JustPearlyThings - February 08, 2023


Hypergamy Does Not Allow Women TO DO THIS...


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In this episode, we talk about the dating market and how it has changed over the years. We talk about what we would like to see change in the dating world and why women should not have to be faithful to a partner. We also talk about how women should be taught to date up and men should date down.

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00:00:00.000 So, question, do you guys think that women date up or down?
00:00:04.560 Up.
00:00:04.960 Up.
00:00:05.720 I think depending on age.
00:00:08.040 Okay.
00:00:08.880 So then, you say up?
00:00:10.960 I say up.
00:00:11.600 What did you guys say up?
00:00:12.540 Up, yeah.
00:00:14.080 So, how can we say women are the prize if they date up and men date down?
00:00:18.340 That's a good question.
00:00:19.440 That's a great question.
00:00:20.480 Do you know what?
00:00:21.100 Do you know what?
00:00:21.420 That's an amazing question.
00:00:22.460 I feel like the generation we're in now, I feel like everybody just has to date up because...
00:00:28.960 No, no.
00:00:29.240 Everybody can't.
00:00:30.460 So, this is...
00:00:31.580 No, no, no.
00:00:32.040 Everybody can't date up.
00:00:33.420 Someone's reaching...
00:00:34.620 Every relationship, someone likes the other more.
00:00:36.800 Exactly.
00:00:37.320 Someone's reaching, someone's settling.
00:00:38.740 Exactly.
00:00:39.300 Okay, go ahead.
00:00:39.840 Personally, I genuinely feel like where we are in this life here, everything is so difficult.
00:00:45.900 Yeah.
00:00:46.200 Everything is getting worse out and worse out.
00:00:48.680 It's not.
00:00:49.380 Check your friend zone.
00:00:51.700 Wow.
00:00:52.220 That was a good one.
00:00:53.200 It's not.
00:00:53.660 Yeah.
00:00:54.460 But I feel like a lot of my guy friends are compatible as friends and I don't want to lose that.
00:00:58.920 No, no, no.
00:00:59.460 No, you're not attracted to them like that.
00:01:01.580 No, no.
00:01:01.920 You like the attention.
00:01:03.180 No, no.
00:01:03.340 You like the attention.
00:01:03.920 No, I think I'm definitely attracted to some of my guy friends.
00:01:05.940 I just wouldn't want to go there.
00:01:07.480 Would they want to go there with you?
00:01:08.840 Possibly.
00:01:09.220 100%.
00:01:09.660 Possibly.
00:01:11.040 However, I just know that the boundaries and I'd rather, I treasure the friendship.
00:01:14.200 I'm not trying to do that.
00:01:15.060 Yeah.
00:01:15.320 Because more time if relationship ends up bad, I've lost you as a friend.
00:01:18.400 Yeah.
00:01:18.680 And as that, if I value the friendship, I feel like.
00:01:21.080 But it can end up good.
00:01:22.440 What?
00:01:22.720 The relationship?
00:01:23.340 Happily ever often.
00:01:24.240 That's the risk, isn't it?
00:01:25.300 Sounds quite pessimistic.
00:01:26.820 Do you really see yourself having a lot of male friends once you get married?
00:01:29.840 Is that really healthy?
00:01:30.380 Oh, no, no, no.
00:01:30.800 Yeah, that's not healthy.
00:01:31.480 That's not healthy.
00:01:32.060 That's not healthy.
00:01:32.440 It might end anyway.
00:01:33.320 So what's the point of having them around?
00:01:35.660 No, but I just feel like in this day and age, I feel like a lot of people are mad.
00:01:41.700 So what do you see as the problems in the dating market?
00:01:44.960 The problems in the dating market, I feel like everything has become so, what can I get?
00:01:49.880 What can I get materialistic?
00:01:51.300 And I feel like people aren't looking at character anymore.
00:01:53.540 Do you think that's the men or the women?
00:01:55.080 I think it's both.
00:01:56.220 So you think it's the men?
00:01:57.200 But I feel like it's also the women. 0.88
00:01:58.440 I feel like women have become this, which means that the men don't even care anymore. 1.00
00:02:02.640 It's like you want me for maybe materialistic things, quite a few women. 1.00
00:02:07.340 So it's kind of like, if that's all you look at me for, then all right, cool.
