Liberal and Conservative Women Are Not That Different ｜ Pearl Daily
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Summary
In this episode, Dr. Leah Aguirre talks about how to recognize if you are in an emotionally abusive relationship and how to deal with it. Emotionally abusive relationships are often complicated and nuanced and can be hard to identify and understand. This episode is dedicated to women who have been emotionally abused and how they can recognize if they are in one.
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When things aren't okay or if you're being harmed.
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So apparently this woman, Leah Aguirre, a contributor and therapist on Psychology Today says,
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I am often asked, how do I know if I'm in an emotionally abusive relationship?
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And I always respond with, well, how do you feel in your relationship?
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This response can be frustrating for those individuals who are looking for a checklist, an itemized list of specific behaviors that can be labeled as abusive.
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Unfortunately, because emotionally abusive relationships are often complex and more nuanced, the abuse can be hard to detect and put one's finger on.
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Emotionally abusive relationships often don't start off as abusive.
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The abuse occurs slowly and gradually, and once trust has been established and the emotions are involved through coercive and controlling behaviors, the emotionally abusive partner creates power and control dynamic that systemically diminishes your sense of self-worth and your ability to trust your judgment and intuition.
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This can make it hard to see the relationship for what it is, therefore, it's important to focus on how you are feeling in the relationship physically and emotionally.
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Now, the reason everybody I'm reading you this article is not because I'm trying to shove some BS psychology down your throat, but I want to show you how women, and I guess men sometimes, YouTube, no hate speech, not all, not all, not all.
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So get into the wrong type of content, and what it does is it rationalizes them leaving relationships and also leaving their husbands, and it supplies a therapist in your city or zip code.
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People to tell your problems to, problems you used to work out with your friends, family, and you would go to close relatives and maybe figure it out as a family.
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The challenge is now people are having one kid, we don't live by extended family, you know, you're kind of shit out of luck, you're on your own, and half of your parents are divorced anyway, you can't go to them.
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And what happens is they have crazy women in colleges that go study psychology, and yeah, they set your wife up within a crazy woman to talk to about her problems and your relations.
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Her words, her words, her words, it's based on how you feel, not a checklist of what is abuse.
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For example, it says healthy relationships offer you peace and security.
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Now, as you guys know, this isn't always necessarily the case.
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You are not always going to feel secure in a relationship.
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A woman could be in a healthy relationship with a guy that's very high status.
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She probably will never feel secure completely because that guy can trade her for another 22-year-old.
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Do you think Melania Trump wakes up every day feeling secure?
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And is the insecurity that we feel, is it their fault?
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I mean, it's not like they put a gun to our heads, regardless of what they are doing.
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And so what this therapy website is doing is it's saying the feelings that you have are another person's fault.
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Now, it also says emotionally abusive relationships are inherently stressful,
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and your body takes on the stress of your emotionally abusive relationship.
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Below are examples of how the stress of an abusive relationship can manifest in your body.
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And what I've noticed is in a lot of these websites that are selling you something,
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they have a tendency to say that the symptoms are symptoms that most people have or everybody has at some point.
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Chronic headaches, chronic fatigue, digestive issues, weight loss, hair loss, high blood pressure, muscle tension, back pain,
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inconsistent or irregular periods, insomnia, poor memory loss, and brain fog.
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So now they're going to ask you to tune in to how you are feeling.
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Take some time to connect with your body and ask how you're feeling.
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So I guess these questions will let me know, am I being abused?
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You know, it's not clear, so I've got to go to my website.
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And I guess, you know, I'm going to see, based on these questions, if I'm being emotionally abused.
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So if I've had any changes in my mood or mental state since being in a relationship,
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How might I be acting or behaving differently that may indicate that I'm not okay?
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So if I act or behave differently, hmm, how do I feel around or in the presence of my partner?
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What feelings come up when I think about my partner or relationship?
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And have there been any noticeable changes in my body or physical health?
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So what's actually going on here is oftentimes women are married to a guy that we deem as boring.
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And what happens is we know that they're a good guy.
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But they have to rationalize a reason to leave.
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So what she's doing or the person writing this or the people she's consulting with are doing is
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they're married to good men and they need to rationalize a reason to divorce.
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And it's really just because they married men that they find boring or they didn't like
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that much because they wanted a kid and they got whatever they wanted and they need a reason
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to leave and they don't want to look like they're a bad person.
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Because if they leave because they're bored, that makes them look like a bad person.
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If they leave because they were emotionally abused, then that saves their reputation.
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That is women's driving force, is our reputation.
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And when you put it like that, stuff like this makes perfect sense, sort of.
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If you guys want me to read your comments, questions, concerns, theaudacitynetwork.com.
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And all you have to do is go to theaudacitynetwork.com, sign up for our monthly or yearly memberships.
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And I do read your questions and your comments in the chat.
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So you could be the first one, you know, while we're live every day.
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And, you know, most of the time on channels, you have to pay for them to read your comment.
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So if you go on to my website and chat in that chat, then it's $10 for the month, $80 for the year.
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So we could keep doing it as long as no one abuses it.
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So the next story that we're going to talk about is Caitlin Clark.
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So Caitlin Clark is a woman that is playing in the WNBA.
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And Caitlin Clark is a phenomenal basketball player.
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She, but the challenge is she is in a league full of liberal women.
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Now, these liberal women are trying to make things political when really it should, I would
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So she was nominated to be the athlete of the year.
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And at this award ceremony, what did they have to bring up?
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Now, as you guys know, women, we do change over time and we often go with what is trendy.
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So if you have a upper class, it seems like conservative woman in a league full of lesbians,
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liberals, I'm not surprised when her rhetoric is becoming more liberal.
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And the reason this actually relates to the stages that women go through in marriage is oftentimes
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they start off as a Christian conservative woman.
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And if they're in the wrong friend group, get into the wrong content or get a wrong, the wrong,
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They go through different phases where, you know, we change.
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For athlete of the year, like tremendous, yeah, you know, your announcement for athlete
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of the year, like tremendous, incredible, positive feedback.
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And I feel like you have had to answer more questions than anybody about sexuality in sport
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because of just who you are and you represent the growth of this thing.
