JustPearlyThings - Massive DEBATE On How Women RUINED Everything in 2023

00:00:00.000 with a girl and doing, oh, bro, I'm not a part of this, like, you can't get no respect like that.

00:00:03.900 Cos, but you know what I'm saying, though, just like, just follow me here, I'm with you, just follow me.

00:00:07.160 It's what King was saying, right? You see, when a man's a big stepper, you step like that anyway,

00:00:12.080 because that's who you are principally, right? So you see, when you find a woman that, like, you know,

00:00:16.800 some women are attracted to the mind, some women, I'm never going to go into that, right?

00:00:19.320 When you find a woman that, like, aspires to that, and she's powerful as well, you lot become a union.

00:00:24.100 The motivation is not, let me become successful because I want to get a woman or prove to a woman 0.84

00:00:28.600 that I can pay a bill. That's not what it is. You're also supposed to have those principles

00:00:31.560 and those characteristics anyway.

00:00:33.860 Well, I think there's two slightly different things here, though, because what King's saying is correct 0.82

00:00:38.080 in the sense that a high-value man, in the sort of, like, moralistic sense of the world,

00:00:42.540 yes, he should be noble, he should have, you know, good intentions, he should be, you know,

00:00:46.440 a leader in the community, et cetera, et cetera. Is that stuff necessarily going to get him laid?

00:00:50.080 Not necessarily. So then, when you think about, if you're in the nightclub,

00:00:54.300 if you're in the nightclub in Los Angeles, and you're talking to a, and this has been told

00:00:59.660 to me anecdotally by somebody that I know, you know, you're talking to a group of girls,

00:01:03.020 there's some, like, high-class models there, whatever, and then Leonardo DiCaprio walks in,

00:01:06.620 right? What do you think happens to the fucking girls? Do they stand there, do they sit there 1.00

00:01:10.260 sitting to your broke ass? Or do they all fucking disappear? So if value didn't exist, 1.00

00:01:15.160 if value was just this completely nebulous concept that's entirely subjective, then how is it

00:01:19.940 that somebody who's a movie star who, okay, he's not as great now, but who was decent-looking,

00:01:24.140 has huge status, and let's face it, money within society, how is it that he comes in

00:01:28.180 and sweeps all the girls right? There's clearly something going on here, right?

00:01:32.180 Otherwise, it wouldn't be like that. Otherwise, they'd just go, well, no, this dude over here

00:01:36.040 is more noble than Leo, so I'm just going to stay with him tonight and not go to the mansion party.

00:01:40.520 No, but let her go. 0.93

00:01:42.340 So, what I want to say is, like, for me, a high-value man is somebody who has integrity

00:01:49.400 and somebody who can be a good husband.

00:01:51.360 Thank you.

00:01:51.840 Because, like, for me, my husband is an amazing man, an amazing leader, and it has nothing

00:01:57.200 to do with money. Like, you can have so much money and be a bad husband. You can have so

00:02:01.400 much money and be a bad father. You can have so much money and do lots and lots of things

00:02:05.320 terribly. And I think, like, your example about, you know, you go to the club and all the

00:02:09.420 girls are interested in Leo, they're not white. 1.00

00:02:11.360 That speaks for the time for women. 1.00

00:02:13.700 Listen, China, listen.

00:02:15.600 But in the brutal reality of the sexual marketplace, who's going to win out?

00:02:19.200 Is it going to be Leo, or is it going to be the super noble Catholic priest?

00:02:21.620 If the girl goes for Leo, then it's not the girl for me. 0.99

00:02:23.920 I get what you're saying. Like, the more options available to you, then the chances of a man 0.97

00:02:28.260 being successful winning.

00:02:29.140 That's if your goal is sleeping with more women. 1.00

00:02:31.100 Is your husband a provider?

00:02:32.280 I think we have to, there has to be a way to measure it, and my problem is a lot of times

00:02:36.940 when we go back to the character arguments, which are all, like, fine and dandy, how do you

00:02:41.420 measure it?

00:02:42.320 Yeah.

00:02:42.820 I mean, like, because then it's very subjective.

00:02:44.600 I think King's point is entirely right.

00:02:47.220 Like, if we lived in a society that was fair and decent, and we were all like, you know,

00:02:52.280 I don't know, we all behaved as we should do, then it was absolutely right.

00:02:55.460 The dude who's got the best moral character should be at the top of the tree.

00:02:59.520 But unfortunately, I don't believe we live in that world, or certainly not in the West

00:03:02.520 anyway.

00:03:03.000 I don't know. 0.99

00:03:03.260 We're pretty fucked, aren't we? 0.99

00:03:03.720 And honestly, I just, I really don't believe these, like, where they're like, if women, 1.00

00:03:10.880 I think most women, even wives, if they thought that some of these celebrity dudes would take 1.00

00:03:16.000 them seriously, I don't really believe that they wouldn't be interested.

00:03:19.280 Like, they're like, my point about the high value thing, the reason why I said it has

00:03:25.580 nothing to do with women is because if you're measuring a high value, the value of a man 0.93

00:03:31.100 based on the metrics of women, that's just a weak feel. 1.00

00:03:35.520 No, but I didn't say that, but we, that's not what I said.

00:03:38.440 I'll tell you why, I'll give you an example.

00:03:39.360 Think about it like this.

00:03:40.460 Leonardo DiCaprio, yes, he might walk into this room and grab all the girls and all of

00:03:43.340 that, but in a situation, if a serious situation comes up, do you think anybody, if we're in

00:03:49.160 a room of men, do you think people are going to look to Leonardo DiCaprio for leadership?

00:03:52.440 No.

00:03:52.580 I don't know.

00:03:53.220 So that, inherently, he's not a high value man in terms of...

00:03:56.480 He's a waste man.

00:03:57.660 Wait, I have a question. 0.97

00:03:58.660 I have a question.

00:04:02.720 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:04:03.680 Who's going to get their end of the way, though?

00:04:06.240 Wait, who else? 0.97

00:04:07.040 Leonardo DiCaprio is a waste man. 0.93

00:04:10.080 My point is just because a man can get laid by women doesn't mean... 0.99

00:04:13.620 That's not what I said.

00:04:14.820 It's king.

00:04:15.220 Okay, wait, okay.

00:04:16.400 Way more than women. 0.99

00:04:17.780 Okay, I'm going to let Troi go, then you can go, okay?

00:04:19.900 No, look, I mean, I agree with what you're saying.

00:04:22.120 I don't think a guy should set out to measure his own value by how many times he can get laid. 0.99

00:04:26.440 I think that's fucking pathetic. 0.99

00:04:27.500 I totally agree with that. 0.99

00:04:28.400 However, it depends on what prism we're looking at this high value question through.

00:04:31.940 If we're looking at it through the brutal realities of the current modern dating marketplace,

00:04:36.620 the reality is that Leo or whoever other ex-celebrity you want to put in his place is going to get his end away more than the average dude.

00:04:42.940 However nice the average dude is.

00:04:44.180 I'm not saying it's right, and I'm not saying that is the true measure of a man's worth,

00:04:49.140 whether he can pull some, you know, club's hoe or not. 0.99

00:04:51.600 But that is the brutal reality of the way the sexual marketplace is now.

00:04:54.600 Because the majority of women in the sexual marketplace at the moment are these prototype women 1.00

00:04:58.940 who do put these things at the top of their value systems.

00:05:02.640 Yeah, but what does that say about women when we're given all the freedom and that's what we think? 1.00

00:05:06.480 I have a question, right?

00:05:09.240 So to my understanding, like, you guys believe that men should be, like, the leaders of society,

00:05:13.440 slash they are the leaders of society, right?

00:05:16.020 So I'm just trying to make this clear.

00:05:17.880 But it seems like you hold responsibility about, like, broken households, like, only on women.

