Men REFUSED to Get Married Because of These
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the benefits and drawbacks of marriage and what men and women should and shouldn't get out of it. We also discuss whether or not men should get anything out of a marriage and why women should not get married at all.
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They don't gain nothing as she said previously they can get everything without being married on a
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Contracts okay, they need to sign a contract you can get it all okay. What about you Sterling?
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What should a guy get out of marriage? Well, I mean cow milking
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Chicken coop building and yes and maintenance. Yeah
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What a guy can get is anyone there's any really one thing that a guy can actually get out of like a traditional like legal
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Government marriage and that's immigration papers. Yeah
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Actually, I like that they've mentioned it all that there's what there is like nuance depending on how complex your business is
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You can put things in your wife's name that you couldn't put in a girlfriend's name documents
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If there's no benefit in it, if there's no benefit for a man, why are you seeking that?
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I don't want to get legally married. I would get religiously married
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Okay, because that's like for me that's in your mind ideally
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Keeping the government is done in a church with a priest and then maybe a couple of family members, but it's it's under God
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It's not state. There's no goddamn business in it. Like that's that's why yeah
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Um, and probably probably because I I would primarily choose
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Like there there's some benefit, you know, but loads of benefit
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Physical what can you gain? I think that you've said everything really. Um, I think if it's not a
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Legal marriage and it's a say a religious marriage. Um, you know what what you should gain
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If we say in an ideal world where women aren't incentivized to get divorced and take the kids in an ideal world
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You should get what the vows are someone who is undoubtedly gonna follow your lead
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It's just gonna let you do whatever you want not do what you want
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Go out and and do something that's gonna get you hurt, you know
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You would you would try and say maybe don't do that
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Like it's someone who's gonna stay with you in sickness and in health till death do us part
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Till death do us part not when i'm no longer happy and I decide that I deserve something else at 55 or whatever
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It may be it should be what the vows are but that we don't live in an ideal world
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So yeah, you don't really get anything out of it
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That was a good answer. Good answer. You guys are creative
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What about you? What do you think men should get out of marriage?
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Well, I mean what they should get is the vows like she said
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Is if i'm gonna marry you you should start building my credit score or something
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Oh that's something else actually um in rare cases, I think you could gain um status
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Credit so like where you went you mentioned about credit scores. So for example
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You go to get a mortgage if you're with someone who say the woman's got a better credit score
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You know that way you guys might be able to get a house
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King had some strong thoughts on that relationship, huh King
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If we're talking on the basis of the terminology
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I do agree with the vows and I do agree with what um Sterling said
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And almost everyone says that they chose to have that taken out
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So I don't know I thought potential heart disease feels the same as not potential heart disease
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I guess I don't know I I was thinking that was such a good opportunity like money wise
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She said she tried really I mean no doubt she can sing right
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I mean if you tried that hard you wouldn't look like that
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But she said that so she said being skinny and being big is the same so
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What do you what do you think of the song Sterling
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I'm pretty sure that it sounds like an American
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I think the thing that people get so wrong with like
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Endless like you need like endless discipline and you track every calorie and all this kind of stuff
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It's a lot easier to lose weight if you just have a bit of an education about like
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Is producing a certain result in your body right
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Being American like I guarantee that woman is eating food that is
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Even though she's like even when she's not starving herself, she's still starving herself
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So everything she's eating even when she's trying to eat
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Yes, that's why you're gonna grow your own chickens and grown cows and stuff
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And then she can probably do it because American land is very cheap
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Eat healthy and stuff it's gonna be like low fat. It's gonna be packed full of sugar
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It's just there's so much deception around like weight loss and how to do it correctly
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This is me off honestly when I see a woman like get
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That woman could be gorgeous. Yeah, she could be gorgeous. Why isn't she gorgeous?
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It doesn't make you prettier. That's it doesn't make you pretty
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You will get prettier when you are at a healthy weight, but I think pretty is subjective
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No, it's not because who the men with the most option date the same types of chicks
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So it like it's like saying like men that can't sleep with anyone else
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Will sleep with ugly overweight chicks, but the men with the most options don't do it
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If you look at leonardo dicaprio if you look at the hottest most successful men who they think
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This is a question that has has pondered in human history for as long as we can remember
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And I actually did a video on my channel go check it out guys is beauty subjective or objective
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But the point is there has to be an objective standard for beauty
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Decided what we like all over history take it away from human beings, right?
