He was ROASTED by The Panel For Saying This
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Summary
On this episode of the podcast, the guys debate whether or not you should give hoes a chance. They also debate if women should have standards when it comes to dating and what they should look for in a potential partner.
Transcript
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I can choose and be like, do I accept your past?
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Or do I judge you by your past based on your current actions?
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Because every woman, and just like every man, can be taught.
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We can all change our habits and practice different ways of applying ourselves.
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That's why you see dudes that will be a gangster on the road and come home religious.
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They can be in that stage until they really take steps to get themselves out of that stage.
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And then as soon as they're out of that stage, it's like an unwritten kind of broadcast that goes out.
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Even though you might have hollered at her like a hoe back in the day.
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But you can see from your side, man, like you were saying, perspective.
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I'm just saying I feel like people, once you kind of hear this rhetoric all the time,
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where you generalize based on the common, you know, the average modern woman,
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which you probably don't want to have a long-term relationship with,
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I feel like you start to see that all the time.
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And I think there's a lot more women out here who are intelligent
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and who do value their chastity in a way that's sufficient for, you know,
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Alex, I'm just saying, I think most men don't have that high of standards.
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I think this is like kind of a crazy argument because men really don't ask for much.
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I don't even know a single guy that's saying, oh, oh, like maybe one out of the months I've done the show
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They say 10, but they mean 15 to 20 because like when I press them a little bit,
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if I say, oh, 20 but really hot with good chemistry, they're like, ah, I'll let it go.
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Or I'll see who they date and I'm like, ah, it's a little 50.
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But it's like, I just don't know what are you arguing.
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No, I'm just, I'm just making like a passive point.
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That like you've got to be wary of generalizing people or women based on the women you don't want.
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Because I found in my life that the more I've heard this rhetoric,
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And I've realized in a lot of cases, they weren't actually like that.
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Because I was thinking about, you know, all this kind of rhetoric.
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I judged them very quickly and later realized, oh, shit, she wasn't actually like that.
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I just, I think the point is like, even if you get married, it's still 50-50.
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But I'm not disagreeing with anyone or check in or anything like that.
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Like, what it sounds like to me, like I'm trying to decipher what you're saying,
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I've heard guys say, like, the fours and the threes.
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Because they're just, like, so happy to be there.
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They're like, you don't even have to take her out to dinner.
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Like, the girls you're talking about are the bin, like, what we call paper bags, plastic bag girls, where you put the bag on their head.
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Because they don't have the ability to sell themselves to the entire market.
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They're the bottom of the barrel men who take what they can.
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Just like how we know men have sex with who they can, and women have sex with who they want.
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Then there's a lot of girls that ain't hoes, because the whole point is that most girls have sex for insecurity.
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There's a lot of girls that you know that ain't pretty.
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That ain't the prettier of the bunch, but will sleep with anyone and take whatever attention they can get.
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Just because she's not in the top thing of beauty, it doesn't mean she's not a ho.
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You're ugly, and you've had lots of dick in your vagina.
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No, no, you're proving my point in saying that the amount of people that you sleep with makes you a ho.
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Because I only just talked about sleeping with a pasta, but you proved my point.
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No, you said an ugly girl that sees a lot of people can't be a ho.
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Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, we're going to move on from this.
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I think there should be 2,000 likes on this video.
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I don't – I think we've only gotten to 2,000 likes a couple times, so make sure you guys are liking the video.
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Any self-respecting man who would wife up a girl who had a history of long-term relationships, any girl who says,
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I needed to heal or find myself has been ran through.
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Every girlfriend had the opportunity of being one.
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Western women are generally the destroyers of legacy.
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You cannot be a high-value man if you have nothing to delegate to your woman.
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You should not – you should be on your mission, and she should be helping you build a legacy.
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You are not your high-value – you are not a high-value man if your woman is idle doing her thing.
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Denalva, you should stop advocating for people choosing to have bad relationship experiences.
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People normally learn what not to do from other people's experiences.
