like the law of something where you're like five connections away from everybody. Is that a thing?
00:06:21.140 Yeah, it is, yeah.
00:06:22.460 So I'm like 50. Did you guys run into like men she slept with often?
00:06:27.780 Well, we would go to sporting events and see them playing sports. So that was like kind of weird.
00:06:32.060 And, you know, it's always the same conversation. It's like, oh, now that you know, like you don't think highly of me, cry, cry, cry.
00:06:36.680 I'm like, no, no, no, it's fine. I don't care about your past. Of course I'm going to say it because I want more mind-blowing sex.
00:06:41.720 But I'm not going to put a ring on it because remember, market value is not determined.
00:06:44.620 How long did you date her for?
00:06:45.960 About six, seven months.
00:06:46.980 Okay. And then you broke it off.
00:06:48.140 Um, she'd reappear occasionally in my life since then. I mean, up until I, you know, up until I got very serious with somebody.
00:06:54.860 Right.
00:06:55.360 You know, business is business.
00:06:57.500 The thing is, you could have dated her for six years, her thinking you're going to marry her, you knowing that you wouldn't.
00:07:03.520 Oh, but I wasn't going to do that.
00:07:04.480 No, no, but I'm just saying women don't realize that a man can date you for years and have absolutely no intention of marrying you.
00:07:12.360 He's just waiting until he finds that woman that he will marry. And we don't really know that, but that's true.
00:07:18.140 Women do the same.
00:07:19.560 They do. And I think that's signs anyway.
00:07:21.460 I don't think that. I think that's...
00:07:23.360 That's weird. You're describing hypergamy. That's actually a very female behavior.
00:07:26.540 Women. No, no, no. I mean, no, I don't mean that. No.
00:07:32.080 No, I actually agree with him because women leave more. We leave like 80% of the time.
00:07:36.700 I don't mean leaving. I just mean that a man, have you not had boyfriends that now you look back and you think,
00:07:42.060 actually, I thought I broke up with him, but he was never going to marry me.
00:07:46.900 You weren't his girlfriend. You just learned that they weren't your boyfriend.
00:07:51.240 Oh.
00:07:52.800 You know what I mean.
00:07:53.600 What do you mean?
00:07:54.080 No, but what I'm...
00:07:54.660 Well, it's like if a woman is giving up like, oh, we're dating, but it's like, well, are you dating or are you...
00:07:59.440 Right.
00:07:59.760 No, I've only ever had like relationship, well, I've had a situation, but you know, what I mean is,
00:08:04.820 you might think as a girl that you're dating this guy and you may even live together,
00:08:10.100 but that still doesn't mean he has any intention of actually marrying you and you don't know that.
00:08:16.320 So has that happened to you?
00:08:18.820 Not...
00:08:19.580 Like the dating someone for a long time and he had no intention.
00:08:22.620 I've had several relationships that now I look back, I think actually that was never going anywhere.
00:08:28.120 Either I always thought it was me deciding that, but then you think actually he never was going to propose anything.
00:08:34.060 It was time wasting. Men can waste time.
00:08:35.760 Yeah, did he end up like marrying someone else right after or did they never get married?
00:08:40.380 A couple of my exes I think are married, yeah.
00:08:42.760 Oh, okay.
00:08:44.180 Because sometimes I think it's like girls will try to make a guy that doesn't want to be a husband a husband.
00:08:48.640 Yeah.
00:08:49.040 I mean, he's just not a husband.
00:08:50.340 So I was just curious if the guys, like were they not husbands or like they were never going to marry you?
00:08:54.040 To me, they weren't, I don't actually think they were husbands.
00:08:57.060 I wasn't happy, but they may well be now.
00:09:00.740 This was obviously, I'm 35, this was in my 20s, early 20s.
00:09:07.520 I think that women date potential.
00:09:09.900 So me dating someone at my own age at that point might have been the problem.
00:09:14.320 I've not really dated older.
00:09:16.280 I've not really, I've been a bit weird about it, but actually maybe that's a better idea.
00:09:20.900 Not now, my fiancé's younger.
00:09:22.960 But I'm just saying that I've lost my train of thought.
00:09:29.000 Do you know if a guy doesn't get married after the age of 35, he only has a 15% chance of ever getting married?
00:09:34.160 Isn't that crazy?
00:09:34.760 That is not.
00:09:36.220 For women, it's like 0%.
00:09:38.020 Oh, wow.
00:09:38.520 I think, what is it, if a woman doesn't have a child by 35, the chances of her having a child drop to about 0%.
00:09:44.580 Well, if she's single by 30, the chance of her, the chance, if she's single at 30, the chance of her ever having like a kid drops below 50%.
00:09:51.940 Right.
00:09:52.120 So you're like, she's more likely to not have a kid than have one.