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We can all agree that certain architecture is more beautiful than other architecture
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So there is an objective standard there that we are aware of at least most people are somewhat aware of
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But I feel like people feed themselves this lie that because people have certain preferences to things that they might
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Find attractive in someone that say someone else might that doesn't take away from the fact that there is such thing as objective beauty
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They've done multiple studies on this that find for example people whose faces are more symmetrical
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Most people will agree that those people are more attractive than people who have less symmetrical faces
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There's actually something called the golden ratio, which is a number that appears in all of nature
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I'm talking across cells to plants to human beings to buildings
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I can't remember than that the number now for the life of me
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It's like a really crazy number like 6.18 something that was something
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But when you see this ratio reflected in a human beings face not only that in their body as well
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Like how their body looks there is an objective standard that generally most people will find attractive
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That's not to say like everything there is always exceptions to the rule
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But there is an objective beauty standard that's not something created by society to make people feel bad about themselves
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That's just human nature in the same way that peacocks they do that thing where they display themselves in a certain way
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We like that and we can't forget that we are animals too
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And we do have something that we all like and can agree is mostly attractive
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Women they like it. What did you think of the song?
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Well, I my question is I don't understand why she took it as an insult
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When like clearly you're gonna have more problem
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You're gonna have more problems later on if you're heavier
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And like you can either take it as an insult and be the victim or you can take it as your family trying to love and to help you
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Try to incentivize you to save your own life. Yeah
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Yeah, what do you find for people that want to lose weight?
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What do you think the best way to do it is I think something more along the lines of like
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Maybe not necessarily like extreme carnival but like just like I personally like the structure of the paleo diet
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Because it's basically just it and people people misconstrue it as actually being like full-on carnival
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But it's really all it really is is like eat meat and veg
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Not necessarily you can eat like you can add you can add potatoes and sweet potatoes
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Potatoes and sweet potatoes are fine. Keto is totally no-carb
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But like if you if you paleo you're basically eating like a colorful array of vegetables good meat
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A few carbs here in there. It's it's but it's all it's real food. Yeah, it's actually food
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You know, it came out of the ground, you know, it didn't come out of a factory
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It's really it's not it's that ain't rocket science. That's actually really really simple to do
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And you can and if you just know like all you need is like two or three good recipes
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But you know what before all of that you need to have the right mindset
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You don't want to need to have to want it. Yeah, you need that one
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I've even get to that before you because all the food we eat nowadays is so addictive
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And if we're talking about the food that you said, yeah, sorry
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You said the family is essentially incentivizing her to bear herself
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You know a lot of I can hear in my head a lot of people saying
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Oh, but you know, they could they could put it nicer and you know, we should we should case how she feels
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This really bugs me this idea that how you deliver a message
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If you put it nicer, it's gonna make a difference
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Actually, the truth is the biggest change comes from the harshest delivery
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If you are told something if someone really really insults you that automatically in your brain
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Hopefully if you've got a healthy mind and not a victim mindset that says well, I'm gonna prove you wrong
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I've noticed that you maybe you're getting a bit bigger
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How do you feel like that gives the person who's receiving that message every excuse under the sun to go?
