JustPearlyThings - Her Delusional Arguments Got Flipped Against Her

00:00:00.000 before you get to the situation where you're back at the house and the sexual coercion happens

00:00:04.880 when you guys are having a dinner or whatnot and a check comes and everything's unspoken and then 0.98

00:00:11.980 he goes to pay and your ass is quiet is he being financially coerced right then and there yes 0.95

00:00:19.020 that is financial coercion no it'll be financial coercion if he's saying i don't want to pay and 0.99

00:00:25.700 i'm forcing him to pay you guys are not understanding no that's what it starts with

00:00:30.240 it starts with the no and then you're still trying to make well well doesn't it kind of start with the

00:00:36.680 with the context of the situation because in the sexual coercion situation there's the context of

00:00:42.200 you two being alone being amorous before and then the situation you know everything before then is

00:00:48.520 unspoken and then it gets to the part where you know what you're not down with it same thing in a 0.99

00:00:53.600 restaurant you guys are eating you guys are having a good time then that motherfucking check 0.97

00:00:57.360 comes so explain explain the nuance we need to know the nuance yeah i mean then it goes back to 0.95

00:01:05.500 just personal responsibility like because if you're with if you're a guy and you think that a girl may

00:01:11.900 not be trustworthy or she has a history of accusing people or you know she just seems a little edgy like 0.84

00:01:19.360 you have to understand that like if you get involved with this girl you know there could be

00:01:24.300 repercussions as well and i think a lot of guys calculate that risk as well i actually think men

00:01:29.680 should not date and not nothing personal but i actually think men shouldn't date women that think 0.86

00:01:34.880 coercion is sexual assault because you don't know what she's going to can like say that you did yeah 1.00

00:01:39.240 like if you do not know what yeah you should not date women like that because that it's men have too 0.91

00:01:45.280 much to lose in this society yeah i mean the if they have any of the symptoms if she has like

00:01:51.980 pronouns in her bio like all right uh swipe left on that one you know this there's certain symptoms

00:01:59.140 of women you have to avoid not saying you just general men are so scary like why are you alone

00:02:04.040 with them yeah if you don't want to do it like why are you alone with them before you're married then

00:02:07.740 just don't be alone with them until you get married yeah which is true and that's why i'm saying it is

00:02:12.280 true but i think i can understand a little bit where you're coming from in the sense that you might

00:02:18.420 get a certain um let's say we know that something like this is more likely to happen to younger women 1.00

00:02:30.780 than older women we know uh let's say 0.97

00:02:37.580 women this is now a personal opinion 1.00

00:02:45.640 when you're bringing a child up it's a little girl 0.99

00:02:53.500 it might not be like this for every upbringing but

00:02:58.860 you you say to a little girl oh

00:03:01.520 darling do this for me be a good girl can you do this for me

00:03:05.020 can you do that for me um for me more than

00:03:08.580 the boys mum going to the boy can you do this for me can you do that for me

00:03:13.140 so

00:03:13.760 as a basis i feel like

00:03:16.880 women get asked can you do 0.98

00:03:19.820 can you take out the trash or can you do this can you do that

00:03:24.320 and we're yes yes i can do this i can do this really i heard i don't cook i don't clean

00:03:29.840 that's some women as well but yeah um even that female line was developed 1.00

00:03:35.200 that's a lot of women but let's say the the women were when they were little girls 1.00

00:03:40.860 they had their mom and dad going please can you do this please can you do that even if you don't want

00:03:45.280 to do it for me so when she grows up and when she's like 17 she might meet a guy

00:03:51.240 that says the same thing do this for me do that for me and i get it the girl should know better 0.98

00:03:56.420 but when she's had that all her life and then this feels kind of like oh it's not that big of a step

00:04:03.180 from what i've known and then it happens and then she wakes up the next day and thinks

00:04:08.920 all my life i've had this and then this has happened to me i thought it was okay

00:04:13.880 it's now not i feel really bad she shouldn't blame the guy but look at herself and then make 0.77

00:04:21.940 adjustments through that yeah so i'm just pulling up the definition of the word coerce

00:04:26.040 so coerce is to persuade an unwilling person to do something by using force or threats

00:04:33.080 so putting those two words together sexual coercion based upon your definition you are not sexually

00:04:40.640 coerced okay if it's by force then because that's what the unless google's wrong but it says persuade

00:04:47.280 an unwilling person to do something by using force or threats so do you think that's maybe you felt

00:04:52.740 regret after it or and that's why as i stated sexual coercion i'm not saying it's something that's

00:04:59.100 happened to me i'm talking about in general i thought you just said it happened to you i said

00:05:02.780 sexual assault has happened to me not coercion and so okay an essay well okay what i'm trying to say

00:05:11.060 is in general in in general if a woman has said no i think that i think anything after that you

00:05:20.080 should really be looking at the guy if if you have said no and the man is really just trying to force

00:05:25.800 it and really trying to make like i don't understand why nobody can see how that's wrong i don't and what

00:05:32.140 you just said is really interesting i liked what you said especially when we're growing up as women

00:05:36.140 um i think overall like what you were saying is that a woman grows up to be assertive like we have

00:05:42.320 to do this we have to say yes yes mom duh duh do you know what i'm saying whereas there's women that grow 1.00

00:05:47.360 up um who are able to i feel like women that grow up who are taught how to be more dominant and are able

00:05:53.680 to say no would be more better in them situations but a lot of women are vulnerable a lot of women 1.00