00:05:24.100 And to me that's a little bit strange because it's like if men are supposed to lead the woman,

00:05:28.480 then there's a failure of leadership if women aren't, like, falling to place. 1.00

00:05:32.560 Okay, I'll actually, I'll actually, I blame women all the time, so I'll take this one. 1.00

00:05:39.860 So I think it's the woman's fault because the women tend to leave, and they tend to leave for stupid reasons. 1.00

00:05:44.360 Yeah, but then my argument is that if you believe, like, the natural order is that, like, men are supposed to lead 0.99

00:05:49.860 and that women are supposed to be submissive, there's obviously something wrong with, like, leadership 1.00

00:05:53.620 if women are so willingly and easily able to lead. 1.00

00:05:56.300 Okay, so I would argue it's because men have no power in this society. 0.99

00:05:59.980 They know that if they leave, that they lose, they know they lose everything.

00:06:04.420 Honestly, if it doesn't work out, women know they gain everything. 1.00

00:06:07.680 If you pay people to make bad decisions, they're going to make bad decisions.

00:06:10.320 Yeah, but I thought my understanding was that, like, oh, you know, high-value men do have all the power in society.

00:06:15.900 Like, that's at least, maybe it's different in this podcast, but at least in the ones I've been before,

00:06:20.160 they talk about, like, oh, you know, the 1% men get all the women, they get all the money,

00:06:24.620 they have control of all the resources.

00:06:26.360 So when it comes to the dating market, yeah, they have the most power in the dating market,

00:06:30.680 like, the most choice.

00:06:31.740 Of course we have.

00:06:32.220 But, so, okay, if me and you make a business deal, right, and if the deal fails, you get all the money,

00:06:41.080 and if the deal fails, I lose all the money, I'm always going to be trying to make you happy

00:06:46.220 because I don't want you to leave.

00:06:48.500 And I just don't think that works.

00:06:50.220 Women hate guys, like, give them whatever they want, 1.00

00:06:52.800 but a lot of marriages turn into that because women have all the power. 1.00

00:06:56.460 And the average men have no control over this.

00:06:59.220 You know, you could, I would argue that elite liberal men did this by giving women the right to vote,

00:07:04.620 and women voted in a lot of these policies that I would argue discriminate against men. 0.99

00:07:12.220 But I would say it is out of order, and men are not able to leave because of the leverage that women have. 0.97

00:07:17.740 Yeah, I think maybe I just, like, fundamentally disagree because in most divorce cases,

00:07:21.860 like, alimony is only 10%.

00:07:23.240 Like, at least in the United States, it's more than 50-50 when it comes to divorce,

00:07:26.940 unless you have, like, those giant income gaps.

00:07:28.940 What's the most important thing?

00:07:30.600 What do you mean what's the most important thing?

00:07:31.640 So what is the most important thing?

00:07:34.540 I think, what is it?

00:07:36.600 I'm not sure.

00:07:37.500 What would you say in a marriage is the most important thing?

00:07:40.520 Communication.

00:07:41.560 No, no, no.

00:07:42.040 Not, like, to make it work.

00:07:43.800 I mean, like, what is the most important thing that you get out of marriage?

00:07:47.940 Like a loving partner?

00:07:49.040 Children.

00:07:50.060 Okay.

00:07:50.320 And men only get custody 10% of the time.

00:07:53.440 At least in the United States, the way that it's phrased is that the primary caregiver gets...

00:07:57.600 Right.

00:07:58.000 So they punish men for doing the right thing.

00:08:00.320 No.

00:08:00.540 Because if men... 0.75

00:08:02.620 No, I've talked to lawyers about this now.

00:08:04.920 If men do the right thing, and, you know, she could tell you she's a lawyer,

00:08:08.800 but if men do the right thing, which is to provide for their family,

00:08:11.780 they're punished because they didn't spend as much time with the kids.

00:08:14.140 But that's what you're supposed to do.

00:08:15.340 So the way they write the laws, I would argue, discriminates against men

00:08:18.880 because even in 50-50 relationships, quote-unquote 50-50,

00:08:22.320 it's like 70% of the time, roughly, men are still paying the majority.

00:08:28.180 They still make more.

00:08:28.980 So do you believe that men should have, like, you know, 0.97

00:08:31.300 more time off to be able to take care of their children

00:08:33.340 or should be able to, like...

00:08:35.100 Because, you know, you have, like, maternal leave in a lot of places.

00:08:37.280 Do you believe that there should be, like, an equal amount of paternal leave that's also paid?

00:08:41.360 No.

00:08:41.760 I'm not here to say how you should, like, structure your family with working, not working.

00:08:47.680 No, I'm talking about society.

00:08:48.560 I'm saying that...

00:08:49.120 No, I'm saying that with the divorce laws and the child support laws being the way they are,

00:08:54.820 it makes it very difficult for men to lead because women have so much leverage. 0.99

00:09:00.380 Yeah, and I'm saying that, like, when you're painting this picture of society

00:09:03.660 and you're saying, oh, no, the men are getting punished for being, like, providers,

00:09:07.820 but we have an increasing society where, you know, women also work 1.00

00:09:11.320 and they're expected to do household labor, so they're doing both of these things.

00:09:14.660 Well, women... 1.00

00:09:15.220 The one thing is women chose to work, so we didn't have to work. 1.00

00:09:18.280 We chose to do that.

00:09:19.480 And the other thing is women want a lifestyle that men... 1.00

00:09:23.620 that average men can't afford, so they want to get their nails done. 1.00

00:09:26.460 And I can just say this anecdotally from having so many chicks come on the show. 0.97

00:09:29.900 They all have their nails done, and a lot of times they have Botox.

00:09:32.360 A lot of times they have fake hair.

00:09:33.460 A lot of times they have the latest fashion trends.

00:09:35.980 Like, our grandmothers and great-grandmothers didn't have all of that stuff,

00:09:39.320 and they went down in lifestyle for the children, for the family.

00:09:42.680 That was what was important.

00:09:44.180 But we have, again, back to the me, me, me, materialistic is the number one thing

00:09:48.080 in this society, Instagram, social media.

00:09:52.040 Why do you think women divorce? 1.00

00:09:54.640 I think women think that they can do better. 1.00

00:09:57.640 And I think there's a couple things that go on.

00:09:59.940 I think, one, social media deludes us.

00:10:01.940 I think we live...

00:10:03.100 Women, it's like we spend eight hours a day on social media. 1.00

00:10:06.160 You don't think that's going to influence us?

00:10:08.260 80% of consumer buying decisions are made by women telling us we're going to be young forever, 0.99

00:10:13.120 telling us we're going to be hot forever, telling us men like whores, 0.99

00:10:16.460 telling us old women are attractive. 1.00

00:10:18.360 They're starting to cast old lady actors as leads. 0.99

00:10:22.160 Like, why is a 33-year-old chick Barbie... 0.77

00:10:23.360 Telling them that men want baby moments.

00:10:24.800 And so I think that, like, really makes us live in this la-la land and delusion,

00:10:29.740 and no one tells us the truth for our whole lives.

00:10:32.400 And I think a lot of times we think we can do better, which the data will tell you we can't.

00:10:37.240 We don't.

00:10:37.740 We don't remarry, typically, if we have a kid. 1.00

00:10:39.780 And I think that, you know, I think we do leave for stupid reasons. 0.99

00:10:45.160 And, you know, one of them, I think women also starve men of sex, and then they get cheated on. 0.99

00:10:51.000 But a lot of times they don't sleep with them for two, three years as a divorce attorney.

00:10:54.660 I'm sure you've heard that story a million times, yeah.

00:10:57.600 I think women are also very controlling and conniving. 1.00

00:11:00.180 And I think, yeah, and I think we try to control situations because we're told we should have an equal say and be an equal partnership.

00:11:08.220 Yeah, I think at least when it comes to, like, the divorce stats I read,

00:11:11.480 it seems like one of the primary reasons for divorce is that women are doing, you know, the labor outside the home. 0.98

00:11:17.760 And I know you're saying women choose to do that.

00:11:19.580 But I also think that there's a reality that we live in a time of inflation.

00:11:22.820 We live in a time where...

00:11:23.780 I want to speak to this from personal experience about the whole, like, cost of living argument.

00:11:27.540 Okay, wait, wait, let me finish.

00:11:30.180 Wait, I'm just, I'm almost done.

00:11:31.840 No, you let her...

00:11:32.640 Go ahead.

00:11:33.540 Ouch! 1.00

00:11:33.960 Wait, so, you know, we live in a time where there's, like, inflation, where it's harder to have, like, this minimum quality of life,

00:11:39.920 where, you know, we're just struggling as a society as a whole.

