JustPearlyThings - December 26, 2022


Marriage In 2022


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In this episode, we discuss monogamy, child support and child support in post-marriage societies. We also discuss why men have been scared away from the idea of monogamy and why this is bad for society.

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00:00:00.000 speaking of speaking of marriage um i wanted to know do you think we're in a post-marriage society
00:00:08.000 because on one hand um we hear that women should wait till they're married to have sex but at the 0.96
00:00:12.800 same time we also hear from the men that they don't want to get married anymore
00:00:16.800 so what do we do with that seems like it's true because nowadays a lot of people are looking at
00:00:21.040 marriage as a contract rather than a partnership and there's a huge difference between that because
00:00:25.680 with a contract there are so many terms and many headaches and this and i know it is it is a
00:00:30.320 contract well yeah that's why yeah but that's because that is what it is now because realistically
00:00:36.000 the traditional sense of marriage is not a contract really in terms of the law once the law is involved
00:00:40.960 that's when everything went tits up i think yeah so the problem is is that there's zero advantage
00:00:48.560 to marriage in the western world for a man there is zero statistical advantage if you use your mind
00:00:54.560 if you use your head instead of your heart and you look at the advantages to getting married there
00:00:57.760 are absolutely not really none because this new idea of new age feminism just basically destroys 0.99
00:01:03.040 all men in the idea or in the event of her leaving and and it's very common that women leave right
00:01:08.960 let's let's stop the man versus woman attack etc etc life's difficult for everybody we all have
00:01:13.120 different challenges different things to go through but if a woman marries a man and it goes wrong 0.65
00:01:17.280 she has emotional heartbreak fine but if a man marries a woman and it goes wrong he has emotional
00:01:22.000 heartbreak plus everything he has ever worked for is ripped out from underneath him and he has to
00:01:27.200 give that chick money forever in some places you don't even have to be married exactly that's why 1.00
00:01:32.000 the men don't want to live with the women either that's right so when you make these rules and these 1.00
00:01:35.520 laws right under the guise of feminism and equality all this garbage all you're doing is scaring men 1.00
00:01:40.560 away from commitment and then you have to add in the other hidden element and the other hidden element
00:01:45.040 is what i said earlier is whose fault a lot this is is promiscuous women right so in society is 1.00
00:01:49.360 broken down if women were saying if all women got together and said we'll only have sex after
00:01:54.160 marriage guess what men would do get married but you don't right so now you're in miami i go miami
00:01:59.600 i can fuck anything in the club i don't have to marry any of them if i marry them i get wrecked 0.99
00:02:04.320 so like let's all use our brains here what am i gonna do well i'm gonna be like well no bounce see
00:02:10.560 uh no no so men have been scared away from the idea of marriage and that's a law that is the fault of this
00:02:16.000 new law and this new feminism and this new crap they don't give men any tactical advantage and 1.00
00:02:22.320 i'm talking about small things a man's not even allowed to be a man in his own house you know in
00:02:27.120 england you will get accused of emotional abuse i can marry a woman not lay a hand on her i can just
00:02:33.840 raise my voice to her that's emotional abuse i can raise my voice to her because she's going out
00:02:38.640 drinking with dudes she can go out drinking six nights a week with men and i can say what the 1.00
00:02:43.600 fuck you're my wife sit down she can call the cops call me emotionally abusive i get arrested 1.00
00:02:48.400 now now there's a court case against me i have to go to court and defend myself she'll divorce me 0.98
00:02:53.120 take my house i have to sell my car because she's drinking vodka with fucking god knows who but you 1.00
00:02:58.080 know it's what do you think what do you think of child support and that's another interesting
00:03:04.960 thing because a lot of these arguments it's it's it goes beyond man and woman and it goes into the
00:03:10.560 the larger sphere as a whole right because we talked earlier about war and how a lot of men
00:03:15.040 used to die and that doesn't happen anymore so what you used to have in societies and i'm not saying i
00:03:19.680 have all the answers i'm just commenting right what you used to have in societies is a bunch of men would
00:03:24.560 die at war because men have more dangerous lives than women there'd be a bunch more women than men the 1.00