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And even today, earlier today, Megyn Kelly, she was saying that you were apologizing for
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your white privilege and the fact that you wanted to uplift black female athletes and
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make sure that they were getting the shine, kind of like your pioneers were getting the
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And I just want to know how you feel or how you respond to some of those criticisms when
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you have to deal with something that it's really not your problem.
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Like, I feel like it's them looking in a mirror a little bit, but it still comes down on your
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I feel like I always have had really good perspective on everything that's kind of happened in my
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life, whether that's been good, whether that's been bad.
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And then obviously coming to the WNBA, like I've said, I feel like I've earned every single
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thing that's happened to me over the course of my career.
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But also I grew up a fan of this league from a very young age.
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And like I said, it's only been around 25 plus years.
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So I know there's been so many amazing black women that have been in this league and continuing
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And like I said, I try to just be real and authentic and share my truth.
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And that's kind of been how it is my entire life.
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Now, we have to think about this from her point of view.
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She recently, like let's put ourselves in Caitlin Clark's shoes.
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She knows that the owners of the league are liberal women.
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She knows that all of her teammates are liberal women.
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She knows that if she sprinkles a little bit of liberal talking points here and there, maybe
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Maybe they'll actually put her on the Olympic team.
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When I think of the incentives here, I can't really blame her for starting to have this rhetoric.
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All I can say is the incentives make sense here.
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She wants to play in the WNBA for the next 20 years.
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And it would make her life 10 times easier if she just sprinkled a little bit of liberalism, pandered a little bit.
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You know, it's easy for me to say, working in media, just say what you believe, right?
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I mean, I made a career out of saying what I believe.
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And many times people go through life and they have to make a choice.
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Say what they believe and get fired from their job, miss out on opportunities,
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or shut up, pander a little bit, and make more money and have an easier life.
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And I think a lot of you guys probably relate to that in the chat.
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I'm sure many of you have been in positions where you've wanted to speak your mind.
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But you know if you speak your mind, you're going to have consequences.
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You know, so I'm a little bit more understanding on this.
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Many of you, I'm sure, will just leave the job.
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I am not doing corporate America because I'm tired of this BS.
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But for every one of you that quit, there's someone that said, you know what,
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I'm going to pander because I would rather do this than go Uber.
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Make enough money to tell them to suck my diversity.
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When he was younger, I don't, maybe he did, but as far as I remember, I don't remember him being this political.
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You know, I think he's gotten more extreme the more F you money he had.
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So next on the agenda, I have another guest that is going to come in and speak about the legal system in India.
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So as you guys know, this week I did cover a young man who took his life in India because his wife was taking him,
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or his ex-wife was taking him to court and abusing the legal system there in order to basically ruin his life.
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And he ends up with a hour and a half video detailing all of the abuse.
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And he ends up taking his life, releasing the video, and has a long suicide letter saying that he did not wish to commit suicide.
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The only reason he committed suicide was because of the court system.
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Now, this was much to my surprise because as far as I knew, or at least at one point, I believed this was more of a Western problem.
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But the more I learn about men's rights and men's issues, I see that across the globe they are discriminated against and having these kind of issues.
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So when I asked on Twitter about experts that I could bring on the show to talk about the issues in the Indian family court system,
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one of the accounts that I was referred to was the Save the Indian Family Foundation,
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the largest men's rights NGO invited by parliament.
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It says R-E-A-L-S-I-F-F is the account on Twitter.
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R-E-A-L-S-I-F- Yeah. Hi. Thanks. Thanks, Pearl, for inviting me.
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Hi. Could you tell me a little bit more about your background?
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I just have the Twitter handle maybe we could start with.
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Okay. Well, first, we created this NGO 20 years back.
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Okay. So I joined the movement in 2004, and in 2005 we created this NGO as a website.
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And, in fact, we came across, immediately we came across Dr. Warren Farrell's work, Paul Ilum, and a lot of American and Western men's activists.
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And, of course, I could meet them only in 2014 in the International Conference on Men's.
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My personal background is I worked in tech industry.
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I was an automotive software designer in Bosch, both in India and Germany.
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And I was also working as a manager in Dulac Packard in the R&D, the printer department.
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And then, of course, I quit my job and also I joined startups.
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I mean, I created my own startups, and, of course, I started running this organization, Same Indian Family Foundation.
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Was that something you went through personally?
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I went through something personally, and I got red-filled in getting that reality, what is going on.
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And I was shocked what was going on, because in those days there were mandatory arrest laws for domestic violence.
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The man's parents, his siblings, his brothers and sisters, maybe the sister's minor daughter as well.
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And everything, everybody will be thrown in prison on mere one-line or two-line complaint by a woman.
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Okay. And that is, I'm talking about 2004 or 2005.
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But here is what you, you know, what I'm explaining here that you said, right?
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There is a perception that all these radical stuff and feminism work stuff is only a Western problem,
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and feminism is really needed in India or maybe China and Africa and Middle Eastern countries.
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You know, they churn a lot of fake research about India and Southeast countries or African countries
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And then they use the United Nations to do all kinds of experimentation.
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So, for example, there is a big narrative that in India, the women, young women used to be burnt by their in-laws.
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And they called Bangalore City as the bride-burning capital.
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But then we found that that entire thing was a hoax.
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So, there are so many, so many wrong stuff or false stuff, narratives are being built.
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Like, India is being called the rape capital and all that.
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And unfortunately, people who are in right wing or conservative, even they are, you know, they buy it because it is so powerful.
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So, the way, could you tell me more about how the legal system works in India?
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So, because when I went there like a decade ago, but I didn't know too much about, you guys have different, like, states.
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I'll explain to you what way it is similar and what way it is different.
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The state, whereas in U.S.A., you go to Florida, you have one set of family laws and important things.
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The other thing is the Indian judges of Supreme Court, they retire.
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And then we don't call the state top courts as a Supreme Court.
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And so, we have a hierarchy, like the smaller courts, then a high court at the state level, only one high court per state.
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Even in a matrimonial dispute, you can go to the Supreme Court.
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You can go to the Supreme Court for a matrimonial dispute.
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You guys have different languages in different states, right?