00:11:43.800 So this whole idea that, like, oh, no, like, you know, women just choose to work or whatever,

00:11:48.120 a lot of them, like, don't.

00:11:49.120 A lot of them need that to keep the family afloat.

00:11:51.380 And I think that causes a lot of stress and problems.

00:11:53.380 And I think there's ways we can fix it, right, as a society.

00:11:56.360 I think this is a controversial opinion from both sides.

00:11:59.320 But, yeah, I think we should give, like, a minimum tax credit for people who have children

00:12:03.340 to, like, encourage the women to stay at home, to make it less financially, like, distressful. 0.98

00:12:08.140 But I think this whole idea that, like, oh, no, they're just leaving for stupid reasons. 0.97

00:12:11.800 I don't think that's 100% true.

00:12:12.320 Okay, so if money is the issue, is it going to be fixed when you have two rents?

00:12:18.560 What do you mean by...

00:12:19.260 So you said that the issue is that women have to work. 1.00

00:12:22.240 It's not just money.

00:12:23.420 It's money plus a household labor. 1.00

00:12:25.040 Okay, okay.

00:12:25.640 So now you have two households to do labor in. 0.98

00:12:28.440 How does that solve the problem?

00:12:29.640 Well, no, you don't have two households to do labor in. 1.00

00:12:31.300 No, because she gets an apartment and he gets an apartment. 0.98

00:12:33.900 Yeah.

00:12:34.200 And now she only has to take care about her and her child. 0.93

00:12:37.140 She doesn't take care of her child, her work, and her man. 1.00

00:12:39.980 So, but I'm saying there's two rents, right?

00:12:42.500 Yeah, but she doesn't have to cover both rents. 1.00

00:12:44.520 Right, but she still has to cook for herself, right? 1.00

00:12:47.080 Yeah, for herself and for her child.

00:12:48.440 But I just, I think we live in, like, this is deluded.

00:12:51.080 Delisional wealth.

00:12:51.840 Yeah, like, you also get less help, like, from the guy.

00:12:55.360 Like, if you want to change a light bulb.

00:12:57.640 But women, single women always have their smoke detectors going off. 1.00

00:13:00.800 Yeah.

00:13:01.160 Like, there's things that men provide.

00:13:05.160 Like, the thing is women, and this, I think, actually brings us to a problem in society. 1.00

00:13:08.980 Well, women are always keeping score, and you can't keep score in a marriage. 1.00

00:13:11.940 Even that mentality right there, that's keeping score.

00:13:14.380 Well, I did this for you.

00:13:15.340 I'm also working.

00:13:16.200 I'm doing this, this, this.

00:13:17.280 Which, you're thinking about me, me, me, me, me, when it's not about you.

00:13:20.140 It's about your kids.

00:13:20.880 Like, we're going to divorce over chores.

00:13:22.580 Well, it's not just chores, right?

00:13:24.020 It's a built-up resentment.

00:13:25.380 Right, that women. 1.00

00:13:26.440 Yeah, on top of the built-up resentment, it's the fact that, like, yeah, there is added stress.

00:13:30.400 Even if you're not consciously keeping count, it does add up when you have to do more chores, more labor, more housekeeping, more everything.

00:13:36.860 Right, but this goes back to our conversation.

00:13:38.980 I want to mention about Africa because, according to you, African people don't have families.

00:13:44.760 I'm just, obviously, that's not what you said, but I'm just being funny.

00:13:48.160 But anyways, the point is, in the Western world, you guys have Roombas, you have washing machines, you have electric cookers, you have help.

00:13:57.080 You have Uber Eats, you have everything.

00:13:58.260 For some reason, the chores are so much that you guys can't work and do chores.

00:14:04.040 Bro, if you come to Africa, on Sunday, my mom cooks for how many people?

00:14:09.180 Bro, I can't even, I can't even.

00:14:10.620 She does it for her personal life, and she even does it as a job. 1.00

00:14:13.720 Well, and this other idea that women haven't worked in history, it's like the dumbest shit I've ever heard. 1.00

00:14:19.740 Women would work twice as hard for a lifestyle that was worse. 1.00

00:14:23.900 Like, you think that the women on the farms were, like, they spent all day helping their husband in field.

00:14:29.340 Google, like, a day in the life of the Amish. 0.97

00:14:31.380 Those women, like, they get up, they milk the cows, they're sweeping the bar, then they go cook for their husband. 1.00

00:14:37.960 Like, the difference is they're at home.

00:14:41.380 I think, what is it?

00:14:43.000 I think this idea that just having two parents in the household automatically equals good household is wrong.

00:14:48.880 Did you have, did you, did you grow up with married parents?

00:14:51.040 Yeah, I grew up in a very traditional household.

00:14:52.920 So I think that's a really privileged position to have.

00:14:55.980 What, the idea that two parents automatically equals a happy household?

00:14:59.240 Yeah, no, I didn't say that it automatically equals a happy household.

00:15:03.620 I'm saying that's a very privileged position from someone that has had two parents in the home.

00:15:09.000 It's because I've had two parents at the home that I can say, like, hey, you know what?

00:15:12.680 Like, this is not necessarily the most ideal lifestyle that people make it out to be.

00:15:17.080 At the end of the day, no, I'm saying that we should strive towards healthy, like, communication and healthy relationships.

00:15:23.980 Who decides, who decides what communication is healthy?

00:15:26.600 I mean, I think we can, like, all decide that together, right?

00:15:30.380 You shouldn't scream at your partner.

00:15:32.140 You shouldn't talk down to them.

00:15:34.060 No, see, talk down, that's subjective.

00:15:36.000 What is talking to them?

00:15:36.740 The problem is, the problem is, I mean, but then women take everything as an insult. 1.00

00:15:41.560 I don't think that's true.

00:15:44.980 I don't know.

00:15:46.400 But this is, but this is, this is the.

00:15:48.220 If anyone abuses anyone, women abuse men way more than men would even abuse women.

00:15:51.920 Yeah, I just don't think that either way, I don't think either partner should insult their partner.

00:15:56.580 I think they're in a.

00:15:57.480 The problem is, you think that there is this ideal way family should be.

00:16:00.780 The fact is, there is no perfect family, and they can never be a perfect family.

00:16:04.620 What they can be is a family.

00:16:07.380 Yeah, but we can say, like, hey, you know what?

00:16:09.680 Some families are in a healthier structure than others.

00:16:13.100 For example.

00:16:13.420 And that's the way it is with everything in life.

00:16:15.160 But, yeah, but that's what we.

00:16:16.340 Everything.

00:16:16.620 But that's, but that's the whole point, is two parent homes are better.

00:16:20.680 Like, there's no even, there's not even.

00:16:22.860 There's no even. 0.51

00:16:23.900 We didn't say perfect, but there is no, like, there should be no disagreement that two parents in the home is better.

00:16:30.880 One hundred, I don't, I, no, there is disagreement.

00:16:33.540 Because if you have a two-parental household, and you have one of the parents, like, for example, leading a whole lifestyle, that's not a healthy lifestyle.

00:16:41.620 Leading a what?

00:16:42.620 A whole lifestyle, like, let's say, like, either the mom or dad is constantly out, like, cheating, bringing those problems at home.

00:16:49.880 That's not a good, like, I would say they're better off separate.

00:16:52.720 If you have a relationship, wait, if you have a relationship where one of the parents is constantly hitting the other, that's not healthy either.

00:17:00.060 Your child.

00:17:01.260 Can I, can I tell you something?

00:17:02.860 It's interesting that, like, women, it's like, I can't go a single show without abuse being brought up. 1.00

00:17:07.000 It's really funny because, like, it's the propaganda.

00:17:09.480 They added this propaganda in the 1900s to make women think if they submit to men that basically you're just going to be abused.

00:17:16.160 Also, what about the statistics of the literal fact that the majority of people who are struggling with things like mental health conditions, which, obviously, you were talking about earlier, majority of criminals, majority of problems that we have in our society, most of them grew up in a single-parent household.

00:17:37.580 Okay, there's two things to take into account here.

00:17:40.120 I wonder if you're taking into account, like, the financial level and income because, yeah, guess what?