00:09:54.400 What does that tell you about sexual market value of a woman?
00:09:56.220 That's a scary statistic, right?
00:09:57.920 That's a harsh reality for me.
00:09:59.200 I'm getting married.
00:09:59.820 I would like to have kids.
00:10:00.800 My partner would like to have kids, but I am 35.
00:10:02.740 And the chances, and I think that should be taught to girls, because at the moment you see a lot of celebrities, they've paid for IVF, they've had their eggs frozen, they're doing it older, but they've got millions of pounds to achieve things that isn't actually easy to achieve in the real world.
00:10:18.240 What do you wish you knew at 25?
00:10:20.680 Not to date anybody for their potential, because the chances of them fulfilling that potential are quite slim.
00:10:27.240 that actually a man who is a go-getter, a man that is a hard worker, driven, they already are.
00:10:33.160 And it's not going to come from me pushing them.
00:10:35.260 They already are that person.
00:10:37.260 And then, yeah.
00:10:38.120 Would you say you dated more for like looks in your 20s?
00:10:42.120 Not based on my exes, no.
00:10:43.980 But I do think that that's what you look for, definitely.
00:10:50.180 But I've sort of...
00:10:55.020 Oh, sorry.
00:10:55.940 Me.
00:10:57.240 This way?
00:10:58.540 Sorry, it's because I'm looking at Pearl, that's why.
00:11:01.680 Oh, don't.
00:11:02.760 Goodness me.
00:11:04.860 I've lost where I was again.
00:11:06.180 I asked if you dated for looks in your 20s.
00:11:09.660 Yeah, not based on my exes, no.
00:11:11.480 But I do think that charisma, I'd say, I went for.
00:11:16.700 The funny one, the loud one, the confident one, you know.
00:11:19.800 They weren't always the best looking one, but I think that that comes off as like a masculinity, in a way.
00:11:25.200 So I think that's what I was attracted to.
00:11:27.920 And then I'd get in the relationship and realize actually they weren't doing anything else.
00:11:32.380 And I still, you're hooked.
00:11:33.620 They had a lot of practice to get that funny.
00:11:36.540 Yeah.
00:11:36.680 A lot of free time.
00:11:37.880 Exactly.
00:11:38.620 Talk to women.
00:11:39.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:11:41.020 Okay.
00:11:41.540 What did you think of the body count?
00:11:43.360 When is high value off the table for a woman?
00:11:45.720 I think it is slightly age-related as well.
00:11:50.260 I think that if I had a kid or a niece, or I do have a niece, I would say just hold on to your virginity for as long as you can.
00:11:56.360 But I think that early 18, if you start having sex when you're 16, maybe you've slept with one person.
00:12:06.000 And then 20, maybe two, you know.
00:12:08.100 And then if you're 35 and you've had a few relationships, then it'd be a little bit above that.
00:12:11.920 But I think that there's no need to go out.
00:12:15.600 Yeah.
00:12:16.060 I think it matters.
00:12:17.080 What's the number?
00:12:17.820 Oh, sorry.
00:12:18.400 Yeah, sorry.
00:12:18.820 So early 20s, I'd say like five.
00:12:25.720 What age is high value off the table for a woman?
00:12:29.580 Probably 25.
00:12:30.620 Okay.
00:12:31.180 So five then.
00:12:32.960 Okay.
00:12:33.340 Roughly five.
00:12:33.980 Five, 25.
00:12:34.680 Five.
00:12:36.560 Yeah, no.
00:12:37.320 You got it.
00:12:37.800 I agree.
00:12:38.880 What do you think?
00:12:39.880 Yeah, I think five.
00:12:40.680 Five.
00:12:41.040 Yeah, five.
00:12:41.560 After five high values off the table.
00:12:43.040 After five, it's finished.
00:12:44.300 Oh, to hell, guys.
00:12:46.160 Sorry.
00:12:46.900 Sorry.
00:12:48.820 I would say below double digits, to be honest.
00:12:51.660 Below double digits.
00:12:52.100 Yeah, below double digits.
00:12:52.820 So you're kind.
00:12:54.100 You'll give them up to 10.
00:12:55.340 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:12:57.200 That's the most common answer I get.
00:12:59.340 I get like, yeah, 10 is, well, I get when I ask how many bodies is too many bodies, it's always prefer five.
00:13:06.660 I'll deal with 10.
00:13:08.380 15, maybe if she's hot.
00:13:12.220 What do you think?
00:13:14.340 Well, it's funny that a lot of people land on five.
00:13:17.000 That's like statistically kind of the average for women in the Western nations.
00:13:22.680 And so you're kind of going, well, as long as she's kind of average, which is, you know, I think it's a fair standard.
00:13:26.740 Is that average now?
00:13:27.860 That is about the average, yeah, reported.