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But, you know, India is a predominantly English...
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So, the real problem is we have 50 million pending court cases.
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So, it will take us a couple of centuries to clear all the pendency of all those cases, unless we use something like an AI in a really disruptive way, which I think is unlikely to happen.
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So, a contested divorce can take six to seven years or eight years.
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India is, by the way, India is actually not a patriarchal country or misogyny, but it is a highly gynocentric country.
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If you visited India, right, you would see directly, indirectly, women are literally worshipped.
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Of course, there is a balance, but it is not, like, completely one-sided.
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Now, the narrative often in the society is that if there is a divorce, a woman's life is destroyed.
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That is that very traditional kind of a narrative.
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That is why they expect a man to pay a huge sum of alimony.
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It can be, like, five to six times his annual income.
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By the society and by the, let's say, social people in the society, the immediate or the courts, right?
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Now, how can a man pay five to six times of his income, right?
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It will take, like, maybe 20 years to earn that money.
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Then the man is told, why don't you tell your parents to sell their properties or something and give us money?
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Otherwise, they file all these false cases of domestic violence on the man.
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So it's basically an industry, false case industry that is run by the lawyers and the judges, judicial system.
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And do you guys have the same immunity for judges and prosecutors there that we have in the U.S.?
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In fact, it's much more than, you know, I can't criticize a judge, particular judge.
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Because one thing, when I first started my show, I would have people come on and argue that, like, India was the country I would hear about the most, is they would say they don't have any of these relationship issues because their divorce rate is very, very low.
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So, is it low because it takes six years to get a divorce?
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I will clarify the data because we are doing research for so long.
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Whereas, there is a lot of fake stuff that's going on that is less than 1% because that is 20-year-old data.
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At the age of 30, you know, in my first 30 years of my life, I only knew two people who were divorced.
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I only knew two people who were divorced for 30 years of my life, till the year, let's say, 2001.
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And I will tell you, in certain groups or families or regions, divorce rate is as high as 33%.
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And so, you're saying, you know, the first half of your life, you only knew two people that got divorced.
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That had to have been, because, I mean, I've seen it in America, but my whole life, you always knew someone that was getting divorced.
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So, it wasn't, I can't imagine going through life.
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However, those people, in those days, they were not getting divorced.
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Not because, you know, the divorce laws were not friendly.
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It was not easy to get divorced or go to court.
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The other problem was that the man and the woman were financially dependent because, you know, you are surviving on each other for money, right?
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So, so, so, so, so that's how the country becomes more affluent.
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so i'm curious have dating apps affected india at all has um like are people oh no okay not really
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whether it's an arranged marriage or it is a love marriage or a dating marriage the risk of divorce
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and separation is equal oh it is okay so can you tell me a little bit more about the this case that
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we've been covering so it's received in or now i mean i'm covering and i'm in america so um do you
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see it being effective at like has it gotten attention in india like what like what has
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been the ramification of this video it has got massive attention in print media tv media the top
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tv channels uh let's say republic or india today and uh times now these are all top uh uh top tv
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channels and and cnn's equivalent cnn 18 and all that they all have covered it several days so it's
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like a top story going on for last and right now apply for anticipatory bail which may get rejected
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but you know generally uh you know for men this is not that stringent and they are quite lenient so
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the consequences for this kind of a woman are not right okay and what and there is one more ironic
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point all the false cases we filed on the on the man they will continue running against his back for
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next couple of years wow because all these false domestic cases are filed on the parents as well
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so their son is dead but the parents will be running around those codes and that's because of the dowry
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law right the there's some law with the domestic indian domestic violence law they consider the whole
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family you know because india used to have a joint family system so even india has two domestic
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violence laws by the way so one is the law related to dowry or cruelty which was actually before the
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american domestic violence law this law was passed in 1983 the american domestic violence law vava was
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passed in 1994 so we are ahead of usa and then in 2005 india got more joe biden style domestic violence
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you know law which joe biden drafted so we have two domestic violence laws okay one is one one has
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restraining orders and all that which is recent but the earlier one which is more related to dowry and
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cruelty which is 1983 yeah are are you guys seeing the same trends there when it comes to like women not
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having india okay i mean the the age of marriage of women in every decade it has shifted by four or five years
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so let's say 15 years back i will be surprised if i hear people marrying after 30 people used to get
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married i mean women used to get married around 24 25 now average woman marries 28 30 kind of so the so
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the age age of marriage of women is shifting due to a lot of government policies as well because to
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control the population they are encouraging women in this way to you know because indian population they
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are trying to control just like what they did in china okay well is there anything else that you
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think an american audience should know about india um or about this case that you think is important
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yeah about this case i would like to say that just half an hour before committing suicide he