00:02:10.280 I'll take you, your sister, your auntie.
00:02:12.140 And then-
00:02:12.900 Could you explain that more?
00:02:14.000 What do you mean by that?
00:02:14.880 What I mean by that is there's a lot of guys who, let's say faithfulness was something
00:02:18.640 that, let's say 10 years ago was key.
00:02:21.080 Right now in this generation, it's like nobody cares or quite a few people don't care if the
00:02:25.200 guy's faithful or not, as long as he's looking after them.
00:02:27.400 So you've got a lot of men who maybe they were faithful growing up.
00:02:29.980 Now it's like, I don't even need to be faithful because I can get the 10.
00:02:32.480 Is that the fault of the men or the women though?
00:02:34.700 That's what I'm saying.
00:02:35.040 It's the fault of the women. 1.00
00:02:35.820 Yeah, yeah.
00:02:36.300 I agree with you.
00:02:37.160 Oh yeah, sorry.
00:02:37.660 I genuinely believe it's the fault of the women. 1.00
00:02:39.440 It's like if you hand them a silver platter, why would they not take it?
00:02:42.040 Why would they not take it?
00:02:42.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:02:42.980 And why do I need to be faithful, spiritual, this, this, and that, if you're not even requiring
00:02:48.280 it?
00:02:48.460 So why did you say women are the prize then?
00:02:50.740 Because-
00:02:50.900 Okay, so I feel like when you're growing up, like I said, from a young age, you're pretty,
00:02:54.400 you're this, you're that.
00:02:55.000 I think when you get to a certain age, you need to understand, you need to understand
00:02:58.280 the flower of your youth.
00:02:59.680 When it's finished, darling, understand it's finished.
00:03:02.180 However, I feel like naturally you're taught to date up because I just feel like he just
00:03:08.460 needs to be the head of the household, if that makes sense.
00:03:10.440 So the head would mean he's up.
00:03:12.720 Yeah.
00:03:12.900 So then he would be the prize.
00:03:14.220 Yeah.
00:03:14.600 But that's what I'm saying.
00:03:15.220 My answer was when you get to a certain age, I feel like it flips.
00:03:17.860 What age roughly?
00:03:19.340 Me, okay, I think, let's say 25 and up.
00:03:22.780 25 and up.
00:03:23.460 25 and up.
00:03:24.460 I think after high school, I'll be honest.
00:03:26.360 No, I agree with you.
00:03:27.460 What?
00:03:27.800 What do you think?
00:03:28.720 I think men are always the prize because the women, the women that men want, like 50% 1.00
00:03:34.620 of women that hit 30 are single and childless.
00:03:37.720 So the most-
00:03:38.480 But do you think men understand they're the prize from young? 0.96
00:03:40.840 I think the small percentage of men do when they have, when they have at their doorstep.
00:03:45.440 Like, from the time they're kid, you know, because it's only a very small percentage
00:03:51.620 of men that get that.
00:03:52.840 And then, you know, the women, like the women that won't settle. 0.99
00:03:59.020 And I think they're just going to die alone.
00:04:00.760 Yeah, sad.
00:04:02.040 No, seriously, because, yeah, and they won't have kids and fulfill their biological imperative. 0.95
00:04:07.380 So you have to compromise, right?
00:04:09.000 Yeah.
00:04:09.200 I mean-
00:04:10.080 Some ain't willing to, though.
00:04:11.080 That's the thing.
00:04:11.560 But this is the thing, like, we compromise where it always benefits us and never benefits
00:04:15.120 the men.
00:04:15.740 Because when we compromise, it's like at 30.
00:04:18.340 Literally.
00:04:18.900 And that's not what men want.
00:04:20.640 It's a question, clearly, yeah.
00:04:21.840 When you talked about the dating market, do all the women on the panel believe that women 0.99
00:04:25.940 are the problem with the dating market?
00:04:28.120 No.
00:04:28.260 I don't think you can blame ones.
00:04:29.340 They contribute.
00:04:29.820 They contribute, 100%.
00:04:30.840 They contribute because there's one-
00:04:32.780 Can I just say this?
00:04:33.560 Yeah, correct.
