JustPearlyThings - April 07, 2023


Men Hating Feminists Asked Pearl The WEIRDEST QUESTION


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15 minutes

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224

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In this episode, we discuss the Johnny Depp and Amber Guyger situation and the impact it has had on the way we view men and women in general. We also discuss the difference between women and men when it comes to domestic abuse.

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00:00:00.000 But personally, like, I can't really speak on information that, like, like we said, believe all women.
00:00:06.200 Like, I don't know you. That's fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fair. That's fair.
00:00:10.340 In my life experience, I've definitely seen men be more violent towards women.
00:00:16.700 And I haven't ever seen a woman be violent towards her partner.
00:00:21.680 I've seen girls hit guys and nobody does anything. 1.00
00:00:25.820 I haven't seen that.
00:00:27.100 And what kind of hit? Like a little knock on the shoulder or, like...
00:00:32.500 I think any hit is unacceptable. And if you hit a man, you should expect to get hit back.
00:00:38.160 Yeah.
00:00:40.360 Why would you hit someone and not expect to get hit back?
00:00:43.800 Men don't have that. Like, why are women special? 1.00
00:00:47.680 Like, why do we get a special privilege that men don't get? 0.89
00:00:50.560 If he hits him, he's getting hit back.
00:00:53.580 I don't think anyone should be hitting anybody.
00:00:56.080 Yeah, I agree.
00:00:57.060 I was just meaning, like, in a playful conversation, like, when you hit someone's shoulder or something.
00:01:02.560 Oh, okay. You're talking about, like, tapping.
00:01:04.000 Yeah, I don't mean, like, actual violence.
00:01:06.980 But I don't know.
00:01:09.240 I haven't really seen women being violent towards men.
00:01:12.360 If you have in your own life, then I would have to ask you where you're from, where you see that.
00:01:18.080 Yeah.
00:01:18.240 And you see men being violent towards women all the time?
00:01:23.700 I've definitely had situations in my personal life where my friends have been victims of domestic abuse.
00:01:33.760 But here's the thing.
00:01:34.960 She didn't say that she witnessed it or she saw the situation happen.
00:01:38.520 So, again, you're just going off of someone's word.
00:01:41.760 Why?
00:01:42.100 Because she believes women more than men.
00:01:44.260 What do you know?
00:01:46.700 Where what?
00:01:47.540 Say that again. 0.71
00:01:48.140 Where a friend of mine has been a victim of domestic abuse or, like, marital abuse from a family situation.
00:01:57.080 So, that's, I haven't seen, like, I don't know.
00:02:02.840 And also, though, like, it is true that men shouldn't be hit.
00:02:06.880 Like, how he can't really defend himself.
00:02:09.760 Yeah.
00:02:10.520 But he can also leave the situation a lot easier than a woman who is being abused.
00:02:15.920 Because they're typically smaller than their partners.
00:02:19.600 And physically, not the same, like, kind of match.
00:02:23.480 Okay, guys, you'll notice this trend with modern women and feminists. 1.00
00:02:28.720 Whenever you try to hold a woman accountable, they move the goalposts and say, well, but he could leave. 1.00
00:02:35.080 Imagine.
00:02:35.720 Imagine.
00:02:36.060 Let's flip the script, right?
00:02:39.180 If she's getting hit, girl's getting hit, well, she could have left. 0.98
00:02:44.340 She could leave.
00:02:46.340 Is that right?
00:02:49.300 Is that how we should talk?
00:02:50.240 Do you think men are believed when they're victims of domestic abuse?
00:02:58.180 Maybe not in the past, but I think now more, especially after this Johnny Depp situation.
00:03:08.880 Okay.
00:03:09.480 Okay, well, I appreciate you sitting down and talking to me.
00:03:13.060 That's it?
00:03:13.600 Yeah, yeah.
00:03:14.200 I mean, you've been going for a while.
00:03:15.600 Yeah, I see you out here doing this, but I'm just wondering, like, for myself, I watched you do this a few different interviews.
00:03:24.460 But I'm just wondering, like, what exactly are you getting from these kind of conversations?
00:03:30.820 Do you find that you yourself are learning more about people, or are you just kind of pushing the agenda?
00:03:37.360 Because to me, like, honestly, I just heard kind of like you're sticking to the same talking points, and I didn't really hear a lot of, like, discussion from your end.
