JustPearlyThings - March 30, 2023


Is MGTOW the future？？

Topics
marriage laws and advice
Hosted by
Hannah Pearl Davis
Mentioned
Kevin Samuels James
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Length

14 minutes

Words per minute

146.63

Word count

2,090

Sentence count

199

Harmful content

Misogyny

22

sentences flagged

Toxicity

3

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Hate speech

11

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Summary

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In this episode, we talk about why men and women should or should not get married, the benefits and risks of marriage, and what modern solutions should be in order to save marriage from falling apart. We also talk about whether or not women should get married before they have kids.

Transcript

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00:00:00.040 Hello, this is Pearl. You're live on the air.
00:00:03.620 Hi, turn off the YouTube in the background.
00:00:07.640 Yeah, yeah, I got it off.
00:00:10.400 Can you hear me?
00:00:11.140 Yeah, yeah. Hi, how are you?
00:00:12.780 Hi. Yeah, well, I can keep my two cents, I guess, about the situation.
00:00:18.640 You kept on asking people for giving like also like a take on the women's side. 1.00
00:00:23.200 So I would try to do that as well.
00:00:24.660 So that's what in general, like I think maybe as of today, a lot of people don't see marriage.
00:00:33.260 I'm not talking solely on traditional people as a relative thing as much as in the past.
00:00:42.540 And because of it, like I know, like I'm not young and I'm not that young, I guess, anymore.
00:00:49.540 And a lot of my friends, a lot of people that I know around me just don't marry.
00:00:53.480 And not only like because of like the issues, a lot of people are not aware of like the risk of like, you know, the things that you bring up as a, oh, it's like a trap for men or something.
00:01:06.000 Just in general, like, you know, people just see it as less a thing that you want to get dragged into because of the risk in general.
00:01:17.000 So I guess like, you know, when you said like about saving it, so the idea is like whether it's like a saveable or like if it needs to be saved.
00:01:30.720 I would say like only like if you consider like, you know, the idea of having kids and that kind of stuff and looking at the kids as the reason to even try to save it.
00:01:41.580 Because otherwise, like personally, like personally, if I find a connection and as other people said, like, I wouldn't say that I need to be married in order to consider it like as a good connection, like a lifelong connection.
00:01:55.680 I don't need to stand from a state or a church in that regard.
00:02:02.240 Can you hear me, by the way?
00:02:03.660 Yeah, I can hear you.
00:02:04.500 So if men do want a family, do you think they should get married? 0.74
00:02:08.580 What modern solution do you think men should do going forward?
00:02:12.620 Well, a vote for better politicians, I guess.
00:02:15.780 OK, so so and walk away from marriage until the laws change. 1.00
00:02:21.940 Are you saying walk away from marriage until the laws change? 0.81
00:02:25.780 That's definitely something that like men should be wary of that.
00:02:29.660 And yeah.
00:02:30.620 And yeah, till they get it.
00:02:33.040 I mean, like, unfortunately, a lot of people are going to play into the system.
00:02:35.960 And then in case they're going to play into the system, they're going to probably like keep hurting like other men that will try like to get into that.
00:02:45.320 So you can't really do anything too much.
00:02:47.760 Just avoid it, I guess, like till it changes is one thing.
00:02:53.680 Or like prenups is kind of like maybe a thing that like some people I know, like I have a few friends that did it.
00:03:00.320 But it helps.
00:03:02.420 It's better than nothing.
00:03:03.620 Although like it makes things awkward, obviously, especially when you are younger.
00:03:07.540 And it's just like, oh, yeah, it's like you're like kind of like a fairytale idea of marriage, like for a lot of people, especially in younger ages.
00:03:17.300 And it definitely like hard to see yourself as a young person getting divorced.
00:03:24.460 What do you think about women? 1.00
00:03:26.500 Should women marry before they carry? 1.00
00:03:28.100 You mean that they, what do you mean?
00:03:34.200 That they get pregnant? 0.96
00:03:35.700 I mean, like before getting like.
00:03:38.320 Yeah, because on one hand, a lot of people in this space, they don't get married or walk away from marriage till the laws change, which I understand.
00:03:45.600 I agree.
00:03:46.080 But at the same time, like then should women still marry before they carry? 1.00
00:03:51.120 Should they be OK with a long term relationship without marriage?