00:04:33.960 There's more women on the market, in the dating market. 1.00
00:04:37.520 And how I would put it is everyone, so a lot of women say they're the prize, but they 1.00
00:04:42.000 don't act like a prize.
00:04:43.660 So they're readily available.
00:04:45.700 If you're available to 25 men, how are you a prize?
00:04:48.640 You're readily available.
00:04:50.260 I put it like this.
00:04:51.220 If you have a Rolex, they don't advertise Rolex, you know the value of it.
00:04:55.640 If you see a Ferrari, they don't advertise that, you know the value of it.
00:04:59.340 If you're on socials, dating apps, advertising yourself with no clothes, you know, trying
00:05:05.400 to get male attention, are you really a prize? 0.87
00:05:08.240 But what that sounds like to me is a cognitive dissonance.
00:05:10.560 Huh?
00:05:10.920 That sounds like a cognitive dissonance to me.
00:05:12.900 So like, you think of one thing, but you're not the other.
00:05:15.000 So that still goes back to the fact that women are potentially the problem in the dating 1.00
00:05:19.160 market because of this delusion that they carry.
00:05:21.620 I'm the prize.
00:05:22.760 Yeah, I deserve this and I deserve that.
00:05:24.220 Yet, really, I'm not actually the prize.
00:05:25.620 So that doesn't make you the problem.
00:05:26.420 Like, how can you be a prize at all if you're a virgin, if you're not a virgin?
00:05:29.340 No, I'm saying like back in the 1950s, like you were a hoe if you slept with like two 1.00
00:05:39.560 people.
00:05:40.120 I think men nowadays would pray for two.
00:05:43.640 And so it's like, how are you a prize if you're not a virgin?
00:05:48.260 Well, first of all, sorry, the social parameters have changed.
00:05:52.740 We know this and we're acknowledging that's the case here.
00:05:55.620 But men haven't changed just because the social parameters haven't changed.
00:05:58.540 But the thing is, the social parameters have changed to appease women. 1.00
00:06:02.200 And so, but men have remained the same.
00:06:04.540 They want the same things.
00:06:06.120 Women have changed. 1.00
00:06:07.140 No, but as I said, the social parameters have changed.
00:06:10.020 So the social parameters for men have changed and the social parameters for women have changed.
00:06:14.780 What do you mean?
00:06:15.260 What do you define social parameters?
00:06:16.740 So for example, materialistically, men are supposed to still provide, be able to provide at a higher
00:06:24.560 rate and at a faster rate from a younger age.
00:06:28.000 This is a social parameter change.
00:06:29.860 It's not realistic.
00:06:31.040 It is set out by women. 0.99
00:06:32.400 I agree.
00:06:32.820 But with the women, with the ladies now, a lot of us, we have a materialistic approach
00:06:38.600 to how we view men.
00:06:41.000 And when they can't provide that, we get upset.
00:06:43.500 We don't actually look at like what you said, the characteristics, the moralistic values.
00:06:48.680 We don't look at, actually, when I look at this man, do I see family?
00:06:52.780 Because a lot of people, they want financial benefits, but they don't actually want family.
00:06:59.900 But does that make women the problem, then? 0.81
00:07:02.260 Yeah, because men are the same.
00:07:04.120 Like, if anything, more is expected of men is less is given to them.
00:07:07.900 Go ahead.
00:07:09.580 No, go ahead.
00:07:10.200 Go ahead.
00:07:10.340 I think that we're getting married a lot later in life, and that's, you know, part of it.
00:07:17.060 So, like, for example, maybe 50 years ago, getting married at age 16 to 18 might not have
00:07:23.600 been a big deal.
00:07:24.360 Whereas now, when a young woman wants to get married at 21, it's like, are you ready for 1.00
00:07:31.140 this?
00:07:31.600 You know, have you finished uni?
00:07:33.000 Yeah.
00:07:33.340 Have you traveled?
00:07:34.540 There's so much that women are doing that they weren't doing 50 years ago that they're 1.00
00:07:39.160 doing now, and it's affecting the age that people get married.
00:07:42.900 So, that's going to make women the problem. 1.00
00:07:44.840 Oh, I never said women are not the problem. 1.00
00:07:47.000 But then, did you not say that they were the prize?
