JustPearlyThings - Is Jordan Peterson Red Pill

00:00:00.000 Very cool. Very cool. Now, the transition, because here's the thing. You're doing a show

00:00:04.760 when you talk about male-female relationships. And I'm curious, first off, how did you being

00:00:09.620 an athlete affect your ability to be in a relationship? And then number two, we talk

00:00:14.500 about, you were on with Jedediah Bielo, right? Jedediah had had this discussion before. Jedediah

00:00:18.420 did not have a baby until she was 40. So she did it and she doesn't recommend other people do that.

00:00:24.860 Maybe, I think 38 she got married, 40 she had a baby. She's 44 now. She has a four-year-old.

00:00:30.000 She's not in the middle of the standard deviation. We know that, right? That's going to be before

00:00:33.500 28, before 27, some of that area. She waited until she's 40. She has a baby now. And she says,

00:00:38.280 okay, I know I'm out here in the fat tails of the standard deviation. It's very rare.

00:00:42.560 I forget what the stats are. You probably know about losing half your eggs at the age of 30.

00:00:47.300 And it's less than 5%, 2% once you cross the age of 40. So I'm curious. So she understood that she

00:00:55.120 was in essence talking bad about boss women, but she was one at some point because she was on The 1.00

00:01:01.580 View, right? She waited until she was 40. And with something she talks about, she's like, I know I was

00:01:05.860 living that life, but I wasn't happy. And so I'm curious from your standpoint, being a college

00:01:10.420 athlete and then having this podcast, has this been difficult for you for your dating life?

00:01:14.340 Um, yeah, I mean, I would say just like the, the sports for sure. Like it's tough to like be

00:01:22.420 traveling in and out of States when you're in college, you know, cause the, the schedule we

00:01:27.540 had was like really, really intense. Um, but yeah, I would say, I would say it makes it tough

00:01:33.440 sometimes because of the traveling. Yeah. Just cause of the time. Like that's why after this season,

00:01:37.840 I was like, I'm done. I'm not doing this again. When I play, when I ran track, the girls I used to

00:01:42.320 date were track athletes. Was that, was it like that for you? Were you usually athletes

00:01:45.700 with the guys that you would go out with? Um, yeah. Do you like male basketball players?

00:01:50.100 Is that like a type for you? Um, Hmm. Not really. No. I mean, they're, they're like fine,

00:02:01.640 but like basketball players are a bit like, they're tend to be like kind of players. Okay.

00:02:05.740 Got it. You know, like they're good looking, do you know what I mean? But like, it's just

00:02:09.440 kind of, you're kind of asking for trouble there. Got it. Got it. Nice. Um, so from that

00:02:14.460 standpoint, uh, again, I'm curious because we talked about this before in your situation,

00:02:18.360 you're now a public figure. Right. So let's back up to one other thing. I started this podcast

00:02:23.360 because of some remnants that happened because of a breakup. I went through a breakup and this

00:02:27.420 girl started lying and saying all this kind of crazy shit about me. And I was like, I'm never 0.98

00:02:30.100 going to let anybody start a narrative about me. Right. That's why I started this two years

00:02:33.440 ago. You, did you, is it true? You started this podcast, your podcast, or you started creating

00:02:37.800 content after getting out of a relationship? I did start the podcast after a relationship.

00:02:42.620 Yeah. I was kind of watching red pill content before that, but yeah, I did start it like

00:02:46.880 after I got out of a relationship. Was that a catalyst for you? Um, partially, I guess.

00:02:54.040 Yeah, actually probably looking back. Yeah. Did you, when you ended this relationship, did

00:02:58.580 you feel like you were trying to get back at somebody or you wanted to tell your own story

00:03:01.620 or was, no, no, it wasn't like that. It was just more like I was sad. Okay. Like I was just

00:03:06.200 really sad. Like I, like I did end it, but I was really sad. So, um, it was just kind

00:03:10.740 of like a distraction, I guess. Was your, not to get too personal if you don't want

00:03:14.720 to, but like did the relationship end because of mistakes either one of you made or was there

00:03:18.880 any, anything bad like that that happened? Um, I think I just realized our backgrounds

00:03:23.440 were just a bit too different, like for like a longterm, like, um, cause it was just kind

00:03:27.820 of getting to the point. Like if we dated longer, like it's kind of like, what's the next

00:03:32.560 step, you know? And I was just like, I just think I needed someone with a bit more similar

00:03:36.980 of like values, background, that sort of thing. Your views since watching the red pill content

00:03:41.220 has now, you, you, you mentioned before you grew up, you look up to your father. Your father

00:03:45.340 was very well off, grew up in a 10 bedroom house. Yes. Yes. Uh, you know, with how many

00:03:50.620 siblings do you have? Uh, it's kind of a, sorry, this is a, this is going to be a long winded

00:03:55.520 answer. I remember your, your oldest is, is, was adopted or was put off for adoption.

