JustPearlyThings - November 18, 2023


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In this episode, we discuss the concept of incels and why they are a problem in our society and how to deal with them. Incels are people who have a problem with sex and a lack of sexual desire but they don't know how to talk about it because they don t know what to do about it.

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00:00:00.000 to him sleeping a lot of women i mean stds but also why is that the implication here is
00:00:07.920 is that a woman who sleeps with a lot of men right that's that's because because that's easy 1.00
00:00:12.240 to do so it's like it's easy for a woman to just sleep with a lot of guys go outside and say does 1.00
00:00:16.800 anyone want to have sex with me you can get it done if a dude does that they look at him like 0.97
00:00:20.480 he's nuts you know you know what changed my like perspective on this is i went to a pickup artist 0.99
00:00:26.320 boot camp once this is the wildest thing i've ever seen like these guys paid thousands of dollars to 0.96
00:00:32.080 learn how to get laid yeah thousands of dollars and literally like went through coaching like trying
00:00:37.840 to figure out how to build attraction with a girl like all this stuff so and i'm just like all i 0.98
00:00:42.320 all i have to do is exist so if you bring that back to what we have a vagina you will get laid but if 1.00
00:00:47.280 we bring that back to what we're talking about in terms of virginity when we were younger in terms of 0.95
00:00:50.480 like girls weren't really thinking about it that much and men kind of saw it as this victory right
00:00:53.520 isn't that what we're taught but that's what's pushed on to us that men losing their virginity
00:00:56.800 and sleeping with lots of women is like this you know like high achievement so they pay lots of 1.00
00:01:00.800 money because if you get laid a lot then you're seen as you know successful right yeah i would say
00:01:06.080 it is a high achievement because historically most men didn't even reproduce only 40 of men reproduced
00:01:11.440 historically where 80 of women did and even up 8 000 years ago 17 women reproduced for every one man 0.99
00:01:17.120 and so it's it's like that's an achievement most men don't even get to reproduce and i know like now you
00:01:22.800 know you take away the reproduction because we have birth control but you don't get rid of biology
00:01:27.040 so are we reducing it to reproduction then so when that was the initial yeah we've definitely
00:01:33.760 developed as a society right past that point where it's not just about reproduction but i'm saying like
00:01:37.920 you can't get rid of the way people feel in terms of like men are naturally predispositioned to be
00:01:43.600 repulsed by a girl that sleeps around and so i'm just like the same way you typically women like men that
00:01:48.800 are taller than us and men don't come to us and say oh you shouldn't like men taller than us like no
00:01:53.920 so i would say again that that would like there's some angry little men out there 0.83
00:02:04.240 in terms of like evolving over time right biologically evolving over time i'd say that
00:02:07.840 there's other attitudes that have also evolved over time kind of and then probably taking up more space
00:02:12.320 now maybe haven't got to the same point as that same mindset but i do think we can get to a point where
00:02:16.560 that can shift right especially because it's evolved it's a mindset that's evolved based on
00:02:20.640 what we've been taught we can be taught different things and change that gradually but we have to be
00:02:24.080 open to that so i i agree with you i do think it's evolved over time yeah where like typically before
00:02:30.880 as i said like i would say men are more forgiving with body count than they used to be so i would
00:02:35.040 i would agree with you that it has evolved but is it better like are the outcomes better i would
00:02:41.120 nowadays that any space that kind of promotes like i said acceptance and understanding of
00:02:45.440 why we behave in certain ways and why we drift towards certain things and and understanding
00:02:50.080 how it can harm because i feel like that kind of mindset of like um in terms of you know if you
00:02:54.560 slept a lot of people as like woman as a man you're successful is is essentially harmful um because it
00:02:59.760 places a lot of that emphasis on on that um harmful to him but the thing is it's true and i just think
00:03:05.840 like you can live in delusion and it's true right now and i would agree with that yes 100 i would say
00:03:10.640 that that is if we talk about the general that is kind of the general mindset at the moment i would agree
