JustPearlyThings - July 15, 2023


Millionaire Identifies As A Woman


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Length

7 minutes

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201.13754

Word count

1,556

Sentence count

3

Harmful content

Misogyny

26

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Hate speech

7

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Summary

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In this episode, we discuss feminism and its impact on society. Is feminism toxic? Is it good for women? Is feminism bad for society? And when did feminism become a problem? Join us as we debate these questions and much more.

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00:00:00.000 is feminism topic or is feminism toxic so question for the panel do you think that feminism is toxic 0.99
00:00:08.960 yes or no and tell me why starting here and then go around yes feminism is absolutely toxic it's 1.00
00:00:14.480 completely terrible for society it's destroying men it's destroying women i think it's probably 0.99
00:00:18.560 one of the worst things to happen to male and female relationships so yeah absolutely agree 1.00
00:00:23.520 i don't know i think i'm 50 50 i think it's good for us females to i don't know i don't know i don't
00:00:35.360 want to say something and then people don't agree with me but it's okay it's okay we allow all
00:00:44.160 disagreements on the show so it's okay there are no wrong answers um i would just say it's 50 50.
00:00:53.200 okay but if 64 if you had to pick one side um
00:01:01.120 yeah okay yeah you do think it's toxic yeah it's very toxic okay what do you think yeah i think it's
00:01:08.240 toxic i think it breaks down the family units and i also think it impacts society in a negative way
00:01:16.880 as a as a man identifying as a woman to compete in women's sports i think it's great
00:01:22.560 it has really increased my athletic performance relative to my competition
00:01:27.680 and i'm looking forward to being called stunning and brave um but in all seriousness i mean
00:01:34.960 any ideology probably starts out at some point with some positive attributes that are necessary for
00:01:40.800 for for society right um but like every ideology eventually becomes weaponized and i think right
00:01:49.280 now we're living in a world where you ladies are acknowledging it as well which is very strange
00:01:53.520 for a woman to say that like oh you know feminism stocks like because you're a woman you should be 1.00
00:01:57.280 like yay feminism right so i think we're starting to come around as a society and realizing that there's
00:02:01.760 a there's a certain ideological weaponization where feminism went from empowering women to just 1.00
00:02:08.800 shitting on men and that's uh that's a bad line okay so when do you think feminism is ever empowering for 1.00
00:02:16.240 women that's a great question do you want to go like kind of historical argument or where are we going for 1.00
00:02:20.640 this yeah yeah uh okay so so there's there's like kind of an interesting there's obviously this is such
00:02:32.880 a granular argument like there's so many flavors to this it's not like an outright you know you know
00:02:37.200 and i don't want to be like sounding like oh i'm not going to take a position like i have a position right
00:02:40.400 like for example um my mom is a computer scientist as an example right like she's very intelligent she 1.00
00:02:47.680 went all the way through the school got her master's and phd whatever she got um and so she she performed
00:02:53.360 she just retired like this month but she performed at a very high level a very male dominated industry
00:02:58.160 and frankly she's not a very feminine woman so like the opportunity for her to go all the way in
00:03:02.240 her education which was in math and computer science and then implement that for her career was
00:03:06.080 very beneficial for her like she would not fit the mold of a woman that is in a in a let's say 1.00
00:03:11.120 more controlled society where that might have not been an option right because she's not a good house 1.00
00:03:14.800 wife she was a terrible wife but then what does that have to do with feminism what does her success 1.00
00:03:19.680 have to do with well so so you're i understand what you're saying so when you go back to like for
00:03:23.520 example one of the stan countries right now where maybe 15 20 years ago women were not allowed to get
00:03:27.760 an education above let's say the fourth or fifth grade level and you might say fine but i would say okay
00:03:32.240 at that point you need it to push it a little bit further right like if you have to tell girls
00:03:35.920 you're a writer right we had a conversation before we started you're smart like you know
00:03:40.000 things you quoted aldous huxley i'm like ah she reads yeah but what's that got to do with feminism
00:03:44.640 when you put that down to somebody's individual merits right personal well the the original the
