Marriage In 2022
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In this episode, we discuss monogamy, child support and child support in post-marriage societies. We also discuss why men have been scared away from the idea of monogamy and why this is bad for society.
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speaking of speaking of marriage um i wanted to know do you think we're in a post-marriage society
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because on one hand um we hear that women should wait till they're married to have sex but at the
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same time we also hear from the men that they don't want to get married anymore
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so what do we do with that seems like it's true because nowadays a lot of people are looking at
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marriage as a contract rather than a partnership and there's a huge difference between that because
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with a contract there are so many terms and many headaches and this and i know it is it is a
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contract well yeah that's why yeah but that's because that is what it is now because realistically
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the traditional sense of marriage is not a contract really in terms of the law once the law is involved
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that's when everything went tits up i think yeah so the problem is is that there's zero advantage
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to marriage in the western world for a man there is zero statistical advantage if you use your mind
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if you use your head instead of your heart and you look at the advantages to getting married there
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are absolutely not really none because this new idea of new age feminism just basically destroys
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all men in the idea or in the event of her leaving and and it's very common that women leave right
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let's let's stop the man versus woman attack etc etc life's difficult for everybody we all have
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different challenges different things to go through but if a woman marries a man and it goes wrong
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she has emotional heartbreak fine but if a man marries a woman and it goes wrong he has emotional
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heartbreak plus everything he has ever worked for is ripped out from underneath him and he has to
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give that chick money forever in some places you don't even have to be married exactly that's why
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the men don't want to live with the women either that's right so when you make these rules and these
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laws right under the guise of feminism and equality all this garbage all you're doing is scaring men
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away from commitment and then you have to add in the other hidden element and the other hidden element
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is what i said earlier is whose fault a lot this is is promiscuous women right so in society is
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broken down if women were saying if all women got together and said we'll only have sex after
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marriage guess what men would do get married but you don't right so now you're in miami i go miami
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i can fuck anything in the club i don't have to marry any of them if i marry them i get wrecked
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so like let's all use our brains here what am i gonna do well i'm gonna be like well no bounce see
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uh no no so men have been scared away from the idea of marriage and that's a law that is the fault of this
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new law and this new feminism and this new crap they don't give men any tactical advantage and
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i'm talking about small things a man's not even allowed to be a man in his own house you know in
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england you will get accused of emotional abuse i can marry a woman not lay a hand on her i can just
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raise my voice to her that's emotional abuse i can raise my voice to her because she's going out
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drinking with dudes she can go out drinking six nights a week with men and i can say what the
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fuck you're my wife sit down she can call the cops call me emotionally abusive i get arrested
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now now there's a court case against me i have to go to court and defend myself she'll divorce me
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take my house i have to sell my car because she's drinking vodka with fucking god knows who but you
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know it's what do you think what do you think of child support and that's another interesting
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thing because a lot of these arguments it's it's it goes beyond man and woman and it goes into the
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the larger sphere as a whole right because we talked earlier about war and how a lot of men
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used to die and that doesn't happen anymore so what you used to have in societies and i'm not saying i
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have all the answers i'm just commenting right what you used to have in societies is a bunch of men would
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die at war because men have more dangerous lives than women there'd be a bunch more women than men the
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top g's would impregnate a bunch of women and the top g's could take care of the women and that'd be
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etc etc that's now changed right so the reason a lot of the reason that monogamy is pushed is because
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it's good for society and it is good for society it's good for society as a whole to have a man
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a woman a family together the man provides for the woman etc the government doesn't want to pay for
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all these kids if you don't have child support who's paying for these kids the government does
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it it breaks down right so that's why child support is enforced in many parts of the world
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in certain other parts of the world child support isn't enforced because they have religious beliefs
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or genuine genuine family beliefs that keep the families together but in the western world
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now you need child support because you've broken things down to the point where men don't want to be
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married to chicks chicks don't want to listen to the man the man can't even be the man in his own