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Sameh, Tagan, Denalva, y'all don't need six-foot men but still want them.
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Many of the problems in the West, such as broken families and dysfunctional communities, could be solved if women waited until marriage.
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I mean, I think that's ideal, but there's always going to be a home.
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If you don't need experiences – if you don't need to experience stuff to know it's bad, experiences leave you with a scar and trauma.
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You want to learn from other people's experiences.
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Men judge her past and have standards and build yourself up.
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Child support and custody battles and losing half your resources.
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People have sex no matter what justification – people have sex no matter the justifications made.
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Not everyone goes on to ride the carousel because it's easy to do so.
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Hence, terms like hoe, skeet, public property, just saying.
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A real man will always know if you've been around.
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It takes activating a certain part of your ego to be able to sleep around.
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If they are friends with you, then they are also 304s.
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If you are friends with a woman that defends 304 behavior, then you're also a 304.
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If you meet a man who dished out delicious knuckle sandwiches to his exes on a regular basis,
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should that matter on whether you stay with him?
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Kamal, Pearl, you need a black dress, so help me God.
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Married lady is the sanest human to ever show up on the channel.
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Why do women defend being a 304 so much but expect men not to assume that they've also
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If your friends are 304s, then by default, you are also 304 unless you are a 304.
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Would you rather someone protects your ego and not point out a problem letting it linger
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like a bad fart or have them tell it straight to your ego straight?
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Let your ego take the damage and improve on it to prevent it again.
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Overindulgence in anything that's easy to do is shameful.
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Disrespectful equals unflattering remark towards women.
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Sleeping with multiple people is not what makes you a 304.
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What makes you a 304 is why you sleep with them and how quickly you move on from it.
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Sorry, ladies, but if you get paid to do potty tricks in Dubai, you're both a 304 and you're
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Notice the married brain thought versus the single woman.
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Sugar babies, Instagram models are all essentially professionals.
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Shame is needed to hold society to a certain standard.
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If you want to bring back, if you don't want to bring back shame, you're afraid of accountability.
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If you have a poop scoop, raptor claws, anti-aircraft eyelashes, and meters of fake hair, you're not an 8.5.
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Most modern women's egos are fragile as silence and it's usually to manipulate people, especially the emotional ones.
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Please start with the women listening to learn.
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Please listen with your ears as a brain, then put your heart in it.
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Understanding of men will help you turn out better.
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Have you guys had a whole phase and how long did it last?
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It was like for when I was thinking like 14, got out of another relationship, started dipping around.
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And then I very quickly noticed that I kind of had it easy with girls.
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I don't need to be chasing like everyone else likes doing.
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And it was kind of like a stereotype that was put on top of me that I was going to get someone pregnant when I was young.
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So then I did the opposite and kind of flipped it.
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At least that way I know that whoever's with me is not with me for the success I'm going to have.
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I knew that I was going to end up being in a good place in the future.
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But I knew that who I wanted by my side would be someone that I knew was there for me and not for the resources I can provide.
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And what stood out about your wife that made you pick her?
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But it was very clear to see from the get-go that she was going to be there for the long term.
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And especially with the stuff that I do outside of that professional life.
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I'm so sorry, my love, that I'm interrupting you.
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But something that he doesn't want to say in front of people.
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So I think from a very young age, we were like 16.
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Like, she's, like, he was so close with his family.
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Mine started when, I think, I lost my virginia when I was 14.
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And I would say it went on for until I was about...
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There will be a couple months in where I won't even do nothing with a girl.
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And then there will be, like, maybe five months where I'm just doing...
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And then when I hit about 21, 22, kind of started to chill down.
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And then you just kind of want to look for someone.
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I don't even really like to call what men do a whole phase.
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I mean, okay, but we could say sour and they're wild oats.
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I guess, like I said, probably like my brother, when I lost my virginity.
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And, you know, you kind of know from seeing how women interact with other men,
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And I was, like, I didn't really have problems sleeping with women.