00:13:29.660 I mean, obviously, there's going to be some variances because people lie, whatever.
00:13:32.540 But on the grand scale, it's probably not off by more than one.
00:13:35.820 The one I read was higher than that.
00:13:38.640 It was like eight, I think.
00:13:40.120 That might have been like Sweden or something, like a really like egalitarian sort of open society that could happen.
00:13:45.800 You know, so.
00:13:46.740 Oh, were you doing like world?
00:13:48.360 Yeah.
00:13:48.700 Oh, okay.
00:13:49.120 No, it's more Western world.
00:13:50.380 It's more like England, America, Canada, you know, like sort of like the G20, whatever you want to call it.
00:13:54.120 So there could be, you know, some variance in that.
00:13:57.060 But that's good, though, if the average is fine.
00:14:00.860 It's such an interesting thing.
00:14:03.040 Let me tell you guys this.
00:14:03.780 Like here's a question I would ask, right?
00:14:05.160 And here's like a legitimate statistical question.
00:14:08.060 I'm interested in this, right?
00:14:09.660 As a man's income and options go up, options meaning more women are willing to sleep with him.
00:14:15.060 Therefore, he gets to choose who he wants to commit to because that's what a man does at the end of high value.
00:14:19.360 He chooses who he commits to, right?
00:14:20.540 He's the one that controls the commitment.
00:14:22.220 The woman controls the sex, right?
00:14:23.880 As a man's options go up, does that number change?
00:14:27.060 An interesting question.
00:14:29.600 Because like, well, the body count for a girl that's acceptable to him to form a long-term relationship.
00:14:34.840 Like I know a dude, we actually both know a dude with Henry that like is with a chick right now.
00:14:39.380 And like you can tell she's been with a lot of dudes.
00:14:41.560 But the guy is so inexperienced and naive.
00:14:43.480 He's just happy to have a woman.
00:14:45.160 He's like, yeah, I have a woman.
00:14:46.280 Is he well off?
00:14:47.140 No, no, no, no, not at all.
00:14:49.360 But I'm thinking like, but I'm thinking like if this guy was like, as this guy, right, he's young.
00:14:53.380 But as he rises through life, he's like, you know, it's more money, more money, more, whatever.
00:14:56.680 That metric you use for value, whatever, whatever, you know, gains more opportunity, more social value.
00:15:03.880 He might look at that chick and be like, you know what?
00:15:05.680 I can do better.
00:15:07.360 You know, it's like the same that your friend is picking up a 300-pound chick.
00:15:10.240 It's like most of the guys that go for that, by the way, there's actual studies on this as well, right?
00:15:14.380 And they say that poorer men prefer fatter women.
00:15:17.140 And I look at that study and go, it's not that they prefer.
00:15:18.940 It's just who they can get.
00:15:19.860 It's just like the market has a certain equilibrium, right?
00:15:21.900 There's a surplus of that.
00:15:23.000 There's way too many chicks that are oversized.
00:15:24.860 And there's way too many lazy, broke-ass dudes.
00:15:27.000 And then the market surplus adjusts itself.
00:15:29.020 They're really a match made in heaven.
00:15:31.200 Heaven is a strong word.
00:15:33.400 Heaven is a strong word.
00:15:34.560 But that's funny because this lady in the green dress here was saying like, yeah, I had some guys living with me that never really thought they were going to marry me.
00:15:40.220 And my first thought was like, I wonder if they're very low ambition men.
00:15:43.760 Oh, I would say so.
00:15:44.880 Yeah, because they're comfortable being in an imperfect situation.
00:15:47.920 What happens is in this young gentleman here in front of me in the matching suit, he was saying earlier, he's like, I want a girl that pushes me and motivates me.
00:15:54.460 And I'm like, no, you don't.
00:15:55.920 If a woman has to motivate you, no, you don't.
00:15:58.880 If a woman has to motivate you in a relationship, you will both be bitter and resentful.
00:16:04.720 Encourages.
00:16:05.220 I agree with that completely.
00:16:06.380 Like my woman is like, hey, do you need to travel on that trip?
00:16:09.380 Do you do this?
00:16:09.760 I'm like, yeah.
00:16:10.140 Like, you know, like I told my girlfriend who became my wife, I was like, I'm really, really ambitious and be working all the time.
00:16:16.080 You have to deal with that.
00:16:17.120 If you don't, that's okay.
00:16:17.940 But that's going to be me.
00:16:18.940 And so and I find that her attraction for me stabilizes and even goes up because I am achieving new things all the time.
00:16:26.040 And she won't deny that.
00:16:27.540 I agree with that completely.
00:16:28.320 I work six days, seven days a week and you have to put up with it.
00:16:31.520 It's just that's what I do.
00:16:32.740 And I'm not going to stop doing what I'm doing because I'm able to provide what I need to provide.