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household he can't even feel respected where he goes his woman gives him no status and and now he
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doesn't want to deal with her anymore so how do you get that kid paid for well then tell the man or you
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go to jail and you just come along with a long arm of the law and you him and so yeah it's difficult
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it's hard to answer yeah but it's hard to answer the true answer to all of it is an idealistic answer
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i don't like to think idealistically and talk idealistically but it's the truth
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the true answer to it is to instill in the man a sense of duty in which he wants to take care of
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his woman regardless because that's his child but you will do that i'll tell you how you do that you
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do that by inspiring out of the man by being a very good woman so i'll give you an example if i had a
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child with a woman and she was always a great woman to me she was never she never cheated on me she was
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a good woman to me and i was running around being whatever and she's like look i just can't put up with
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you anymore you're top g you're gonna do what you're gonna do i'm gonna look after your kid
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i'm gonna you can see him anytime you want i care about you please don't leave me in poverty
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i'd say cool 100 i'm not i'm not a fucking dickhead cool that's a real man though because i was in a
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situation just yeah but i was just in a situation like that to where it's like hearts don't break
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even and that's the reality too it's like if those morals and principles are not instilled in a man
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none of that shit matters so obviously the child support stuff obviously hits close home to me
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because i'm already 50 000 it's just in lawyer fees trying to get him to provide yeah you know
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what i mean and it sucks because it's like you playing the nba like why couldn't you why don't
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you want to do more and it's just because again of the relationship it's personal it's not about
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our personal that's right so it's like yeah if you're not so i just i just feel like it's like
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why do you get money for making a poor choice well it wasn't a poor choice because it was
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i'm not trying to like disrespect you in any way it's just like if you left and so it's like
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why do you get money for it just right because we because we made a commitment so we made at the
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end of the day we made a commitment we have a forever commitment fuck marriage we're we are
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forever family so again as someone who is literally going through this if i made more money than him i
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would be paying him child support and that would be fair to me but this is what's really interesting
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what's truly interesting is if you go to other countries and i'm talking about civilized countries
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right if you go to poland or czech republic or whatever these countries which are in many
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metrics more civilized than the west they're safer to live in they're cleaner etc there's no child
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support laws so if you have a divorce the man just takes care of the woman because that's his kid and
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that's just what he's supposed to do and that's just it so what you're saying is he you're right
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about the man having the morality instilled inside of them and my point is that the reason a lot of
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this doesn't exist the reason men don't have morality installed in them is not just about the
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individual case of the man it's about society as a whole it's about women as a whole men as
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a whole the dating game as a whole the life he's living as a whole and and it's and this is the
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world we live in this is why i was talking about how dangerous new think is because now we have this
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new think this new world and we're living in this new world and the truth is as a man now you're the
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game has changed in the game of chess sometimes it's not about winning it's about making sure you don't
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lose if you can not lose if you could not blunder any pieces and protect your king long enough you'll win
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the game and there's a lot of men who are now like okay how do i not lose well you know what
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i become fucking ruthless that's how i don't lose i get i get all my sex because the women are
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promiscuous i get laid as much as i want i don't let anyone fucking tie me into anything dumb any
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bitch wants to get fresh to me or fucking talk to another dude i cut her off financially but and
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you just get ruthless so you don't lose the game but that's because the game's been rigged against men
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so the harder you rig the game against us the more ruthless we're gonna have to be to compete
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and that's it's unfortunate i'm not saying i have the answers i'm just saying why men do what they do
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say with regards to brittany i just think that with regards to child support you've got a kid
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you look after it hey and i do no not you the men oh i was like i do look after my son okay i was
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like no that's why i said no that's what i said with regards to the child support that's what i first
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said i think that you have a kid that you should look after it i don't agree that i don't agree with
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men giving the women money but i think it's disgusting that a man can have a child and not support it so so
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do i but this is another thing so this is this is the comments we have to make right because we don't
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have all the answers we have to make the comments on it this goes into the deeper point every time