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tweeted to elon musk and donald trump so he felt that there is some hope for men as long as
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there is elon musk and trump doing something so just imagine in a distant place like india
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there are men who are counting on them so that tweet is there in the in the i will share it so and he's
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he uploaded a video that entire video in rumble uh because he believed that no nobody will there
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will not be any censorship so so this censorship issue free speech is true and all these are universal uh
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i mean that is what we are all facing and we were all you know banned and shadow banned and
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de-platformed from many of the social media so so that's what i can say that is the problem is same
00:33:30.340
same that we are facing you know one of our supreme court chief of justice which
00:33:34.420
who just retired just now he said indian constitution is a feminist document
00:33:39.780
he said that needs a what a feminist what indian constitution is feminist the constitution is
00:33:54.660
well thank you very much he was a harvard educated he was a harvard educated you know he's a he had a
00:34:00.660
harvard phd okay so he was completely he had one really always yeah yeah he had the that's what we
00:34:08.020
see wow well thank you very much for coming on um we'll definitely have you back um for different
00:34:14.900
cases so thank you very much um and where can can you tell them where they could find you your youtube
00:34:22.500
website whatever uh we have our website saveindianfamily.org that is where most male victims land to get
00:34:30.740
support so we have telegram groups and all and our twitter id is uh real safe real s-i-f-f
00:34:38.820
uh real is real just like real donald trump and s-i-f-f uh you know s for san francisco and i and f-f
00:34:51.700
okay guys so you know a lot of times i i think that the passport bros
00:34:58.180
can sell dreams this is the commonality i've gotten from people across the world is that these
00:35:04.820
issues thing i'm going to react to was i saw an old clip from jesse lee peterson and i just thought it
00:35:11.380
was hilarious oh i hope oh i don't know if they'll copyright me dr phil mm okay guys i'm gonna do it
00:35:22.740
i'm gonna do it but if they pull the stream i'm gonna start another one i think they warn you i do
00:35:27.940
i think they warn you has been tweeting about the earth's alleged underpopulation crisis but should
00:35:34.740
we be concerned we've agreed that it's not birth rate that's kiver at least that's for sure you think
00:35:43.620
it should be people should qualify and be tested you think people should be tested you think we should
00:35:50.340
just feed them and let them age out voluntarily yeah right i mean so as a society i mean we value
00:36:00.740
freedom and the you know reproductive choice is one of those freedoms and i think the better approach
00:36:08.340
is to try to educate people um so that they're responsible when they have children and they can
00:36:14.580
care for them but i mean i think having the government getting involved in anything like
00:36:19.780
this i mean china's done that it's a disaster over there i completely agree with you about
00:36:24.900
reproductive freedom i think that's the most important thing we need today hundreds of millions
00:36:30.580
of couples are denied their right to not procreate but we uh you were mentioning how's that go ahead
00:36:37.220
how are they denied that right they do not they do not have the uh contraceptive services reproductive
00:36:43.780
health services that they need those are not uh provided and maybe people should supply their own but
00:36:51.860
they can't afford it because they're having more offspring that they can't feed where's that
00:36:57.140
just about everywhere try to get a uh sterilization here in america when you haven't had kids and you're only
00:37:04.340
22 that's true we're we're not allowing people to not breathe people like that all the time and
00:37:10.740
you can put an iud in a copper iud is effective for 10 years it's inert have you ever worked in a
00:37:16.420
grocery store and seen a a lady with a bonnet on her head with eight kids walking behind her you think
00:37:22.420
that she's being responsible you think that she's really taking into consideration what she's supposed
00:37:27.940
to do responsibly you think that she's not on section eight housing you don't think that we paying
00:37:32.660
for her to house her kids was probably going to grow up and steal my wheels off my car i uh i disagree
00:37:38.820
with all this crap that i hear i grew up with six brothers and seven sisters at a time when you know
00:37:46.820
i grew up on a plantation in alabama and we grew up in a little hut house bathroom outside and we my family
00:37:54.100
uh raised an amazing family children but what the difference was then and it is now is that you have
00:38:02.100
the father and the mother in the home and while the fathers are earning a living the mother was watching
00:38:07.460
over his children and so you were able to raise decent children we didn't have government in our
00:38:12.660
lives at the time and so we were able to do that and in america we were not allowing all these illegal
00:38:19.620
aliens and refugees to come into our country so our government we're not taking care of folks from
00:38:27.460
other parts of the world and the families in america we took care of ourselves i think you've pretty much
00:38:38.420
i don't know jesse lee peterson kills me oh he's so funny i'm gonna keep going hold on pissed off
00:38:45.060
everybody um but you you said you said there's not anything you've heard that you don't think is
00:38:53.140
crap so what do you think you said what you don't think what do you think i know that we need to
00:38:58.500
restore the family we need a smaller government because government don't make anything work they
00:39:04.500
screw you up we need to stop taking care of women who are having these babies out of wetlock right
00:39:09.540
we need to stop taking care of these women who are coming from other countries we need to stop
00:39:14.180
taking care of their babies but you need to take care of american families first by getting them
00:39:19.140
away from the government and restoring order you're a pastor right yes and you're a radio host yes okay
00:39:26.500
and you said you believe white people should have more children we definitely need white babies and i
00:39:33.620
tremble at the idea that white babies that the white uh group is going down in numbers because if you
00:39:42.100
lose white folks america it's over for america because if you notice white people tend to be more
00:39:48.260
innovative they're more creative they have ideas about things all these other races don't do nothing but
00:40:23.220
i said you'd piss off everybody i was wrong now you piss off everybody do you have a story or a
00:40:28.740
question my favorite thing was just the face of everybody in the room was so mad
00:40:42.260
my producer says the face of the white dude was like what did i do
00:40:46.020
i'm just saying being white's awesome we don't we don't get i don't i
00:40:56.580
he's funny he's funny okay so the next thing i wanted to give you guys an update on yeah but then
00:41:04.740
they can get to is apparently this woman now the new so i got a text this afternoon
00:41:11.300
afternoon and you guys know the woman i've been telling you about that she had sex with a hundred
00:41:17.780
men now she's looking to have sex with a thousand men well apparently she was on my show last year
00:41:26.100
and mind you sometimes these panels i really try to block out because they were really exhausting but
00:41:33.380
i actually do remember this show um i don't know why i literally forgot about her so she must not
00:41:39.460
have been that entertaining um but this was her on my show a year ago yeah but then they can get
00:41:46.500
to know the new 22 year old yeah yeah but not all guys not all guys fancy fresh me sure they'll
00:41:53.940
they'll get to know the 40 year old no some guys have vegetables for older women like i'm curious
00:42:00.020
what do you guys make a month on only fans personally i don't like to say same okay is it over six figures
00:42:06.100
a month yeah okay is it over six figures i just said i'm not saying okay um so did you you don't
00:42:13.940
want to why does every time i come on a podcast everyone always asks me asks that question don't
00:42:18.500
they we want to know we want to know what i'm actually quite amazing yeah yeah it's it's enough
00:42:24.260
i wouldn't do it if it wasn't enough like charges more than she does per month the brunette charges more
00:42:28.660
than the blonde per month so if she's working six figures she's got to be in it logically it depends on
00:42:33.220
like following and stuff like that and like obviously you do a little bit less like that
00:42:38.180
it just depends um i mean i don't face my arsehole but if you want to see that subscribe