00:17:45.480 Even if you're a single-parent household, if you have, let's say, your mom has a lot of money or your dad has a lot of money, chances are you're going to be a lot better than a two-parent household.

00:17:54.140 Okay, do you know what's so crazy?

00:17:55.340 You keep going back to this where money is better than family.

00:17:58.120 I'm talking about Western society right now.

00:17:59.800 No, no, but even in a Western society.

00:18:01.620 Yeah, in a Western society.

00:18:02.080 Like, why is a money better than a father?

00:18:04.800 Because that's what it is at the end of the day.

00:18:07.240 It's never a single father home.

00:18:08.740 It's almost always a single mother home.

00:18:10.480 So you're basically saying that money replaces fatherhood.

00:18:13.220 And you know what that is?

00:18:14.340 No, it's funny because that is the conclusion that most Western women come to because in the last hundred years, when women have gotten the opportunity to take money over a dad, that is what we do. 0.99

00:18:24.760 And that's why we shouldn't vote.

00:18:26.700 And that's why we shouldn't have all these privileges. 0.99

00:18:29.200 And that's why we shouldn't go to these goddamn therapists that just tell you to get divorced. 1.00

00:18:33.000 Because when women get power over men, they abuse it. 1.00

00:18:36.460 And it's from the horse's mouth.

00:18:38.420 We're not going to pretend that in a society, money doesn't matter at all.

00:18:43.880 Okay?

00:18:44.280 Like, that is just like, you know, la la land.

00:18:46.500 That's delusional.

00:18:46.880 No, family is more important than money.

00:18:49.080 Family is...

00:18:49.460 Family, a father in the home is more valuable than anything money can buy.

00:18:54.220 Okay, a good father.

00:18:56.000 Let's be clear.

00:18:56.660 No, but hold on.

00:18:57.100 Because if you're in an abusive situation...

00:18:59.100 Why do you always go to abuse?

00:19:01.700 Always abusive.

00:19:02.280 Why do you always go to abuse?

00:19:04.320 Because why...

00:19:04.980 What is it?

00:19:05.380 One in four women are abused? 0.98

00:19:06.820 It's a big statistic.

00:19:07.820 Because women one-sided, one-sided, one-sided... 1.00

00:19:10.080 I think just physical, even.

00:19:12.180 No, they include everything.

00:19:13.740 They include verbal abuse, mental abuse.

00:19:15.680 In one-sided abuse, women are more likely to hit men than men are likely to hit women. 0.61

00:19:19.560 When it comes to one-sided abuse, which means...

00:19:22.640 Because in most abusive situations, they're hitting each other.

00:19:26.000 When one person's hitting the other and it's not retaliated, women are more likely to do it to men than men are to do it to women. 0.61

00:19:32.560 We all know that the police don't believe women. 1.00

00:19:35.160 I've been hit by a woman. 0.97

00:19:36.200 And that's messed up.

00:19:37.060 But the point that I'm trying to make is that, hey, you know what?

00:19:40.120 There are certain situations, whether it be abuse or just say hoeing around, it doesn't just have to be one. 0.96

00:19:45.560 Where, yeah, if you have an unstable parent in the household, you know, threatening your child's livelihood, threatening the stability, yeah, you're better off away from them.

00:19:54.760 But it's like, you know, it's so crazy because, again, you go back to abuse.

00:19:58.900 Abuse, abuse, abuse, abuse.

00:19:59.280 It's not just abuse.

00:20:00.120 We can use a hoeing around example. 0.99

00:20:02.020 We can use the one where, you know, they're bringing a random other people into the relationship dynamic of the family.

00:20:06.560 But it's always like, this kind of goes back to how women think we just operate out of fear a lot.

00:20:10.480 So it's like always like, what could go wrong?

00:20:11.960 What could go wrong?

00:20:12.500 And when the goal really needs to be families should be together.

00:20:16.340 Fathers are so important to the development of the child.

00:20:19.580 And I am so tired of women with two parents whining about their childhood. 1.00

00:20:24.700 We had two parents.

00:20:25.600 We had it better than most people do.

00:20:28.020 And it's like, then we're going to say, oh, it's not perfect.

00:20:30.340 So, therefore, it's not always a healthy environment.

00:20:33.180 Fatherhood is extremely important.

00:20:34.640 I'm not disagreeing with that.

00:20:36.000 What I'm disagreeing with is this idea that it's like always going to be better than an unstable father.

00:20:41.180 But no one said that.

00:20:42.020 No one said that.

00:20:43.300 Okay, but then when you're talking about like single family households, how they're ruining society, et cetera, et cetera. 1.00

00:20:48.240 They are ruining society.

00:20:49.140 Well, I think you have to take into consideration like, hey, you know what?

00:20:53.020 A lot of these like situations are caused because of instability in the household.

00:20:56.740 But it's not a lot.

00:20:57.400 It's the minority.

00:20:58.120 It's the minority.

00:20:58.660 And no one's saying that the people who go through these awful situations of things like abuse, drug addiction, all of that stuff, the things that can't be helped, that is awful.

00:21:07.620 And no one is sitting here and saying, well, they should have just stayed.

00:21:11.500 Right?

00:21:11.820 No one is saying that.

00:21:12.820 But we're talking, we're having a broad conversation about the state of society.

00:21:16.640 And the truth is the majority of people who have grown up in single parent households, they're not the exception to the rule.

00:21:25.020 And what you're talking about is the exception to the rule.

00:21:26.940 And I don't think anyone here is denying that the exception to the rule exists.

00:21:30.200 But if we're going to stay founded in reality, we have to be able to talk about the general consensus.

00:21:36.300 Well, yeah, aside from the exceptions.

00:21:37.640 I feel like you're over-inflating the exception to try and make it a rule.

00:21:41.180 This is like, what about is it?

00:21:42.680 It's just like, it's just there's always something else.

00:21:45.360 There's always something else.

00:21:46.340 There's always another scenario, another situation.

00:21:48.200 Yes, it can happen.

00:21:49.020 Whenever we speak, we're not speaking up in absolute.

00:21:51.620 So when you say, oh, well, it could be abusive.

00:21:53.780 It could be a hole.

00:21:54.400 Of course they could be abusive.

00:21:55.700 Of course they could be a hole.

00:21:56.780 That's, you know, that's what happens, right?

00:21:58.440 But what is the, what is the, what is.

00:22:00.920 Actually, can I say one thing?

00:22:02.220 Do you know what the solution to this is?

00:22:05.760 Fathers.

00:22:06.160 Fathers, because fathers are supposed to vet the men we pick. 0.83

00:22:10.220 That's the real solution.

00:22:12.020 Fathers.

00:22:13.360 Fathers don't pick abusive men.

00:22:15.420 They want what's best for their daughter.

00:22:17.260 Well, that's.

00:22:17.660 But the problem is, again, was women have gotten more choice. 1.00

00:22:20.920 What have they chosen? 0.99

00:22:21.720 To be by our damn selves and take money from the government instead of fathers. 0.98

00:22:25.420 And then when, when there are situations like that, what, what is the, what is the slogan? 0.99

00:22:30.200 Daddy issues.

00:22:30.940 There's a reason.

00:22:31.920 Well, that kind of like contradicts your own point.

00:22:35.000 Because the whole idea is that, hey, guess what?

00:22:37.380 There are bad fathers out there that would pick bad spouses for their children. 0.99

00:22:41.240 They don't care about their children very much.

00:22:43.080 Or they're bad fathers themselves.

00:22:44.680 That's not what I said.

00:22:45.700 No, that's not what I said.

00:22:46.920 Did you say fathers are the solution to this problem?

00:22:48.680 I said fathers are the most important thing to a child's upbringing.

00:22:52.640 A kid needs a father.

00:22:53.840 Yeah, but you also said that, like, oh, you know, if fathers just chose their, you know, spouses. 0.99

00:22:58.860 I would say women get pregnant for men that do not wish to be fathers often and don't really give a shit about them. 0.92

00:23:07.200 A lot of times because they're trying to trap a guy. 0.98

00:23:09.520 And I think that's a bad situation.

00:23:11.800 And I think that that's why it's important that we have fathers to vet the men that we choose.