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So I guess my whole phase is paused when I was in relationships.
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Like, I've been in, like, three serious, serious relationships in my whole life.
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And in those periods, I proactively tried to be, you know,
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everything that you would want in that relationship.
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But because the people who I was with didn't make that same commitment,
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So, like, you know, if I found something like your wife,
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I probably would have been, you know, more inclined to actually ride it out.
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And the person I actually had the longest and the deepest relationship with
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was somebody who proactively pursued me as well, in a sense.
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Whereas everybody else, I kind of, you know, made them my girlfriend type stuff.
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Because, so, I lost my virginity in second year of uni,
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I didn't understand the reason to get in relationships.
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These guys running around talking about whose hand they held.
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And I still don't really understand most relationships of like, why should I like spend so much time talking
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and building up some emotional relationship, especially when, you know, if it ends,
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then you're distracted for like two months until you reset or whatever.
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So, uni, I've always been extremely picky though.
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So, maybe a hoe for me is different, but I have high standards of myself.
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So, like the idea that like some guys will sleep with someone because she's up for it is disgusting to me.
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And that's kind of nasty if you just pick anyone.
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Especially if women who kind of are like that tend to be not very picky in general.
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I'm not narcissistic enough to believe that like I'm special.
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This girl in the club saw me and realized that I had an aura and wanted to know.
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She's probably gotten with the other three Nigerian guys.
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Do you guys feel like men end up with the girl that met them at the right time?
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Like that was there when they were done with their hofays and ready to settle down?
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The one that I think the one that met them because I was with my son's dad for nine years.
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And he's ended up with the one that kind of he cheated and then he cheated and she then was like the last cheat.
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So, like he cheated on each person with each person and then he's ended up with the one that would.
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I mean, so what do you, so guys, what do you, what do you think?
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I think it depends on the guy and where their headspace is at.
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Because, I mean, I know that I'm an anomaly so I can't really talk for all guys.
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But I know that when we met, I kind of already made that conscious choice.
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And I remember having that conversation with my mom when I was 16 and I'm being like, yeah, I think if I start with this one, that's going to be it.
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But I can understand why most guys until later in life won't really get to that stage.
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So I think it's where they're at in their headspace.
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So you think it's, it sounds like you said more at the right time?
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And most men won't even commit into a situation if they ain't where they want to be in their head.
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If you, if I meet somebody, because I can meet somebody anywhere and at any time, but I've always got a master plan, pinky in the brain plan in my head that I've had from since I was young that where I'm going to achieve in life.
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So if somebody comes in and shows attributes that they're going to add to that journey, they're more likely to keep that person around because they're not taken away from where I'm trying to go.
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They're adding to it versus if it's somebody who's got their own life going on and they don't really want to, you know, involve themselves in your life so much.
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Be like, all right, I'll hook up with you, but I don't see this going beyond where it's at now.
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It feels more like men is whichever one comes first.
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If the right one comes first, they'll settle for the right one.
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If the right one doesn't come first, they'll settle for the right time.
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But then you think that's because they can, if, if a girl's adaptable to their lifestyle and they get on with the program, then they can, they can mold them into what they want from their life.
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Do you think, do you think the, I'm just saying true or untrue, can the right girl make a guy settle down when he's not ready?
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Should have to be, should have to be like seriously, like capable to like serious.
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What is it that makes a man not be wanting to settle if she's the right one?
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If she's the right one, why would you pass on the right one?
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Maybe some man don't want to give up that lifestyle that they're living or, or she, I don't know.
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What's the lifestyle saying that is better than finding the woman?
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Some guys are just addicted to the girl's attention or getting girls or doing things with girls and they don't want to settle down.
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They're stuck in the streets and they don't know how to get out.
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So, so like, I'm just saying like, obviously some, the, the situations we need to not also take accountability because the right woman will sometimes come across the right, the man.
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And because he's not in the right place in his mind because he likes the streets too much because he doesn't want to make the right decision.