00:16:36.600 And no matter what arguments happen, you're still happy with what I'm doing because it shows that I'm doing what I need to do.
00:16:43.300 I would ask an interesting question.
00:16:44.520 Anybody here grow up with a two-parent household?
00:16:46.080 Like my parents were together for most of my life.
00:16:47.800 Okay.
00:16:48.400 And I experienced this, right?
00:16:49.560 Like my mom was constantly frustrated and a little resentful at my dad because he wasn't as ambitious as she was.
00:16:56.740 Has anybody ever experienced that?
00:16:57.700 That's a terrible relationship.
00:16:58.420 I saw that as a kid.
00:16:59.140 That's a terrible, that's a bad relationship to observe.
00:17:02.060 That's a bad relationship because what happens, Pearl, you know, that's what happens with the moment a woman outruns a man.
00:17:06.600 She leaves.
00:17:07.120 It's done.
00:17:08.100 He's done.
00:17:09.240 Instantly.
00:17:09.800 So it's like you want to really motivate your guy?
00:17:11.680 No, you don't.
00:17:12.520 Support him.
00:17:13.700 No, but that's the, yeah.
00:17:15.640 Support.
00:17:16.720 Always be there.
00:17:17.140 The guy should have his own drive, his own ambition, his own motivation.
00:17:20.560 He should have his own goals.
00:17:21.660 And then the woman's like, yeah, you go.
00:17:23.500 Just to support.
00:17:24.880 Just positivity at home.
00:17:26.460 You know, not actually, because I made the mistake of thinking that I could motivate people that don't have any motivation, any drive, any goals, and they're happy to earn not very much.
00:17:35.960 But that guy won't choose a 300-pound woman with 20 ducks.
00:17:38.640 Like, he just won't.
00:17:39.760 Period.
00:17:40.260 He just won't.
00:17:41.280 Why would he?
00:17:42.340 I still agree with what you're saying as well.
00:17:45.240 You know what's interesting?
00:17:46.140 It's like women, we pick non-monogamy in our 20s.
00:17:49.480 Like, so it's like interesting because this is the first time in human history where women have been in control of sex.
00:17:54.000 Like, historically, you either go with the guy that steals you, you know what I mean?
00:17:57.440 Or you're dead.
00:17:58.500 You can either comply with him or you're dead.
00:17:59.740 So this is the first time in human history we're 100% in control of sex because there's consequences for the men.
00:18:05.040 And we're also 100% in control of who's born.
00:18:07.120 So what happened?
00:18:07.980 You would think, like, when women were in control of sex that we would pick monogamy, right?
00:18:12.300 But it's interesting because women, when we are at our peak, like we're in our prime, we pick non-monogamy in our 20s.
00:18:17.440 And typically, like, women pick non-monogamy because we find 80% of men as unattractive, not just okay, not just nah.
00:18:24.380 We find them as ugly.
00:18:25.380 So because we find 80% of men as unattractive, that means we're sharing 20% of men.
00:18:29.340 And so, yeah, so we're picking.
00:18:31.160 And because in our 20s, like you were saying, like, you can't pick a guy for ambition.
00:18:34.960 Like, maybe it's social status, whatever it is.
00:18:37.860 So basically women share men in their 20s.
00:18:40.400 And then in their 30s, pick a leftover guy, typically, that they wouldn't have picked in their 20s.
00:18:45.040 I am.
00:18:45.440 Yeah, I agree with that as well.
00:18:47.560 Same.
00:18:48.320 Yeah, I definitely agree with that.
00:18:49.940 You always see the age-old things.
00:18:51.280 Like, when I was in school, you get the really crisp-looking girl that everyone wanted.
00:18:56.560 And she would only pick who she deemed to be really handsome or whatever it was.
00:19:00.880 And then as she got into her 30s, had three or four children, and body shape's now no longer the same.
00:19:06.880 All of a sudden, because for me, I truly believe that men, as they get older, they become more attractive.
00:19:13.060 There's a reason they age like fine wine.
00:19:14.680 There's a phrase.
00:19:15.920 Women age like milk.
00:19:16.680 Milk.
00:19:16.800 Yeah.
00:19:19.220 So even with the Botox nowadays, we can see your forehead not moving.
00:19:25.800 We can see it.
00:19:26.860 Like, it's so shiny, you know?
00:19:29.140 Exactly that as well.
00:19:30.460 So then you get those women in their early 20s who didn't necessarily want to pick you.
00:19:34.340 Now, all of a sudden, they want to pick you when they're in a situation where it's like, no, you come back and say, well, they can't.
00:19:39.260 Yeah, because they don't have as much bargaining power.
00:19:41.080 It's like, you've got to go half off.
00:19:42.560 You know what I mean?
00:19:43.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:19:43.660 And so now it's like they will run to the guys that we rejected in our 20s and our 30s and say, take me with, you know.