00:23:15.940 Yeah, but that's a problem within itself because you have those bad fathers that keep the cycle going.

00:23:22.500 Like, not everybody has a good father that can choose a good spouse for them.

00:23:25.700 You're making it as if the bad fathers are the majority.

00:23:28.060 Yeah, they are the minority, 100%.

00:23:30.380 This is a bad narrative to push because you're making it seem as if.

00:23:32.640 Because the way you're saying it, for it to be that big of a problem, it means that it has to be the majority of fathers that are bad.

00:23:40.260 But if it is not the majority of fathers that are bad, then you should stop pushing it as a narrative.

00:23:43.660 No, I think it's fair to say that there is like a strong percentage, maybe not majority, of people who are bad fathers.

00:23:50.680 I disagree.

00:23:51.440 This is like that African thing again. 1.00

00:23:53.580 Okay.

00:23:54.480 Speaking as a parent, speaking as a parent, I can tell you, Pearl's definitely right.

00:23:58.500 So I'm called, I mean, I've got an 18-year-old, a 13-year-old, a 1-year-old, right?

00:24:02.140 Same, same, same, same mom.

00:24:04.580 Now, naturally, we're called a parent, no matter how it gets between us, because we both understand that we're both needed in the kid's life.

00:24:11.740 We find a way to stay amicable.

00:24:14.620 Now, the alternative would be, oh, I don't care because we're not getting on leave my kid's life.

00:24:18.760 So what you're saying, I'm saying to you both parents, like the problem happens is that sometimes when both parents fall out, if they can't put the kids first, that's when it turns into a lot of what you're talking about.

00:24:29.300 But parents that can say what Pearl's saying and say, you know, actually, it is about the child.

00:24:32.780 And actually, I've got, like, for example, I've got a daughter.

00:24:35.260 I'm going to pick a boyfriend.

00:24:36.660 She might not like it, but I'm going to be there to vet.

00:24:38.960 I'm going to be there to play that role.

00:24:40.100 And that is important to stop, you know, perpetrating the same circles that we're speaking about.

00:24:43.900 I mean, think about it. 1.00

00:24:44.740 We make the stupidest buying decisions. 1.00

00:24:47.140 Do you know what I mean? 1.00

00:24:47.480 Like, we make 80% of consumer buying decisions, even though we make less money.

00:24:51.300 What does that tell us?

00:24:52.440 We're not very logical.

00:24:53.380 We don't make good decisions.

00:24:54.400 Why on earth would we pick good partners?

00:24:56.000 I think when it comes to the consumer point, at least a lot of that, at least my understanding, comes from, like, household expenses.

00:25:03.740 So, like, you know, the mothers are usually the ones, like, buying groceries, like, buying clean products. 0.99

00:25:07.420 I mean, that's what they tell you, but I see every mother with fake nails, Botox, and fake hair. 1.00

00:25:13.500 It's like, and a pound of makeup.

00:25:16.180 Come on.

00:25:17.140 I feel like, I don't know.

00:25:19.800 I disagree with that.

00:25:21.520 Because, like, if you think about it, like, for example, the cosmetic industry.

00:25:24.600 I used to work in the cosmetic industry at a counter selling makeup.

00:25:28.240 And, like, that is not a household expense.

00:25:30.260 Yet women will come and spend hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of dollars on things that they don't need, potentially just because, yeah, for their own selfish reasons. 1.00

00:25:41.220 And, like, going back to the fathers and particularly when it comes to the legal system, like Pearl was saying, men are disadvantaged in this society and especially in the legal system for partly the reason that you said.

00:25:54.600 Where we're just viewing men as these, like, abusive, scary perpetrators that just hurt children and do all these bad things.

00:26:01.420 And we're not saying, like Christine said, that it doesn't happen.

00:26:03.920 It does happen.

00:26:05.140 But, like, that narrative is so dangerous because most men are not like that.

00:26:10.080 Most men are good men.

00:26:11.060 Most men love their children.

00:26:12.340 And most men should have access to their children.

00:26:15.040 Yet, for some reason, the legal system says, no, give the child to the mother.

00:26:19.540 Why?

00:26:20.180 Just give it to the mother. 1.00

00:26:21.920 And then they don't actually assess the outcomes for the child.

00:26:25.420 They never did a study and said, when we put the children with the mother, do they have a better life? 0.92

00:26:30.400 Are they happier?

00:26:31.240 Do they have a more logical outlook on their lives?

00:26:34.380 Are they emotionally stable?

00:26:35.440 They never did those studies.

00:26:36.420 And the data actually supports the contrary.

00:26:38.500 It supports that, actually, the children who are with the father tend to do better.

00:26:42.040 Yeah.

00:26:42.320 Yeah, exactly.

00:26:43.400 So it's like, if we had these terrible fathers, why is it that the single dad homes are turning out better than the single mom homes? 0.93

00:26:49.340 Exactly.

00:26:49.580 Well, I would argue that, like, a single dad home most likely has, like, a larger—if you're able to—let me start here.

00:26:56.580 I do think that there are disadvantages towards being a man in the legal system.

00:26:59.860 I just want to make that clear.

00:27:01.140 Now, if you have the money to fight those disadvantages, chances are you're a lot more stable and you're a lot more, like, financially—

00:27:07.200 What do you mean, the money to fight?

00:27:08.620 Well, you agree that there's a—what is it?

00:27:10.820 That there's a disparity towards women. 0.83

00:27:12.060 You really equate money to everything.

00:27:14.380 Like, you keep going back to this.

00:27:15.780 Okay, the reason why I keep going back to it is because it's a fact that, at the very least, in Western society, hey, guess what?

00:27:22.780 Being able to have a lot of money means being able to give your child a good education, surround them with, like, very—

00:27:28.820 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:27:30.820 What just happened to Elon Musk?

00:27:32.800 What do you mean?

00:27:34.260 Elon Musk's kid.

00:27:35.420 You didn't hear about it?

00:27:36.660 What about—

00:27:37.180 Came out a woke liberal hating him.

00:27:40.240 Yeah.

00:27:40.440 Money doesn't buy good children.

00:27:42.920 Look at Michelle—look at the Obama's kids. 0.99

00:27:45.140 Look at Joe Biden's kids.

00:27:46.600 Those are all people with access to the best of the best.

00:27:49.940 Let me be clear.

00:27:50.760 It's money and good parenthood.

00:27:52.560 And I don't want to start, like, what is it, putting down good parenthood.

00:27:55.480 That was never my intention here.

00:27:56.860 My intention here is to show, like, hey, you know what?

00:27:59.280 Like, I don't think that the vast majority of single mothers just, you know, divorce out of whim.

00:28:04.400 I think there are structural issues that have to be addressed.

00:28:07.620 I would say they divorce out of selfishness.

00:28:09.640 And I would say that's the biggest thing. 0.98

00:28:12.140 Because the thing is, if you talk to, like, grandmothers, great-grandmothers, because we really have, like, one, maybe two generations, in my opinion, of just shitty wives, bad wives, overall, just bad.

00:28:21.320 And so—but if you talk to, like, the grandmothers, the great-grandmothers, divorce was never an option because they cared about the family more than themselves. 0.77

00:28:32.180 But now we have a generation of wives that care about themselves more than the family and their personal happiness. 1.00

00:28:37.260 And also—

00:28:37.780 The kids are supposed to be the most important thing.

00:28:40.600 Yeah, I think, again, I think that—

00:28:42.680 Would you agree with that?

00:28:43.420 The kids should be more important than you.

00:28:45.460 Yes.

00:28:46.020 Okay, okay, okay, wait, wait.

00:28:47.980 So if the kids are more important than you, wouldn't it be selfish to divorce for personal reasons?

00:28:52.980 Not necessarily.

00:28:54.120 Because if those personal reasons—

00:28:55.500 In general.

00:28:57.020 In general.

00:28:59.280 Can I finish a sentence and then you tell me?

00:29:01.060 No, no.

00:29:01.340 In general.

00:29:01.960 In general.

00:29:02.720 In general, yes.

00:29:04.260 Okay, so in general, it's selfish to divorce for yourself.

00:29:08.640 That's where I disagree because—

00:29:10.720 No, you just said you agree.