00:03:29.280 top g's would impregnate a bunch of women and the top g's could take care of the women and that'd be 1.00
00:03:32.800 etc etc that's now changed right so the reason a lot of the reason that monogamy is pushed is because
00:03:38.160 it's good for society and it is good for society it's good for society as a whole to have a man 1.00
00:03:42.320 a woman a family together the man provides for the woman etc the government doesn't want to pay for
00:03:47.120 all these kids if you don't have child support who's paying for these kids the government does
00:03:49.600 it it breaks down right so that's why child support is enforced in many parts of the world
00:03:54.480 in certain other parts of the world child support isn't enforced because they have religious beliefs
00:03:58.080 or genuine genuine family beliefs that keep the families together but in the western world
00:04:02.160 now you need child support because you've broken things down to the point where men don't want to be 0.97
00:04:06.640 married to chicks chicks don't want to listen to the man the man can't even be the man in his own 0.92
00:04:10.640 household he can't even feel respected where he goes his woman gives him no status and and now he 0.85
00:04:15.760 doesn't want to deal with her anymore so how do you get that kid paid for well then tell the man or you 0.93
00:04:20.560 go to jail and you just come along with a long arm of the law and you him and so yeah it's difficult
00:04:25.040 it's hard to answer yeah but it's hard to answer the true answer to all of it is an idealistic answer
00:04:30.000 i don't like to think idealistically and talk idealistically but it's the truth
00:04:32.960 the true answer to it is to instill in the man a sense of duty in which he wants to take care of
00:04:37.440 his woman regardless because that's his child but you will do that i'll tell you how you do that you
00:04:41.600 do that by inspiring out of the man by being a very good woman so i'll give you an example if i had a
00:04:46.160 child with a woman and she was always a great woman to me she was never she never cheated on me she was
00:04:51.200 a good woman to me and i was running around being whatever and she's like look i just can't put up with 0.95
00:04:55.920 you anymore you're top g you're gonna do what you're gonna do i'm gonna look after your kid
00:05:00.400 i'm gonna you can see him anytime you want i care about you please don't leave me in poverty
00:05:06.240 i'd say cool 100 i'm not i'm not a fucking dickhead cool that's a real man though because i was in a 0.97
00:05:12.080 situation just yeah but i was just in a situation like that to where it's like hearts don't break
00:05:16.880 even and that's the reality too it's like if those morals and principles are not instilled in a man
00:05:21.280 none of that shit matters so obviously the child support stuff obviously hits close home to me
00:05:25.280 because i'm already 50 000 it's just in lawyer fees trying to get him to provide yeah you know
00:05:31.280 what i mean and it sucks because it's like you playing the nba like why couldn't you why don't
00:05:35.200 you want to do more and it's just because again of the relationship it's personal it's not about
00:05:39.520 our personal that's right so it's like yeah if you're not so i just i just feel like it's like
00:05:44.640 why do you get money for making a poor choice well it wasn't a poor choice because it was
00:05:48.400 i'm not trying to like disrespect you in any way it's just like if you left and so it's like
00:05:54.720 why do you get money for it just right because we because we made a commitment so we made at the
00:05:59.440 end of the day we made a commitment we have a forever commitment fuck marriage we're we are 0.85
00:06:02.960 forever family so again as someone who is literally going through this if i made more money than him i
00:06:09.280 would be paying him child support and that would be fair to me but this is what's really interesting
00:06:12.960 what's truly interesting is if you go to other countries and i'm talking about civilized countries
00:06:17.040 right if you go to poland or czech republic or whatever these countries which are in many
00:06:21.360 metrics more civilized than the west they're safer to live in they're cleaner etc there's no child
00:06:26.560 support laws so if you have a divorce the man just takes care of the woman because that's his kid and
00:06:30.480 that's just what he's supposed to do and that's just it so what you're saying is he you're right
00:06:34.720 about the man having the morality instilled inside of them and my point is that the reason a lot of
00:06:39.200 this doesn't exist the reason men don't have morality installed in them is not just about the
00:06:42.320 individual case of the man it's about society as a whole it's about women as a whole men as
00:06:47.200 a whole the dating game as a whole the life he's living as a whole and and it's and this is the