00:03:14.000 but does that mean it's the best mindset right and and who are you to determine what's the best
00:03:18.640 mindset yeah because i'm trying to understand you said it's harmful harmful to who like who is it so
00:03:22.960 so okay so in terms of like situations like grape right men who are like incels right who who don't
00:03:28.320 maybe have that same achievement right they they kind of resort to quite violent means in order to
00:03:33.040 reach that same level of success or they feel kind of like you know put out because they don't get to
00:03:37.120 be able to do it and that's why incel culture kind of develops because they think like a certain group of
00:03:40.480 men only gets all the women because you know they're this high level and then and then often 1.00
00:03:44.640 they turn violent right and it can be a very destructive view when you place all the emphasis
00:03:47.840 on that like macho not macho which is probably not the right word to say there um that like hyper
00:03:53.040 masculine focus on on on sexuality and seeing it as something to achieve right when we do that and
00:03:58.320 then men don't and then they don't feel masculine anymore and they feel emasculated by it and that can
00:04:02.960 turn very violent so it can be dangerous for society and i'm not saying this is me you know saying oh this is
00:04:07.280 i'm saying it's something it's a point to consider it's a thing to talk about when we're considering
00:04:11.040 what's best you're actually somewhat correct it is dangerous for society what like the more um
00:04:16.720 like the when there's a large group of men that aren't getting laid basically that is dangerous
00:04:20.640 for society you know what happens when men don't get laid yeah but it's because the emphasis is on
00:04:24.640 the fact you know and that's where we've put society becomes more aggressive no males become more
00:04:29.920 aggressive exactly men become more aggressive when they don't get i think that's because of the emphasis
00:04:33.600 that we put on being laid and essentially that comes from biology survival reproduction it's not
00:04:38.960 an emphasis it's a biological thing but it's it's we are taught that we are taught that through biology
00:04:43.760 that is something that is evolved based on what we've been taught and through a need for survival
00:04:46.240 right to reproduce to be able to you know reproduce your blood and lineage and that sort of thing
00:04:50.160 it's a survival you don't know what it is there are other ways to release you don't have to
00:04:55.040 release just hang on hang on you're you're a woman i'm a man men need to release their testosterone 0.76
00:04:59.520 they need to hang on hang on they need to find a way in which they need to release how do you release
00:05:05.520 how do you release what by shagging some shagging some birds is that how you release is that is that
00:05:10.240 your release is that sorry you just said you just said yeah i hear you but what i'm saying to you is
00:05:16.640 men are biologically wired a certain way okay are you a biologist men are biologically wired a certain
00:05:24.880 way okay okay so what happens so so what happens in society is that when men are not getting
00:05:32.560 sexual when men are not sexually um what's the word i'm looking for gratified gratified yes that's
00:05:39.600 the word when men are not sexually gratified they get more aggressive do they so when you get to the
00:05:45.280 mic please sorry sorry when they are more sexually gratified they're less violent is that what you're
00:05:50.560 saying okay that is the biggest logical fallacy i've ever heard in my entire life it's not a
00:05:56.400 logical fallacy it is it's true all right i would i would i would say thank you i'd have to agree all
00:06:00.960 right okay so so we've got three men saying it's true so you explain why it's a logical fallacy
00:06:06.560 so you're saying that if i don't get laid i'm gonna hit someone i said you explain why it's a logical
00:06:12.240 fallacy well you said you've never had trouble talking to women so you probably wouldn't know what
00:06:16.640 that's like right like you you said earlier in the show you've never had trouble talking to women
00:06:21.680 you're good with the ladies yeah so you guys should really ask justin about this yeah you should really
00:06:26.240 ask justin about this he has a lot of study and history and like knowledge on the going justin well 0.98
00:06:29.760 so i mean it's evolution psychology but more so than that like i mean if a man masturbates he can get it
00:06:35.200 really so you won't feel as aggressive right but if i mean i don't know if you guys ever heard of nofap
00:06:39.760 i'm a huge advocate for the nofap movement and i'm like seven years into it right and i know if i don't