00:29:11.680 Well, no, let me—I have to finish your statement.

00:29:13.980 I have to put it in a context that makes sense.

00:29:15.600 Okay, I know, but because what you tend to do is just, like, go to these fringe—

00:29:19.300 Well, if this crazy thing happens, then—okay, but, like, in general.

00:29:22.980 Well, that's the thing.

00:29:23.820 It's not fringe, right?

00:29:25.300 We live—and I think this—we can argue this goes back to traditional gender roles. 0.51

00:29:28.940 We live in a society where, hey, like, a lot of women are doing a lot of, you know, labor outside the house, inside the house, you know, taking down two roles that people— 1.00

00:29:37.500 Okay, I have a question.

00:29:38.260 I have a question.

00:29:38.840 Do you think most modern chicks have recipes that they've learned from their grandma that have a cookbook of stuff that they know how to make? 1.00

00:29:45.920 Do you think that's the norm?

00:29:47.740 No.

00:29:48.380 Okay, okay.

00:29:49.020 Do you think, like, if you go into a random person, a random girl's car, is it neat most of the time?

00:29:56.140 No.

00:29:56.680 No.

00:29:56.820 Okay, so we've just—so now, just based off of all the people in this room shaking their heads at these things, we're showing women don't really have those traditional skills.

00:30:07.700 Okay, but why do women not have these traditional skills? 1.00

00:30:10.360 Because they didn't have fathers.

00:30:11.920 But anyway, it's my point.

00:30:16.340 Wait, so you're blaming it on men?

00:30:18.560 Wait, you're literally blaming it on men now.

00:30:20.940 No, listen.

00:30:21.800 No, the women forget it. 1.00

00:30:22.740 You're saying they didn't have fathers.

00:30:24.020 It's a man's fault, then. 1.00

00:30:25.100 It's not a man's fault.

00:30:25.960 You're saying they didn't have fathers, so that's why.

00:30:27.740 They didn't have fathers doesn't mean it's a man's fault.

00:30:29.440 Wait, so you chose not to have a father?

00:30:31.460 Do you know what a father means is a man's fault? 0.99

00:30:33.180 You can see the way you process information.

00:30:36.160 But anyways, my point is, I wanted to correct what you said.

00:30:38.800 You said the reason why single-father homes do better than single-mother homes is because the man would probably have money.

00:30:43.580 It has nothing to do with money.

00:30:44.820 The reason why single-father homes do better than single-mother homes is because men are generally better at instilling discipline in children than women. 0.74

00:30:52.700 You can tell that it's evident because men in society, the way we interact with each other, we tend to build hierarchical structures.

00:31:00.500 Women tend to build communal structures. 1.00

00:31:02.940 Now, men who are used to understanding what authority is and understanding what rules are, women typically believe that everybody in the group is equal.

00:31:11.580 No. Nah. So, by that alone, you can tell that when it comes to children, men always know how to set boundaries way better than women. 0.95

00:31:19.240 So, obviously, men will always have way better results in raising children than women. 0.99

00:31:22.980 And the reason, and I would say the reason that there are no fathers in the home is because women kick them out. 1.00

00:31:28.420 Because, I mean, we just talk, you agree, you know that men are discriminated against in the legal system.

00:31:34.760 Right? Yes?

00:31:35.620 To a certain extent, yeah.

00:31:36.520 Okay, you agree it's harder for them to get custody?

00:31:39.140 But.

00:31:39.500 Yes or no?

00:31:40.920 Is it harder for a man to get?

00:31:42.640 The problem is, most of the time they don't even fight for custody.

00:31:44.260 Is it? Please, please, go in good faith.

00:31:45.860 Yes, it's harder because they don't fight for custody.

00:31:47.760 Okay, okay. Why don't they fight for custody? 0.82

00:31:49.560 Then, because.

00:31:50.360 So, have you, okay. Do you know why? Do you know why? Like, genuinely, do you know why they don't fight for custody?

00:31:55.140 Well, I think a lot of them don't fight for custody because they think that to the get-go, they're not going to have a chance.

00:32:01.100 Okay. I think that's true.

00:32:03.100 Yeah.

00:32:03.440 Yeah, because the system is so stacked against them.

00:32:06.740 Right?

00:32:07.360 And a lot of them, you know, I know men on the brink of suicide that have been fighting for two, three years that their kids are a mile from them and they don't see them.

00:32:16.180 And so, a lot of men think, well, I don't want to go broke. I have no chance in this anyway.

00:32:21.700 But that's not their fault, right?

00:32:23.660 Yeah, I think.

00:32:24.220 Okay, and that's a reasonable conclusion to come to, right?

00:32:27.600 Okay, okay. So, it's harder for men to get custody. Yes or no?

00:32:31.560 Yes.

00:32:31.960 Yes, okay. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait. Can you wait? All right, thank you.

00:32:36.520 So, it's harder for guys to get custody. You know they have more to lose in divorce, right?

00:32:42.420 They typically lose more in divorce.

00:32:44.600 Than women? 0.99

00:32:45.240 Yes.

00:32:45.660 No.

00:32:45.840 Yes.

00:32:46.260 Okay.

00:32:46.640 Yeah.

00:32:47.500 We can't even do this conversation, man.

00:32:48.940 Okay.

00:32:49.380 No, I'm sorry. Alimony is like less than 10%. If you look at the long-term outcomes, and you even agreed with this earlier, women tend to have like a worse outcome after divorce.

00:32:57.780 Like, nobody wants money to single mothers. 0.99

00:32:59.620 They can't get it.

00:32:59.800 Okay, okay, okay. How could we tell who has worse outcomes?

00:33:05.800 At least when we look at like, oh, you're going to be like back to money. But yeah, it is. They tend to do worse monetarily.

00:33:12.220 They tend to do like worse, like in just like-

00:33:14.400 Well, you do. You do go back to money. I mean, I would disagree. I would go to two things you could look at.

00:33:20.080 Okay, number one, the children. Men want to be with their kids. Men love their children.

00:33:26.640 I know so many men that want to be with their kids. So many times, we phrase it as a chore that the women get the kids. 1.00

00:33:33.560 They get their kids. They get to see their kids. That is a good thing.

00:33:37.420 The second thing I would look at is suicide rates.

00:33:40.560 And you see an increase in men committing suicide after divorce.

00:33:45.040 Oftentimes, because they have no money, they don't have their kids, oftentimes the woman's disparaged their reputation, and they just don't see a way out. 1.00

00:33:53.360 Yeah, I think my biggest confusion is that earlier I asked you like, hey, would you be in favor of like parental leave?

00:34:01.000 And the reason why I asked that question in specific is because I agree, hey, custody is awarded to the primary caregiver that most of the time is women.

00:34:08.740 But if we allowed in our society to create spaces where men could take care of their children and not be punished-

00:34:14.880 I don't see that as a solution.

00:34:16.640 But then they would be higher primary caregivers.

00:34:18.840 Because women will always ask for more and more and more. 1.00

00:34:21.940 And this is just what I see is like, and in the same way, like you're from a two-parent loving home, and yet you still find a way to whine.

00:34:29.660 When did I whine about my family?

00:34:31.440 This is, I mean, you're whining about the, about that it's not perfect at a two-parent home.

00:34:35.880 Well, what I'm whining about-

00:34:36.840 And so, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:34:38.240 So, what I get is just women just like to whine and like to complain, and for whatever reason, that's what we do. 1.00

00:34:44.160 Well, I'm-

00:34:45.060 And so, Pony, she didn't even- her solution to the problem wasn't even to say the law should be changed where men get 50-50 custody of the bat. 0.97

00:34:53.880 Her solution to the problem was that men should do less work. 1.00

00:34:57.020 No, my solution to the problem is that men should be able to spend more time with their children and not be punished.

00:35:02.680 No, to do less work.

00:35:04.140 You didn't say-

00:35:04.800 No, I think raising- first of all, I think raising your children and spending time with them is work, but good work.

00:35:10.440 I think it's the work that everybody should do, okay?

00:35:12.780 Someone needs to provide.

00:35:14.360 Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

00:35:15.800 I'm saying that we live in an era of immense wealth, right?

00:35:19.720 We live in an era where companies should be, hey, you know what?

