Jordan Peterson Agrees With Me
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Summary
Ben Shapiro says marriage is good and you should get married in 2023. I disagree. Also, my producer King is fighting in a boxing match this Sunday in the city of London and I'm going to be there!
Transcript
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What up, guys? Welcome to the Just Pearly Things YouTube channel, and welcome to another episode
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of Pearl Daily, where I cover this week's treachery, debauchery, and craziness. Before
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to push out these streams. Please, guys, let's get to 2,500 likes on this video. A like is free.
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Also, guys, my producer King is fighting in a boxing match this Sunday out here in the good
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old city of London. I will be attending as well as our production team and some of the talents.
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If you're interested in attending and meeting some of us, the link to King's Instagram will
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be in the description. It is Sunday, the 8th of October at the Scala Event Center in King's
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Cross, London. Okay, so today we have a couple of different topics. Guys, I feel like I've
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been talking back and forth to the Daily Wire all week. I don't know why we can't have a
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debate. Okay, a discussion on the pros and cons of marriage in 2023. So Ben Shapiro tweeted. He
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didn't say at me. Okay, he didn't at me, guys, but Ben, just at me next time, okay? All right,
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so Ben says, marriage is good and you should get married. Marriage will make you a better person.
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You should date with an eye towards marriage, seeking commonality of values, the single most
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important foundation for a lasting marriage. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. I disagree.
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Where do I disagree? I want to break down every single one of Ben's statements. So marriage is
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good. I do believe that the ideal marriage of two virgins getting married and staying married for a
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lifetime, I do believe that is good. You should get married. I do not believe it is always in men's
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best interest in 2023 to get married. I think that maybe wealthier men have an easier time with
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marriage than broke men. Then we have to realize that the average man in this country is about 5'9",
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5'10", makes about $55,000 a year and is about 180 pounds. These are all give or take depending on
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which website you look on. But a lot of times their prescriptions really depend on the guy.
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And when we look at the average woman who's about 170 pounds, 5'5", one out of three has had an
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abortion, one out of four has had an STD, and 90% have been on birth control at some point in their
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lives, I would argue that it is not always in men's best interest to get married. And telling men to get
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married without warning them of the risks and telling them and giving them every opportunity to
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protect themselves really is, I would argue, negligent. I believe it is negligent to tell men, by and large,
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that they should just get married. As much as I, as a Catholic, would love to see the return of families
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and traditionalism, I would argue you will never see that until you change the laws. What the tradcons
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will often say is, well, it'll take so much time to change the laws. In the meantime, you should just get
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married. Well, my question is, why would the institutions change if they keep having willing
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customers that sign up? So Ben says marriage will make you a better person. I would argue that is
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very dependent on the man and the wife. There are absolutely nagging, belittling wives that make
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marriage a living hellhole for men. And no, it does not make them a happy, healthier person. Ben says you
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should date with an eye towards marriage, seeking a commonality of values, the single most important
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foundation for a lasting marriage. Ben is really selling here that if you just find a woman with a
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commonality of values, that it is not the risks, that it is not as risky as the pearl doom and gloomer
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will say. Now, some of this is an inference, so, you know, take it with a grain of salt. But I would
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argue that even a 10% chance of getting your life absolutely destroyed in divorce is still pretty risky.
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We all know that even amongst religious couples, the divorce rate is still 25, 35, 45%. And what
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happens is we go back and forth with the trad cons and they'll say, oh, well, it's lower than you guys
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are saying. You're doom and gloomers. And what I typically see them do is manipulate the stats.
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Now, how do they do that? If the average age of divorce is 46, I would argue you're not painting a
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full picture by using the stats of men in their 20s and 30s. I know many men that were very happily
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married in their 20s and 30s before getting their lives absolutely destroyed in their 40s and 50s.
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A more honest answer would be surveying the men in their 60s and 70s what their opinion is on marriage.