00:06:46.400 have sex for like i don't know a week or two i start feeling extremely aggressive right and i think
00:06:52.400 it's very common for for men to feel that way because when you abstain from sex your testosterone
00:06:58.400 is increasing you need to have that release and if you don't believe me go try go stop drinking off
00:07:02.960 stop having sex for two weeks three weeks and see how you feel but would you not agree that there's 0.99
00:07:07.440 other ways to release other than just sexual you're a woman masturbation yeah no i've realized that i'm 0.99
00:07:13.040 talking to men thank you but i i can enter into the conversation and ask about it right and i'm 0.97
00:07:16.880 saying are there not other ways for you to release how not just sex through exercise right through
00:07:21.600 physical engagement and and healthy in in a controlled environment it's not the same as busting a
00:07:26.240 nut fair enough thank you just thank you for being so like so justin you're honest you're like
00:07:32.400 you're your club promoter you're a youtuber yep yes yes so like your your work outlet is
00:07:39.040 having conversations like this yeah and busting a nut yeah yeah yeah sweet so how how how do you
00:07:46.240 how do you manage your aggression you say you're seven years into this nofap how do you manage 0.99
00:07:49.600 your question when you feel it coming up you have sex fair enough what if what if you can't have sex
00:07:56.480 that's when they turn aggressive yeah that's that's those are the incels as we're talking about 0.88
00:08:00.240 that's what do you do get gravy what yeah what what what do you do as somebody who's actually
00:08:04.560 because i don't have this experience wet dreams well okay fair enough but there is you you do
00:08:10.240 manage your aggression that means you're not going around graping people or like hitting people or
00:08:16.080 stuff why do we have to go to the extreme no but i'm just wondering how i've never heard anything
00:08:21.760 you're actually somewhat you're you're somewhat correct like that does happen historically like when
00:08:26.960 um there are large groups of men that aren't getting laid like they do get angry and violent like you're
00:08:32.000 right but this guy seems to be like if he just gets laid yeah he's chilling yeah bless him bless his
00:08:38.720 cotton socks who don't they're they're they're doing okay managing their i mean luckily i mean i don't
00:08:46.320 want to say luckily but like corn is a thing yeah yeah yeah so that's that's what i would guess i i
00:08:52.080 personally believe the reason why i'm no uh no uh what's it called only fans it became so popular during
00:08:58.160 lockdown it's because there are a load of men that weren't getting late and so they had to find a
00:09:04.800 way in which to release they had to i'm sure porn uh corn sorry um consumption went through the roof
00:09:13.600 during lockdown there there's also another factor i think we're missing out on is that a lot of these men
00:09:17.520 that have are virgins and through their adulthood and haven't experienced that it's not just the sex
00:09:22.960 they're not even getting to experience what it's like to have female energy or right or affection
00:09:28.080 for a woman right they don't even get to experience that and i don't think people can fathom the idea 1.00
00:09:33.360 of how lonely of a life these men leave uh live like absolutely lonely just depressed people and you
00:09:41.040 know it's like i've met some of uh justin's students and some of them are you know he's a
00:09:45.920 pickup coach he's a dating coach i need to i need to like look you up justin but go on and some of
00:09:50.320 his students you know they're virgins and i'm meeting them and i'm like i can't even think
00:09:54.000 because sometimes to me when i hang out with girls it's not just sex like i say all the time you just 0.99
00:09:58.480 want to be around the female energy like if it's just sex you can get a prostitute and have just sex 0.99
00:10:03.360 it's empty right but to even have a female's attention affection you know towards you it's it's 1.00
00:10:08.880 fulfilling i think as a man but for a guy that doesn't even have that it's like they live in a
00:10:13.600 whole other world that i don't think most people understand justin if i could if i could ask you
00:10:18.560 candidly sure do you have it into the microphone please yes sorry i keep not speaking it's okay
00:10:24.160 it's not normally my jam no i get you um how do you have any close female friends definitely like
00:10:30.880 good friends like people that you completely open up yes yeah sweet cool um no just i just because i