00:03:59.560 Yeah. Nine. Um, I grew up with six. So when I was growing up in, in my house, like I was

00:04:04.380 the second of six, they adopted two after I left for college. So two teenagers came into

00:04:09.460 the house. They adopted one teenager when I was a baby. She moved out when I was one

00:04:13.560 and they gave up one kid for adoption. So I was in, um, I, I, I, I met him when I was

00:04:20.500 22. So now I know like, so it's kind of weird cause I grew up with six, but like total

00:04:24.820 it's 10. Got it. Yeah. Did you, you had talked about this in length? I've heard you say this

00:04:30.200 before where they say high value men would always cheat and then you would tell your

00:04:34.020 dad like, Hey dad, you're supposed to have something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Did your

00:04:38.160 viewpoint change from there to when you started watching red pill content, where was the ethos

00:04:42.680 for you to start creating content like this? Oh, it used to trigger me when they would say

00:04:46.300 that. Oh my gosh, I would be so triggered. But when I, when I realized like my parents kind

00:04:51.480 of grew up in a different time. Um, and I realized like what they're saying is they're

00:04:55.360 more likely to cheat when they're in that category. And the question more is like, as

00:04:59.840 a woman, what are you going to do if they, if he does, you know, do what I mean? And I 1.00

00:05:03.600 just think like at the end of the day, you shouldn't break up a family, like for your

00:05:06.720 own feelings. Um, there's exceptions. Right. But no, it used to trigger me. I used to have

00:05:11.540 like a different opinion on that. Um, but no, my dad, my dad's never cheated. No one

00:05:15.940 believes me. Like everyone always says, yes, he has, but my dad's like one of the

00:05:19.700 best people I know, to be honest, like he's never drank. He's like been with one

00:05:23.960 woman his whole life. Like, I don't know. My dad's, my dad's awesome.

00:05:27.420 Do you think the possibility or the archetype that you see from your family is part of the

00:05:33.480 reason why you make this content? Because it'd be one thing. I feel like most red pill

00:05:38.200 content is why we're fucking up. And you have a family. Uh, when, when I look at my 0.99

00:05:44.180 grandparents that were together for 75 years, when I look at something like more than 75

00:05:47.700 years, I'm like, okay, well, there's an example where they didn't fuck up. Do you

00:05:52.180 look at your family like that? Like maybe this is an example of what we could do if

00:05:55.740 men and women would change their behavior? Um, you could say that I wouldn't say

00:06:02.860 that's like the reason I did red pill content. I just found it interesting to be

00:06:06.640 honest. Like I was just interested in it. Yeah. Um, I mean, there's like, I feel

00:06:11.040 like there's more than one reason. It wasn't like one reason that I did

00:06:13.340 everything, but yeah. What caused things to take off for you? Um, Oh my gosh,

00:06:18.940 it was my red. Everyone thinks it was the show. You know, it's funny. It was not

00:06:22.220 the show. It was actually, um, um, basically I started like, I did start the

00:06:27.200 show. So it was while I had the show. Um, and I, what I would do is I would

00:06:30.440 explain concepts that I was like watching and red pill. So I think our first episode

00:06:33.740 was like, guys, like, do we actually like that? You know, this is like so basic

00:06:37.580 now, but back then it was like kind of new to me. So I was like, guys, do we actually

00:06:41.040 like toxic men? Do we actually like bad boys? Like, what do you guys think

00:06:43.680 about this? And when I would explain a concept, um, and I think in that

00:06:47.480 episode somehow trans stuff or something came up, it was something, um, or the,

00:06:52.820 maybe it was the pay gap. I think it was the pay gap. That's what it was. And

00:06:56.120 very, which is really off topic. But then I was explaining how the pay gap

00:06:59.640 isn't real to this girl on the show named Jess. And after I could see, I would

00:07:04.100 always take the girls where the wheels were like kind of turning where I could see 0.96

00:07:07.260 red pill your friend. Yes. And so then I brought her back and that was like the

00:07:10.640 first series that took off. And it was kind of like a system where I would do

00:07:13.700 the show. And then the girls that were kind of like, huh? Like the wheels were

00:07:17.560 turning. I would take them back and then show them like a red pill content

00:07:20.820 creators stuff. So, well, I mean, I guess Jordan Peterson isn't like red pill,

00:07:25.640 right? But they use that word for so many different things.

00:07:27.680 Yeah. They do. The thing with Jordan Peterson is he, he evokes, he invokes

00:07:32.040 evolutionary psychology a lot. And that's why you put him in that category.

00:07:35.120 Yeah. And also like, again, we're skipping ahead. You discussed before about Ben Shapiro

00:07:40.640 and Jordan Peterson talking about an attack on masculinity.

00:07:44.580 Right. Right. And you're a big fan of Jordan Peterson.

00:07:46.800 Yeah, I am.

00:07:47.440 Do you, do you feel, can you describe like how you think that works? Because I feel the

00:07:51.140 same way where there's an attack on just the concept. Like, I don't think there's such

00:07:55.140 thing as toxic masculinity. I think they're toxic people. 0.99

00:07:57.360 Yeah. 0.99

00:07:57.720 They can be masculine or feminine. But when a SEAL team is coming to rescue me from another

00:08:01.740 country, I want those motherfuckers to be masculine as shit. Right. I don't care about 1.00

00:08:04.880 their toxicness. Do you, do you, do you feel like there's an attack?