00:19:50.220 And guess who they're going to cheat on you with?
00:19:52.140 The guys that they hooked up with their 20s.
00:19:54.360 Exactly.
00:19:54.860 So they're going right back.
00:19:55.860 Yep.
00:19:55.960 Yeah, which I think that's like why we really talk about what we do.
00:20:01.320 It's not really to shit on women, but it's like a lot of men are naive to this.
00:20:04.140 They think, oh, she really likes me because she's coming in my 30s or maybe she just overlooked me in high school.
00:20:09.140 But she didn't overlook you.
00:20:10.060 She's just, you know, the other guys didn't work out your second choice.
00:20:13.060 They just don't know it.
00:20:14.100 She bet against you.
00:20:15.280 Yeah.
00:20:15.620 And you let her back in.
00:20:16.500 You're in trouble.
00:20:17.120 Yeah.
00:20:19.580 It's harsh.
00:20:20.300 I think that women, some women just make a lot of mistakes and are looking in the wrong way.
00:20:24.940 Because I'm like a relationship person.
00:20:27.280 I wasn't just like, you know, going all around the place.
00:20:29.680 But what's high value when you're younger or what you think is high value when you're younger isn't what you're not kind of linking it to a husband.
00:20:40.500 You're not hunting properly.
00:20:42.600 You're right.
00:20:43.040 Because when women get closer to 30, it's like they look more for long-term security.
00:20:46.760 So in their 20s, it goes back to what we were saying.
00:20:48.560 It tends to be looks more like prime genes.
00:20:50.880 So they say, okay, these guys are the ideal genes that I want for whatever reason.
00:20:55.840 Maybe it's social status.
00:20:57.040 Maybe whatever.
00:20:58.000 But then in their 30s, they tend to go for like long-term security and like safety.
00:21:02.100 And so, you know, basically it's like alpha, beta.
00:21:04.580 Like they pick the alphas in their 20s and the betas in their 30s.
00:21:07.220 Yeah.
00:21:07.360 And women don't typically respect the beta.
00:21:09.620 I mean, I hate the word alpha and beta, but you understand what I'm saying.
00:21:12.100 And you don't realize as well that when you're saying the beta is like, say at school, at college, whatever, just the good-looking guy is the one that all the girls want.
00:21:22.780 But you don't realize these guys over here are the ones that are going to make the money, have their own businesses.
00:21:26.680 And you're not, that's just not in your head at all.
00:21:28.820 You just want, it's an attraction.
00:21:31.000 It's not, you're not thinking it through, if you see what I mean.
00:21:33.020 It's not like a decision you've made on purpose.
00:21:35.060 Well, there's a reason historically like the dads would keep their daughters away from certain guys.
00:21:39.160 Like this is why, it's like, that's why women, like we suck at relationships.
00:21:43.920 We don't pick the right guys in general.
00:21:45.600 Because this is the first time, because in the 20s it switched where women used to live with their dad and then they went straight to their husband.
00:21:54.320 So there was no period in between.
00:21:57.180 And so in the 20s, that was when women started to go out.
00:21:59.540 You know, that's why they say the roaring 20s.
00:22:01.120 They started going to the parties.
00:22:02.420 You know, they cut their hair off, all this wild stuff.
00:22:04.560 And so that was the first time where women were more in control of sex and more in control of who they were picking.
00:22:10.180 And that's when you start to see the birth, like women having less children.
00:22:13.160 And that's when you, well, you see the divorce rate more go down in 65 when women were 100% in control of reproduction because we got birth control.
00:22:21.520 But my whole point is that when women are in charge, we make bad choices.
00:22:25.300 We're like children.
00:22:26.140 Yeah.
00:22:26.420 If you give us too much freedom, we don't know what we're doing.
00:22:28.340 Yeah.
00:22:28.700 If my dad had chosen who I dated, I wouldn't have dated any of them in my 20s.
00:22:34.220 Really?
00:22:34.520 You know, and that's the thing.
00:22:35.340 Like a lot of times girls will say to me, and I don't say it to be mean, but they'll say, oh, well, not all women are like that.
00:22:40.780 And then I'll ask them like follow-up questions about their exes in their 20s.
00:22:44.800 Like, did your parents like them?
00:22:46.160 The answer is always no.
00:22:47.520 You know, they were funny.
00:22:48.520 A couple of them were funny or nice.
00:22:49.960 Or, yeah.
00:22:50.480 But useless.
00:22:51.320 Or, yeah.
00:22:51.940 Or if the parents did like them, she left him.
00:22:54.640 Yeah.
00:22:54.960 So, you know.
00:22:55.800 Some people can be likable and not, sorry, not dependable husband, father material.
00:23:02.420 Correct.
00:23:03.100 And the parents see that.