00:42:46.820
i had enough i spoke to enough hookers in a year that i think i'm permanently traumatized you know
00:42:52.900
what go to my go to the audacity network.com because i did that for you i love you guys you
00:42:59.140
know i really like to put in an entertaining show but my god that was a long year of my life so go to
00:43:06.180
the audacity network.com monthly or your yearly membership pearl you got blackpilled i really did
00:43:14.260
i really did you know i'll tell you what because we have this idea that these are special women this
00:43:22.740
will never happen to anybody you know none of the people in your life this is just crazy city behavior
00:43:30.100
but most of these women were from small towns and good families lily phillips
00:43:36.740
her she her parents talk to her every day she's from upper class family in england
00:43:42.420
and i would just see woman after woman that would be christian muslim small town big town
00:43:52.340
and yeah blackpilled me it really did um okay so next on the agenda uh we are going to be
00:44:01.780
reacting to a debate that i saw on youtube and what i noticed is
00:44:09.220
hold on guys um what i noticed is oftentimes we think there's a big difference between
00:44:21.300
conservative and liberal women and i don't really see much of a difference in the two
00:44:33.060
and many times we think that there are these special women that are different but when it comes to life
00:44:40.820
choices it's pretty much the same thing um let me where did i get this
00:44:50.260
oh here okay so let me pull okay this is the debate i wanted to react to okay
00:45:10.180
know where i'm coming from on this and i'm very excited for this break this is our final episode
00:45:14.500
of season two so sit back relax and let's dive into one last memory also for a second i'm going to
00:45:21.460
react to the youtube comments uh one says thanks pearl pearl for bringing on siff by the way
00:45:27.540
ai engineer was paid was by his wife to pay 2400 per month per maintenance besides paying 360
00:45:36.100
thousand dollars one-time payment fazelle says jesse lee peterson says nothing about the truth if
00:45:41.780
you guys have a question comment or concern go to the audacity network dot com ten dollars a month
00:45:46.260
80 bucks a year just be a part of the live chat thank you memorable opposing views discussion together
00:45:50.980
and it's a really good one you guys stay tuned for updates on what's coming next for season three
00:45:55.300
by hitting the subscribe button and the notification story and what led you to
00:45:59.140
being passionate about this topic i'll ask you first yeah so um right now i'm a physician but
00:46:06.100
when my content started and i started being a lot more vocal about feminism women's rights kind of
00:46:12.420
that whole sphere um it started because of the texas um sb8 which was the um six-week abortion ban
00:46:21.460
and i woke up one day as a med student at the time and just like really frustrated and really angry about it
00:46:28.740
and tiktok is the place that people go to vent those kinds of opinions um and so i just was like you
00:46:34.660
know what i have an opinion and i have to say something and it was a good outlet um and that
00:46:38.980
video went viral and i was not expecting it to at all um because i didn't have a platform at all and
00:46:44.660
so then i kind of just fed off of um comments and interaction and i was like well i have opinions if
00:46:51.140
y'all want to hear them and so then it kind of just snowballed and now i'm really passionate about
00:46:55.220
being as good as a advocate as i can be awesome my name is isabel brown i am a full-time content creator
00:47:02.260
and i host a live stream every day where we talk about a whole host of issues not just women's
00:47:07.140
related topics and conversations but what's going on on tiktok politics uh religion dating the whole
00:47:13.620
nine and i never expected that this would be something i did for a career i too actually was
00:47:17.940
pre-med way back in the day and have a few degrees in biomedical sciences in graduate school more on
00:47:22.900
the public policy side women in the process it's why you're watching women become so controversial in
00:47:29.220
and of itself we have a supreme court justice in the united states who can't answer the question
00:47:33.700
what is a woman uh you're watching women's rights advocates claim that the best trajectory for women
00:47:39.860
moving into the future is in fact disintegrating what we would understand women okay so i want you guys
00:47:45.460
to pay attention the non-feminists claim to care about family but they refuse to take away the
00:47:55.220
incentives or argue about the incentives that are destroying the family they'll go back and forth
00:48:00.740
about abortion the men in the women's locker rooms all this bs that let's be honest abortion's going
00:48:11.300
nowhere uh the ladies did that to themselves the men in the women's locker rooms i mean the ladies
00:48:18.820
they're the ones who pushed that so i i don't feel bad at all movements applaud men taking over women's
00:48:24.100
spaces and calling it inclusivity in society rather than what it is which is just frankly misogyny so
00:48:30.180
i wouldn't necessarily identify with the post-modern fourth wave feminist movement we find ourselves in
00:48:35.780
today but feminism historically has done amazing work for women and truly brought us to the now the early feminists
00:48:44.500
bombed places specifically appreciate and would identify with fourth wave feminism because i think it's
00:48:50.900
essential to recognize that we are three white privileged women sitting here having this conversation
00:48:56.500
and a really big part of fourth wave feminism is the recognition of intersectionality and so sure
00:49:02.420
there might not be legal barriers to opportunities to us now but there are still very much different
00:49:10.020
prejudices and stigmas against women especially when it comes to being working moms and things like that
00:49:15.220
um and when it comes to again different identities when it comes to women of color um women in poverty
00:49:21.940
it's recognizing that they also need to be supported and they also need to be seen and when it comes to
00:49:29.140
things like our unpaid way feminism is really trying to bring awareness to because it's so much easier to
00:49:34.660
ignore what do you think about that that's an interesting thought i'd be curious to know how you are seeing
00:49:40.660
these prejudices continue to exist against women if in fact they're not legally structurally in in
00:49:46.660
place in america today how are those manifesting from your point of view yeah so things like the
00:49:52.260
gender wage gap so women are still um earning less than men with the same degrees with the same positions
00:49:59.780
um women also get questioned more often when they try to balance work and parenthood um things like
00:50:05.460
that when it comes to just the opportunity to do what you want to do with your life you want to
00:50:09.380
have the same opportunities as men both financially and from the perspective of just like the societal
00:50:15.860
appearance of what you're choosing where men have a lot more freedom to not be constrained by gender
00:50:22.420
norms when it comes to their life choices if they don't want children or they don't want to be married
00:50:26.820
a lot of people don't question that a lot of people are just like yeah that makes sense you know but
00:50:30.420
when a woman chooses that there's a lot of that sort of stigma behind it of like oh well surely like
00:50:35.940
you'll change your mind surely that's what everyone would want and so that's what i mean when i say
00:50:40.820
there's that stigma and there's that pressure pushing against women who want to go outside the
00:50:46.420
traditional gender norms of what we would think women should want for ourselves that's so interesting
00:50:51.140
because truthfully i encounter the exact opposite in spending my time online or on college campuses
00:50:56.580
or with women's organizations if anything i think our postmodern society has built a very strong
00:51:01.940
stigma against traditional gender norms you look at every headline in cosmopolitan magazine for example
00:51:08.500
encouraging women to not have children to not get married notice the language the language is still
00:51:13.700
society's making me do this it's almost as if we're children right well society is shaming us for
00:51:23.060
choosing this or society's encouraging us to do this no nothing's stopping us three percent of gen z women
00:51:32.260
are married and isabella you know she just got married in her late 20s okay not wrong not wrong not
00:51:41.780
good not bad but it's not traditional right to be as promiscuous as possible and never to be committed
00:51:49.300
and the other girl i'm pretty sure she's engaged during a long-term living relationship i i don't
00:51:54.980
know her as well um i just know isabella's because i made um a spreadsheet collecting data from
00:52:01.780
conservative women to track if their age of marriage number of kids was any different than liberal and it's
00:52:07.620
pretty much it's it's the same it's the same their personal dating relationships uh the surgeon general of