00:06:52.000 world we live in this is why i was talking about how dangerous new think is because now we have this
00:06:55.120 new think this new world and we're living in this new world and the truth is as a man now you're the
00:07:01.120 game has changed in the game of chess sometimes it's not about winning it's about making sure you don't
00:07:05.680 lose if you can not lose if you could not blunder any pieces and protect your king long enough you'll win
00:07:10.080 the game and there's a lot of men who are now like okay how do i not lose well you know what
00:07:14.000 i become fucking ruthless that's how i don't lose i get i get all my sex because the women are 1.00
00:07:18.800 promiscuous i get laid as much as i want i don't let anyone fucking tie me into anything dumb any 0.94
00:07:23.680 bitch wants to get fresh to me or fucking talk to another dude i cut her off financially but and 1.00
00:07:27.520 you just get ruthless so you don't lose the game but that's because the game's been rigged against men
00:07:31.680 so the harder you rig the game against us the more ruthless we're gonna have to be to compete
00:07:35.840 and that's it's unfortunate i'm not saying i have the answers i'm just saying why men do what they do
00:07:39.280 say with regards to brittany i just think that with regards to child support you've got a kid
00:07:43.040 you look after it hey and i do no not you the men oh i was like i do look after my son okay i was
00:07:49.120 like no that's why i said no that's what i said with regards to the child support that's what i first
00:07:53.840 said i think that you have a kid that you should look after it i don't agree that i don't agree with
00:07:58.480 men giving the women money but i think it's disgusting that a man can have a child and not support it so so
00:08:03.280 do i but this is another thing so this is this is the comments we have to make right because we don't
00:08:06.480 have all the answers we have to make the comments on it this goes into the deeper point every time
00:08:10.640 a court rules in favor of a chick having a hundred thousand dollars a month that puts men off to a 1.00
00:08:15.920 level like it's fine if there was a baseline child support thousand dollars a month two thousand dollars
00:08:20.640 a month that's if you have a kid baseline regardless of income if your man wants to give you more he 0.62
00:08:24.800 does if he doesn't whatever whatever but when you come along start saying this percent of a man's
00:08:28.080 income do you have any idea how scary that is to a man who works for his money he works for his money
00:08:32.560 and you know why it's scary it's not just because he's giving his money away it's because he knows
00:08:36.000 he isn't giving money to the kid yeah the kid you can raise a kid on 500 bucks a month in most of the
00:08:40.720 world you want that kid in gucci you in gucci you in a nice car going on dates with another dude
00:08:46.720 with my money you can i'd rather burn the house down than give it to you under the 0.61
00:08:54.000 i just think it incentivizes poor decisions like i haven't gotten pregnant by someone but like you
00:08:59.200 so much but i'm saying but like you're gonna you're gonna pay someone who's done that like why
00:09:02.960 did they get okay i'm literally telling you that what if i made more money than him i would have no
00:09:08.240 problem paying for my child and their child child support laws vary in different states so in north
00:09:12.640 carolina for instance if you make over combined over 300 000 a year then you are considered off the
00:09:18.160 grid so then you have to prove this is how much my your rent is any bill that my son occupies i get a
00:09:23.840 percent that i get a percentage of so on the low end it would be 50 if there's a big enough salary
00:09:29.120 gap it could be up to 97 and the court the judge gets to decide what makes the most sense so if my
00:09:34.720 child's father makes 20 million dollars a year from basketball he gets to decide if six thousand
00:09:38.880 dollars is a lot if eight thousand or ten thousand whatever but you have to prove that so it's not
00:09:43.280 like you just it's enough money for a chanel bag like these are a my son watches peppa pig that's a
00:09:48.480 part of that's a cable bill you know what i mean so it's it's a percentage of everything so you're not
00:09:52.400 like just living living it up you're just living so you're able to there's a roof over your son's head
00:09:58.160 my whole point is like it's all down to choices and the man made a choice too because i can't get
00:10:02.320 pregnant unless he nuts in me i i understand that but i'm then there's nothing to argue you're the
00:10:06.720 one that's only you're in in control of who gets born abortion's legal okay as soon as as soon as 1.00
00:10:12.720 as soon as he nuts it's completely out of his control listen can i just say something though