00:03:46.180 To me, I just get public opinions on stuff, so I just get people's public opinions, and I also, I have two, a lot of the reason I do what I do is I advocate for men's rights.
00:04:00.460 So I have two brothers that, like, committed, they tried to commit suicide, so I just think the world is harder for men than the media really lets it be.
00:04:08.600 And I think feminism, yeah, I think it's tough on men. 1.00
00:04:13.660 I don't think they advocate for men the way they should.
00:04:17.060 I'm sorry to hear that.
00:04:18.020 Yeah.
00:04:18.980 But also, it's, if we uplift women, men will also be uplifted, too.
00:04:29.020 Okay, if you uplift women, for what?
00:04:31.060 For being women? 0.99
00:04:32.420 Why should we just be uplifted for being alive?
00:04:36.000 Like, that's the stupidest shit I've ever heard in my life.
00:04:38.180 Like, okay, let's uplift men for just being men.
00:04:42.720 Like, no!
00:04:44.280 No!
00:04:45.060 Fuck, frickin'.
00:04:46.020 And so it's not one without the other.
00:04:49.600 Like, surely...
00:04:50.280 We do uplift women.
00:04:52.640 All the time.
00:04:54.200 There's women's empowerment all the time. 1.00
00:04:56.060 There's no men's empowerment. 0.59
00:04:58.340 But are you aware about the abortion rights in the United States?
00:05:02.340 And what do you have to say about that?
00:05:04.780 Like, women, I think, just had their rights taken away from an abortion in certain...
00:05:08.900 I don't need the right to an abortion. 0.99
00:05:10.380 I'm careful with who I sleep with and I use protection.
00:05:13.080 Yeah, but...
00:05:13.440 Why do I need the right to an abortion? 1.00
00:05:14.980 If you're raped.
00:05:16.200 That's less than 1% of abortions. 1.00
00:05:19.080 But it's still...
00:05:19.780 So, but let's talk about the 99% of abortions.
00:05:22.720 Because that's what girls do. 1.00
00:05:23.860 When they don't have a good argument, they look for the exception to the rule.
00:05:26.180 That's the exception.
00:05:28.300 I know people who have been raped.
00:05:31.180 And so a lot of rapes also go underreported.
00:05:34.260 Because it's a very shameful thing to happen to women. 1.00
00:05:36.920 And also, they don't have the evidence.
00:05:39.380 And so it's even more shameful to go and accuse someone of a crime when they don't have evidence.
00:05:44.780 What evidence do you have that it's underreported?
00:05:48.700 How do you know that it's underreported?
00:05:53.140 Because women who get raped don't 100% always go and report it. 0.98
00:05:58.080 How do you know?
00:05:59.720 Because I know people that that has happened to.
00:06:01.880 How do you know, by and large, that it's a big issue?
00:06:05.460 Because you're just automatically believing women without the evidence. 0.52
00:06:09.600 Which goes back to what I'm saying.
00:06:12.120 If my friend has trauma and she's shaking like this.
00:06:15.460 We're not talking about individuals.
00:06:18.200 We're talking about by and large.
00:06:19.400 Yeah, but one group comprises.
00:06:22.160 One person is a part of a group.
00:06:24.320 And a group, for example, feminism, isn't like there's not a president of feminism. 0.93
00:06:31.160 There isn't someone saying this is the objective of feminism. 1.00
00:06:34.680 That doesn't exist.
00:06:35.460 The group is comprised of people with individual stories with their own individual background.
00:06:40.620 But I need facts, data, and statistics for you to back it up.
00:06:43.960 But if somebody is saying...
00:06:45.400 So if you look at statistics, for example, you can look at something like unemployment.
00:06:50.740 You know how unemployment is calculated?
00:06:53.300 Unemployment is calculated by when someone is actively looking for a job.
00:06:58.400 But once they stop looking for a job, then it's no longer part of the calculation.
00:07:02.940 And so that skews the statistic.
00:07:06.240 You can think also about rape statistic.
00:07:09.000 If someone isn't reporting what has happened to them, how can you have a statistic about something being underreported if they haven't reported it?
00:07:19.080 Of course I can say my friend, that has happened to my friend, because that's a real story that I know.
00:07:25.200 So how could I honestly answer a statistic of something that's been underreported?
00:07:30.960 There is no reportage of that.
00:07:33.020 That doesn't make logical sense.
00:07:34.600 No, but I'm saying you need to have some data.
00:07:36.280 Like if we're talking about abortion, right?