00:52:16.340
the united states of america a few weeks ago actually issued an official declaration that parenting is
00:52:22.740
theoretically hazardous for your health because it might make you more lonely than if you never had
00:52:28.660
children to begin with which was an odd train of thought to begin with and not incredibly logical so
00:52:34.180
you're watching the establishment media you're watching establishment health care and physicians
00:52:39.140
you're watching college campuses your favorite celebrities hollywood influencers all strategically
00:52:44.740
peddle this narrative for women that the only way to be an empowered enlightened woman in 2024
00:52:51.300
is to abandon tradition to abandon gender norms to abandon femininity in many ways uh and certainly
00:52:58.500
to never get married or have children so that is interesting that there is that tug of war still in america
00:53:03.300
but i certainly think today gender norms are what the stigma happens to be rather than buffing gender
00:53:09.940
i wish we could talk less in the abstract and i could get more specifics right like what what does that mean
00:53:17.140
in real life like what does that mean in your life like when were you pushed one way or another
00:53:26.980
who pushed you so okay let's say it was your school who picked the school
00:53:34.100
um you don't have to go to college right that's a choice
00:53:41.300
i understand maybe under 18 but after 18 it's you're an adult
00:53:48.820
your norms but it's interesting you bring up the gender wage gap you know this is a conversation we've had for years
00:53:54.980
and years and years in the united states and certainly historically has been true decades and decades and decades ago
00:54:00.020
but there have been countless studies proving that the gender pay gap does not exist when you account
00:54:05.060
for different career choices working full-time versus part-time uh the census data that typically
00:54:10.500
accounts for this 84 cents on the dollar 84 percent figure even goes so far as to skew the numbers that
00:54:16.180
teachers you know first primary and secondary teachers who are overwhelmingly three-quarters female
00:54:21.380
who work 38 weeks out of the year they do the math that they work 52 weeks out of the year to make
00:54:26.580
it seem like they're earning substantially less money than men uh but that all is obviously so
00:54:33.860
i understand there's a time and a place for data i'm not saying
00:54:42.020
i'm trying to be careful with my words i'm not saying data is wrong or bad to use
00:54:47.860
but when making a point i always like to use real life examples that other people can
00:54:53.700
think about if they're true or not in their life and the challenge we're going to get is she's going
00:55:02.740
to cite a study and it's going to say her point and the other woman's going to cite a study and it's
00:55:09.060
going to say her point and the challenge with data is a lot of times they get their funding from either
00:55:15.620
traditional conservative organizations that's where you get all the michael knolls
00:55:19.540
um daily wire stats that are pushing uh marriage right because they're institutes that again that's
00:55:27.460
their thing they're like christian organization then the liberals they have their left-leaning organizations
00:55:35.460
and if you get results that go against your ideology
00:55:40.900
um that's the challenge i have with data right i'm not saying it's bad or good we can look at each
00:55:50.740
study but i prefer to know how it's affected your life right not true has been proven to be wrong over
00:55:59.460
and over again and interestingly is statistically dramatically changing because when you look at the
00:56:04.740
careers women are choosing in the norms of 2024 let's look at medicine for example you're a physician a
00:56:10.660
first-year resident historically in the 1960s only eight percent of med students were females
00:56:16.180
today over 50 percent of medical students are females and that's terrifying
00:56:33.220
i'm not saying medicine's gonna go downhill i'm not gonna say that because i can't
00:56:40.660
i'm not i'm not yeah so i've actually read the complete opposite studies from the studies that
00:56:46.820
i've read um specifically when people men and women are in the same role so a managerial role or
00:56:53.460
supervising role women make less than men in the exact same roles same with people who have advanced
00:56:58.580
degrees so masters or doctorates women who have the same degrees as men will statistically make less
00:57:03.700
money than men with those same degrees so we're reading different studies and living in different
00:57:07.780
realities it seems but when i want to really go back to what you were saying about the media and
00:57:14.180
everyone pushing women to not get married and not have children and demonizing this sense of tradition and
00:57:21.780
to be clear i'm pro-choice in all different ways and i believe when i see the media pushing these things
00:57:27.940
i don't see it demonizing the traditional way of life i don't see it demonizing you know people who want
00:57:33.700
to homeschool or who want to be stay-at-home moms i see it as them opening the you know opportunities
00:57:39.860
for women to choose what they want to do because historically women have been told that if you don't
00:57:45.300
want to be a stay-at-home mom if you don't want to dedicate your entire life and being to your children
00:57:49.860
and family then you are wrong and you're going to be unhappy and so now the media is kind of
00:57:54.340
swinging that pendulum which like admittedly pendulums swing a little bit too far before they normalize
00:57:59.060
right and i'm not saying i have anything wrong with it but i think that what the media and what
00:58:03.380
okay this idea that things are going to swing back it's them selling you hope and that's a whole
00:58:13.060
business it's selling you hope right no usually trends just is in the united states 90 percent of people
00:58:22.900
were farmers up until the 1900s like it i actually have it on here hold on i pulled this up earlier um
00:58:36.580
so i don't know what they they keep saying that you know they supported men's dreams or whatever
00:58:42.900
you know i don't think most of men's dreams was to be a farmer because the the day they got the option
00:58:48.820
to not be farmers a lot of men said i'm not doing that anymore so that's the detail they keep skipping
00:58:58.420
over is that you know yes the women stayed home with the kids but they had more kids to help on the farm
00:59:10.180
so i don't know what like his other option was factory worker and coal miner
00:59:18.820
what dreams was he if he wasn't born into an aristocratic class and or ran for office
00:59:28.420
what dreams did he have okay i'm gonna continue
00:59:40.660
people are really trying to portray is that you do not have to fall into this historical role
00:59:46.180
you can date around you can choose to not get married you can choose to not have kids and all
00:59:51.380
of those things are valid and for the longest part of history women were seeing the exact opposite
00:59:56.820
messaging we're encouraged to you know marry whoever and have kids because that's what makes you happy
01:00:02.740
and a lot of our grandmothers and mothers were like oh guess what it didn't make me happy and they're
01:00:07.460
encouraging the younger generation now this is something that conservatives think is untrue when
01:00:14.900
they say my mother and grandmother um told me or the the women of the past weren't as happy as they say
01:00:26.820
i have to agree with them and i'll tell you why so when i was doing my shows i would get people that
01:00:34.180
came from seemingly more traditional countries um nigeria was one i could think of zimbabwe is another um
01:00:45.860
countries that were a little bit more traditional say than the west as we saw before
01:00:53.300
gynocentrism is a problem among everywhere but one thing that i often heard from
01:01:00.900
the daughters that migrated to the uk because a lot of immigrants came to the uk in the last like
01:01:08.180
50 years so a lot of them were second generation
01:01:12.100
they would tell me that the reason that they chose to go to school and not prioritize marriage was
01:01:19.060
because their mother told them not to and i just heard that too many times from women that didn't know
01:01:26.260
each other the mothers would be married 30 40 50 years and they would still tell their daughters to
01:01:32.340
wait to get married or not to do it at all uh so what am i supposed to do with that i don't know i
01:01:39.940
don't think that's like a nice conclusion i think a lot more women trashed their husbands than we like
01:01:45.700
to admit but it kind of lines up with what we're seeing now i don't think people of the past were so
01:01:50.980
different than the people of today there's just more incentives and choice now so
01:01:59.140
yeah okay i'm gonna keep going to make whatever choices make them happy
01:02:04.500
namely because statistically even today married women with children are overwhelmingly self-reporting
01:02:09.700
themselves to be the happiest in society we're over correcting in so many ways for maybe potentially
01:02:15.940