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Well, they're still being nice. So it can't be that bad
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They're gonna go shit right and get their act together. It's more abrupt. Yeah
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As harsh as it sounds, but actually I think harshness can be the kindest policy because it just it gets it done
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It's it's it's a sharp, you know, rip the plaster off
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Yeah, I mean you wouldn't you wouldn't mince words if like a family member of yours was shooting up heroin all the time
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Well, and I was thinking I'm like, I mean, she's pretty big. She could have made a decent amount of money
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She said five dollars per pound. That's like 50 bucks for 10 pounds. I mean like I think she's well
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That's a terrible return on investment in terms of time spent no, but okay hear me out hear me out
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Okay, she looks like like late 20s. Maybe okay back then when you were a kid like
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If anything, it was an opportunity for you know, you could get like cash
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I think the biggest problem I have with this weight issue thing is
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We live in a society where people have kind of made it. Okay, and I understand that you can be
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Do all of that but the problem with that is that if you look at reality reality
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Always tells the truth you can't escape reality
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There's a reason why you don't see so many overweight old people
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There's a reason for that. That's because they die before they get to that age
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Most of most of the old people you see walking around are not overweight
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So if if you can't look at reality and look at the truth that is waiting ahead of you that just means that you
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You don't care about your future you don't because I just find it weird like if I if I were to look out into the world
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There's a reason why I don't do crime because I can look out into the world and see what happens to people that do crime
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So it should be the same ideology we should take when when people are telling you oh
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It's okay to be this you can actually look out in the world and see the facts of reality because reality
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We always told the truth, so I just think that people need to get off this bandwagon of
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Yeah, that narrative I think is very destructive to people because reality doesn't agree with that
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Calling it like body positivity the irony there is you're actually you actually don't respect and love your body at all
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Because you're not giving it what it really needs and you're harming yourself
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You're not you're harming yourself and you're actually giving it the nutritious food
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It and the exercise that it actually needs to be its best and performance first
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Did you know I applied to a body positive organization? I did a whole interview. I did
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Yeah, and I I pitched in the interview that like the best way to be body positive
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Um, and it was like a social media intern. I'm like I'm great at social media
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And so I know I pitched it to him I said the best way to be body positive is to lose weight
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Oh, so so on the social media. I would really like to do some like running campaigns
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They did not they um, yeah, they they actually ended the interview right there. I was
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That's it and they want us all to believe body positive
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Well, and then they can just sell us more stuff
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Because when you're overweight, you're um, actually at a higher risk of all-cause mortality
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Yeah, and you lost a bunch of weight didn't you?
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I would like to say I actually was only that weight for a few years
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And it's because I got depressed and in a hole put on a bunch of weight and then lost it. Yeah about six stone
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And that was like two years of my life the rest of my life have been in shape
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It's very strict and if I kind of went out of the realms of weight, he would be like
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I mean, yeah, he would be saying that you can't eat that you can't do that right here's some chicken breast
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I mean bad advice but back then everyone was like chicken breast
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You need the fat for your to support your hormones you need the fat
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Yeah, oh bingo. Oh wow, I didn't even know chicken. I didn't know chicken was bad. I thought there's not
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Yeah, if you're gonna eat chicken breast really you want anything with skin on it. Okay, so wings are good. They're in. Oh, I love wings
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But not but not American wings covered in sugar
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So how did you find carnivore? How did I find it? Yeah, so I actually started with keto first
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Okay, and I was keto for about six months and then I come across this doctor who I then became to you know started working for called dr. Sean Baker and
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He was on joe rogan and I was listening to him and he was saying yeah vegetables this that and I was thinking this guy is absolutely insane and
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But what it did is it planted a seed and when I was eating my asparagus because all I was eating is meat and veg because I was keto
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So there was no sugar there was no junk. There was nothing and um, that did a lot of good for my health
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But there was still some little things my body wasn't happy with my body composition things like that
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Um, and then I started thinking oh hang on. I just ate some asparagus and now I'm bloated now
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I feel this like I feel a bit lethargic, you know
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There's all these downsides to eating the plants. I thought you know, I'm gonna try it. It's gonna go wrong
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So I tried it for two weeks and I was like wow rush of energy clarity
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You know all benefits and not only that first week. I lost seven pounds second week
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I lost seven pounds and then after that I stopped weighing myself because I could start seeing my abs
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I was feeling good about myself and this was from the what sorry what was this from carnivore diet?
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Okay, okay, it's not a starvation. So going back to that song majorly talented woman
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Given some information that's wrong. So her parents wanted to her to lose weight and her grandparents and you know
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Whoever else in her family because they wanted her to be healthy. They were giving her really bad advice
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That advice doesn't leave you to be an overweight because you're restricting yourself. I don't restrict myself
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I eat about 5 000 calories a day is that for breakfast add 12 sausages
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You don't have to restrict if you're eating the human appropriate diet your body will do the rest
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When you when you went on to the keto diet initially did you go through any kind of withdrawals?