00:10:36.800 like i like i work with i like i work with a lot of a lot of men who don't have female friends and
00:10:43.760 their female friends are acquaintances it's their it's their friends it's their friends
00:10:49.280 girlfriends it's that's and that's it and yeah so i'm not i'm not trying to like frame you yeah i
00:10:55.520 just i was just uh yeah yeah yeah so i kind of got a bit lost there but and imagine as a club promoter
00:11:01.600 you have to have a lot of female friends yeah so uh typically yeah yeah i bring out 300 girls a 1.00
00:11:06.880 weekend to party with me and i'm not sleeping all the girls but uh a lot of them i end up with them but
00:11:11.760 um you know most of them are just friends of mine and but it's it's cool because it gives me
00:11:16.240 constant access to meeting new women right like it is what it is like men need to release like i
00:11:23.600 don't know i would i don't know why that's such a hard thing to comprehend no no no no and i would
00:11:28.320 agree with you and i would agree with you and i would say that that is you know a biological factor
00:11:31.440 that we can't really account for but i think also in terms of like uh when you talk about loneliness
00:11:35.840 and when you talk about them not having really that nurturing energy to be around i think that's also
00:11:39.200 something to focus on as well as the reason they resort to aggression or violent tendencies is
00:11:42.800 largely because they probably don't have a nurturing side or that feminine energy that is 1.00
00:11:46.560 nurturing right um which is kind of like you know encouraging them to you know be more um soft i
00:11:55.040 want to say that's kind of like the feminine influence softens things right um and if you don't
00:11:59.360 have that around then you're more likely to resort to violent tendencies and i don't necessarily think
00:12:02.960 that sex is the only way to be able to deal with aggression soft men don't gain respect i disagree with
00:12:08.320 that i disagree with that what do you mean by soft men what do you mean by soft men don't women
00:12:12.560 don't respect soft men society doesn't respect softly what do you mean by soft feminine men
00:12:20.640 do not gain respect what do you mean by that okay so men that that are that are forthright within
00:12:26.000 within their views men that are stern men that are logical men that are authoritative gain respect
00:12:34.320 of course right but okay so soft men don't gain respect there's an emotional intelligence required 0.62
00:12:39.300 in there as well which i think would you still count as you know logical minded it's just
00:12:43.360 emotional intelligence i would say is more of a feminine aspect that we all have within us right 0.94
00:12:46.740 we all have emotions we all have a feeling side and being able to understand that is integral to
00:12:50.700 be able to managing yourself managing your impulses like your aggression right you can
00:12:54.700 understand why you feel aggression you're more able to manage it and if you're not how to do
00:12:57.960 that then what are you supposed to do well i think i think you're looking at that from a woman's 0.72
00:13:01.660 point of view okay and so and so i'm saying like that's not how men are respected in society
00:13:08.120 typically do you think that's a byproduct there's a reason i think i i think it's just like you can't
00:13:14.360 undo biology and it just is what it is and i just and i i just think we should stop trying to change
00:13:20.440 the way people are but you can undo biology there's epigenetics right your dna is constantly shifting
00:13:25.060 and changing basically environments you're in right you constantly respond to your environment right
00:13:28.860 your brain can constantly change it's constantly like um neuroplasticity right you can change your
00:13:32.920 biology right and it's about what we're fed you say society is you know that's the way it's set up
00:13:37.200 yes i agree but i think there's a better society where we can teach but but i just think i just think
00:13:41.600 who are you to say like how we should be and that's that's what i'm saying like i'm not like you're
00:13:45.880 trying to i'm saying like i'm saying we've gotten to this point yeah through like thousands of years
00:13:51.120 of evolution and like society's being built and now we're saying f it and let's change it
00:13:55.820 completely i'm not saying we haven't made mass developments and that sort of thing but i think
00:14:00.220 you know the there's a better way i'm not saying that my you know word is gospel or anything like
00:14:05.700 that i think it's worth talking about though when we live in a society where a lot of people are
00:14:10.600 struggling a lot of people are struggling to survive right and and it's not the best society for
