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- August 22, 2023
MLD Says THIS About Body Positivity
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Length
9 minutes
Words per Minute
183.65091
Word Count
1,828
Sentence Count
196
Misogynist Sentences
16
Hate Speech Sentences
5
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And it's interesting, too, that you guys, like, weren't hand-selected for this body positivity thing.
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No, I know. I have no idea.
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That's like the universe is coming together. That's pretty cool.
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The thing is, there's a perception when it comes to people that choose to have elective surgery.
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And that is what I try in my day-to-day life, try to allow people to see that it's not about just wanting to have surgery to get rid.
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But some people are not best gym candidates.
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I wasn't. I mean, I'd spent thousands of pounds on personal trainers, on diet plans.
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I was doing all sorts. However, what happens is, yes, you might lose the weight.
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The weight will go down. And in my case, I had a hernia.
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I'd had three C-sections. My stomach was protruding.
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That's the recti muscle in the middle had opened. I needed to have muscle repair.
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And that cannot be fixed in the gym.
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So when I was losing the weight, in fact, I actually looked better when I was bigger
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because I could hold my own.
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When I lost the weight, everything dropped and went down south.
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And it looked worse, to be fair.
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So when I saw that happened after I'd lost all the weight, well, what do I do now?
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Because the gym is not going to help this.
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I need to have a tummy tuck.
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I need to have muscle repair.
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So knowing that I needed to have that done, there is a number of people out there who go,
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why don't you go to the gym?
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Well, I did.
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Yeah.
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For many years.
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And my biggest thing is, too, if we're supposed to enthusiastically support people chopping off
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their wieners and becoming women, like, you've got to shut up about this other stuff, too.
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Like, God, can I say something?
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You've got to choose one.
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You've got to choose one.
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Can I say something, please?
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Can I just remind you all that body positivity isn't only, like, people with big black relationships.
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It's about unable people as well.
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And people are born deformed.
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Some people are born with disabilities.
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And I think body positivity is also linked with that.
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But the main marketing component of body positivity is towards women to say you can be obese and
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you're still beautiful.
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I just don't think we should celebrate something that's a choice.
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You're celebrating it when you're putting on the cover of magazines.
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That's a reward.
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That's, like, a positive thing when you're specifically giving people parts because they're plus size,
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when you're specifically trying to put it out there, make that the representation in the media.
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And it's interesting, too, because earlier you said, like, that you seem to say, like, you couldn't lose the weight.
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Was that what you were saying earlier?
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Yes, I couldn't.
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But it's like before the podcast starts, you drink a coat.
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I'm not trying to call you out, but it's like...
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No, no, no.
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It's like...
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No, don't get me wrong.
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Yeah.
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Hello, I'm on your podcast.
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I want to have a good time, you know.
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I'm not at home.
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I don't need to be drinking all healthy stuff.
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But what I'm saying...
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But the reason I say that is just because I'll hear people say that, but then I, like, watch what they eat.
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And I'm like, it doesn't seem to add up.
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Do you know, it's just about representation.
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It's basically the little things from, like, there's...
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For example, you can go to a store.
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You can't get certain things.
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You can order something from online.
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You can't see.
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You can't actually...
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Because there's not the person wearing it.
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You can't see it.
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I was actually going to say something.
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What I wanted to say is...
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It's actually just...
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Go on.
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Go on.
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Take it away.
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I think...
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The mind thought has just escaped.
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That's fine.
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I think it all starts as well from a young age and how you're brought up.
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Yes.
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And the way that your parents feed you and what they do for you being brought up.
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Well, and that's why I think it's so important to, like, get in control of your eating habits if you want to have children.
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Because it's not fair to the next generation to be brought up with eating habits that will give you an early grave.
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And I even think about that with myself because I have, like, a horrible sugar addiction.
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I literally love sugar.
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It's so bad.
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So does everybody else.
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It's addictive.
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But we do have, like, health problems because, like, a lot of people in my family eat a lot of...
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I forget what, the early onset something.
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I'm not a medical person.
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But, like, I think of this even for myself, you know.
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Yeah.
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So I think it's, like, important that we don't celebrate that sort of thing.
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Yeah.
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I agree with that.
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Because growing up, for me, I used to see my mum forever doing different diets.