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I didn't which is really funny because before that I was in my hole and I was addicted to coffee and cakes
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I haven't drunk coffee in about five years. I don't really drink alcohol
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Occasionally for the first three years of the diet didn't drink any alcohol whatsoever
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Um last couple of years every now and again. I'll drink a bit of alcohol
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Um, but yeah, no some people get keto flu and that's because they're not keeping up with their electrolytes
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When you go on to a diet that's low carb or zero carb
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Your body becomes really efficient at dropping the water
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With that you drop electrolytes. So you have to keep replenishing those to keep those
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You know and is that through just drinking water?
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So so so so basically what I do what I advise people that are starting out new is to take magnesium glycinate
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To um take salt. I usually use pink himalayan salt
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Um, and it's a lot of salt don't be scared of salt salt is like as important to us as oxygen
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If you if your salt if your electrolyte balances out, which is
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Um, you know your sodium your potassium and your magnesium you will have a heart attack
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Right, so it's that important. You know all this scaremongering about salt is absolute rubbish
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They had good intentions because they wanted their daughter granddaughter to get better
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They wanted us to get healthy. They gave us some really bad advice. Yeah, and that bad advice leaves you to constantly thinking about food
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So if you're replenished if you're if you're full of nutrients, you never think about food, right?
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You you're full up you go you don't have to keep thinking about it
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I mean when I go out with people that are on high carb diets
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Can you walk a little bit and they're like, maybe we need some crisps?
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Maybe we need that. I'm like, yeah, I've got my 10 eggs in my bag. I'll eat them. I'm good to go. I'm good for the day
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It stops you from thinking about food. What do you eat in a day steak?
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Okay, on my favorite days, I'll be in a lot of steaks
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10 eggs. Well, actually a lot of the time I start with 10 eggs for breakfast
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It depends what I fancy. I think when you eat on your diet, you should be able to do it intuitively
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So I'll put some butter on there or I get their fattier types of meat
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I might have a kilo of chicken wings for breakfast. I do that quite often
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Sometimes I make my own homemade burgers out of beef mince
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You do cheese or no? You don't do cheese, right?
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But if I have too much, then I start getting dry skin and things
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And you can only eat intuitively when you're eating human specific foods
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Because if you're eating all that junk crap, you're actually addicted
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And your body will send cravings for some unnatural chemical laden nonsense
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But when you get rid of that, you don't have those cravings anymore
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Like I wake up and I think okay today I'm I need a bit of fat
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Yeah, yeah, I'm in tune if I eat something at a restaurant
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And then the next day I might wake up with like a little tiny headache
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So I was like oh I wonder if those were pork sausages
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For the first three years I didn't eat any chicken
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And they are their body composition is exactly as it's meant to be
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If you eat something that you're not meant to eat
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If you eat something as an animal that you're not meant to eat
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Over you know body composition that we're never meant to reach
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When I'm looking at a man if a man's overweight
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And I've recently started to put the weight back on
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She's still in the same position that she didn't
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And she's spending all of her miserable existence
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It would be really not very masculine would it?
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I just I feel like it was a really mixed um perception
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Alright maybe this is to teach all the other little girls
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Then as it went further it says she was unhappy
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Then she was happy because she's in front of the camera in bra and knicker
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So I wouldn't even be able to say whether I liked it or not
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But why do you women celebrate the wrong decisions?
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Like okay a guy if he's a drug dealer or criminal
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I don't listen to like it's like that's like rap music
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That's the thing you're not going to see men just come around
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Especially men that are doing things in life are not just going to come and say yeah
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Or you typically the men that push that on young kids
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Those are like you wouldn't see a responsible man
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You wouldn't see him come out on tv and try to tell young kids this is what you should do
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Well my thing is like I just don't know you know everyone's got struggles in life
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But I just don't know why do we celebrate the wrong
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Where did this whole thing about just women glorifying something?