00:03:54.060 Yeah, it's tough.
00:03:59.120 So this is why I wanted like to give my take about like women's side, I guess. 1.00
00:04:02.660 The problem is like, obviously, there is a lot of nowadays, a lot of you say like liberal women or that kind of stuff. 0.88
00:04:08.160 And I definitely like to be the last one like to show any hate or like any issues with that.
00:04:15.380 But there's obviously like the conservative women. 1.00
00:04:21.320 And for the liberal ones, a lot of them will be like, hey, maybe they don't want kids.
00:04:26.400 They are like claim they want like equality and that kind of stuff.
00:04:30.400 They don't really, they'll be like, I guess, kind of fine in this situation.
00:04:34.400 It's like things are at the moment, I guess, till they are not.
00:04:37.140 So I just I need a more direct answer to the question.
00:04:42.640 Should women marry before they carry? 1.00
00:04:47.600 I think like, I mean, they should.
00:04:51.240 I mean, like in general, like, you know, you want to you don't want to build a house.
00:04:56.980 Like you don't want to have a kid before I think you're getting married unless you know that you're never going to marry.
00:05:02.100 Like officially.
00:05:02.980 But like, obviously, I would say, like, if you want to have kids, I mean, build the best house for that.
00:05:09.940 OK, thank you for calling in.
00:05:12.140 Thank you.
00:05:13.040 Thank you for calling in.
00:05:15.640 Thank you.
00:05:17.040 OK, you got it.
00:05:19.100 You have the next one.
00:05:23.940 Because blessing, it's an interesting convo.
00:05:28.700 What do you think?
00:05:29.500 Blessings should they marry before they carry? 0.98
00:05:32.980 Is the phone stressing you out?
00:05:42.560 Why are they stressing you out?
00:05:46.400 Is it 150?
00:05:49.160 Per minute?
00:05:50.560 Oh, wow.
00:05:52.080 OK, you can open it up.
00:05:53.940 I'm curious in the chat.
00:06:05.080 OK, should women marry before they carry if men don't want to get married? 1.00
00:06:09.360 Women should definitely marry. 1.00
00:06:18.420 Marriage is a W for women. 1.00
00:06:22.860 Hello.
00:06:25.940 Hello.
00:06:26.520 How's it going?
00:06:27.260 I'm good.
00:06:27.760 How are you?
00:06:28.640 This is Pearl.
00:06:29.400 You're live on the air.
00:06:31.140 What is the solution to modern dating going forward for men and for women?
00:06:34.620 So I believe in one or two solutions.
00:06:38.680 I think either one, we need to normalize getting married without the state's involvement.
00:06:43.520 That would be my first answer.
00:06:45.160 Or two, if we need the state's involvement, we need to set up license renewals the same
00:06:49.920 way a driver's license needs to be renewed.
00:06:52.060 A gun license needs to be renewed.
00:06:53.340 Oh, that's interesting.
00:06:54.080 You know, I think marriage license should be renewed.
00:06:56.220 And if you choose not to renew it, you shouldn't need to involve the courts.
00:06:59.640 And both parties should walk away scot-free.
00:07:02.840 Oh, that's an interesting idea.
00:07:04.600 I've never thought of that.
00:07:06.620 Like a license renewal.
00:07:08.400 What do you think?
00:07:08.980 Should women, with the way the laws are now, should they require marriage before they carry? 1.00
00:07:15.740 So yes and no.
00:07:16.820 Yes, that's good advice for women, but no for men.
00:07:19.720 Because it'll get to more liability, if I'm being honest.
00:07:23.040 Okay, so if you had a daughter and she said, I'm with a guy, he wants to have kids and a
00:07:28.860 family, but he doesn't want to get married legally, would you tell her to stay or go? 0.60
00:07:33.660 I would tell her to go.
00:07:34.980 Okay.
00:07:36.400 It's interesting how the advice conflicts each other.
00:07:40.560 So why would you tell her to go?
00:07:42.380 It shouldn't have to be that way, but it does.
00:07:43.640 Why would you tell her to go if you can understand why men don't want to get married? 0.95
00:07:47.780 Like that seems reasonable.
00:07:48.840 So I would simply tell her to go because it's going to be in her best interest.
00:07:55.380 Now, in terms of the man himself, obviously I'd have to meet him and there'd have to be,
00:08:00.220 if he thought the exact same way that I did and I could relate to him on a person-to-person
00:08:04.680 level, I'm open to exceptions.
00:08:07.300 But for the most part, as a general rule of thumb, just speaking in general, I would advise
00:08:11.460 her to go.
00:08:11.860 Do you think men, if he loves you, he'll marry you?
00:08:18.620 Do you think that's true?
00:08:21.240 No, I don't think that's true.
00:08:23.080 I think that he'd be willing to marry you, but it really just depends on the circumstances
00:08:27.740 in regards to finance, in regards to his perception of the U.S. law.