00:35:22.880 You're having children, you're contributing to this society, and you're a good worker.

00:35:26.780 So, hey, you shouldn't get punished.

00:35:28.660 You should live in an idealistic world.

00:35:30.240 Yeah, in a fair way.

00:35:30.960 Well, this isn't an idealistic world.

00:35:32.860 There's countries in Europe right now. 1.00

00:35:35.460 This is why we have this shit. 1.00

00:35:37.060 The reality is women always like to make everything like this. 1.00

00:35:46.460 I have a question.

00:35:49.740 Do you think that we have a higher standard of living than ever before in the West from 100 years ago?

00:35:55.520 Yeah.

00:35:56.340 And yet you're still whining.

00:35:57.820 You see it like it's the same thing.

00:35:59.460 It's like now we need more parental leave.

00:36:02.340 If I'm whining, then, like, we're in the same levels of whining, I guess, because I'm literally arguing right now that, hey, men should have more access to their children.

00:36:10.120 No, you know, but, okay, I would say that women should stop leaving. 1.00

00:36:14.200 I think that would be a better solution.

00:36:16.200 I think we should stop paying women to leave. 1.00

00:36:18.340 I think that would be the ultimate.

00:36:20.280 We could agree on that, right?

00:36:21.380 You shouldn't be paid to leave your husband.

00:36:24.240 Well, that's a thing.

00:36:25.120 They're still getting, they're still in a financial disadvantage when they leave their husband.

00:36:28.900 That's a problem.

00:36:29.660 But they still choose that.

00:36:31.580 And why do they choose that?

00:36:32.700 So how are, okay, if they're at a financial disadvantage, when they can kick their husband out of the house that he owns with one phone call?

00:36:40.600 They can, they can, they can, they can, it's common.

00:36:43.660 I think this is pretty anecdotal.

00:36:46.000 At least from what I've read, like, the result is.

00:36:47.980 Okay, how many men that have been divorced have you spoken to?

00:36:51.660 It's not about who I've spoken to.

00:36:53.160 But this is, but this is the problem we get into is like these, these liberal people think they know everything and they read some studies and Google some stuff online.

00:37:02.200 But the people that have actually spoken to the people and are actually like, I've spoken to a hundred guys who have said that.

00:37:07.640 All right.

00:37:07.740 But this is what, this is the issue that we were coming into earlier when you were like making, you were talking about Africa and the guys from Africa are like, no, this is what it's like. 0.93

00:37:17.100 And it's the same thing.

00:37:18.280 It's like, I genuinely think we can come to the best conclusions by what we see in front of us, what is in reality, and even just the reputations that things have.

00:37:26.500 Why do we have phrases like it's cheaper to keep her? 0.99

00:37:29.420 If, if men are doing so much better after divorce, why is that a phrase?

00:37:33.620 Okay.

00:37:34.300 I think when you say anecdotal evidence is enough, to me, that's crazy because I could have a completely different life anecdotal experience than you.

00:37:42.200 And guess what?

00:37:42.780 At the end of the day, they would both be equal because it's anecdotal.

00:37:45.900 That's why we.

00:37:46.400 Well, then you can look at the anecdotal evidence of, of say, you, you, you know, you, you broaden your sample in that case.

00:37:53.160 So you would look at the anecdotal evidence of everyone in this room and see which general narrative is more common than the other.

00:38:00.180 And that's why we have studies where we literally take the data of, you know, like.

00:38:04.260 Do you not think it's more important to take the data from the immediate vicinity?

00:38:08.460 Because at least that way you, you have a bit more validity in, in, in the sample that you have right in front of you.

00:38:13.680 Because that's like, say, if a hundred studies came out tomorrow, that the sky is green, we can all read that.

00:38:18.660 Right.

00:38:19.400 But realistically, you can look.

00:38:22.220 Okay.

00:38:22.460 To me, that's radically different than like, oh, just getting the sample data size from this room because there's something called selection bias.

00:38:29.460 And that's, that, that, that's, that's a problem that happens in general.

00:38:32.400 Right.

00:38:32.820 We surround ourselves with people who generally think like us, have similar life experiences than us.

00:38:37.620 Okay.

00:38:37.980 You know, that's how it really.

00:38:38.880 This is what a podcast, man.

00:38:40.160 I think, I think about, where do you live?

00:38:42.220 Where are you from?

00:38:42.800 I'm from Puerto Rico.

00:38:43.980 I was born and raised there.

00:38:45.080 Okay.

00:38:45.520 Okay.

00:38:45.840 And where, where do you live now?

00:38:47.100 I live in Florida.

00:38:48.380 Okay.

00:38:48.600 So I just think from my point of view, like how many guests have we logged here?

00:38:54.860 At this point, well over 700.

00:38:56.780 Yeah.

00:38:57.020 Well over 700 guests, street interviews.

00:38:59.540 Like we aren't as different as people think like that.

00:39:02.640 That's the biggest conclusion that I've come to men and women just kind of have general things that are true about them.

00:39:07.920 And when it comes to like the legal system, I think it's really silly if you, if you have any other conclusion other than men have a harder time in it.

00:39:16.680 Oh, I think, um, what I'm trying to say or what I've said before is that I don't think it's enough to just go by anecdotal experience.

00:39:24.000 I think, um, so what's your definitive statement?

00:39:26.640 Like what I, cause you just kind of, I think men, what is it?

00:39:30.100 I think, do you, do you think men in general are good fathers?

00:39:33.260 Um, yeah.

00:39:34.680 Okay.

00:39:35.180 Do you think men should be in the home? 1.00

00:39:37.460 Yeah.

00:39:37.960 Okay.

00:39:38.280 Do you think it should be 50, 50 custody off the bat?

00:39:41.160 No.

00:39:41.780 Okay.

00:39:42.200 Why?

00:39:42.600 Because I think the whole idea of like the primary caregiver is the fact that like, okay, um, this man is still outside providing, they might not necessarily have like the time or like resources once they divorce to be able to like take care of their children properly.

00:39:57.760 So it should be, it should be what's best for the kid, right?

00:39:59.860 It should be best.

00:40:00.700 Yeah.

00:40:00.860 The primary care.

00:40:01.500 Okay.

00:40:01.740 So it should be what's best for the child then.

00:40:03.840 Yeah.

00:40:04.240 Okay.

00:40:04.640 So then why don't we give custody to the dads who, who do better in every metric raising children?

00:40:09.620 Okay.

00:40:10.220 They're actually, they're also less likely to kill their kids.

00:40:13.460 Again, the problem.

00:40:14.560 No, no, no, no, no.

00:40:15.060 No, no, no, no, no.

00:40:15.760 But I'm saying, but I'm saying go off the data.

00:40:17.840 You love data.

00:40:18.640 Go off the data.

00:40:19.220 I do love the data.

00:40:20.120 Believe the data.

00:40:21.040 Believe the numbers.

00:40:21.860 Hey, here's, here's two problems.

00:40:22.940 As I said before, one, I don't know exactly what study you're citing.

00:40:26.360 I'll look at it later.

00:40:27.300 And you know, I may, I can like talk about it later as well once I read it.

00:40:30.880 But then second of all, again, a lot of these men already have, if they're going to fight in the court system, a financial advantage, which gives them like the opportunity to raise their children.

00:40:39.600 I think maybe it's possible that it could be because of discipline, but again, you would literally have to go into that.

00:40:45.500 How do they have a financial advantage when before they can get, before they even get to the court date?

00:40:49.720 So COVID pushed a lot of these trials out like a year, two years before the men could even get to court to fight for their kids.

00:40:57.040 And they're, and I'll tell you what happens.

00:40:59.200 A lot of times they're paying for a mortgage that they've been kicked out of.

00:41:02.460 A lot of these guys are living out of their cars.

00:41:05.080 And, and no, wait, wait.

00:41:07.020 See, you listen to respond.

00:41:08.400 You don't listen to listen from people that know more than you.

00:41:11.220 I'm doing a documentary on this.

00:41:12.600 You see, there's a lawyer right next to you.

00:41:14.220 You listen to respond.

00:41:15.540 And so on top of that, on top of that, she can put him on child support.