00:23:04.420 Yeah.
00:23:04.800 And then we just say, la, la, la, la.
00:23:06.800 I don't hear you.
00:23:07.800 I pick them anyway.
00:23:09.440 You just unpacked something really interesting for a lot of guys listening to this need to be really careful about this.
00:23:14.600 You're like, well, you know, I was in my 20s and picking guys that weren't like a good long-term, you know, secure option.
00:23:20.860 I was picking like this thing.
00:23:22.380 They got me.
00:23:22.860 Well, really what they did is they got you sexually excited.
00:23:25.580 That's what it was.
00:23:26.400 There was passion.
00:23:27.360 There was some attraction.
00:23:28.620 There was charisma.
00:23:29.380 There's that.
00:23:29.800 You know, that's exactly what it was.
00:23:31.620 And then you get and now you're like, well, I wasn't thinking about this, like longevity and this.
00:23:35.900 And it's like, what do you mean you weren't thinking about it?
00:23:38.580 I know what it means.
00:23:39.580 Let me say what it means is now you're thinking about it.
00:23:43.020 And so now you're having as a woman, and this is like not you specifically, but in general, women get to 30, 31, 32.
00:23:48.460 It's like, oh, now I have to think about these things, which means you're rationalizing yourself into a relationship.
00:23:53.200 And the question I would have is, is rationalizing yourself into a relationship genuine desire?
00:23:57.080 No, you do misunderstand me a little bit.
00:23:59.800 I've always, always wanted to get married and have kids.
00:24:02.640 And I've always been thinking, oh, yeah, I'll marry this person without thinking, what does he earn?
00:24:08.580 What potential does he have to earn anymore?
00:24:10.180 Does he even want to earn anymore?
00:24:11.640 He smokes.
00:24:12.220 I don't even like smoking.
00:24:13.080 Why would I marry someone that's the worst thing in the world?
00:24:15.860 You know what I mean?
00:24:16.660 They've done drugs.
00:24:17.600 Well, that's like, I hate it.
00:24:19.300 And for me, it's a passion.
00:24:21.300 So I'm trying to accept things that I don't accept and trying to make this person into something instead of finding a man that is already someone I want.
00:24:28.200 Right, but he's saying, like, again, you're, could you explain?
00:24:31.460 You're right.
00:24:31.980 I don't know what you mean, but I just think you misunderstand.
00:24:33.660 I haven't settled for my partner.
00:24:34.840 I don't misunderstand it at all, and I know exactly what it means, and you couldn't say it if you did, so it doesn't matter that you would never say, I wouldn't settle for my partner.
00:24:42.900 You wouldn't say the opposite, so we can't trust those words, even though they're probably, I want you to be right, but we can't trust.
00:24:48.080 No, it's like, well, you know, I wouldn't speak badly with my husband.
00:24:50.800 No shit, you wouldn't.
00:24:51.920 Obviously, you wouldn't, so that's fine.
00:24:53.380 But the reality is, you get, you know, women get to a certain age, and they start looking at these other attributes, but that's not genuine desire.
00:24:58.320 Right.
00:24:58.580 And so what happens is when she marries that guy, where was that genuine desire in the 20s?
00:25:02.920 It's still for those guys.
00:25:03.660 And by the way, coming back to this, where did she go back to for that genuine desire?
00:25:07.380 No, but sexual desire isn't what is going to keep you in a relationship.
00:25:10.940 But it'll make you cheat.
00:25:12.520 But it'll make you cheat.
00:25:13.600 And that's, you know, my buddy.
00:25:14.140 But it doesn't mean that you don't sexually desire the partner that you've checked.
00:25:17.200 It sure doesn't, but it doesn't.
00:25:18.300 You can luck out and find somebody who is all of the things that you should have looked for.
00:25:21.660 You're 100% correct.
00:25:24.040 The chances of it are very slim, though.
00:25:25.780 I got a friend.
00:25:26.700 He's worth about $120 million.
00:25:29.120 He's 42, and he's single.
00:25:30.600 He's a great guy.
00:25:31.420 I'm real tight with this guy.
00:25:32.320 But he's single.
00:25:32.800 He's 42, and he flies all the time around the world.
00:25:34.680 And he tells me, he's like, oh, I'm bringing this girl on a trip with me.
00:25:37.080 I'm bringing that girl on a trip with me.
00:25:38.140 That's what these guys do when they're 100 million, you know, before they're 40.
00:25:40.540 They just fly around the world and take girls with them in different places, right?
00:25:43.420 Makes sense.
00:25:44.280 And he's like, oh, I'm taking this chick, but she's married.
00:25:46.800 I'm like, what?
00:25:47.660 He's like, yeah, we used to hook up like, you know, six, seven years ago, and then she got married.
00:25:50.660 But you know how it goes.