flawed narratives of the past or incomplete narratives of the past now again i gotta look at choices i don't
01:02:24.900
think women are as monogamous as we once thought and the reason i think that is because the second that
01:02:32.980
women got to choose non-monogamy too many women chose it you know if you pull men and women on
01:02:39.540
if waiting till marriage for example is important to them more men rank that as important than women
01:02:53.220
are married women with children the happiest probably but
01:02:58.740
it doesn't really i don't think that stat shows fully because you're not taking into account the
01:03:10.260
women that were married and had children and chose to leave right like the divorcees so it's almost like
01:03:16.180
a cheater stat i don't i don't know i don't know if i'm making sense but okay the past which we call
01:03:22.020
a pendulum shift but honestly looks a whole lot more like propaganda to me when we're inventing
01:03:26.580
right and this is the thing they both have propaganda they both do the right and the left
01:03:31.380
it's equal okay the left has a little bit more pull so you know the left has more but
01:03:37.140
the right wants men to get married and they want men to fix society because again it scares them what
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they're going to do with all these single women and if men don't keep taking bad deals society will fall
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apart um you know if men are treated poorly by the military let's say and enough men say you know
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what i'm not doing this that becomes a problem for everybody if men say you know what i'm not getting
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married anymore well that becomes a problem for businesses because women love to spend so men make
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the money women spend it this isn't even discounted because we have tick tocks of men and women saying my
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money is my money his money is our money so this isn't even discounted right then on top of that
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politicians need the birth rate to come up they don't know what to do if men say you know what i'm not
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having kids with these late they're terrified so both sides have incentive to lie realities that don't
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reflect indicative in normal society the family stability society i can't remember the exact
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group that ran this study but from 2023 found that 40 percent of women who are married with children
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self-report their lives to be incredibly overwhelmingly happy only 22 percent of unmarried women with
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children feel the exact same way so well and the question i have is at what age
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at what age are they pulling the women because a 25 year old hot woman i can't think of anybody on the
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planet that has a better life a 55 year old ex-hot women woman i can't think of anybody else that has a
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worse life because she had that amazing life and now it's gone forever and she'll never get it back
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it's not really manifesting in society the exact same way that we're seeing overwhelmingly portrayed
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in these headlines in movies and tv shows and studies conducted by academia and what's said by
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presidential candidates of the united states so it seems to me this isn't so much of a societal pendulum
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shift as it is an overwhelming narrative that is being pushed onto the next generation to convince them
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hey i know this is what's being proven in society this is probably what's going to make you happy
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just because that's how we've done things in the past we can never consider that moving into the
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future because we have to be progressive for the sake of being progressive trust me we can all use a
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little support when it comes yeah you are not plugging your ad on my stream hell no we're reading different
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statistics because again i've read many statistics that show that typically mothers and people again
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this is why i don't love statistics because they're gonna go back and forth my stats your stats how did
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you conduct this study da da da da da i prefer good faith conversations about what we've seen in our
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actual lives so you know my question is are your parents married and are they happy did you have
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friends growing up are they still married and are they happy did they have a relationship that you would
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want now does everyone want to answer that honestly on camera i don't know but yeah data can be manipulated
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and what generalizations do people which i can't make on youtube um can people relate to you know
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what generalizations can we make and people say oh i relate with that who give birth are more likely
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to suffer from mental health conditions than women who do not because it is more of a stressor there's
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all of that unpaid work unpaid labor and unseen mental load that women have to carry and we also have
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to look at the way that these surveys are asked because a lot of times the questions that are asked
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are asked in a certain way that want to get a certain answer from them and if you don't believe me right
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look at all the traditional conservatives on twitter begging lily to find god
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the stuff is biased right both ways you um but i think again when you see progression and you see
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progressive ideas you see it as people pushing that idea as the only correct way where i just view it
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differently i see it as opening up opportunities for people and recognizing that all of the these
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different ways of life are valid and again through history like historically women have been given these
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very narrow options and told and when we talk about propaganda right i see that as propaganda i see
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it as propaganda to say that you will not be happy unless you have a family and children because
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for a lot of people that is not true and that's also not necessarily a choice if you don't meet
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the right person or you get stuck with the wrong person you know it's it doesn't necessarily mean
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that you are going to be happy and so many of our mothers and grandmothers have told us this did not
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make me happy it wasn't the marriage itself it was the person so ensure that you are you know aiming
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for an equal partnership and what we found to be by our dang selves i i don't make the rules i didn't make
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this world okay but all the data that's what it indicates and you know make sure that you are
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choosing your partner wisely because women have not been given that opportunity women have not been
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you know encouraged to really make those intentional choices it's always been about checking a box
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instead of living life intentionally yeah and look i think the spectrum of human happiness obviously
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is a subjective conversation to have it depends on the individual it certainly depends on one
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in one day i could feel happy in the morning and mad at night so am i happy person or an unhappy person
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um like happiness is a feeling i don't think it's a state so i don't really like studies that use