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a court rules in favor of a chick having a hundred thousand dollars a month that puts men off to a
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level like it's fine if there was a baseline child support thousand dollars a month two thousand dollars
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a month that's if you have a kid baseline regardless of income if your man wants to give you more he
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does if he doesn't whatever whatever but when you come along start saying this percent of a man's
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income do you have any idea how scary that is to a man who works for his money he works for his money
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and you know why it's scary it's not just because he's giving his money away it's because he knows
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he isn't giving money to the kid yeah the kid you can raise a kid on 500 bucks a month in most of the
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world you want that kid in gucci you in gucci you in a nice car going on dates with another dude
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with my money you can i'd rather burn the house down than give it to you under the
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i just think it incentivizes poor decisions like i haven't gotten pregnant by someone but like you
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so much but i'm saying but like you're gonna you're gonna pay someone who's done that like why
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did they get okay i'm literally telling you that what if i made more money than him i would have no
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problem paying for my child and their child child support laws vary in different states so in north
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carolina for instance if you make over combined over 300 000 a year then you are considered off the
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grid so then you have to prove this is how much my your rent is any bill that my son occupies i get a
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percent that i get a percentage of so on the low end it would be 50 if there's a big enough salary
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gap it could be up to 97 and the court the judge gets to decide what makes the most sense so if my
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child's father makes 20 million dollars a year from basketball he gets to decide if six thousand
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dollars is a lot if eight thousand or ten thousand whatever but you have to prove that so it's not
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like you just it's enough money for a chanel bag like these are a my son watches peppa pig that's a
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part of that's a cable bill you know what i mean so it's it's a percentage of everything so you're not
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like just living living it up you're just living so you're able to there's a roof over your son's head
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my whole point is like it's all down to choices and the man made a choice too because i can't get
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pregnant unless he nuts in me i i understand that but i'm then there's nothing to argue you're the
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one that's only you're in in control of who gets born abortion's legal okay as soon as as soon as
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as soon as he nuts it's completely out of his control listen can i just say something though
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advocate that i had a i had my child and me and the dad went together and i didn't take a penny from
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him and the government wanted me to but i decided that no it was better off that my child i look
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after him myself anything he wants to give his son if he wanted to is extra but i worked hard and i've
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done it all on my own because it was just less because it's this headache it's this no and i know
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a lot of women that went that route that is you you have to think that he's not going to be a man
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and take care of his child don't you think that's unfair on you no because he's my child and he's happy
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now giving him what he wants as well he made that child that's why i don't need a man but the whole
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point is you choose who you sleep with listen right as far as he chooses as well that's the thing
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yeah this is this is it's to the tango what are we talking about i'm saying right now it's not
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fair because women have abortion that's legal it's not legal for them oh they get no saying
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they get no saying and the same thing with birth i mean i could have done i could have done but
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it wasn't worth my time you can get an iud it's like 99.100 but what if the man wanted the child
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though that's exactly my point so i was on birth my whole point my point i i think he should i think
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he should take care of it but i just don't agree with having legal incentives for women to leave
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that's my point he should give you money for the kid if you have a kid you should but i just don't
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agree with with see but the thing is if men stood up and became fathers to their children women wouldn't
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but if women choose differently if women but it starts but it starts we're in control we're in
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control of who we sleep with so at the end of the day but that's not the point because if you pick
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if you but you but you pick who you sleep with so you pick a guy that's getting girls pregnant left
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and right but she doesn't know that he's not gonna be there she doesn't know that if she married him
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she'd be all right she trusted this man to be a father to a child and now she's left with a child and
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no one's gonna support her marion don't you think that's something she's married in first i mean
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you can get married you can get married that's what i'm saying it's just like marriage is what
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solves problems are you guys not what i'm trying to say marriage will solve her financial problems
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please don't cut me off this is the problem yeah stop acting like every woman that leaves a marriage
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and gets divorced is because she's this and she's that there's a lot of women that suffer and they
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actually need the support and the legal incentives so that they know when they leave somebody can back
