JustPearlyThings - March 26, 2023


Her feelings got hurt after she learnt this


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In this episode, we talk about why men tend to like younger women and why women like older men. We also talk about how dating apps are changing the dating game and why you should be in touch with someone younger than you.

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00:00:00.000 You were saying people are swiping 18-year-old girls.
00:00:04.580 Yeah, I mean, I think it's typical.
00:00:05.940 I mean, why are models typically young?
00:00:08.220 Like, men tend to like younger women.
00:00:09.960 Women tend to like older men.
00:00:11.900 Women are attracted to a guy that can protect and provide. 0.99
00:00:14.560 A man hits his financial stride in his, like, 40s or 50s.
00:00:17.840 Men tend to be attracted to fertility in youth.
00:00:21.160 I don't think most guys, like, want to date an 18-year-old super.
00:00:23.980 Like, I don't talk to a lot of guys in real life that say, like,
00:00:26.680 their number one option is 18.
00:00:28.480 Like, it seems to be more like 22 to 28 seems to be what guys I talk to
00:00:34.740 typically say.
00:00:35.880 But, yeah, I mean, typically men go for fertility in youth.
00:00:40.200 That's why they call it forever 21, not forever 50.
00:00:42.740 Shut up, Rolo.
00:00:43.440 But I think as society becomes more perpetuated on how people look,
00:00:49.800 younger girls aren't going for us old guys because I know in myself,
00:00:53.160 like, I wouldn't go for someone super old because I couldn't take
00:00:55.000 your pictures with them.
00:00:55.760 Like, I couldn't be as proud of them.
00:00:58.480 And I think society is becoming feminized in that aspect.
00:01:02.580 Yeah, I mean, that's what, it's funny.
00:01:04.340 I was really surprised by this.
00:01:06.080 I swear to God.
00:01:06.640 When I saw this data, I was shocked.
00:01:09.900 I couldn't believe it because I was like, I don't know how many girls
00:01:12.760 that want to date 50-year-olds, but that's what they're swiping on.
00:01:15.680 But if it's on Tinder, then we have to consider that.
00:01:18.080 So who do you get it for just to be a sugar baby?
00:01:20.520 It's either Match or Plenty of Fish.
00:01:22.720 But either way...
00:01:23.280 If it's Match.com, that's wild.
00:01:24.780 And even...
00:01:25.620 Because who under...
00:01:26.460 Plenty of Fish, Tinder...
00:01:27.540 How many people use that?
00:01:28.540 How many people use that?
00:01:28.640 What is the population pool?
00:01:30.940 Thank you.
00:01:31.480 So you've got a bare foot here who's swiping on 18-year-olds. 0.87
00:01:33.620 That's crazy.
00:01:34.280 Let's see.
00:01:34.880 It's just like a mature work on that.
00:01:36.840 But it's because of the way people are using dating apps.
00:01:39.380 People don't actually use dating apps to get married.
00:01:41.560 No, okay.
00:01:42.260 So that's what you would think, right?
00:01:44.100 But it's actually the number one way people meet today.
00:01:47.340 That's right.
00:01:48.080 Oh, I didn't say that.
00:01:49.200 That's the number one.
00:01:50.320 So...
00:01:50.440 Ladies and gentlemen, that's why we have issues. 0.96
00:01:53.860 No, you're right.
00:01:55.800 You're right.
00:01:56.240 But I'm saying like, if that's the number one way long-term relationships are forming nowadays,
00:02:00.860 and that's what men and women are swiping on, that says something. 0.65
00:02:04.800 And some apps are a little different, but they're only different by like a couple years.
00:02:10.140 It's really not that different.
00:02:11.960 Is it like dating apps are kind of like corn?
00:02:14.540 They over-exaggerate the reality of things.
00:02:17.440 When you're going on dating apps, you can actually be in touch with an 18-year-old,
00:02:23.280 where in reality, if you're a 50-year-old man hanging around an 18-year-old, you're a weirdo.
00:02:27.800 So that's not okay.
00:02:28.880 If you're hot, you're hot.
00:02:30.520 Like hot girls get swipes. 1.00
00:02:32.260 At what age, it doesn't matter.
00:02:35.020 But the point is, in general, men tend to like younger women.
00:02:38.300 And in general, women tend to like older men.
00:02:40.820 But the exaggeration of the 18 is just showing it, that it's not very good.
00:02:46.380 And that's what people are seeing.
00:02:47.740 And they're looking at all of it.