00:14:15.060 everyone and if we truly want to incorporate everyone's best like interest into society and
00:14:19.840 make sure that everyone is understood and accepted and loved you know what we should do we should bring
00:14:24.060 back virgin girls because that would that would give the best best outcomes because like the best 1.00
00:14:29.700 outcomes is a family societies are built off of families so is it is it is it good for society
00:14:37.820 and people in general to have baby mamas left and right is that good is that good for a family is that
00:14:42.900 a healthy situation for a kid to grow up in if you have people who aren't understanding who aren't
00:14:47.140 compassionate and who aren't able to provide love then no i would say it's not a good society but i think
00:14:51.060 our society do you think in general just in general like wait wait can i can i just say would
00:14:55.820 you say in general it's good for a kid to be raised by a single mother in general just yes or
00:15:00.080 no i would say that yes or no this is this is kind of relevant no no i know i know but i need i
00:15:04.340 just i think it can be i think it can be it just depends on the community that's around them
00:15:07.660 it can't okay it really doesn't it does even though that puts a kid even though that puts a kid
00:15:14.000 at every statistical disadvantage they're more likely to run away from home they're more likely to drop out
00:15:17.740 of school because we live in a system that doesn't support single mothers doesn't support 0.99
00:15:20.760 how do you live in a divided system okay okay how do you not support single mothers when
00:15:25.340 if you get pregnant you can have an abortion and you get free housing if you get pregnant 0.96
00:15:29.860 i think housing is if you're a single mother is is is and you get and you get government benefits
00:15:33.780 those are basic human rights though right but that doesn't happen to men they're just homeless
00:15:38.080 they're just homeless so then i i there's a there's an issue with that too i think we all deserve
00:15:43.440 compassion and we deserve to live in a society where everyone has their basic human rights
00:15:46.760 right but i'm saying who pays for it who pays for like that's a conversation we need to start
00:15:51.080 having it's a conversation we genuinely need to start having if we want everyone to live at a 0.96
00:15:55.200 certain standard and actually be able to live and then how do we how do we like why do i have to pay
00:15:59.840 for someone who made poor decisions like if you chose to be a single mother i didn't choose to do
00:16:03.520 that i i damn well could be pregnant right now like why do i have to pay for someone else's bad 0.65
00:16:07.820 decision you made that decision and like oftentimes we try to take accountability off of women and we stop 0.69
00:16:13.300 them from facing the consequences of your decisions like that was a decision you made no and and i
00:16:17.640 agree i think everyone should have accountability but that we also can't place blame on people but
00:16:22.680 that comes with accountability it's blame but wouldn't when you place the blame right wouldn't
00:16:28.480 working out how we could make a better system like accountability is saying that was my fault and
00:16:32.640 taking blame so like even earlier when they're being accountable they're saying yeah i i'm taking the
00:16:37.020 blame so so collectively educating people to not make those decisions right to make decisions no i think
00:16:41.900 women are educated we just choose not to i mean you you know what you're doing when you have sex 1.00
00:16:45.440 you know when you're ovulating you you know if or if you're on birth control or not on birth
00:16:49.620 you know all of these things and you make a choice i would i would say the intelligent the the way we
00:16:54.040 are educated maybe is kind of the wrong focus because we're not educated around emotional you know
00:16:58.400 emotional stability we choose men who leave or we choose men who aren't going to stand up because
00:17:01.940 like you said last time that we we choose to ignore red flags right and i said there's a lot of factors
00:17:05.780 that go into that right and we aren't really taught you know about how our relationships with our
00:17:09.760 parents or how our you know primary relationships really govern the relationships that we choose
00:17:13.600 right and so a lot of us go through that kind of space not being aware of what we're choosing and
00:17:17.600 i'm not saying that removes accountability i say you have to be accountable but if we can create a
00:17:21.660 system that teaches people about these dynamics we can stop that from happening i think women know 0.99