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happiness because how do you measure it um and like what does that even mean
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circumstances i hope joy is something people continue to choose no matter what their circumstances
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are but that speaks more largely to the mental health of our population what i what i do have a
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problem with is not the expectation that people can make different decisions for their life based on
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their individual circumstances or their own personal autonomy it's this idea that the narrative we are
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being pushed every single day by the machine whatever you want to call that government health
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care uh media and everything in between seems to be overwhelmingly convincing you in whatever way
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shape or form that what we understand to be traditionalism is wrong that marriage is wrong
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in fact having children is wrong that we're sitting here in los angeles filming the los angeles times a few
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weeks ago had a headline saying you are an inherently selfish person if you want to have a child and they were
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making this claim because even now seems like it's going to get worse not better i don't want to say worse but
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like it's going to continue going that way there's no data that indicates it's going any other way
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so anybody that's saying that's an option for most people is selling dreams that's what they're doing
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and i think it's tough because you know it's not something it's tough to accept right because that's
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what we've seen on tv that's what you know we grew up around but the world is changing unfortunately the
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cat's out of the bottle i don't see anything that indicates it's going the other way i see zero evidence
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to indicate it's going to go that way not this way okay um rob said i can't say there's a certain
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someone who isn't as bright as men not gonna say it um i can't rob also said on the website which if
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you guys want to comment um question comment or concern you go to the audacity network.com links
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in the description 10 bucks a month 80 bucks a year you get me to read your comments during shows
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rob says i knew a coal miner that later became a medical transcriber i worked with residents and
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nurses almost continuously specifics are important alexander said the dadvocate and roma army said
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on stream they would be fine with porn stars and of chicks becoming the teacher of their kids because
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they wouldn't want to judge a woman based on her sexual history even some of the most based women in
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the space still have feminist tendencies modern society because it's viewed as the opposite of
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progressivism when in reality that's just not making people happy we're in the midst of the biggest
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mental health crisis of all time in western society certainly within the context of gen z and for the first
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time ever young women are actually struggling with more mental health conditions okay notice
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right there they she took a man's problem and made it about women if i google who commits suicide more
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males die by suicide more frequently this discrepancy is known as the gender paradox in suicide
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so again you have both the both women right one's claiming traditionalism but they make all of the problems
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that affect men they make about women they completely do it so if there's a men's mental health
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crisis it's what about women's issues and young men they are statistically much more likely to be
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anxious to be depressed the cdc found that in 2021 one in three teenage girls seriously contemplated
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taking her own life i want to see how bad the discrepancy is because
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male versus fail female men make up 80 percent of suicides we're talking about women's mental health
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80 percent of suicides and we're saying but women have the mental health issues it's women women women
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like it drives me nuts drives me crazy and it's so and i don't like she probably just memorizes
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talking points i don't i don't know how much like in debt like the stuff she's saying is stuff
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conservatives really cared about traditionalism they would get rid of the systems that punish men
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for being traditional they would and that would be their number one issue but they do not care about
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it they don't because they spend a million hours talking about men and women's sports abortion all this
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white noise that distracts from the real issues because they make money off of women so you have to
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pander and say oh but women's mental health women's because the female even conservatives get paid by women
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i'd have a million subscribers on the you know i would have a billion subscribers on the website if
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i just pandered to women you guys are lucky i have integrity because if i steve harveyed it oh my gosh
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you would be rich you would be rich hard for me to wrestle with this idea that we claim to live in
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the most progressive society in human history where anything is possible and you can do whatever you
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want and there are no consequences to your actions and you can make your life brick by brick exactly
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what you want it to be yet we're devoid in society of purpose and meaning and fulfillment entirely
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which is why we end up feeling so lost now all right you go ahead and reply and then i have another
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question for you guys yeah so i actually disagree that we're devoid of purpose because i think the entire
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purpose of deviating from this idea that motherhood and wifehood are the key identifiers of a woman
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i feel like that is what devoids women of purpose and this idea that you can achieve whatever you
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want and you can be whatever you want is the intention of that is to help women find their
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purpose because so many people had to put their dreams and desires aside to lift up the men in their
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life and now we're saying first coal miners and factory workers i think by the 1940s 40 of men were
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factory workers but 1800s at one point 90 of men were farmers
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i think we see i think we see things on tv sometimes and we just think all the like a man's
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life is just easy they just put on a suit go to work wolf of wall street it but they gotta stop
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giving us movies they gotta we we see the movies and we just we think it's nothing that the men just
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go to work don't do anything and get a bunch of money and status yeah the opportunity and we want