00:03:49.040 original premise behind feminism now we're going back a couple hundred years here was that women were 1.00
00:03:53.440 allowed to substantially be educated as much as men because certain religions let's say forbade women
00:03:58.720 from getting a higher level education like they were not even allowed to read under most sort of
00:04:02.560 the archaic religions right so there was a time there was a time where and that was you know a
00:04:07.360 while ago there was a time where you would not have been able to have been an author and you think
00:04:10.800 of what time period was that because i as far as i know in the u.s like well we've at least in the 1600s
00:04:18.400 there was girls getting who's tia sallyet who's tia sallyet is that is that the author that's actually
00:04:23.280 a woman but pretended to be a man because she couldn't get her books published as a woman so there was a 0.99
00:04:27.280 very long-standing history that women could not publish books so like look i'm not like 17 i know
00:04:32.480 at least 17 1800s like women were published um like they could write they were in like the wall 1.00
00:04:38.800 street journal like the whatever the there's a couple publications that were still around no no
00:04:43.360 look look look here let me like saying this like like this is we can we can we can take this even
00:04:48.000 further to the racism argument it's like okay there's there's nobody wants slavery it's horrible and
00:04:53.040 it's like the most absurdly horrible thing that's ever happened and it's happened to you know in
00:04:57.040 different societies and then you go to like all the way to the other side and affirmative action
00:05:00.960 where it's like well i don't really want that either even though it's supposedly like anti-discriminatory
00:05:05.520 becomes discrimination right so feminism like at its core it didn't start out with nefarious 1.00
00:05:11.680 intent completely disagree if you go back to so for example the 1848 uh seneca falls convention you'll
00:05:17.840 find that actually right from the get-go feminism was always very very misandric very very 1.00
00:05:23.040 or for just a very small cabal of the titanic 70 of women survived 80 uh 25 of men survived yeah
00:05:35.520 and the feminists were like if a woman built the ship we would have did it better wait they don't 1.00
00:05:41.440 have feminism is never it's a big misconception because a lot of people think feminism was once 1.00
00:05:47.040 good but actually this is a lie and if you look at historically oh no i agree with you
00:05:50.560 that i don't know i agree i agree with you that ideologically was it was misandric it was a
00:05:55.120 karl marx kind of a situation i know 100 it started at no 100 but but here's can i ask you a question
00:06:00.880 i mean it's and i can't believe i'm taking the side by the way but it's like would you be okay if if
00:06:06.480 women were not allowed to go past the third grade education in the society in which you live well the 0.98
00:06:10.560 thing is yes look at i'm telling you college makes you dumber
00:06:14.240 i'm not drawing the line of college we can get there i'm sorry i'm starting third grade
00:06:21.200 the thing is is that the misconception here is that the main inequalities in society were actually more
00:06:26.560 to do with class rather than gender because for example a wealthy woman would have had much more 1.00
00:06:31.680 social privilege than a poor man and women actually could be educated for example during medieval england a 1.00
00:06:36.960 lot of women worked in nursing they worked in teaching so this idea that somehow women couldn't be 1.00
00:06:42.640 educated i mean if you just look at the west for example this isn't true actually education was
00:06:46.960 more reserved for the upper classes and it's always been that way even things like property ownership as
00:06:52.160 well it's not really the feminists has made it as a men versus women thing but it was never the case 0.99
00:06:56.800 it was more about class so i mean i think you're referring to because i know you refer to specifically
00:07:02.240 to like religious countries i'm not going to comment on that but right now but if we just look at say
00:07:06.400 the west or england education opportunities have always been there but they've been referred
00:07:10.880 they've been on what wrong word reserved for the wealthier classes and the feminist lie effectively 1.00
00:07:16.400 is that oh this was about men oppressing women but it wasn't it was more about the upper classes were
00:07:21.600 the ones who held more of the privilege in society so you know and women women you know they did things 1.00
00:07:27.200 like sewing needlework music things like nursing a lot of women worked as governesses so it is a big 0.99
00:07:33.680 misconception that women couldn't work or that women couldn't have careers or that women weren't educated a lot 0.99
00:07:38.640 of these are very big misconceptions no but what they do is they rewrote