00:17:25.460 we just don't care i mean i i have sat down with friends and said yo here's red flag number one
00:17:31.820 here's red flag number two i here's a powerpoint on why this isn't going to work
00:17:36.920 and and women we don't care because when we when we like a guy we just see no evil hear no evil right
00:17:43.680 and and if you end up in a bad situation you get pregnant by that guy like it doesn't matter women 1.00
00:17:49.780 don't care as a matter of fact last time when you were on the show i read a bunch of statistics as
00:17:54.440 to when it comes to single mothers right but then i hang on i read i read a bunch of statistics as to
00:17:59.080 why single uh children born of single mothers are statistically a disadvantage when it comes to
00:18:06.280 homelessness when it comes to prison when it comes to um adoption when it comes to all of these
00:18:12.660 things and still even with all the statistics people find a way in which to justify a reason
00:18:18.940 to become a single mother right and it's like when you speak i'm not saying that you know what you're
00:18:26.280 saying isn't valid i'm saying regardless after you speak the statistics are still there
00:18:31.460 they are still there but like i said last time i would say there are other factors that go into
00:18:36.520 that there are factors of the system right people living in poverty people living in circumstances
00:18:40.100 that they aren't able to probably give support to a child right and i'm not saying that society has
00:18:44.680 to step up and necessarily support that i think we should live in a more collective and collaborative
00:18:47.880 society where everyone puts in the same amount of effort i think i should have five million dollars
00:18:51.600 in my bank account but i don't i don't think that's relevant to what i was saying but fair enough i hope it
00:18:56.400 happens you think you think you think but the reality is different yeah i'm saying so the reality
00:19:00.740 is different but how can we shift the reality if we don't think if we don't think ahead to the way
00:19:04.920 we can do things better the way we can support people better right how can we change the world
00:19:08.460 we're in to help people live if we don't think about that if we don't have these i would say by
00:19:13.420 taking accountability for your decisions and saying don't sleep around with men you don't want to
00:19:17.960 be fathers with i like and i'm saying i'm saying like take accountability for the lot your lot in life
00:19:23.240 hey if you get pregnant and you're a single mom no one's bailing you out because that's a poor 1.00
00:19:26.620 decision yeah like i and i think that would remove that would like even we had um this grandma on here 1.00
00:19:33.100 grant auntie auntie jenny and she was saying like people in her day would get pregnant because they
00:19:37.720 wanted to move out of their house and the government got them a house in my day in my day women would get 1.00
00:19:43.660 pregnant just so they can get a flat just so they can get an apartment yeah because because uk government 0.96
00:19:49.740 would give you an apartment if you're a single mother and i think you have a really positive
00:19:53.280 like worldview where you think maybe people won't take advantage of that but they do
00:19:57.120 no and i'm i'm aware of that and i i do know that i have a very you know i i am aware of that within
00:20:03.140 myself it's not whimsical i'm trying i'm working on grounding it which is why i enjoy being in spaces
00:20:07.740 like this because it helps pull me out of that but i don't think it's impossible to be able to build a
00:20:11.820 world like that and i do agree that people will take advantage of it right but it's about getting to a
00:20:16.140 point where they don't have to take advantage of it where we can educate people about accountability
00:20:19.660 and making better choices right but we have to also bring compassion and understanding before we
00:20:23.840 do that understand why people in these situations so you can shift it so what what happens when you
00:20:28.200 educate people and they don't care so i'll give you i'll give you okay i'll give you an example
00:20:32.720 so i i have a relative okay i'm not gonna sometimes my family's watching these lives i gotta be more
00:20:38.980 broad i have i have i have no sometimes i be a little too specific in my stories and i hear back
00:20:45.200 um i have a relative and she is someone who will probably be homeless and on the street 0.79
00:20:50.820 um and the reason is because she is a single mom and the reason is because she made poor decisions 0.86
00:20:57.320 where she's an alcoholic for years and stole from every every relative until everyone was sick of 1.00