00:10:18.560 advocate that i had a i had my child and me and the dad went together and i didn't take a penny from
00:10:23.920 him and the government wanted me to but i decided that no it was better off that my child i look
00:10:28.960 after him myself anything he wants to give his son if he wanted to is extra but i worked hard and i've
00:10:33.840 done it all on my own because it was just less because it's this headache it's this no and i know
00:10:38.720 a lot of women that went that route that is you you have to think that he's not going to be a man 1.00
00:10:44.480 and take care of his child don't you think that's unfair on you no because he's my child and he's happy
00:10:48.880 now giving him what he wants as well he made that child that's why i don't need a man but the whole
00:10:53.360 point is you choose who you sleep with listen right as far as he chooses as well that's the thing
00:10:58.000 yeah this is this is it's to the tango what are we talking about i'm saying right now it's not
00:11:02.560 fair because women have abortion that's legal it's not legal for them oh they get no saying 1.00
00:11:07.760 they get no saying and the same thing with birth i mean i could have done i could have done but
00:11:10.880 it wasn't worth my time you can get an iud it's like 99.100 but what if the man wanted the child
00:11:16.720 though that's exactly my point so i was on birth my whole point my point i i think he should i think
00:11:23.120 he should take care of it but i just don't agree with having legal incentives for women to leave 1.00
00:11:27.600 that's my point he should give you money for the kid if you have a kid you should but i just don't
00:11:32.240 agree with with see but the thing is if men stood up and became fathers to their children women wouldn't 0.96
00:11:38.000 but if women choose differently if women but it starts but it starts we're in control we're in 0.92
00:11:43.840 control of who we sleep with so at the end of the day but that's not the point because if you pick
00:11:47.840 if you but you but you pick who you sleep with so you pick a guy that's getting girls pregnant left 0.99
00:11:52.880 and right but she doesn't know that he's not gonna be there she doesn't know that if she married him 0.97
00:11:56.800 she'd be all right she trusted this man to be a father to a child and now she's left with a child and
00:12:01.840 no one's gonna support her marion don't you think that's something she's married in first i mean
00:12:05.280 you can get married you can get married that's what i'm saying it's just like marriage is what
00:12:10.080 solves problems are you guys not what i'm trying to say marriage will solve her financial problems
00:12:15.520 please don't cut me off this is the problem yeah stop acting like every woman that leaves a marriage 0.99
00:12:20.320 and gets divorced is because she's this and she's that there's a lot of women that suffer and they 1.00
00:12:24.640 actually need the support and the legal incentives so that they know when they leave somebody can back
00:12:28.880 them up because they'll be on their own stop acting like men are angels because there's a lot
00:12:32.640 of men that are dealing with a lot of the traumas that they have from a man's world being difficult
00:12:37.280 the same way that andrew tate explained a man's world is highly competitive men are out there
00:12:41.680 suffering it is hard to be a man and a lot of the time the person takes the brunt of it is the woman 0.99
00:12:45.840 so yes she's well within her right to leave take her child and be in a better place and the 1.00
00:12:50.240 government should step in to make sure that that man that made her make that decision steps in for their 1.00
00:12:54.480 kid can i say wait the time that she takes to take care of the child is the time that she doesn't 1.00
00:12:59.840 have to go to work so she's already done on income and she's having to be taking care of the child on 1.00
00:13:03.840 own that don't make sense not every man is a bloody angel and not every woman is a devil
00:13:08.000 wait hang on hang on a minute hang on a minute i'm gonna leave go ahead hang on a minute
00:13:11.920 how do you do that when did i say a man was an angel how do you do that how do you do that
00:13:18.000 i'm talking i waited i waited yes i waited right so now it's my time to talk talk to me
00:13:24.160 what i was saying to her is right is that if she got married first then she would have been
00:13:30.000 all right she would have to be fighting for the court so the same law that you're saying
00:13:33.120 would have supported her and her child and no and that is the difference between getting married 0.99
00:13:37.280 first and that's what i'm saying and that's what when i was saying that just gives you more money
00:13:43.360 you just know a good decision yeah excuse me but i shut up when you were talking
00:13:47.200 go on apologies my auntie right i'm into disrespect so what i was trying to say