00:25:51.600 And I'm like, what do you mean?
00:25:52.680 He's like, well, you know, she's married some guy.
00:25:54.800 He's a construction guy.
00:25:56.300 He's a nice guy.
00:25:56.840 But he can't take her to Dubai for a week, and I can.
00:25:59.400 So she just says she's got a work trip, and she just goes and meets with me.
00:26:02.500 And I'm like, dude, is that normal?
00:26:04.060 He's like, yeah, like every chick I hooked up with in my 30s that got married is now, like, lighting me up on Insta.
00:26:10.560 Like, hey, what you doing?
00:26:11.600 Haven't thought about you for a while.
00:26:14.000 And I'm like, so what does that teach you, sir, about, you know, the dating marketplace?
00:26:18.040 He goes, I wouldn't.
00:26:18.780 And he's 42 now.
00:26:19.520 He goes, I would never marry a woman in her 30s.
00:26:21.720 Why?
00:26:22.160 Because I know that she's not marrying me for the genuine desire.
00:26:26.060 At this point, she just wants to settle down.
00:26:28.580 Now, that might be an extreme argument to look at it.
00:26:30.860 And I understand that group statistics don't apply to an individual.
00:26:34.080 But that's a scary thing to think about.
00:26:35.700 And so I'm like, so who are you going to marry?
00:26:36.740 You're 42.
00:26:37.200 He's like, oh, you know, he's like, I think if I get married, it'll be an Almito girl, 22, 23.
00:26:42.260 It's a big age gap, but he's like, but he's got 120 mil.
00:26:45.040 He's got the life.
00:26:45.820 Like, he's got women available to him at that option.
00:26:47.820 He doesn't have to deal with the history.
00:26:49.060 That's his biggest fear is dealing with the history.
00:26:51.620 I will agree, actually.
00:26:53.140 So if I met my partner at work and it literally seriously lucked out.
00:26:57.000 But before that, when I was looking on Tinder, you've got divorcees, you've got dads.
00:27:01.140 I don't want to be with somebody that's got kids already that aren't, you know, that you've got slim pickings at 35, 34.
00:27:07.280 So in that case, I can see that a lot of women would probably settle.
00:27:12.880 No, I mean, yeah, but you also, you can also see why from a guy's point of view, it's like risky with a girl that's older.
00:27:18.820 Because it's like more baggage that he has to deal with.
00:27:21.300 Yeah, yeah, definitely.
00:27:21.900 More guys that he really has to compete with.
00:27:25.020 Rolo Tomasi has a phrase.
00:27:26.800 It's not the number, but it's like the number of like alphas or I can't, I'm butchering this.
00:27:31.080 Please don't rush me to chat.
00:27:32.020 But it's basically like the number of high value guys that she's been with.
00:27:35.740 Because if she's been with Drake, I don't know, the CEO of Budweiser, like how is, you know, Tom, Dick, or Harry going to compete with that?
00:27:45.280 C-O-L-G-F-G.
00:27:46.460 That's what I mean, yeah.
00:27:48.380 You know, she's always going to feel like she's settled.
00:27:50.520 And nobody wants to feel like they settled in a relationship.
00:27:52.800 But men can live with it.
00:27:55.520 Women can't.
00:27:56.320 I think anyway.
00:27:57.180 Do you think that's true?
00:27:57.800 Well, one thing that I really am very passionate about, like in our business, we're in the suit selling business, but really we recruit and hire young men.
00:28:04.540 And my pitch is very simple.
00:28:05.880 I hire young men and teach them how to make a million dollars a year.
00:28:07.820 That's what I do in my business, right?
00:28:09.340 Our company, you know, offices in 27 countries across the world.
00:28:13.160 Most of the guys that work with us are in their early to mid-20s when they start.
00:28:16.280 We teach them how to build value.
00:28:17.180 And I tell the guys this.
00:28:18.000 I'm like, don't get married in your 20s.
00:28:19.340 They go, what?
00:28:19.700 I'm like, you're going to be working 80 hours a week with us.
00:28:22.180 Just commit to that.
00:28:22.860 Work 80 hours a week.
00:28:24.060 And when you're not working, go to the gym.
00:28:25.660 Why?
00:28:26.020 Because by the time you get to 27, 28, 30, you're going to have a lot of money and a lot of muscles.
00:28:31.760 And then you can live the life that you want.
00:28:34.260 And that's what I teach.
00:28:35.280 So it's like the sort of what this conversation cultivates to is like, yeah, we can talk about what's a high value woman.
00:28:41.880 But the deeper question is, how does a man get a high value woman?
00:28:47.560 Because there is such a thing as a high value.
00:28:49.060 So how do you get that?
00:28:49.800 So I want to ask you girls, what do you think?
00:28:51.060 How does a man get a high value?
00:28:52.280 If you think you're a high value woman, how does a man get you?