00:05:58.260 don't really know how to say no in them situations and a lot of guys take advantage of that

00:06:02.180 a lot of men can see that when a lot of men take advantage of weaker women and take them back to

00:06:08.940 their place why are those women in the in dangerous situations and as i said and as i said they shouldn't 1.00

00:06:15.560 be in them situations but they're in it now they're in it so once they've said no this is my issue it's

00:06:21.400 like nothing is ever our fault it's always the men's fault so you guys nothing it's always oh poor

00:06:27.920 me i was convinced to do this where it's like no you made that choice then don't be alone with men

00:06:34.720 if you you don't have any children do you no kids no so when you eventually make good choices

00:06:40.720 so when you eventually have a female daughter and your female daughter god forbid touch wood but

00:06:48.680 if your female daughter comes up to you and says um crying in your arms and says that she ended up

00:06:53.940 sleeping with some guy she said no to him multiple times she said no to him on multiple occasions and 0.56

00:06:58.780 then she decided to one and then one day she went to a party and then they went they were in a room

00:07:03.500 together and he ended up obviously you don't believe in coercion so he ended up um convincing her

00:07:09.540 not convincing her but just kept on did she did she open her legs willingly so even if your daughter

00:07:14.800 came up to you crying i'm asking okay the crying doesn't matter i'm asking the facts of the case

00:07:19.380 so because you're trying to use an emotionally a minute thing right now did she open her legs 0.99

00:07:23.900 willingly did he force her or did she open them she would have done it yeah oh okay well then i would

00:07:29.900 say well take that out wait it's just fair enough yeah it's and that's that's like a little that's

00:07:36.100 like a little bit of uh emotionally manipulative statement to like a theoretical thing to make

00:07:40.740 to just try to prove your point you know because personal responsibility is personal responsibility

00:07:46.940 okay no matter what if somebody if you're in a situation where you're telling the person no and

00:07:52.300 they're still pushing then you have to leave the situation because now that person has showed you

00:07:57.260 that they are not socially there like they don't get it so you got to leave because that person has

00:08:04.500 showed you they're now straying from the social norms and this is not a normal person and you got to

00:08:09.980 get away from normal people because that's not okay i mean you spoke about maturity and like i think

00:08:14.580 both of you um about like growing up and stuff and upbringing i'm i'm very into the upbringing

00:08:19.720 people in general um because it's kind of what makes you a person and the person that you are right

00:08:24.800 now um so okay let's say you said women um i don't want to quote exactly but women who grew up to be

00:08:34.060 more dominant uh have it easier to find it easy to say no right this is just from my brain not okay

00:08:40.560 so that's from so from your opinion yeah yeah so that's subjective okay so they find it easy to say

00:08:46.400 no but then okay if you're from a household where you grew up to be um extremely timid as a person

00:08:54.620 and you're in this situation you found yourself in this situation wouldn't you know or wouldn't you be

00:09:01.620 scared in the beginning to start with that hold on if i go home with this guy something like this

00:09:08.720 could have happened yeah and like right yeah like i've said already um if you're in them kind of

00:09:17.040 situations you shouldn't put yourself in them kind of situations if you think the guy's a creep do not

00:09:21.500 go home with the guy if you think the guy's weird do not go home with the guy if you don't want to sleep

00:09:25.160 with the guy but you feel like the guy would want to sleep with you don't go home with him i'm agreeing

00:09:29.680 with absolutely everything that you guys are saying but what i'm trying to say is once it's

00:09:34.820 got to that point where a woman has said no i do not want to sleep with you and the guy is still

00:09:41.800 trying to force it despite everything that's happened the woman still said no and the guy's a 0.99

00:09:47.020 fucking does she say does she say no or does she say ha ha ha no no no stop because you know they're 1.00

00:09:54.180 different i'm i'm just because you know you know you hear girls like that's how they flirt half the 0.99

00:09:59.600 time stop it you've never heard that no i know what you're saying but i just i just don't know but

00:10:05.120 just just from what i'm saying there's women that will literally say no or this is coming from 1.00

00:10:11.020 experiences where i've spoken to people there's women where they will literally say no and a guy

00:10:15.440 will still carry on and i just really wish and your mindsets if if this is the mindset you guys want to

00:10:20.160 have it's literally fair enough but i just really wish that people could just i don't know i feel

00:10:25.700 like there'll be a man that is watching this right now he's nodding his head thinking yeah thinking it's

00:10:30.560 right but i feel like no we should be saying that once a woman has said no don't carry on no no i get

00:10:36.240 what you're saying yeah we're not saying it's okay what do you have to say for a woman who says no 0.87

00:10:41.420 to a guy that's trying to make certain sexual advances but then stays in the same situation with

00:10:46.740 homeboy so she literally has said no she's made it clear that she's uncomfortable the guy's made it

00:10:52.600 clear that he's been persistent but she still continues to be around said guy she could say

00:10:58.320 no you're making me feel uncomfortable i'm going to remove myself from the situation yeah and that's

00:11:04.240 true and that's the message that i feel like podcast especially because you're such like a powerful

00:11:09.360 person well and i feel like that's the message you should be spreading then yeah in these kind of

00:11:13.840 situations you should be removing yourself away from it you should be it shouldn't be something

00:11:18.100 where we blame

00:11:18.780 you should be asking for somethingulle says so yeah

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JustPearlyThings - June 19, 2023

Her Delusional Arguments Got Flipped Against Her

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