00:13:51.360 is that there is an incentive when women get married first and have children because i'm not 1.00
00:13:57.280 saying that i'm not saying like you i'm just saying women in general if a woman gets married first
00:14:02.080 before she has a child and then it leaves then it's totally different like he said before she's up
00:14:07.120 for life if she leaves she's out for life so if somebody else without marriage though that's the 1.00
00:14:12.560 point no and that is you want to hear no and as a person again let's ask somebody who's actually
00:14:17.680 going through because none of you know what the you're talking about when it comes to child support
00:14:21.040 lawyers none of that none of you know okay so you don't the reality is if i would have gotten
00:14:27.440 married and did everything right and did everything the moral way right guess what all i would have a
00:14:32.320 dish on top of what i'm going through with child support is alimony so i'm still in the courts fighting
00:14:38.240 whether i'm married or whether i'm not so that i get what you're saying because hey you at least get the
00:14:42.960 commitment to you know maybe back up that he's going to be there but it doesn't ensure anything
00:14:48.560 everybody wants a guaranteed thing there's no guaranteed in life we're talking different places
00:14:53.360 when you're in america and you're married and you're divorced you still gotta fight for your money
00:14:57.040 and would you yes not you have to get a lawyer not in england in england you get a lawyer and it's
00:15:01.760 sorted that's the difference you would have to be going there saying oh i need this for my child and
00:15:06.400 i need this you get once you get divorced and you go to court it's that much i'm saying she just spent
00:15:12.720 50 000 pounds she's still fighting you have to pay that here you would not have to pay that here 0.95
00:15:20.320 you would not have to pay that here do your research you would not have to pay that here
00:15:24.240 when you get divorced she wouldn't be going for all the battle that she's going it'd be simpler in 0.99
00:15:28.960 england to get divorced than in america take your money don't get married have a parental
00:15:35.440 partnership love you i just want to make a point you know what you were saying get married even
00:15:41.360 tate said himself men don't want to get married anymore why are you not turning what he's saying
00:15:46.000 why are you not twisting what he's saying you're not even listening to what he's saying
00:15:54.320 and you're twisting it to suit yourself i'm not he literally said
00:15:57.680 take didn't you say that men are scared of getting married now yeah okay but why
00:16:02.080 because like you said with child support they feel like there's no advantage
00:16:08.560 it's not that simple because men don't want to marry you okay so let's let's let's analyze that
00:16:13.520 point and first and first thing back to the child support thing what's actually interesting to talk
00:16:17.040 about is there's a lot of countries in the world where there is no child support system and it
00:16:22.160 functions right so you have to if you want to pay attention to actually you know learn about society
00:16:27.280 as a whole it's very interesting to study all the different societies and economies in which there
00:16:32.640 is no child support and and children don't die i mean people get divorced and they still find a way
00:16:37.680 to function and it's interesting it's a very long conversation because it extrapolates about how the
00:16:41.120 whole society works as a whole that's the first point second thing i'll actually sit here and argue
00:16:45.600 the point that i don't think any man really ever wants to get married i think that women convince 1.00
00:16:53.600 them to get married and i think that any woman who is genuinely serious about convincing her man to get
00:16:58.240 married could do it i don't think in the modern world at least men wake up and go can't wait to get
00:17:03.040 married but what they do is they get a chick who's so good and ticks so many boxes and makes them so happy
00:17:09.040 and she'll sit there and say you know what it would mean the world to me please and he'll go
00:17:15.280 oh for sake all right then and that's what happens so i still think you can convince 99.9 of men to
00:17:21.280 marry you the point i was making is the society society isn't convincing the man to marry you it's
00:17:27.760 not like it used to be where the man believed he had to be married society's done the opposite so it's
00:17:31.600 your job as a woman to make it clear to him that it is worthwhile once again how would you convince a
00:17:37.600 man it's worthwhile for him to say that's my wife status that's how you do it this is the under a 0.91
00:17:44.480 misunderstood hack to to men as a whole is status if you can say if you can convince that man but by
