Millionaire Identifies As A Woman
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In this episode, we discuss feminism and its impact on society. Is feminism toxic? Is it good for women? Is feminism bad for society? And when did feminism become a problem? Join us as we debate these questions and much more.
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is feminism topic or is feminism toxic so question for the panel do you think that feminism is toxic
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yes or no and tell me why starting here and then go around yes feminism is absolutely toxic it's
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completely terrible for society it's destroying men it's destroying women i think it's probably
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one of the worst things to happen to male and female relationships so yeah absolutely agree
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i don't know i think i'm 50 50 i think it's good for us females to i don't know i don't know i don't
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want to say something and then people don't agree with me but it's okay it's okay we allow all
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disagreements on the show so it's okay there are no wrong answers um i would just say it's 50 50.
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yeah okay yeah you do think it's toxic yeah it's very toxic okay what do you think yeah i think it's
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toxic i think it breaks down the family units and i also think it impacts society in a negative way
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as a as a man identifying as a woman to compete in women's sports i think it's great
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it has really increased my athletic performance relative to my competition
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and i'm looking forward to being called stunning and brave um but in all seriousness i mean
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any ideology probably starts out at some point with some positive attributes that are necessary for
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for for society right um but like every ideology eventually becomes weaponized and i think right
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now we're living in a world where you ladies are acknowledging it as well which is very strange
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for a woman to say that like oh you know feminism stocks like because you're a woman you should be
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like yay feminism right so i think we're starting to come around as a society and realizing that there's
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a there's a certain ideological weaponization where feminism went from empowering women to just
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shitting on men and that's uh that's a bad line okay so when do you think feminism is ever empowering for
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women that's a great question do you want to go like kind of historical argument or where are we going for
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this yeah yeah uh okay so so there's there's like kind of an interesting there's obviously this is such
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a granular argument like there's so many flavors to this it's not like an outright you know you know
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and i don't want to be like sounding like oh i'm not going to take a position like i have a position right
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like for example um my mom is a computer scientist as an example right like she's very intelligent she
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went all the way through the school got her master's and phd whatever she got um and so she she performed
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she just retired like this month but she performed at a very high level a very male dominated industry
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and frankly she's not a very feminine woman so like the opportunity for her to go all the way in
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her education which was in math and computer science and then implement that for her career was
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very beneficial for her like she would not fit the mold of a woman that is in a in a let's say
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more controlled society where that might have not been an option right because she's not a good house
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wife she was a terrible wife but then what does that have to do with feminism what does her success
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have to do with well so so you're i understand what you're saying so when you go back to like for
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example one of the stan countries right now where maybe 15 20 years ago women were not allowed to get
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an education above let's say the fourth or fifth grade level and you might say fine but i would say okay
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at that point you need it to push it a little bit further right like if you have to tell girls
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you're a writer right we had a conversation before we started you're smart like you know
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things you quoted aldous huxley i'm like ah she reads yeah but what's that got to do with feminism
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when you put that down to somebody's individual merits right personal well the the original the
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original premise behind feminism now we're going back a couple hundred years here was that women were
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allowed to substantially be educated as much as men because certain religions let's say forbade women
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from getting a higher level education like they were not even allowed to read under most sort of
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the archaic religions right so there was a time there was a time where and that was you know a
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while ago there was a time where you would not have been able to have been an author and you think
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of what time period was that because i as far as i know in the u.s like well we've at least in the 1600s
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there was girls getting who's tia sallyet who's tia sallyet is that is that the author that's actually
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a woman but pretended to be a man because she couldn't get her books published as a woman so there was a
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very long-standing history that women could not publish books so like look i'm not like 17 i know
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at least 17 1800s like women were published um like they could write they were in like the wall
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street journal like the whatever the there's a couple publications that were still around no no
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look look look here let me like saying this like like this is we can we can we can take this even
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further to the racism argument it's like okay there's there's nobody wants slavery it's horrible and
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it's like the most absurdly horrible thing that's ever happened and it's happened to you know in
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different societies and then you go to like all the way to the other side and affirmative action
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where it's like well i don't really want that either even though it's supposedly like anti-discriminatory
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becomes discrimination right so feminism like at its core it didn't start out with nefarious
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intent completely disagree if you go back to so for example the 1848 uh seneca falls convention you'll
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find that actually right from the get-go feminism was always very very misandric very very
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or for just a very small cabal of the titanic 70 of women survived 80 uh 25 of men survived yeah
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and the feminists were like if a woman built the ship we would have did it better wait they don't
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have feminism is never it's a big misconception because a lot of people think feminism was once
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good but actually this is a lie and if you look at historically oh no i agree with you
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that i don't know i agree i agree with you that ideologically was it was misandric it was a
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karl marx kind of a situation i know 100 it started at no 100 but but here's can i ask you a question
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i mean it's and i can't believe i'm taking the side by the way but it's like would you be okay if if
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women were not allowed to go past the third grade education in the society in which you live well the
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thing is yes look at i'm telling you college makes you dumber
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i'm not drawing the line of college we can get there i'm sorry i'm starting third grade
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the thing is is that the misconception here is that the main inequalities in society were actually more
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to do with class rather than gender because for example a wealthy woman would have had much more
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social privilege than a poor man and women actually could be educated for example during medieval england a
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lot of women worked in nursing they worked in teaching so this idea that somehow women couldn't be
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educated i mean if you just look at the west for example this isn't true actually education was
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more reserved for the upper classes and it's always been that way even things like property ownership as
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well it's not really the feminists has made it as a men versus women thing but it was never the case
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it was more about class so i mean i think you're referring to because i know you refer to specifically
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to like religious countries i'm not going to comment on that but right now but if we just look at say
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the west or england education opportunities have always been there but they've been referred
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they've been on what wrong word reserved for the wealthier classes and the feminist lie effectively
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is that oh this was about men oppressing women but it wasn't it was more about the upper classes were
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the ones who held more of the privilege in society so you know and women women you know they did things
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like sewing needlework music things like nursing a lot of women worked as governesses so it is a big
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misconception that women couldn't work or that women couldn't have careers or that women weren't educated a lot
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of these are very big misconceptions no but what they do is they rewrote