00:08:32.260 You know, there's a lot more variables now that we have social media, we have YouTube,
00:08:38.800 we have people like you, obviously Kevin Samuels, everybody educating young men.
00:08:43.380 I think it's going to become more and more common for men to hesitate towards marriage.
00:08:47.640 How long do you think is too long for a girl to be waiting for a ring? 1.00
00:08:51.140 Yeah, I mean, it's tough.
00:08:57.960 So if it's from me giving the advice to my daughter, I would say 10 years.
00:09:04.100 That's going to be too long.
00:09:05.900 Okay, so you'd be okay with your daughter waiting five?
00:09:09.880 Yeah, if she's young.
00:09:10.840 Obviously, if she's in her late 20s, then she's going to have to act a lot more quickly, 1.00
00:09:15.200 especially if she wants to have children.
00:09:16.540 But yeah, I'm assuming that she's young, 20 years old, 19, 20.
00:09:21.160 Yeah, absolutely.
00:09:22.220 Okay, well, thank you for calling in.
00:09:23.820 Appreciate it.
00:09:25.320 Yeah, no problem.
00:09:26.220 Take care.
00:09:27.180 Thanks, you too. 0.97
00:09:29.100 The freaking marriage renewal. 0.88
00:09:32.120 That is such an interesting idea. 0.94
00:09:34.640 I've never thought, this is why I opened the call lines.
00:09:38.240 Because there's stuff I never would have thought of.
00:09:40.100 Never would have thought of that.
00:09:43.440 Okay, guys, call in.
00:09:45.260 Should women marry before they carry? 1.00
00:09:49.220 Turn your YouTube off in the background.
00:09:51.860 You're live on the air.
00:09:52.720 This is Pearl.
00:09:55.840 Hello?
00:10:00.660 Okay, next caller.
00:10:05.380 Hello?
00:10:08.620 Hi.
00:10:11.200 This is Pearl.
00:10:12.140 You're live on the air.
00:10:12.920 What is the solution to modern dating going forward for men and for women?
00:10:18.000 Oh, hi.
00:10:19.060 My name is James.
00:10:20.440 Hi.
00:10:21.520 Personally, I've been viewing things in a kind of separative situation.
00:10:27.420 Marriage has always kind of been overseen by a government of power.
00:10:30.600 So, the argument of removing it from either state or church is kind of a misnomer to me.
00:10:39.080 But, there is a, I believe the problem is perception.
00:10:46.300 We kind of view marriage as the defining act of commitment.
00:10:52.560 And, I think we need to bring a kind of understanding of how commitment and marriage are separate things.
00:11:07.140 Because marriage has always been to support a household or family. 0.68
00:11:10.940 And, that changes depending on the environment that you reside in.
00:11:17.500 The age, the nation, the culture, wherever you are at, that changes the needs of a group.
00:11:28.960 What do you mean?
00:11:29.940 Can you tell me more about the difference between commitment and marriage?
00:11:33.920 Well, commitment is your personal decision to be committed to an individual or anything.
00:11:40.120 And, that doesn't have to be that one person.
00:11:46.900 Being committed means you're committed to this thing.
00:11:50.960 So, if it's a relationship, you're committed to that relationship.
00:11:53.580 If you're committed to your job, whatever it's, you're committed to it.
00:11:57.260 Marriage is taking on extra characterizations to support the things that come along with that.
00:12:07.520 So, if you have a family, marriage, it helps you, whether it be taxes or household environment, stability.
00:12:18.440 There are benefits to come with it.
00:12:19.820 That's always been the case with marriage.
00:12:22.860 So, what do you think the solution is going for?
00:12:25.460 What should men get married? 1.00
00:12:29.880 No.
00:12:30.360 The solution I'm thinking or going for is to re-understand and define how we view such relationships and marriages.
00:12:43.560 To make it easier to conceptualize and restore the kind of balance when we have government involvement.
00:12:57.120 Because there always will be in some fashion government or organization like the church.
00:13:01.440 Right now, it's so one-sided and it's incentivized to kind of disrupt marriage because walking away for a woman comes with so many benefits. 0.97
00:13:18.760 We need to restore that one so it's actually incentivized to maintain a marriage, but also have the perception that marriage itself is to support things. 0.60
00:13:33.200 We need to bring in extra benefits and extra, um, um, aid, uh, that's, uh, it's not the defining one that makes commitment.
00:13:45.200 Your own choice at being committed is what defines commitment.
00:13:48.500 Marriage is a helping hand in a way, um, because that's what you're doing.
00:13:54.640 When you get married, you're like, Hey, cool.
00:13:56.280 We're married.
00:13:57.160 Can I have these benefits?
00:13:59.080 You know, I was just banned on Tik TOK and we are demonetized on a daily basis on this platform.
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