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Because I think if anything men do the same thing
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Just going back to the reference that you just gave about drug dealers or whatever
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Talking about things they don't know what the rappers are talking about
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So I'm not going to agree with you on the fact that only women glorify
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I mean even this whole idea of threesomes and monogamy and whatever
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It's like one of the reasons that people don't want to be in traditional relationships
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Because it's in the music it's on tv it's and who's who's who's the decision makers behind
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These things being put out et cetera et cetera it's men women
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That's like especially like no women make 80 because there's a lot of high earning women in atlanta
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Women make 80 of consumer buying decisions so the stuff you see in the music the stuff you see on tv
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It's catered to women i'm talking about the the people that are
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Signing off on putting it out the people that are acknowledging or accepting that this is being glorified
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This is what we're going to accept money in exchange for is
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Men generally older white men who have nothing to do with whatever is being even being put out
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But you just hit the nail on the head it's men making the smart decisions of how to make money
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I'm sure that girl made money because we just sat here and watched her video
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You just said about the general culture and who's putting the things out there
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I think you're hinting towards the fact that the media and the music is all owned by the same people
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And you just mentioned that the typical well you know that's all middle-aged white men fine
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But the point is is that they must be smart men because they're making bloody money
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Yeah, but that wasn't the question the question was why do women more so glorify doing bad things versus
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But why do you think it is that though that stuff sells more?
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Because women make up 95 of the consumer market
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I think it's because we have a follower culture so men see these other men getting money looking flashy looking good
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Taking care of their bodies building their bodies, etc. Whatever it is and they want to do the same thing
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They want to flex they want to look a certain way right
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They want to get a certain type of woman because of other men
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But wait, but look do you see what you just said there all of those are good things
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Minus the drug part minus the drug part you just said they want to get like they want to make money good thing
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They want to be in shape good thing they want to attract women good thing
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That's the women but the women that are celebrated tend to be like I think of who has gotten more of an audience than taylor swift
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She's a 30 something year old spinster who makes an album about every single relationship that's gone wrong
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Those are the women we celebrate, you know, and then I can think of like nikki minaj
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Right, you know, I just saw a woman saying nothing positive or saying something good
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Like even if we're going to go back to the fat conversation
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Nikki minaj literally has lyrics that says you a stupid hoe, you a stupid hoe, you a stupid hoe
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Oh my god, what are the same reason that we have everything else?
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I've seen something in london where it's a bunch of grown men riding around bicycle butt naked
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So that women can take their power back and feel like okay, they can accept it
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But that is just because I'm saying this doesn't mean that I'm necessarily agreeing
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Um, because we have things like Roe v. Wade going on where women are not in control of their bodies
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So I'm going to assume that you know is abortion generally a good thing. I don't know
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Okay, okay, okay, why why do women encourage it because it should be your choice what you're going to do
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No, I did not. She asked me why is that you said that with regards to Roe v. Wade
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That's an issue that's going on right now where women don't have control over their bodies
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That if somebody can get pregnant physically that I have no choice in whether I have to carry this baby to term
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That's not control if somebody else has a decision
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Okay, but I'm not giving you my opinion on abortion at all
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The point is is that you said it's about women having control over their bodies
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Do women not have the option to say maybe I'm not going to have sex with a man that I don't want to have children with
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Okay, well, I'm not personally going to have the abortion argument because that was not my intention of bringing up Roe v. Wade
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I'm just giving the example of the slut walk being a reason
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But why do women fight so hard for the wrong decisions?
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Because men have been in control of every decision for the existence of eternity
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How have men been in control when men were the ones that typically had to fight in wars?
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Okay, in order to live in order to survive as a species, right?
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You need to protect society women have never had to do that
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The average man is in how is he in control when they're the ones that have to sacrifice their body
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Their life for the country because they decided that we're the only people that strong enough who decided men
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Guys, guys, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, so you're not you're just not correct
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So when women wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, listen, listen, wait, and they really teach you history wrong
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It's it's not correct if you actually read historical accounts at the time they they rewrite history
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So one one thing people think is they think that men are the ones that started all these wars
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When really they've taken wait wait, you you just did right?
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No, but no you you did because you said men are starting all of these wars
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But you said that's the reason they have to defend the country because the men were starting these wars and I know
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No, that's not what I said I said they they started the decision that the only the men are going to go to war
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Okay, okay, okay, but I okay, okay, okay, wait, wait, so I'm saying the last 500 years
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They took the men that were in power and the women that were in power women are more likely to wage war than men
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Women so so this wasn't just the men's decision there were women rulers and they were more
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I understand that completely, but that was not so my my point
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My point my point is in all of history. There was choices and trade-offs, right?