00:41:19.960 And, and she could do that for two years before he even gets to court. 0.99

00:41:23.920 So how is he at a financial advantage when the system has been draining him?

00:41:28.440 Women are a net tax loss. 1.00

00:41:30.260 You're not listening. 0.95

00:41:31.000 Men pay more than they, men pay more than women in taxes. 0.78

00:41:34.840 Well, you just described, you just described one of my friends, actually, that I've got the kennel with.

00:41:38.720 That's where Luna is.

00:41:39.920 So he's been, his daughter, she must be coming up to five now.

00:41:44.060 He was engaged to his missus.

00:41:46.580 They had a child.

00:41:47.780 They, they, they bought, he bought a house.

00:41:49.200 He did, he was doing everything.

00:41:50.120 And I'll be honest with you.

00:41:50.880 I'll be real.

00:41:51.740 She was, she was dead.

00:41:52.820 And I don't even know why he did all this for this.

00:41:54.220 No, he did.

00:41:54.640 I don't know why.

00:41:55.360 No.

00:41:56.780 For a man?

00:41:57.980 No, she was dead. 1.00

00:41:58.820 She's a dead thing. 1.00

00:41:59.380 I don't, if I say she, if I say she's a two out of 10, I'm being kind.

00:42:03.540 But you know what happened?

00:42:04.540 You know what happened?

00:42:05.360 I'll tell you what happened.

00:42:06.400 She caught him at a point in his life when he felt low.

00:42:08.900 And when a woman catches you at a point in your foot, when you feel low and she's around you, it can seep in.

00:42:13.580 So for some reason, he moved off the ends.

00:42:15.500 He went and she was some fat ting as well. 1.00

00:42:18.160 Like, he just went and met.

00:42:18.800 Like, so he got engaged to it.

00:42:20.180 So he had a baby with it.

00:42:21.760 Moved to Kent.

00:42:23.960 Living the life, whatever.

00:42:25.160 Then she had the baby.

00:42:26.540 Then she started getting postnatal depression, right?

00:42:30.480 Then he discovered that she was taking pills.

00:42:32.760 And basically, she was a complete different woman than we thought. 1.00

00:42:35.580 So now he's trying to, like, speak to her, trying to help her.

00:42:38.520 And she's just snapping out on him, hitting him.

00:42:40.160 So he's like, bro, I can't deal with this no more, innit?

00:42:42.420 So he wants to leave.

00:42:43.840 You know what she does? 1.00

00:42:45.280 This is during COVID times as well.

00:42:47.080 She calls the police.

00:42:48.120 Yeah?

00:42:48.480 Police come.

00:42:49.260 Black man, white woman in Kent.

00:42:50.800 Yeah?

00:42:52.020 I already know.

00:42:53.360 Okay, the reason why I say it like that, because I'm trying to set up the scene for you, yeah?

00:42:57.540 So you see it, right?

00:42:58.540 Police have come.

00:42:59.480 My friend is a data analyst.

00:43:01.000 On top of that, he works for the police.

00:43:02.460 Could you imagine that?

00:43:03.200 Yeah, he was working for the police as a contractor.

00:43:05.420 The same place that he works for came to arrest him.

00:43:07.920 They arrested him initially, took him straight away.

00:43:09.500 From that moment, which was now about three years ago, he hasn't seen his daughter yet.

00:43:14.600 He hasn't had one access to his daughter.

00:43:16.420 Due to COVID-19 and other stuff, you know, he had to buy the woman out of the home. 1.00

00:43:21.000 He had to literally buy the woman out of the home. 0.99

00:43:23.300 But he's at a financial advantage, I thought.

00:43:25.220 Wait, you weren't listening to me.

00:43:26.640 Can I just tell you this?

00:43:27.480 I just want to tell you this story, just so you talk about anecdotal, but all we can,

00:43:31.280 you talk about stats and anecdotal, but I want to give you a story that my friend that's going through this,

00:43:34.940 so I'm not going to say his name, but he's going through this right now.

00:43:37.660 So now he has a black daughter that has been raised in a white home that has not seen her black father.

00:43:42.140 She has no idea who this man is.

00:43:43.860 So by the time he actually gets through courts and he has an opportunity to see this girl,

00:43:48.760 it's already messed up.

00:43:49.860 So what is he doing now?

00:43:50.800 He's making money for the daughter when he grows up.

00:43:54.420 He's writing letters.

00:43:55.080 He's doing all, because at this point, he has to just go to her when she's older and say,

00:43:58.580 listen, this is what your mom did to me and this is what I've created.

00:44:02.020 And like, the reason why I'm saying it is because it's hurting him and I'm watching him go through it.

00:44:07.000 But at the same time, I'm telling you, bro, why did you breed up this girl? 0.77

00:44:09.540 You should have like, you know what I'm trying to say?

00:44:10.800 No, no, but I'm being real because she's a dead thing.

00:44:12.880 And now a dead thing is putting for you all of this.

00:44:14.960 But when women say that, men want to see their kids. 0.96

00:44:17.360 Another one of my guys spent 50 grand trying to see his daughter.

00:44:20.240 50 grand.

00:44:20.800 And when I say to him, why didn't your missus just take the money? 0.97

00:44:23.700 He was like, no, she just wanted to put me through hell, bro.

00:44:25.420 I could have given her the money, but she didn't want the money. 0.99

00:44:27.300 She just wanted to put me through her head.

00:44:28.520 And at the end of the 50 grand, you know what he said to me?

00:44:30.620 It was worth every penny because now I don't have to deal with this woman. 1.00

00:44:34.100 There's something set in stone that me and my daughter don't have to do this.

00:44:36.740 So sometimes when I hear these stories, I think about all the men that are really wannabe providers.

00:44:41.260 And I always think to myself, it seems to be the men that provide,

00:44:44.280 the men that got jobs, the men that doing something for themselves,

00:44:46.940 their women always put them through stress. 1.00

00:44:48.580 But the men that have multiple baby mamas who don't actually do anything,

00:44:51.960 they're the ones that their mom don't, yeah, he just comes around and just picks up the kid

00:44:54.280 and just takes him out.

00:44:55.360 So yeah, that's all I'm saying.

00:44:56.640 I just think for a lot of men that you have to be careful of who you choose to lie down with.

00:45:01.680 And women, like women aren't making it easier for men. 1.00

00:45:04.500 And the suicide rates are high and the stress.

00:45:05.960 And to the point where he has to put it to the back of his mind now and say,

00:45:08.320 listen, like if I don't see her again, I don't see her.

00:45:11.100 But when I do see her at 18, she's going to have this.

00:45:13.760 Can I say something?

00:45:16.320 Okay, wait. 0.99

00:45:17.040 You can speak to so many men and almost every man knows a man that's going through some shit. 0.92

00:45:23.240 So for you to say it's a total experience, it means that you haven't spoken to as many men 0.97

00:45:27.820 as you should be speaking to.

00:45:29.080 I want to acknowledge everything you guys said.

00:45:31.220 And I want to, because I feel like I was like trying to tell you guys something

00:45:34.080 and you guys weren't listening.

00:45:35.380 But now think about everything you just said.

00:45:38.280 How much financial stress a person had to go through?

00:45:40.740 How much money just to see their children, right?

00:45:43.080 So that's why I'm saying for the men.

00:45:44.820 So you would agree with that, that men have a harder time financially.

00:45:51.220 Yes.

00:45:51.640 In divorce, right?

00:45:53.260 Right?

00:45:53.560 After divorce, you would agree.

00:45:55.880 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:45:57.880 I'll let you finish, but I'm asking really quick.

00:46:00.580 The long-term outcomes?

00:46:01.680 No.

00:46:02.240 But the short-term, the court battle, sure.

00:46:04.180 Okay, but 50, 50.

00:46:06.540 Wait, but can you guys let me finish?

00:46:08.160 The long-term outcomes has nothing to do with the divorce.

00:46:10.460 We're saying men lose in divorce.

00:46:13.580 What then happens after is due to the woman's choices. 1.00

00:46:16.780 It's not because she lost in divorce.

00:46:18.400 It's because she doesn't know how to. 0.90

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JustPearlyThings - October 11, 2023

Massive DEBATE On How Women RUINED Everything in 2023

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