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- May 17, 2023
Heated Debate On ABORTION
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14 minutes
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Word Count
2,943
Sentence Count
8
Misogynist Sentences
11
Hate Speech Sentences
6
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do you think that like the narrative of adoption this is a like completely neutral stance has been
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like force-fed by the government to like depopulize um what do you mean um like lower the population
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basically yeah do you think there's other uh beings at force that are feeding the narrative
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and funding the there's just too much shit that like lines up like i don't know in the in the u.s
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it's actually it's actually really creepy um because as i was saying earlier um i mean birth
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control was developed in the 1960s and they then they develop abortion um i don't know if adoption
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like goes into that because i'd imagine if people want a population control they would encourage
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abortion over adoption um but now in the u.s it's actually really like margaret sanger was a eugenicist
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and that's the number one provider of planned parenthood and her her goal was to exterminate
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the black population and she's doing it the black population would be double today in the u.s
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and 80 of planned parenthoods are located located in a minority neighborhood and you when you think
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about it like if a normal company that was how they were founded people would be up in arms but nobody
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cares and it's like a genocide that's happening in front of our eyes and they they mark like they
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would have marketing plans that talked about like this is how we market it to low-income women this is
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how we market it that still exists as a company it's like you know they they denounce it but it's
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like if you say oh we're not doing it but you're still doing the same thing it's like i but you
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know no one cares and because it's like a woman's right to choose and it's interesting because i don't
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know if you've looked at like the marketing language that they talk about where it's like they instead of
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calling it a baby they'll call it a fetus and they do that like language is important and they do that
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so people aren't as aware of what they're doing and it's kind of like you know when she said she
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had her abortion and it came out and it was a full a full child she had no idea do you think that like
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the uh abortion uh companies or services insert appropriate word there um intentionally hide the
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visual graphic side of it for that or do you think they've heard someone come to them and say i don't
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want this this is my choice and then they are protecting their mental health which is what they've come to
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say that they can't have it for um 100 i mean too many people which way does that go i just i just
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think it's a business and i just think they're trying to make and and there is a girl that quit
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planned parenthood that came out and talked about this how um what they do is they put you on birth
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control that doesn't really work so how many girls take the pill at the same time every day
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and that they try to push those and then what they'll do is they'll um then push abortion and
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they're supposed to push like a like say this is your option for adoption this is this this is that
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but they don't really do that they just push abortion and then they get paid for yes that's
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what she said in the uk and the u.s in the u.s and why like they they say oh we have all these
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different services but why are the planned parenthood clinics shutting down in the u.s if that's true
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when roe versus wade was passed if it's just one of many services and in the uk the same thing
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i don't um the uk know they're government funded so there you go to nhs 90 i think it says so it's
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not a business driven decision here the same way but still there's people who have got those
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um kind of contracts so mary soaps and bpass have uh abortion industries that are have got those
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contracts and they have like we could like google the profits of their company and actually see whether
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they are profiting from the decisions based and therefore give like an in an intention as to why
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they would hide the graphics and visuals behind it i know obviously the experience that you guys think
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i think about okay think of imagine you're you're selling something and your goal is to make money
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yeah i don't i don't necessarily think that every person that works at planned parenthood
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is thinking about eugenics right i don't necessarily but i do think people in general want to make money
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money so if you were going to start a planned parenthood and you put it in you put it somewhere
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right and you found out that you lose 50 of your customer base let's i'm just doing a number i don't
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know what they actually are but let's say you lose 50 of your customer base and you get paid um let's say
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a thousand dollars per abortion so if there's 20 customers that come in you could get twenty thousand
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dollars um and let's say so you can make twenty thousand dollars without showing them anything
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or you can make ten thousand dollars and show them stuff what are you what are you going to do
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yeah is my guess but i don't i don't actually know and in the uk and then the uk well the uk so
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privately funded so in the uk sorry in the in the uk like you have to understand there's still government
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contracts so like right now i have a private business like i i own the studio this is like just me
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but let's say i wanted to be get fund i'm looking when i go to the u.s um about getting seeing if like
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different cities um could give us funding potentially and you still have to like bid for
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a contract so if you want to go i don't know into sell missiles to the government like you still have
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to bid and like there's still money and you see what i'm saying it just comes someone somewhere in
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the uk that is making money of not showing people the graphics and visual sides of abortions as is my
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guess i'm not i don't know this i'm just that's that's what i would guess is they're in it for money
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question the question is really why are they not showing those those i guess because more people
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would say no yeah my yeah i guess my my assumption of it is obviously there's that side of it but also
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like if you've gone there and you said like i don't want to keep this baby based on my mental health
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from a psychologist's stance would it be good for your mental health to then show you an extremely
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graphic image or procedure when you've already decided that you don't want that yeah like at what
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point does it become protection of your mental health which is the reason why you went in the
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first place 100 because if your mental health is bad now and then you you have an abortion and see
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what the hell is going on here it's going to get way worse than it already was yeah yeah 100 like
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imagine if before imagine if if your mental health was bad like you're depressed and anxious
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everything and then they they for example you don't get shown the video right and then you have
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the abortion and then you you become more depressed because like if you if they actually just gave you
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that warning sign like okay look here's what it looks like here's what it's going to be here's what
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it might happen here you know you kind of would consider it like oh i think my mental health would get way
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worse and i feel like let me just try and give it a go you know i think it's so you do believe their
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intention isn't to protect your mental health on any level and that's why they've not decided to