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them up because they'll be on their own stop acting like men are angels because there's a lot
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of men that are dealing with a lot of the traumas that they have from a man's world being difficult
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the same way that andrew tate explained a man's world is highly competitive men are out there
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suffering it is hard to be a man and a lot of the time the person takes the brunt of it is the woman
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so yes she's well within her right to leave take her child and be in a better place and the
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government should step in to make sure that that man that made her make that decision steps in for their
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kid can i say wait the time that she takes to take care of the child is the time that she doesn't
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have to go to work so she's already done on income and she's having to be taking care of the child on
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own that don't make sense not every man is a bloody angel and not every woman is a devil
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wait hang on hang on a minute hang on a minute i'm gonna leave go ahead hang on a minute
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how do you do that when did i say a man was an angel how do you do that how do you do that
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i'm talking i waited i waited yes i waited right so now it's my time to talk talk to me
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what i was saying to her is right is that if she got married first then she would have been
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all right she would have to be fighting for the court so the same law that you're saying
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would have supported her and her child and no and that is the difference between getting married
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first and that's what i'm saying and that's what when i was saying that just gives you more money
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you just know a good decision yeah excuse me but i shut up when you were talking
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go on apologies my auntie right i'm into disrespect so what i was trying to say
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is that there is an incentive when women get married first and have children because i'm not
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saying that i'm not saying like you i'm just saying women in general if a woman gets married first
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before she has a child and then it leaves then it's totally different like he said before she's up
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for life if she leaves she's out for life so if somebody else without marriage though that's the
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point no and that is you want to hear no and as a person again let's ask somebody who's actually
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going through because none of you know what the you're talking about when it comes to child support
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lawyers none of that none of you know okay so you don't the reality is if i would have gotten
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married and did everything right and did everything the moral way right guess what all i would have a
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dish on top of what i'm going through with child support is alimony so i'm still in the courts fighting
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whether i'm married or whether i'm not so that i get what you're saying because hey you at least get the
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commitment to you know maybe back up that he's going to be there but it doesn't ensure anything
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everybody wants a guaranteed thing there's no guaranteed in life we're talking different places
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when you're in america and you're married and you're divorced you still gotta fight for your money
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and would you yes not you have to get a lawyer not in england in england you get a lawyer and it's
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sorted that's the difference you would have to be going there saying oh i need this for my child and
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i need this you get once you get divorced and you go to court it's that much i'm saying she just spent
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50 000 pounds she's still fighting you have to pay that here you would not have to pay that here
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you would not have to pay that here do your research you would not have to pay that here
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when you get divorced she wouldn't be going for all the battle that she's going it'd be simpler in
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england to get divorced than in america take your money don't get married have a parental
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partnership love you i just want to make a point you know what you were saying get married even
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tate said himself men don't want to get married anymore why are you not turning what he's saying
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why are you not twisting what he's saying you're not even listening to what he's saying
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and you're twisting it to suit yourself i'm not he literally said
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take didn't you say that men are scared of getting married now yeah okay but why
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because like you said with child support they feel like there's no advantage
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it's not that simple because men don't want to marry you okay so let's let's let's analyze that
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point and first and first thing back to the child support thing what's actually interesting to talk
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about is there's a lot of countries in the world where there is no child support system and it
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functions right so you have to if you want to pay attention to actually you know learn about society
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as a whole it's very interesting to study all the different societies and economies in which there
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is no child support and and children don't die i mean people get divorced and they still find a way
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to function and it's interesting it's a very long conversation because it extrapolates about how the
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whole society works as a whole that's the first point second thing i'll actually sit here and argue
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the point that i don't think any man really ever wants to get married i think that women convince
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them to get married and i think that any woman who is genuinely serious about convincing her man to get