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But that's, but, but that's not the, the point is not that because if she picked him and he has now a position of choice, he's not making the right choice.
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So we can't continue to make the right decision.
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So why are we calling girls a hoes all the time because they make good decisions like that?
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Like sometimes it's the best thing that ever happened and sometimes it wasn't.
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And then, so I said, so this, this was what I said.
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So when you settle at the right time that you feel like it's the right time, but you've missed out on the right one, it's likely to be the case where you're going to actually pick somebody that's probably not going to be the best for you.
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So I would just say, instead of you always trying to think about the right time, if the right person comes along, that's the first priority.
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Denalva, Denalva, I think that's a female point of view.
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I might seem like the right person at the time.
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Because if we, if we find the right guy, we'll drop everything.
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But they all said if there's an extremely exceptional woman, they'll do it.
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If this is the thing, and that is also one of the issues that I have, because we like to point out problems, but then when the solution comes into the table, everybody rejects it.
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How is it that we can sit here and complain about men or the girls, this, girls make bad decisions.
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And we're saying, oh yeah, if I'm not in the right space, I'll let the right one go.
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And then you're happy to say something like that.
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Women pick men that clearly aren't in the space of their lives to settle down.
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If I, if I date a 26 year old, he's probably not ready.
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Women try to date their age and then they're confused why he's not ready to settle down.
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Yeah, yeah, I mean, and there's like, and also, I mean, some, some guys are right, but it's usually pretty obvious which ones are and which ones aren't.
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And if you ask, they'll usually tell you, but we don't listen.
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And so since we always keep talking about youth, right?
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I don't think youth in a woman means it's the right time for, for you to be with her, which means all these men that high value in their 30 going for younger women.
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It's like me going into a shop and like, oh, I want to buy this t-shirt.
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Okay, because if a man, if a man wants four kids, why on earth would he pick a 30 year old?
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Well, yeah, I'm 35 and there's no way I would date somebody who wants to have multiple children.
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I am not ready to walk around with a big old belly and have a baby on my baby.
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Yeah, and probably you would be in geriatric pregnancy.
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I mean, I think my eggs are good, but I mean, you think, but you think, yeah, but it's still a risk.
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I'm explaining the simple fact that you cannot be complaining about women, saying that women doing this and women doing that when you're picking them at the wrong time.
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And then you're coming up with a whole different timeline anyway.
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I just want to understand this because it doesn't make sense.
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There's less trauma, less baggage, and they look better.
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Okay, the same way that women prefer the top 1% and actually a lot of the time they look the right one.
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But the difference, the difference is what men want is attainable.
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Well, I don't know if that's attainable in the way that we're talking about now.
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Under 30, under 30, roughly, maybe, you know, most guys will even be generous.
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Because this is, again, another problem with men.
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Men, why are you picking just based on the fact that a woman is under 30?
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Update your skincare routine and you'll pass for younger, all right?
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Dineva, Dineva, Dineva, if a man wants kids, you're 30.
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Gone, Naiski, Nada, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone.
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It doesn't matter what you want or what you think.
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Before you explain something, let me cut you off completely forever.
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My answer was, so I always, uh, have you seen Rum Diaries with Donny?
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So he, I like that kind of lifestyle of like being a well-traveled dude who's experienced
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Some guys are very conservative and they want to settle down straight off the university.
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I always, I always wanted to, I always wanted to experience the world and to come back and
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have experiences of value that would allow me to add an engaged relationship in a certain
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way, which is why I'm a little bit more tolerant than the conservative guys and some of these
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So I would say it depends on the guy because I'm not really driven by, oh, I'm going to
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meet someone, I'm going to connect so much, I'm going to drop everything.
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Um, it has to be a point where I've decided in my mind that like, all right, I've seen
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Let me start like preparing to chill out, you know?
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I do think that, um, like older men and younger women do just go really well together.
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Like, cause men aren't ready to like put the streets down so early and stuff.
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Like women do tend to want to stop their high phase a lot earlier than men do.
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