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If I had to guess, it would be very different than the men married today. The other issue is,
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is they downplay the difference in the time period that we are in. Most women have been addicted to
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attention from the time they were very, very young. This creates a completely different pool
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of women that men have to choose from. The women are more slutty and overweight than ever. And really,
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when we don't acknowledge these things and tell men to just get married with a system that profits off
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of them having their lives ruined, there's no real solution because you're not even acknowledging
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the problem. You're downplaying that it exists. I would argue that is negligent.
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Of the single most important foundation for a lasting marriage, I would agree commonality of
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values. However, I do not think that is a foolproof plan. Ben Shapiro is an extremely high
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IQ individual. I am sure it was very apparent from a young age to Ben's family, friends, and community
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that he was going to be a success. I don't think you could talk to Ben Shapiro for more than five
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minutes without noticing this guy is crazy smart. Women notice that type of things. The level of
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respect that Ben Shapiro is going to get in a room is very different from the average man.
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He has amassed a net worth of over $50 million, according to Google. And being that he's worth over
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$50 million, he's going to have a very different experience in marriage. So Jordan Peterson actually
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weighed in. And I think he's taken my side. I think I think I'm dividing the daily wire on this.
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And I want to point out that the older men are much more taking Pearl's side than the younger men,
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which again, supports my original hypothesis was that was that Andrew Clavin says that Pearl has a
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point. And the younger men call me a doom and gloomer and call the men cry babies, you know,
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and just say, get married anyway. Now, Jordan Peterson comes in, and I am a Jordan Peterson fan.
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So Jordan Peterson weighs in and says, but Ben Shapiro, the divorce and custody laws need upgrading.
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So this idea that all of the right wing is just saying, oh, men, sign up anyway. Imagine, imagine,
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okay, you had to sign, you got a contract, okay, imagine. And this contract says that your partner
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has all of the leverage. And this contract says, your business partner is paid to leave you. Yes,
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they're paid to break this contract. And this business partner will be rewarded for ruining
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your life financially and emotionally. If we take the religion out of it, because the facts don't
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care about your religion. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm a Catholic, but we have to be honest here.
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You would never sign that contract. But the truth of the matter is until child custody laws change,
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you will not see women act different. And, and my appeal to the Daily Wire is let's advocate for
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these laws. I want to see 20 videos on everyone's channel advocating for this stuff because you guys are
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the most influential voice in the media, I would argue. I don't know many people you could argue,
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maybe Fox News, but I really don't know many people that have as much pull as the Daily Wire.
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Why is this not the number one issue on all platforms instead of just waving away
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men's real concerns and saying, get married anyway. So I tweet and I'm asking, we, it doesn't even have
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to be a debate, but a real conversation about solutions in this society. So is that a no from the Daily
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Wire to have a debate on marriage? It should be a good discussion if you want the truth to come out
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and the facts are on your side. Why not have it? It was important enough. And guys, it was actually
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five Daily Wire hosts. I forgot. It was important enough for five of your hosts to respond to me.
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Let's set a date. Pearl, 26 year old Pearl. Okay. I got Matt Walsh, Jeremy Boring. Was it boring?
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I've been saying Boeing this whole time. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Ben Shapiro and Andrew Klavan
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and Jordan Peterson, five hosts to respond to me. Yet I'm being told no for a debate,
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but we've talked about this all week. Okay. Andrew Klavan said, and I want to, I want to break
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this down. Long before you or Tate or any of the red pills, I was an outspoken anti-feminist,
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but also an anti-misogynist. Femininity with its work of soul-making and homemaking is a spiritual
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value. And both the right and left have become materialists. So degrading the feminine sphere
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that now people can't even define what the word woman and think a man in a dress will suffice.
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I don't, is he accusing me of misogyny? I don't know. I don't, I'm not even saying he is or he isn't,
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but it's like, I'm like, okay, so can we debate? And he's like, before the red pill,
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I was an outspoken anti-feminist and anti-misogynist. Okay. Femininity with its work
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of soul-making and homemaking is a spiritual value. Okay. We don't. Okay. And both the left
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and the right have become materialists. So degrading the feminine sphere that now people
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can't even define what the, okay, I don't, what does that have to do with the debate?