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And it wasn't most men had very little power most people had very little power
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So this idea that most men somehow oppressed women. It's just not true women had much more privilege in a lot of ways than men
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Much more, you know even in all of in the last thousand years if a woman committed a crime
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She was not likely to get the same punishment as a guy
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There was um there there's been writings for like that are 200 years old of men complaining
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About how unfair the court system is and how women just get off in the and the west in what in the west in the west
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Oh, well in the in the west. Yes. Yes. We're in the west, right?
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Well, the 500 years was actually in the world which kind of makes sense because I don't think women understand violence the same way men
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Yeah, so this idea that like women were oppressed and like men had all this power most people did not have power
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Okay, yeah, I well, I don't understand how that relates back to the original question was which was women
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But I agree to disagree on your word. Okay. Okay
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But you don't see how women glorify wrong during doings when we have a slut walk
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Mean, that's one example. There's so many other things that both
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Okay, what about the body positive walk or the body positive movement?
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And what's that's bad according to whoever is deciding that that's your opinion
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Okay, but would you would you not agree that being more likely to die is bad?
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But I agree that you know making decisions that are going to shorten your life
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Could be considered bad if that's what you value everybody has a range of things that they value
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Um, I think you should celebrate whatever you want to celebrate if you want to celebrate
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Feeling confident in however whatever state you are in today. That's your business
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Exactly and men would say you shouldn't celebrate whatever you want to celebrate
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There are things that are worth celebrating that things that should never be celebrated
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That's what most level-headed men would think but most women have this idea of
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egalitarian fairy tale land where everything can be whatever I want
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Where if you think something is good then it should be good if you think something is bad
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They should but no their objective truths about life
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Okay, another movement that we celebrate is the trans movement. That's 80% women
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And people that do actually have actually interviewed people that do that surgery
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They're more likely to commit suicide a lot of them have really bad complications after
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And I personally don't think that's something that should be celebrated
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Maybe women are naturally nurturers that we're taking that
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Negative judgmental factor out of our maybe because me personally just speaking from my personal life experience
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I'm not I don't I don't care about what you do because the same way you're having an opinion on something that I do the fact that
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I'm overweight the fact that I'm this I'm that maybe you have something that's like you said everybody has a flaw something right
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They're dealing with so who are we to judge and decide that just because somebody is
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Accepting that this is what people are going to do with their lives anyway, and not you know casting another
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So I I don't disagree everybody's got struggles right everyone's got problems. I totally agree
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But where I disagree is I don't agree with celebrating it. I don't agree with celebrating
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I don't agree with celebrating the fact that taylor swift has 10 failed relationships
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I don't think that's something we should yay hurrah
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I don't think we should celebrate you know nikki minaj saying you ho you ho you ho
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I don't I don't think we should celebrate cardi b having a song about wop
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I don't think we should celebrate being overweight because I think those are all negative things
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So that that's where I disagree. I don't disagree that everybody's got problems. Everybody's got struggles
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Nobody's perfect. Obviously everyone in your circle is going to have problems and struggles
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You know, I'm not going to not be friends with someone just because they're overweight, right
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Um, but where I disagree is the celebrating that's where I disagree. So how do you feel about pub culture?
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Because you know some people might look at that as alcoholism or like even just drinking culture in general. Oh, I'm not a fan
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I'm not a big I'm not a big drinker. I wouldn't celebrate that either. I
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Guess but when I walked in they told me to get a drink
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So I'm just like trying to understand the balance of like, you know, it's the men and women thing for me
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Yeah, everybody has a choice and it's like, okay, we can sit here and we can pay
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That's the case if we're going to put some type of like you're bad because you sat here and you ate
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It's not an issue of your bad because it's not an issue of you're bad because you drink
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It's not an issue of you're bad because you're overweight. You're bad. No, no, no, no. That's not it
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It actually comes from a nice place and you're hearing it as judgment and you're saying, you know
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Like who are we to judge each other and I get where you're coming from you think that's coming from a nice place
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But the truth is that's not nice at all because if you as many of you know
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