00:28:54.740 And don't say lazy and funny.
00:28:56.020 I think definitely every man should go to the gym because that's the first thing a woman looks at.
00:29:03.700 You don't even have to be particularly good looking.
00:29:05.640 But if you're fit and you've got, you look like you can protect someone, you've got presence in a room, then that works straight away.
00:29:11.260 And then you have to be more than that.
00:29:13.620 So if you're funny, it helps if you've got charisma, if you've got a good job, if you've got drive.
00:29:18.540 And then I think the soft, nice stuff actually probably comes last or the cuddly, I think women can live without that.
00:29:28.620 I think you need it a bit.
00:29:29.700 But I think when men start with that and you go out with the nice guy and he gets you flowers, but he's not strong and he's not driven.
00:29:37.620 And he's not, it kind of makes you feel a bit sickly that they get you the flowers and they're nice to you all the time.
00:29:42.060 It's kind of too much.
00:29:42.960 Yeah, honestly.
00:29:43.960 And that sounds, but that's why nice guys don't get the girl.
00:29:47.920 It's because they, it's because they have nothing else to compete on.
00:29:51.800 It's because it's the easiest thing to project, but it doesn't require sacrifice.
00:29:56.620 But it's not that, because I was thinking earlier that if those guys just went to the gym and got a bit more presence, that's easier than trying to get those guys to be nice and lovely and, you know, and potentially commit.
00:30:12.460 So, you know, we always go for those guys hoping that they're going to choose us when actually they can choose from so many women and they don't care and they don't have any rush to settle down.
00:30:21.180 Why are they going to do that for us? What, as opposed to, sorry, they're nicer guys.
00:30:26.960 If you get a guy in the middle, it's kind of like a five across the board, he can kind of like boost up a bit and that, that, that's good.
00:30:33.780 Well, what do you think?
00:30:34.800 I think if I see my man treat his mum with respect, you know, treat, treat his, the women in his family, how they should be treated, because I've seen a lot of guys and they, they're horrible to their parents.
00:30:48.960 Who was your last boyfriend?
00:30:49.960 Three years ago, they're my only boyfriend.
00:30:52.780 Okay, was he nice to his mum?
00:30:55.360 Yeah, very nice.
00:30:56.540 Who ended the relationship?
00:30:58.500 Um, me.
00:31:01.180 So, let's not say listen to what women do, not say.
00:31:05.860 But, um...
00:31:06.480 Why? He was nice to his mum.
00:31:08.140 Yeah, he was nice to his mum, but he also liked to do a lot of really bad things.
00:31:13.560 So, that didn't do it for me, but that is definitely a big thing though, still, the parents.
00:31:19.360 Um, looking at hygiene.
00:31:21.880 So, you want to get laid, be nice to your mother, and shower.
00:31:24.760 Alright.
00:31:25.260 Hygiene.
00:31:26.260 Um, for me, I, I like a man with money.
00:31:30.560 Going to say it, because I need to feel stable as well, you know?
00:31:33.400 And women like to be looked after.
00:31:34.680 I appreciate the honesty.
00:31:36.320 I like to be looked after.
00:31:37.260 Because you're not capping, we don't cap on this show.
00:31:39.580 And I feel like, there's a lot of times where...
00:31:42.700 How much?
00:31:44.200 A lot.
00:31:44.500 Give me a number.
00:31:45.320 A lot.
00:31:45.680 So, I've been single for quite a while now, and I feel like I'm looking after myself all the time.
00:31:50.540 It gets to a point, you get fed up with that, and you actually just want a nice masculine man to take care of you,
00:31:56.380 and put you in his arms.
00:31:57.700 I like that.
00:31:58.620 And everyone's different, but that's what I like.
00:32:00.600 How much?
00:32:00.640 Give me a number.
00:32:01.280 How much does he have to make?
00:32:02.900 How much?
00:32:04.560 As long as I've got a nice house, I've got a nice car.
00:32:07.840 What does a nice house go for in London?
00:32:10.420 Oh, I wouldn't live in England anyway.
00:32:12.780 I'd live abroad, definitely.
00:32:14.800 Oh, so you're looking for a man in another country.
00:32:17.000 No, that would want to move.
00:32:18.160 So, hopefully, he's got his businesses all settled, and we can go.
00:32:20.980 What makes you think that guy will choose you?
00:32:24.320 Interesting question.
00:32:25.120 You know what?
00:32:25.900 I might never get a rich man in my life, but that's what I like.
00:32:29.740 So, hopefully, it get there.
00:32:31.740 Okay.
00:32:32.360 I might never get there.
00:32:33.180 Are you taking steps to get there?
00:32:35.180 At the moment, I'm healing on myself.
00:32:37.200 I've got a lot of issues.
00:32:38.140 I need to...
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