00:17:50.960 marrying you his status will increase amongst his peers he's going to do it and for anyone out here
00:17:55.680 who disagrees with me the things men do for status let's actually analyze how baseline men are what is
00:18:02.160 status status is respect right men kill over respect men gangs kill each other over respect
00:18:09.040 a man will smash another man's face in for insulting him we will die for respect and status you tell me
00:18:14.320 we won't get married we'll die for we'll go to the front line of a war and the only reason we don't walk
00:18:20.000 away and abandon our post as artillery shells let rain is because we're afraid of being mocked for being a
00:18:26.240 coward we'll die for status so status is what it's all about it's what it's always been about
00:18:31.600 if you wanted a man to marry you status and it's the same thing with nearly anything you want to do
00:18:36.240 with a man i don't know anything about your personal life i'll be honest i don't know right
00:18:40.880 but i'll tell you this now if this dude this mba player believed that he would be higher respected
00:18:46.560 amongst his peers and amongst society for taking care of you properly that's what he'd fucking do
00:18:51.040 he doesn't feel that because either he's rolling with the wrong people or you've pissed him off in
00:18:55.600 a way or something public's happened i don't have a clue but something's happened where he feels like
00:18:59.520 if i take care of her i'll look like a bitch that's what he's scared of if it was inversed he had no 1.00
00:19:04.640 problem giving you money because that's how men function i'm telling you right now as a man i'm
00:19:08.240 telling you what i would do if i had a chick with a woman right and she went on the news top jesus and 0.97
00:19:12.240 fucking i don't and this like i said i have no idea what you've done but i was giving my personal 0.93
00:19:15.600 made-up scenario she would go on the news top jesus and he fucking lied to me he's a piece of 0.94
00:19:20.080 shit and then i bought her a bentley was like well look she insults top jesus she insults him 1.00
00:19:24.480 and he's fucking he's a simp but if she was like you know what he he's misunderstood he's a good guy 0.92
00:19:29.440 it just didn't work out she'd be in a mansion right and would that be me being a nice guy caring
00:19:35.440 about her or let's be honest would it be me being a selfish piece of shit dude and say what makes me
00:19:39.520 look better men are all about status is how we function it's how we function as a whole so society
00:19:45.280 this is where extrapolation gets interesting when society with this new thing has destroyed
00:19:50.720 all of the baseline humanities and baseline understandings of how men interact with women
00:19:55.120 and now all the things we previously understood about what made a good man what made a good woman
00:19:59.600 and how we should act together and how we should interact has been erased of course men are acting
00:20:05.120 like dickheads and of course women are doing wrong things because nothing makes sense anymore 1.00
00:20:08.480 you've taken the chessboard and moved all the fucking pieces around nobody gets it it should be 0.99
00:20:12.480 very simple i'm a man i work hard i take care of my woman i'm the man of the house she treats me with
00:20:18.400 respect she would never insult me or raise her voice to me in front of other people she's a problem 0.98
00:20:22.080 she brings it to me in private we act as a team we work together if we break up she was a good woman
00:20:28.160 to me she fulfilled her roles the best she possibly could i'm still a man i'm gonna take care of her
00:20:32.960 but all of that is gone all of it's gone all of it and it's gone because of all the ideas we were
00:20:38.160 discussing earlier the feminism the new age bullshit the fucking dudes left and right and center 1.00
00:20:42.400 that all these things all these baseline things have eroded society to the point
00:20:47.920 where now you have men ignoring their paternal instinct you have men who will sit there and go
00:20:52.400 that's my child but i fuck her that that is that that's actually a massive observation to make about 0.86
00:20:59.280 how fucked up society is and it's all and it shouldn't be that way because men in a lot of the 0.99
00:21:03.840 world are not like that and so you have to look at all these small things the small things we talk
00:21:10.160 about it's no big deal she's goes on boats in miami it's no big deal it is a big deal because
00:21:15.200 now that dude ain't gonna want to pay child support because you were on those boats with
00:21:18.640 the other team and the thing is do you think do you think that men no as well said sagittarius
00:21:25.040 as many of you know i was just banned on tick tock and we are demonetized on a daily basis on this
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