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This is why I was confused. Okay. So of course, as parallel, so of course, as pearly things has
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noted, marriage is broken. True. Okay. So I agree with pearl. That's what I hear. But to,
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but to deride the institution and denigrate women, is he accusing me of denigrating women?
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How many times on the show have I said, there are exceptional, awesome women out there,
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but the stats are not on our side, ladies, not in 2023. Okay. These aren't ideas that can be debated.
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They are just inarticulate cries. Oh no. Andrew, this sounds like something like a chick would say
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to psychoanalyze me. They're inarticulate cries of pains from, of, from souls in a materialistic hell.
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Okay. You can't, okay. This, this part I really disagreed with. You can't treat bodies as sex toys
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and then complain when you wake up in bed with an abusive pimp or a crazy whore. Andrew, Andrew,
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you're 70 years old. Okay. So you might not know the reality of the situation. Um, okay. What is a
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whore? We have to define first. What, what is a whore? Um, really there are not enough wives to go
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around. There are not enough wives to go around for the average man. There are more only fans,
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workers, sex workers, and cam models than there are teachers in this country under the age of 35.
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So, and it's kind of, and he's kind of, again, putting it back on the men. It's so interesting.
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Whenever men have a complaint, we have such a gut instinct to just tell them it's their fault.
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Pimps and whores are vicious people. What did you expect? Andrew, the truth of the matter is
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typically the men that are actually getting screwed in marriage are men that wanted traditionalism.
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The guys that are pimps that are out screwing everybody, they don't get married. What incentive
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would those men have to settle down when they have all of the women? Do you think that Drake will get
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married? Do you think most of these men that have access to all of the women will get married? Some do,
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and we can look at exceptions, but I would argue that most men that get screwed in divorce that I
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have spoken to actually were good men that wanted to be traditional. And really the situation happened
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because they had a predatory woman. They had a woman that they thought was something that she wasn't.
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And really saying, what did you expect to a guy that hasn't seen his kids in two years,
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has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to get his children, I would argue is wrong.
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It's wrong and it's not correct. The men that are getting screwed in divorce are not the pimps.
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They are the good men that want to do the right thing. But the issue is when we have the incentive
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structure that we do, even good women will, even seemingly good women, when they're not feeling
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the right way, will sign up. On top of that, we have an entire media dedicated to telling women that
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we're amazing and special and that the man is just not doing enough. Look at how even one of the
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Daily Wire hosts reacted to the Crowder divorce. When Candace Owens covered the Crowder divorce,
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she alleged that Steven Crowder was emotionally abusive. What is emotional abuse? This woman was
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a stay-at-home housewife with a nanny crying emotional abuse. This is the world that we are living in.
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And all of the media slandered his name. Crowder is a traditional guy. If this happened to a rich,
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successful media personality that believes in Christian values, what chance does the average
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man have? I just heard a couple from our show. Today, I just ran into him. I was going for a walk.
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Ran into a couple from our show. They're getting married. I'm overjoyed. I love seeing people have
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a happy ending. But what I don't love is men thinking they're signing up for one thing and getting
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absolutely destroyed later because they have no idea what they're signing up for. And the truth of
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the matter is the facts don't care about your religion. Yes, I am a Catholic. It does not make
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me happy to talk about these things. But the truth of the matter, when we look at the numbers, when it
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comes to issues regarding divorce, the numbers are not on our side. The truth of the matter is many of
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the men at the Daily Wire are out of touch for two reasons. One, they are a 1% man in society.
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I'm sorry, but most men's lives do not involve them becoming multi-millionaire rich famous men.
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Now, you could argue that maybe they weren't that at one point, but women are experts at selecting
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for the traits that make a man successful later. I believe that the only solution is changing the
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laws. And I question why they keep coming at the red pill instead of having a real conversation
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about changing the divorce laws. So I beg you, I plead with you, Daily Wire, please, even if it's
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not with me, have a real conversation about solutions about marriage. Question the politicians that you're
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interviewing this election season about how they're going to advocate for men's issues and more
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importantly, children's issues this election season. Children deserve a mother and a father and children
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deserve two parent households. With the incentive structure that you have, you will see marriage
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disappear regardless of myself, the Tates or any other red pill influencer.