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married could do it i don't think in the modern world at least men wake up and go can't wait to get
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married but what they do is they get a chick who's so good and ticks so many boxes and makes them so happy
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and she'll sit there and say you know what it would mean the world to me please and he'll go
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oh for sake all right then and that's what happens so i still think you can convince 99.9 of men to
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marry you the point i was making is the society society isn't convincing the man to marry you it's
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not like it used to be where the man believed he had to be married society's done the opposite so it's
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your job as a woman to make it clear to him that it is worthwhile once again how would you convince a
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man it's worthwhile for him to say that's my wife status that's how you do it this is the under a
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misunderstood hack to to men as a whole is status if you can say if you can convince that man but by
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marrying you his status will increase amongst his peers he's going to do it and for anyone out here
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who disagrees with me the things men do for status let's actually analyze how baseline men are what is
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status status is respect right men kill over respect men gangs kill each other over respect
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a man will smash another man's face in for insulting him we will die for respect and status you tell me
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we won't get married we'll die for we'll go to the front line of a war and the only reason we don't walk
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away and abandon our post as artillery shells let rain is because we're afraid of being mocked for being a
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coward we'll die for status so status is what it's all about it's what it's always been about
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if you wanted a man to marry you status and it's the same thing with nearly anything you want to do
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with a man i don't know anything about your personal life i'll be honest i don't know right
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but i'll tell you this now if this dude this mba player believed that he would be higher respected
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amongst his peers and amongst society for taking care of you properly that's what he'd fucking do
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he doesn't feel that because either he's rolling with the wrong people or you've pissed him off in
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a way or something public's happened i don't have a clue but something's happened where he feels like
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if i take care of her i'll look like a bitch that's what he's scared of if it was inversed he had no
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problem giving you money because that's how men function i'm telling you right now as a man i'm
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telling you what i would do if i had a chick with a woman right and she went on the news top jesus and
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fucking i don't and this like i said i have no idea what you've done but i was giving my personal
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made-up scenario she would go on the news top jesus and he fucking lied to me he's a piece of
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shit and then i bought her a bentley was like well look she insults top jesus she insults him
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and he's fucking he's a simp but if she was like you know what he he's misunderstood he's a good guy
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it just didn't work out she'd be in a mansion right and would that be me being a nice guy caring
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about her or let's be honest would it be me being a selfish piece of shit dude and say what makes me
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look better men are all about status is how we function it's how we function as a whole so society
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this is where extrapolation gets interesting when society with this new thing has destroyed
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all of the baseline humanities and baseline understandings of how men interact with women
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and now all the things we previously understood about what made a good man what made a good woman
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and how we should act together and how we should interact has been erased of course men are acting
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like dickheads and of course women are doing wrong things because nothing makes sense anymore
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you've taken the chessboard and moved all the fucking pieces around nobody gets it it should be
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very simple i'm a man i work hard i take care of my woman i'm the man of the house she treats me with
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respect she would never insult me or raise her voice to me in front of other people she's a problem
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she brings it to me in private we act as a team we work together if we break up she was a good woman
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to me she fulfilled her roles the best she possibly could i'm still a man i'm gonna take care of her
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but all of that is gone all of it's gone all of it and it's gone because of all the ideas we were
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discussing earlier the feminism the new age bullshit the fucking dudes left and right and center
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that all these things all these baseline things have eroded society to the point
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where now you have men ignoring their paternal instinct you have men who will sit there and go
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that's my child but i fuck her that that is that that's actually a massive observation to make about
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how fucked up society is and it's all and it shouldn't be that way because men in a lot of the
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world are not like that and so you have to look at all these small things the small things we talk
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about it's no big deal she's goes on boats in miami it's no big deal it is a big deal because
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now that dude ain't gonna want to pay child support because you were on those boats with
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the other team and the thing is do you think do you think that men no as well said sagittarius
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as many of you know i was just banned on tick tock and we are demonetized on a daily basis on this
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