00:02:48.520 What do you mean it's not very good?
00:02:49.100 It's not a very good example to say.
00:02:51.380 It's not actually something great to say.
00:02:52.820 It's not valid.
00:02:53.020 Why is it not valid?
00:02:54.440 Because I think that these stats are things that they're part of what I would say a certain fantasy
00:03:02.300 and idealization of what people think dating is.
00:03:05.680 And then they almost become a reality.
00:03:08.060 And it stops it.
00:03:08.780 But it is what it is.
00:03:10.280 It isn't.
00:03:10.640 No, I'm saying you're painting.
00:03:13.300 If we ask the married people, how did you meet your spouse?
00:03:16.420 And they say dating apps.
00:03:17.760 And then we go to the dating apps and say, okay, what ages are people swiping on?
00:03:22.080 I have to agree with you.
00:03:22.900 How is that delivering reality?
00:03:24.780 No, what that is doing is just showing how twisted it is.
00:03:27.980 So, basically, there's a lot of men that are going looking for young girls online.
00:03:31.740 18.
00:03:32.560 Not even 22 or 23.
00:03:34.460 18, blood.
00:03:35.760 But I think we're going to try.
00:03:36.640 Why is that?
00:03:39.000 Guys just swipe.
00:03:39.600 But Denelva, why does that matter?
00:03:41.240 No, but hold on.
00:03:41.720 It does matter.
00:03:42.840 It does matter.
00:03:43.640 It does matter because it's the same thing that keeps saying.
00:03:45.920 Like, is this fetishization?
00:03:48.480 Guys don't really.
00:03:50.240 Guys don't.
00:03:50.680 If you've taken anything from this conversation, guys don't really care about age.
00:03:55.080 Like, the number.
00:03:56.020 It's just, are you hot or are you not?
00:03:57.480 But young girls tend to be better looking. 0.98
00:04:00.320 When they're younger, yeah.
00:04:01.220 Why, go ahead.
00:04:01.900 Like, I think what you're trying to emphasize is that, like, for women, there's a lot more
00:04:07.100 of an idolization for youth.
00:04:08.420 Like, when it's with men, it's not as attached.
00:04:10.680 Like, as women get older, a lot of people think, oh, they're not as smart. 1.00
00:04:14.960 They're not as, their advice isn't as helpful.
00:04:17.200 But when men get older, they're more wise.
00:04:19.980 They're more helpful.
00:04:21.360 Like, you always hear the wise man story.
00:04:23.620 You don't hear the wise woman story, do you?
00:04:25.460 Yeah.
00:04:25.700 Okay.
00:04:26.500 So, basically, they don't like wrinkles.
00:04:29.180 Yeah.
00:04:29.440 In a way, because it displays that you're not as fertile.
00:04:32.880 And I think that's what Paul would say.
00:04:34.560 But actually, the average woman knows that herself. 0.97
00:04:36.620 Because, I mean, it's just clear that you guys obviously put so much more attention,
00:04:41.240 money into your appearance.
00:04:42.960 We spend $300,000 more in a lifetime on beauty products.
00:04:46.900 And, I mean, like, why do we get lip filler?
00:04:50.000 Why do we get Botox?
00:04:50.920 Why do we get all of this stuff to look younger?
00:04:53.720 Like, we know it on some level.
00:04:54.880 But beautiful women get better men that pay for a nicer lifestyle. 1.00
00:04:57.980 So, that's the sad truth.
00:04:59.060 Yeah.
00:04:59.300 Also, are these guys even looking at their age?
00:05:02.140 Because they could just be seeing young, good-looking, swipe right?
00:05:05.280 Do you know what I wanted to say?
00:05:06.400 Like, dudes are just here.
00:05:07.300 You could just swipe through.
00:05:08.720 No, that's what I'm saying.
00:05:10.180 I don't think they care.
00:05:11.860 I think they're, like, hot or not hot.
00:05:13.100 Yeah, hot or not.
00:05:13.860 They aren't looking at age prices.
00:05:14.880 You're more likely to be hot if you're younger.
00:05:17.220 That's what we're saying.
00:05:18.100 Like, there's a correlation between the two.
00:05:19.560 I mean, we all know those people that peaked in high school.
00:05:22.460 And, like, you know now they look like a mini whale or a legal whale.
00:05:28.300 But I just want to be clear.
00:05:29.920 So, like, this, you keep on saying the younger a girl is, the hotter she is.