00:07:37.920 That's what we're talking about.
00:07:38.980 And I said less than 1% of abortions are for grape, okay?
00:07:43.680 And so you said, oh, well, it's underreported.
00:07:45.820 So I said, okay, if that's your argument, then give me data that a large percentage of those grapes are from abortion.
00:07:52.080 And it doesn't seem like you have it.
00:07:54.500 Is there any data that shows that all rape that has been reported has been...
00:07:59.980 I'm not saying that every single grape is reported.
00:08:06.640 What I'm saying is you need to prove that it's by and large a problem where it's statistically significant.
00:08:13.640 Because it's like we're moving the goalpost here.
00:08:16.080 Because I said, let's talk about the 99% of abortions instead of the 1%, the exception.
00:08:21.440 And you're trying to imply it's not an exception.
00:08:23.340 And I'm going to say, if you're going to say it's not an exception, I need some data or evidence that that's true.
00:08:27.680 Because if that's what you're saying, then you're going back to the original argument, which is we just believe all women.
00:08:32.620 And it's not believe all women, but it's believe, like, individual stories that you paid attention to, that you understand the background.
00:08:40.980 And those things are comprised of, like, that's the feminist movement, is individual stories. 1.00
00:08:46.780 So you can't generalize and say...
00:08:49.060 Well, if I know you personally, sure.
00:08:52.820 I'll probably believe a friend if I know her personally.
00:08:56.060 But if I don't know you, why would I just believe you?
00:08:58.080 Like, if I don't know you personally, and you're not going to go report it, then what is the point you're trying to say?
00:09:09.000 My point is that you're moving the goalpost when we're talking about abortion.
00:09:12.680 I'm saying, let's talk about the 99% of abortions.
00:09:16.220 What about...
00:09:16.980 That are not for...
00:09:17.900 And you're saying it's a woman's right to choose.
00:09:20.180 That's what we were talking about.
00:09:21.340 That we're losing our rights about abortion, right?
00:09:24.140 That's what we're talking about.
00:09:25.040 In the United States, I know that there has been a law that maybe has been amended or something like that,
00:09:31.040 where some of the abortion rights have been taken away.
00:09:34.100 And I'm talking...
00:09:35.180 I'm saying I don't think that's a right, like, that we deserve to have.
00:09:38.580 Like, I don't need that right.
00:09:39.640 I'm careful with who I sleep with.
00:09:41.920 Why is it the government's right to tell me that I can't abort something from my body?
00:09:47.940 Why is it your right to kill a baby?
00:09:51.060 It's not a baby.
00:09:52.040 Well, and why can't we just be more responsible and take accountability as women for who we sleep with? 1.00
00:09:57.760 And then you keep going to the exception to the rule, which is rape.
00:10:00.720 And I'm saying, no, let's talk about the 99% of abortions.
00:10:02.940 Okay, but, like, if you actually have been raped, like, doesn't that matter?
00:10:06.840 I'm not talking about...
00:10:08.300 But I'm talking about 99% of abortions.
00:10:10.900 And you can't stay on topic.
00:10:12.360 Because you look for the exception...
00:10:15.540 Like, fine, I'll give you the rape abortion, because let's talk about the 99%. 1.00
00:10:18.940 I don't think any of it should be allowed.
00:10:21.360 But for the focus of this conversation to try to get you to stay on point...
00:10:24.600 So if you were raped and you were pregnant... 0.93
00:10:25.980 No, no, no, we're talking about 99% of abortions.
00:10:29.800 That's what we're talking about.
00:10:30.920 What about the 1%? 0.99
00:10:32.000 I'm sure it's thousands of people.
00:10:33.500 I just said that I would give you the 1%.
00:10:37.480 So let's talk about the 99%. 0.85
00:10:40.160 Why is that a woman's right to choose? 1.00
00:10:43.100 Because it's her body.
00:10:44.540 But what about the baby's body?
00:10:46.400 And also, sometimes, like, it's not like every person who gets pregnant has an easy pregnancy.
00:10:52.220 Like, there are certain health issues that occur.
00:10:55.140 So if your health is jeopardized by the child...
00:10:58.400 That's, again, this is what...
00:11:00.500 Like, it's an exception.
00:11:02.200 Yes, it is.
00:11:04.120 Yes, it is.
00:11:05.420 It's really not true.
00:11:06.680 And actually, I know people who have had abortions because the child actually would have damaged
00:11:13.100 their, like, body.