00:21:03.660 taking care of her yeah and so it's like why does she need to get bailed out because she makes 1.00
00:21:08.640 poor decisions she robbed all of us and and i agree right again accountability is what led to
00:21:15.360 those decisions i don't know her her brother trauma that's what i mean and that's what i'm saying you
00:21:19.360 have to understand this and i'm not saying it's not an excuse right they still have to take
00:21:22.860 accountability for it that people who have mental health episodes who you're awful to people still
00:21:26.740 take accountability for that but if you can understand the root of it you can begin to shift
00:21:30.300 you can understand the root and still take accountability and by dealing with the consequences
00:21:36.300 and having no one bail you out like my my dad grew up in the same home he grew up to be a
00:21:40.600 multi-millionaire with 10 kids and a beautiful family and so it's like same house you like and
00:21:45.580 that's what i'm saying you don't have an excuse like she doesn't have an excuse she she had the 0.95
00:21:49.120 yeah i have a very like similar family situation friendly enough it's actually sorry
00:21:53.440 i have a fairly similar family situation where my dad was someone who built himself out of that
00:21:59.000 situation he made better choices and he provided with the life i had because he made a decision to
00:22:03.060 get out and you know the rest of his family didn't really do that and i've seen that right and i
00:22:08.660 understand that but i still think they deserve compassion for what they've had to struggle with
00:22:12.000 right some people are predisposed to making bad choices and but just based on you know i don't know
00:22:16.660 i guess but there's a difference between there's a difference between there's a difference between
00:22:22.000 compassion i can i can say like i understand but there's i don't think it's compassionate or kind
00:22:27.960 to bail someone out of a bad decision and allow them to keep doing it like in this in this situation
00:22:32.860 i think that relative would have stopped if people stopped bailing her out and while and initially it
00:22:38.500 seems kind and compassionate it allowed her to use everyone for years and if someone cut her off
00:22:43.940 from the beginning she may have had a better outcome right yeah sorry tennis back and forth 0.98
00:22:51.420 i want to kind of go back to what i the initial question i asked about men being holes
00:22:56.200 and um justin was you justin yep you were saying that men can't be holes right um do as a woman
00:23:05.280 do you understand why a man can't be a hole 1.00
00:23:08.620 based on the conversation that we've had and the way that you look at it
00:23:15.160 yes but i would say that i i i look at it a bit differently but because i don't apply that
00:23:20.820 same like guys could you explain why men can't be no i i understood your explanation i get it right
00:23:25.560 it's success because you have to work so hard to sleep with so many women so therefore you're not 0.99
00:23:28.720 a hoe because the effort you have to put in i get it right for me i don't equate success with how 0.99
00:23:33.840 many people do you also get that women generally want men with sexual experience
00:23:38.660 i think it depends on the person to be honest um i think personally yeah i prefer someone with
00:23:44.120 sexual experience probably but i also would be with someone without sexual experience if we
00:23:48.700 connected it just kind of depends on in your vibe is you know do you think that women want a man
00:23:53.760 with sexual experience on no sexual experience yeah yeah but i mean it's not like a trick question
00:23:58.880 it's yeah it's just yeah it's an honest question yeah but i do think it's possible to
00:24:02.280 also be with someone who doesn't have sexual experience just because that's my preferred
00:24:05.460 because that's what i mean a lot of things are you're going going like like where does this
00:24:10.400 even come up in that like do you go oh hey i'm i've met this girl i'm gonna maybe sleep with them
00:24:15.840 oh how much like oh they're gonna go oh how many how many girls have you slept with oh what's the 0.59
00:24:20.400 transaction no i think it's conversation with everybody i sleep with like i actually ask every
00:24:24.840 single almost every single girl i meet and hang out i'm just out of curiosity do you put a lot
00:24:28.440 of weight on that so if a woman has slept with a lot of like men do you say okay i'm not
00:24:32.220 going to sleep with you just because no i personally i love women who in general uh and 1.00
00:24:36.780 i i definitely like hoes but i won't date them why because uh i don't want a woman i'm going to be 1.00