00:07:50.580 I said, wear the prize when we're younger.
00:07:52.960 Oh, yeah.
00:07:53.440 Yeah, before 40.
00:07:55.020 And I'm curious.
00:07:55.820 I haven't heard much from you.
00:07:56.820 What do you think?
00:07:57.380 Because I don't agree.
00:07:58.840 Okay.
00:07:59.120 I feel like men are the problem. 1.00
00:08:01.020 Okay.
00:08:01.220 Oh, great.
00:08:01.820 Tell me why.
00:08:02.500 Tell me why.
00:08:03.260 Because I'm young, isn't it?
00:08:05.500 So, I'm just thinking when I was younger, women were always the one more involved in the
00:08:12.460 relationships.
00:08:13.660 Men were always the one cheating, treating the women wrong.
00:08:17.680 So, now I'm 21.
00:08:19.140 All of us are tired at the age of 21.
00:08:21.920 Why did you pick them?
00:08:25.800 If women hate being cheated on, why'd you pick the ones that cheat? 1.00
00:08:29.160 Girls, you know early on that they're going to cheat on you. 1.00
00:08:31.300 You know damn well.
00:08:32.100 I don't know if I'm going to cheat.
00:08:32.940 You know damn well that that guy is capable of cheating.
00:08:38.640 So, how is that on him when you picked him?
00:08:40.580 Do you know what?
00:08:41.820 After I finished with the guys that cheat, I was now like, let me go to a nice guy.
00:08:45.820 But now you're a leftover for him.
00:08:48.300 Oh.
00:08:49.000 But I was only like 18.
00:08:50.440 So, I'm just saying that's how men view it.
00:08:53.460 18?
00:08:54.240 Yeah.
00:08:54.600 I was like 18 at the time.
00:08:55.720 I don't know.
00:08:56.420 I'm not going to ask like what.
00:08:58.240 I'm just saying this is common.
00:09:00.380 So, you're young.
00:09:01.260 But I'm saying this is common where girls will go through the bad boys and the cheaters 0.50
00:09:04.140 until they're 27, 28 and then come to the nice guys who they've been rejecting the last
00:09:08.560 decade and saying, take me.
00:09:11.280 Oh, I'm ready for you.
00:09:12.380 And they're like, well, now you're Chad's leftovers.
00:09:16.640 I hate that.
00:09:17.760 But it's like, how is that on them when we pick them?
00:09:20.600 Because one out of three men are either virgins or haven't had sex in the last year.
00:09:23.680 So, there's a lot of men that won't cheat on you. 0.95
00:09:25.960 You just don't want them.
00:09:26.800 Look in your friend zone or go to, you guys don't have, do you guys have Taco Bell here?
00:09:37.360 You do.
00:09:38.280 Go to Taco Bell.
00:09:39.660 Ask the guy out behind the counter.
00:09:41.140 I bet you, he won't cheat on you.
00:09:43.200 Come on.
00:09:43.720 Don't do that.
00:09:44.340 Go, ask him out.
00:09:46.060 Don't do that.
00:09:47.620 Wait, can I ask a question?
00:09:48.780 What?
00:09:49.160 You know how we're talking about the whole team?
00:09:50.580 Don't we feel like back in the day, there was no social media.
00:09:53.480 They were writing letters.
00:09:55.020 Because everyone's covered up from head to toe.
00:09:56.980 I feel like now there's more temptation even for the guys.
00:10:00.400 Because women got worse. 1.00
00:10:03.300 Because men will do anything to get laid. 1.00
00:10:06.060 Literally anything.
00:10:07.380 So, if we required marriage to get laid, we would all be married.
00:10:12.460 If we required a fancy date.
00:10:14.980 So, our values have lessened.
00:10:16.120 That's what you're saying.
00:10:17.000 I would say women have thrown it at them. 1.00
00:10:19.260 Yeah.
00:10:19.580 Like, we're less valuable to men.
00:10:21.100 Because men are the same.
00:10:22.720 So, can we ask the men what's valuable to them?
00:10:24.760 That would be interesting.
00:10:25.480 Yeah, go ahead.
00:10:26.560 Start with them.
00:10:27.880 Like, what do you mean?
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