00:05:34.960 So, it's like, I genuinely don't think in hotness there's a massive, like, I actually think girls in their 20s, like, mid, like, just early 20s, mid-20s, late 20s, they look better than 18-year-olds.
00:05:46.520 They know.
00:05:47.020 They have money.
00:05:47.660 They know how to do their makeup.
00:05:48.560 They know how to do, like, this idea that 18-year-olds, yeah, 18-year-olds look better than any girl in it.
00:05:55.220 I think that's the exception of the rule.
00:05:56.600 Yeah, but the date in that profile picture would just be, like, a boo-hoo dress or something.
00:05:59.700 So, yeah.
00:06:01.540 And, honestly, if you date an 18-year-old that doesn't look great, you can just influence her to dress how you think is better?
00:06:06.680 I mean, they say it's, like, 18 to 28 is, like, when a woman's sexual peak is.
00:06:12.920 Like, these are her best years.
00:06:14.220 And it's kind of, it seems to be kind of similar with the answers that the guys gave for the girls that they love.
00:06:21.120 I mean, according to this date, like, it depends who you ask.
00:06:27.020 But this said 50 was the number one age swiped right on.
00:06:31.960 Anecdotally, I would guess mid-30s, early 40s, I would say.
00:06:36.940 Because then, I mean, because you have all the girls that are younger than you.
00:06:41.460 It's, like, a bigger pool, I'd imagine.
00:06:43.520 But I feel like the data is skewed, though, in the sense that from personal experience,
00:06:51.500 the younger you go, the more options you have.
00:06:54.680 As in, people actually using these data naps.
00:06:57.920 So, there's probably, like, a smaller pool of, like, people probably above 25, 30,
00:07:03.140 who are looking for certain serious, and there's a lot more, like, you know,
00:07:05.700 you've got your computer and people in universities.
00:07:08.400 So, there's, like, if there's going to be, like, I don't know, 40% of the total 100 in university,
00:07:14.540 then chances are the 18-year-old, kind of, that makes more sense.
00:07:16.720 Yeah, you are right, yeah.
00:07:17.620 I'm saying, in terms of people going for that, because I used, I think, Hinge, like, a couple months ago,
00:07:23.800 and I set my preference.
00:07:27.140 I think my lower end was, like, 23, and you run out of options.
00:07:31.620 But then, when you drop it down to 22, all of a sudden, it's just flooded, do you know what I mean?
00:07:35.020 So, I think there's also some sort of skewing in terms of that statistics,
00:07:38.720 because all the men here, for me, is just generally, like, 20.
00:07:41.960 At the age that I'm at, I know that nearly every man that I know is going to be 22, 23,
00:07:47.620 22 is a bit too young, but, like, 23 is, like, the ideal age.
00:07:51.240 And then, the older you get, I guess, it just kind of stays around there and then goes up a bit.
00:07:57.300 Completely, like, I don't know, like, more people that are young use dating apps.
00:08:00.780 Like, more 18 to 21-year-olds use dating apps more than, you would say, like, a 28 to 32-year-old,
00:08:05.700 because they're looking for, like, people roughly that age.
00:08:09.300 And, like, I don't know, people that are younger use the internet more often and stuff.
00:08:12.360 Like, you don't get, like, many 40-year-olds, like, on dating apps, I don't think, personally,
00:08:15.760 just from my personal experience.
00:08:16.920 Yeah, so how valid is the data, basically?
00:08:18.720 Exactly.
00:08:19.320 How accurate is it?
00:08:20.240 It doesn't show, like, a complete, like, representation of all the different ages.
00:08:24.260 I just think the point is that men tend to like younger women and women tend to like older men.
00:08:28.680 Even if the data is a bit off by, like, five years, like, let's give it five, ten years,
00:08:33.320 it's still, it's still the general conclusion is still going to be the same when it's 18 and 50.
00:08:38.360 I'm not going to lie.
00:08:39.560 I kind of, let me tell you a truth that I must admit I agree with you now, Pearl.
00:08:44.640 I always said that I want my man to be older than me, even if it's by one year,
00:08:50.260 because that one year alone will be able to give this nice room where I can give him another sort of respect above me,
00:08:57.220 because submission for me is difficult.
00:09:00.100 So I need to find different ways to add to respect.
00:09:05.080 So if he's older than me, that helps.
00:09:07.140 If he earns more than me, that helps.
00:09:09.300 It's not because I want his money, but because it will allow me to actually give him the respect that he is looking for as a man,
00:09:15.200 naturally, without having to, like, fake it.