00:24:42.860 emotionally committed to to have all this emotional baggage from a past relationships so it doesn't
00:24:48.120 necessarily have this is kind of what i was trying to say before it doesn't have to equate to emotional
00:24:51.180 baggage if if a person chooses to acknowledge it and take accountability for the fact that they
00:24:55.200 slept a lot of people right you can step out of what people can change their habits would you say
00:24:58.400 in general it does in in i think general like a like a girl a girl like we had we had linda on the
00:25:06.460 show yeah yeah this girl is so cute and innocent she she she's 20 and a virgin yeah like she's the 1.00
00:25:12.540 cutest sweet she was on the law show and what's her instagram for 0.99
00:25:15.760 and and like like you could tell she had no baggage no trauma like every like like joke anyone would say
00:25:25.140 like it would just go over her head because she was so innocent you just don't get that with girls 0.99
00:25:28.900 that have slept around a lot like you can you can even if you don't know their body count like you
00:25:34.520 can kind of just tell because they're more damaged people can have damage without having slept around
00:25:40.360 you can have emotional baggage without it being related to people you said you're right you're
00:25:44.780 correct you can but i'm saying in general yeah would you say that the virgins tend to have less 0.88
00:25:49.740 baggage than the people that did only fans i said they probably have other baggage well that's what
00:25:55.020 i mean maybe less sexual baggage i like your reactions but you need to learn to articulate 0.75
00:26:00.060 them like this is i love it i love it this blows my fucking mind why this is because this is all 0.98
00:26:05.920 like i would not even consider any one of these things a prerequisite or a parameter for like someone 0.73
00:26:12.300 that i would potentially enter into a relationship or have intimacy with or like it just it would it's
00:26:18.780 completely fucking foreign to me excuse my language no no it's fine like like it just it's just 0.95
00:26:24.820 completely foreign to me i would not i like i don't understand it i've been in polyamorous relationships 0.96
00:26:30.440 i've been like i i i just i just like yeah well i just i just don't understand it it just like i would
00:26:37.860 never even be like oh hey hey we're like hanging out for the first time how many people have you slept
00:26:44.040 with like it just wouldn't even wouldn't even come into my brain how often are you meeting new dating
00:26:48.380 partners like fairly fairly frequently so you're not communicating with them what's that you're not
00:26:54.180 like communicating with them but why yeah of course i am i i think the point is more that like body
00:27:00.280 count isn't really a part of what they value in communication relationships are you saying that
00:27:04.440 you're in a relationship where the woman that you're with can sleep with other men yeah i've been
00:27:08.460 an open relationship it's plenty like that's that was actually my question i just wanted to clarify
00:27:12.260 yeah yeah yeah i'll gladly clarify so the woman that you're with is actually cool with sleeping with 0.99
00:27:16.260 other men well like you're cool with it well like it's like it's not particularly in this no not in
00:27:22.280 this moment but yeah yeah many times many times but it's also meant that i've been able to sleep
00:27:26.660 with other people so do you know what a cuckold is i know exactly what it is yeah that's what that
00:27:31.160 would be yeah so you've been a cuckold no no that's not exactly no no because it's completely
00:27:35.640 consensual and it's completely with boundaries in place do you have any preference just out of
00:27:40.340 curiosity in terms of what uh whether you guys have an open relationship or just a committed
00:27:44.060 relationship um i normally prefer an open relationship so you prefer her being able to 0.99
00:27:50.760 sleep with other guys and maybe she got to sleep with other people as well no judgment on it i'm just
00:27:55.400 curious like you it doesn't matter to you she comes home she got railed by three different dudes 1.00
00:27:59.180 and then she comes back says baby i love you i'm just like if that's her choice and i think i think
00:28:05.400 as well with that it kind of allows my masculinity isn't that fragile i'm quiet i'm like i don't i 0.99
00:28:12.320 don't know how much masculinity you have after a woman is you're allowing your woman to get penises 1.00
00:28:18.260 from somewhere else sweet how do you define masculinity um men are territorial creatures are they yeah they are 0.98
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