00:11:14.980 Who do you know?
00:11:17.640 That every horror story that could possibly happen has happened.
00:11:21.960 Where are you from?
00:11:23.460 That's what I want to know.
00:11:24.400 Where are you from?
00:11:26.340 Just because you know people that have had abortions doesn't mean that it's a statistic.
00:11:31.440 Like, statistically significant problem across the board.
00:11:34.300 Like, again, you're looking for an exception rather than the rule.
00:11:37.060 And I want to bring it back to the original point I'm asking you.
00:11:39.960 Why do we need that right?
00:11:41.820 I already said that.
00:11:43.060 I already said my reason why.
00:11:44.940 It's because it's my body.
00:11:46.860 And if I don't want to have a child, then it's my right to not have that child.
00:11:51.420 And also, there can be a plethora of reasons why someone doesn't want to have a child.
00:11:57.160 For example, health reasons.
00:12:00.040 And like I just mentioned.
00:12:01.680 I know, but I'm talking about the exception.
00:12:03.240 That's the exception rather than the rule.
00:12:05.160 And so, if we're going to say it's my body, what about the baby's body?
00:12:09.760 The baby's not existing at that point.
00:12:12.060 You can get an abortion in the UK up to six months.
00:12:18.540 I think it should be that way.
00:12:20.280 So, if you're trying to say...
00:12:21.580 So, at what point?
00:12:22.480 If you're trying to say a fetus is the same thing as a living human being who has been birthed,
00:12:27.760 to me, it's not the same thing.
00:12:28.980 And so, I have to respectfully disagree with that point of view.
00:12:32.160 Because if it's in the womb, it's not born. 0.51
00:12:37.860 It's not life.
00:12:40.040 So, at what point does it become a baby?
00:12:42.320 I would say post-birth.
00:12:43.940 So, you'd be cool with an abortion two days before you're going to give birth? 0.95
00:12:48.920 I don't think there's anyone who would go through an entire pregnancy
00:12:52.500 and then get an abortion two days before giving birth. 0.99
00:12:55.520 But I want to hear the logic.
00:12:56.860 You're talking about exceptions?
00:12:57.640 No, I'm talking about a logical consistency.
00:13:01.880 Like, you need to have a specific point where it's not a kid and it's not a kid.
00:13:04.980 Yeah, but you just said you want to have no exceptions.
00:13:08.880 And you just said you want to have an abortion. 1.00
00:13:10.720 No, no, I'm asking.
00:13:11.980 No, no, no.
00:13:13.040 I'm not that.
00:13:14.680 That's not what I said.
00:13:15.860 You're not listening.
00:13:16.760 I said, what point is it a baby?
00:13:20.080 And you said birth.
00:13:21.300 So, I'm asking you, with that,
00:13:23.100 do you think someone should be legally able to get an abortion that's a woman's right two days before, a month before? 0.74
00:13:28.440 Like, where is the line?
00:13:29.860 I would say if someone wants to have an abortion two days before they give birth, that's their right. 0.86
00:13:36.080 And I think that's a hell of a lot of effort to go through an entire pregnancy and to give the baby up two days before.
00:13:42.540 I don't understand why someone would do that, but fundamentally, I believe that that is their right because the baby is not alive yet.
00:13:50.800 But at the same time, I'm pretty sure if you had a C-section at nine months, the baby would be alive.
00:13:56.660 So, I don't know.
00:13:58.720 So, I'm curious if you know, actually, if you've had children, if you know about the process of being pregnant because there's a lot of health complications involved.
00:14:10.100 So, I'm just curious why you would have a stance so strongly against abortion, especially when abortion has actually saved women's lives in instances.
00:14:20.780 Also killed women's lives because half of abortions are women. 0.98
00:14:24.940 They're not women. They're fetuses or embryos. 1.00
00:14:29.120 They're not even like...
00:14:29.940 But to date, they have a unique DNA sequence that says their personality, their eye color, their hair color, from the moment of conception.
00:14:42.040 I already said that, what I believe, and I don't believe a fetus is...
00:14:46.120 Okay, okay. That's fine. That's fine.
00:14:48.100 Well, I appreciate you stopping by.
00:14:49.940 Do you?
00:14:51.580 No, I do. It makes good content, actually.
00:14:53.560 I prefer talking to people that disagree.
00:14:55.980 So, thanks for coming.
00:14:57.940 I think I'm going to try to go to the next person.
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