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show you the picture before despite offering you do you think counseling services after do you think
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intention matters if the outcome is is if the out does intention matter if the outcome is women
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not being informed about a medical procedure i think that it's important to be objective and
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understand as to why that decision was made like subjectively obviously being explained medical
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procedures maybe a good implementation in that process would be to be given the choice
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do you want to see this do you not i don't know if that is an option or not whether you actually
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are given that choice no it's not but i feel like if we because obviously if i've come to a doctor and
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said like i'm experiencing xyz and i'm suffering and i can't do this and i don't want this and i
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mental health tick they're not gonna then just like oh and by the way here's a slideshow that i
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prepared earlier of extremely graphic images that you're about to decide that you want to
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go through yeah but they should tell you what's going on yeah but did they not even did they not
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explain to you that you're you're gonna have the baby removed from your body is that they didn't
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even explain conditions that you must surely you have to sign somewhere let her yeah go ahead
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they don't even show you like what it can look like like say like the stages of the baby they don't
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even show you that did you sign anything they just say the tissues will come out the tissues they
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don't even say a baby or a body or anything just tissues cells how they say do you sign it off like
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is it like oh that's just mad i can't i can't remember if i was quite long ago um yeah because
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that like surely if you signed it like what are you actually signing like did you read it you know
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like is there an actual like uh comprehensive understanding of like how does it work this is
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part of the informing process though because like i mentioned before and as i feel like everybody
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would agree on this panel if you're going in for a procedure in the hospital everything is explained
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to you you you you are walked through whatever procedure you're going to have with that consultant
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before you get to the end point where you are signing off because i do remember i did sign a
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piece of paper now am i signing that piece of paper based on being informed properly or am i signing that
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piece of paper based on the other elements that are taking place and the other circumstances that has
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brought me to that point does that make sense yeah um so no doctors are not carefully um considering
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what this woman is going through because if you did you would then walk her through that process
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yeah why are you why is it such a rest decision to get her to sign that piece of paper or to agree
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to having that abortion i don't see the duty of care in that are we displayed like or is it like
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a given that in all um so like across the board of all medical procedures in the uk are we always
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given pictures and videos of the procedure that we're about to go under no but we can at least
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google it that's why so we cannot google abortion no it's very hard it's very hard but is it possible
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because we have the pamphlet right there that displays no that's no that's why like in all
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honesty that's why i invited her on because that's why no because no because because i i tried to do
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a similar like show a couple months ago and i just thought it was crazy that i couldn't find
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videos and pictures at each stage of the development that was like clear and actual pictures and videos
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of the i couldn't find it for the life of me i'm not saying it's not there but you don't think
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it's strange that a procedure that's so common like the information should be at the top of google but
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it's not and and my mind goes to why who protects google's images like who hides it in google a matrix
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the matrix the matrix if you know probably even on this show they'll be there now started doing an
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abortion since roe v wave was overturned they've now started doing an abortion warning just like they
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did with covid and vaccination you know if anyone said anything they they put a you know this is a
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link to the nhs so they're doing the same with abortion um just that that warning to say that
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it's just to try and get that there's only one kind of narrative and it's the nhs and also they
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don't really give you like they they need they kind of like make you rush into it as well they're
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kind of like okay so have you decided okay so you have this choice what is it going to be you know
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it's like okay like let me think about it you know and and they like when i was quite young when i had
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it done so i was a child really so how can a child decide on a child's life if that makes sense like
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it it kind of has to have some sort of age limit as well i think like i don't know if there's just
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to be an age limit on sex then at the same point in time like do you think the two should go hand
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in hand or yeah 100 yeah yeah i mean yeah i think we'd agree like 10 too young yeah like at some
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point there is a limit i mean i guess you can't stop them but your parents should be involved
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definitely i think parents have a big part to play in this because just going back to what
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you're saying um like if my daughter was to have a procedure again i have to keep using this
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in line i will definitely have a part to play in making sure that that procedure that she's having
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i'm happy with it because by law she's not deemed as i didn't tell my mum yeah neither did i yeah do
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you know what i mean but by law but no my mum already knows yeah um and that was part of my
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healing process because i just thought why should i have to hide that like that was a big part of me
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do you know what i mean and i at the point at that time i feel like i was so i felt like i was so alone
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i felt like i had to keep it a secret why do you know what i mean that was just it was it changed
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my life significantly and i feel like i should have had the support even if i was to have gone
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through with it in being at least you would know do you know what i mean i just shouldn't have had
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to walk walk alone do you know what i mean yeah would you um have an abortion now like if i was to
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have one that could be yeah sure oh that's not the question that's a good question yeah no i wouldn't
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obviously because of the experiences that i've had obviously i've taken precautions now i'm so
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like really um different about it but yeah no i wouldn't because how old are you 25 25 do you um
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if you could like never had another child would that make you think differently about the abortions
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i i could never think like that because it would do i would i'd be depressed and and if i was to
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think about the moments that i've experienced in during abortions for example like it's depressing
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like i would be depressed i would be like you know i'm unhappy i just wonder if as many women
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would abort their children if like they knew that they wouldn't have another like if that was their
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only child do you think like women would move the same way that actually crosses your mind as well
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when you are pregnant like you actually think oh what if you know but yeah i mean you can't change it
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you're right there's no point in like exactly yeah but i was just curious did you have children later
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i have five oh you have five kids oh that's so nice yeah i have my first daughter is actually
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my stepdaughter um so i'm married obviously as i stated in the beginning and then my husband and i
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