00:09:18.040 Women tend to, like, a guy is five to seven years older than them. 1.00
00:09:23.460 And then there's another study, which was closer to 22, where they asked men, like,
00:09:27.600 when they found women the most attractive between the ages of, like, 18 and, like, 70,
00:09:31.560 and they all said 22.
00:09:33.720 So it's, you know, different studies will give it, but it's generally for women between 18 and 25, roughly.
00:09:42.220 Good to be an exception to the rule.
00:09:44.000 Yo, can I ask a question?
00:09:45.880 Like, um, actually, it's more directed to my man at the back.
00:09:49.240 I'm sorry, I forgot your name.
00:09:50.020 Oh, just Josh, yeah.
00:09:51.080 Josh, yeah.
00:09:52.220 Just on this whole, the baggage thing, like, you were like, oh, when they're older, there's baggage,
00:09:57.020 you don't want to deal with that.
00:09:58.320 And it's kind of like, and you were like, she's got issues, she's got life experiences and whatnot.
00:10:02.380 And it's just from the perspective of, like, let's accept issues or quake baggage.
00:10:08.260 Like, most of people's issues come from, like, in their younger years,
00:10:11.680 like, their relationship with their parents, like, abuse that happens with, like, extreme cases,
00:10:17.280 abuse when they're, like, younger children.
00:10:19.320 Like, just so you can get, I suppose my point is, you're here, you look for a younger girl 1.00
00:10:24.900 because she's, I suppose, more of a clean slate.
00:10:28.000 But what happens when you get, like, a younger girl and she's, like, gone through that sort of stuff
00:10:32.300 or, like, has mental health problems or, do you get what I mean?
00:10:34.660 No, definitely, definitely.
00:10:35.520 And what I would say to that is to think of it like this.
00:10:39.160 Let's say even if the case that they do experience that at a younger age,
00:10:42.440 the more time I give them, they're going to still be in the dating pool. 0.92
00:10:47.200 They're still going to have other experiences added on top of that.
00:10:50.580 So I think of more, I think it more of, like, let me catch it at the shortest point.
00:10:55.840 You know what I mean?
00:10:56.660 Because, sure, you could go through all those different traumas, whatever, whatever.
00:11:00.060 But then I could be that cutting point for you.
00:11:02.820 You know what I mean?
00:11:03.500 Instead of you going into five other different relationships,
00:11:06.240 30 other different bodies.
00:11:07.320 Okay, maybe that's extreme.
00:11:08.080 But it's, like, the more time I give you, the more that's going to be added on to that.
00:11:13.240 So it's, like, let me just cut it while it's short.
00:11:15.780 You know, you feel me?
00:11:16.660 Yeah.
00:11:17.080 Isn't that the same for men then as well?
00:11:19.920 Because men will get more baggage the longer they live. 1.00
00:11:23.160 I don't really think you, like, originally, I don't think you guys really care about that
00:11:27.680 in the sense, like, because I think we have two, we have different type of baggage.
00:11:31.800 Women love baggage, actually. 1.00
00:11:33.360 I don't want a man with kids. 1.00
00:11:34.800 That's a problem for me.
00:11:35.540 That's what you would think, but that's not true according to the data.
00:11:39.500 You know, felons, violent felons reproduce more than non-violent felons.
00:11:44.800 Can I just ask a question here?
00:11:47.220 Correct me.
00:11:47.780 I feel like when the guys are talking about baggage and when the women are talking about baggage, 0.98
00:11:52.160 I feel like the word, the definition of that word is slightly different.
00:11:56.160 We're two different things.
00:11:58.640 Yeah, when you're saying baggage, I feel like I understand you.
00:12:00.580 But when you're saying baggage, I feel like you're talking about something else.
00:12:03.780 I'm saying kids, I'm saying a lot of past relationships, I'm saying trauma that I could
00:12:07.840 step on accidentally, things like that.
00:12:10.720 Is that the same for the rest of you?
00:12:12.500 I consider that kind of baggage, maybe.
00:12:14.660 I don't think, I don't personally think that men with kids is baggage, but I think women
00:12:20.560 with kids are baggage for men because you guys got to provide for the kid, the path to 0.53
00:12:26.000 the kid and everything.
00:12:26.480 I just don't think if a man's in a certain position that you want him to be, and if he's
00:12:30.140 got a kid, then I don't see that as baggage.
00:12:32.300 But you're going to have to be an opposite.
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