00:08:07.920 Yeah. Well, I actually had like sort of a red pill moment when I was listening to like

00:08:11.660 one of Rolo's streams and he was talking about how like the, the masculine way of doing things

00:08:16.520 is always considered wrong.

00:08:18.000 Okay.

00:08:18.500 And I was, and I was thinking about it and I was like, it's the same way they'll say,

00:08:22.340 oh, you need to open up emotionally to men, but that's not how men process emotions.

00:08:26.780 Yeah.

00:08:27.020 And so like what I realized, I was like, oh my gosh, like the masculine way of doing

00:08:31.080 things is always wrong. And I mean, before that I always knew it. I mean, in a way, because

00:08:36.520 it's like, you have all these girls saying men are trash, men are the problem. Like, but 1.00

00:08:40.300 that's like the basic talking point. Like when you really peel it down, I was like, that is

00:08:43.880 so interesting.

00:08:45.620 I think what it is, is the, when men do things in a masculine manner, it doesn't feel right.

00:08:52.340 Okay. Again, when you, when you use the example of the burning building or storming Normandy,

00:08:56.620 then the masculine way is right. It doesn't matter how you feel about it. But when it comes

00:09:00.720 to like, I have this conversation again with, when I talk to some of my female friends or

00:09:04.300 my girlfriend, but we're having a conversation and I'm like, you're listening to the words

00:09:08.100 I'm saying, and then you're looking for an additional meaning in what I'm saying. But

00:09:11.120 I mean exactly the words I'm saying. There's nothing additional to it. It's just the words

00:09:16.060 I'm saying. There's nothing else. And they're like, but why are you so mad at me? I'm

00:09:19.840 like, no, you didn't hear what I just said. I'm not mad at you. What, what's going on

00:09:23.360 is I'm saying words. What the truth is exactly the words I'm saying, but you're like looking

00:09:28.240 for my hand movement and my eye inflection and there's nothing going on. And it's so

00:09:33.340 hard. And like, especially for me with women I work with and women, when I'm on a date

00:09:37.920 before I got in this relationship, it was one of these things where like, I need to be

00:09:41.060 able to trust you. The only way I can trust you is if I say I'm going to be here at this

00:09:45.360 time and you understand there's no additional meaning. It doesn't mean I'm going to be here

00:09:49.240 at this time and fuck you. I'm mad at you. It just means I'm going to be here at this 1.00

00:09:51.980 time. If you can't just literally listen to the words that I'm saying and understand

00:09:56.380 the literal meaning, we can't accomplish things together. And that's the thing that's

00:10:00.140 so scary to me, which is why we get into the, the 304s go over here. Right. And then

00:10:05.440 the men you work with are over here because we're getting off topic here. But one of the

00:10:09.760 things that always bothers me is because I'll have feminists on the show and I have a lot 1.00

00:10:13.980 of my female friends in LA, usually they're feminists. And we'll have this discussion.

00:10:17.160 I'll be like, you want to be taken more seriously in the workplace. Let's say specifically science,

00:10:21.420 technology, engineering, and mathematics. Okay. And then when you do so, when I ask you how

00:10:25.840 you picked who you dated, you started quoting astrology.

00:10:31.160 Okay. Sorry. That's funny.

00:10:32.440 How am I supposed to take you seriously? Right. Do you understand what I'm saying?

00:10:36.700 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So again, again, one of my, uh, uh, one of my friends, she was, uh, uh,

00:10:41.440 interviewing me for, um, financial network for tasty trade. And while she's interviewing me,

00:10:46.680 Veneta Logan, and she's interviewing me and she's like, this is why women need to be taken more 1.00

00:10:51.440 seriously in this workplace. And then she says, I don't sign a contract when mercury is in retrograde.

00:10:55.020 And I'm like, do you not understand the problem there? It's like, you don't understand regular

00:10:59.280 physics. It's okay to believe in astrology as like a fun thing. It's like watching when I watch the

00:11:04.060 Hulk Hogan fight the ultimate warrior. I knew it wasn't real. They don't really hate each other.

00:11:08.640 They probably swap wives and get steroids from the same person. They're not actually hating each

00:11:13.180 other. The problem is when people start thinking Sagittarius is real, Libra is a real thing,

00:11:17.600 but then I'm supposed to like, you want me to take you more seriously. How am I supposed to take

00:11:22.300 you more seriously when I'm asking you to read the evolution of desire, but you're quoting the

00:11:26.460 five love languages to me. You see what I'm saying? I'm asking you to read why beautiful people have

00:11:30.700 more daughters, but you're quoting sperm wars to me, or you're, you're talking about something you 0.99

00:11:34.460 read in 50 shades of gray. How do I, when I'm, when I'm giving you objective facts and you're quoting

00:11:39.980 back to me, how you feel about something. I don't know how, as many of you know, I was just banned on

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JustPearlyThings - May 25, 2023

Is Jordan Peterson Red Pill

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