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Yeah.
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Going on the Cambridge diet.
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You know when you just eat the shakes and you have those cardboard bars?
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Yeah.
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Do you know the keto diet as well?
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Yeah.
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All of this.
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And I saw my mum do that.
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And I remember being at school.
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And my mum was happy to say, I'd be like, Mum, I want to go on a diet.
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And she'd pack my Rye Vita with my fruit.
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And I was at school at year eight, year nine.
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So it was 12, 13.
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And my mum was happy to do that.
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Whereas, you know, it's created bad habits for me.
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And unhealthy eating habits.
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Yeah.
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I think it's everything in moderation.
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Do you know what I realized, too?
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I think it's a problem that comes from moms not being in the home anymore.
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Yeah.
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Because when moms are in the home, they're watching, like, what everyone's eating.
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It's like their full phone.
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It's tough to do that, to watch what everyone's eating when you're working, like, 20, 30, 40 hours a week.
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In addition to that, too.
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In addition to that, a lot of these food companies are behind the body positivity movement
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because they know that their food is not really food.
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It's, like, legislated poison.
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Yeah.
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They have so much high fructose cornstern stuff.
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Chemicals.
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And then, in addition to that, too, the rates of home cooking is going down all across the globe.
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Guilty.
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Yeah.
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And, you know, people want to order Uber Eats and this and all that crap.
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And then you're just eating processed food.
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And I personally, this is me, I'm not, well, I don't have a food degree or whatever.
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My degree is in psychology.
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But I do believe that the rise that we're seeing, we're ever seeing an increasing rate of cancer in people.
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I think that's directly correlated to the amount of processed food that we're consuming.
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This is what I wanted to say earlier.
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Body positivity is important.
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And the reason why it's important is because people have grown up watching different things.
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They've watched a certain type of people.
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They've watched a certain type of behaviour.
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And people, there are some people that don't leave their house.
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There are some people who travel.
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There are some people who don't experience much.
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And they don't know, they judge people.
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They have certain behaviours, what's taught on telly.
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And that's why it's important.
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It's not because it's important, like big people should be promoted.
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It's important because some people actually aren't nice.
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And some people do judge.
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And some people speak, use a certain language.
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And if there was, while growing up, if there was a mixture of people, if there were a mixture of cultures,
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a mixture of backgrounds, all these things, yeah, body positivity wouldn't be needed.
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But unfortunately, we've been programmed to think, this is beautiful, that is beautiful.
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I don't think so.
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No, no, because if you look at, because they did a study on this, this is what I do for a living.
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So let me just tell you.
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So they did a study on female attractiveness across all cultures, over multiple different generations and time periods.
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And what guys like is still the same.
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Small hips, nice butt, big breasts.
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Shall I tell you why?
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I have something here, too.
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It says obese women are 20% less likely to marry.
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This is a survey of over 10,000 people, which is a huge sample size.
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According to a large 2022 social survey on dating, 65% of men would assign a rejection score to 3 out of 5 women.
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Meaning they would, they're more likely to reject them.
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And 18% of men assign a 5 out of 5 rejection score, meaning they would definitely reject them.
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So on that, I'd like to point out that we are talking about obese people because fatness is seen as the monolith of body positivity.
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And fat people are an easy target.
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We can have skinny people on the covers of magazines and no one will say anything.
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You won't hear a peep.
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But their health is still in danger.
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People, people, no, they did in the early 2000s, they said the girls were too skinny.
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I actually remember that.
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Yeah, no, they definitely did.
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And where's that nerf?
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Anorexia was literally a thing.
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Models were, yeah, they were demonizing it.
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The casting directors were getting sued all sorts.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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People complained.
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Where is that now?
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The skinny girls aren't on the covers anymore.
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They're replaced.
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You think they're being replaced by fat people?
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Yes.
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No, no, no, that's not true, please.
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No, Perl, that's not true.
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I'm sorry.
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Let's look at the Victoria's Secret fashion show.
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That was like the epitome of modeling.
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Yeah.
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But that was one of the top, like the epitome.
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You cannot tell me.
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That was not one of the most competitive, like everyone wanted to be a Victoria's Secret model.
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And then since they've switched to Victoria's Secret has been bleeding money.
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They're losing money right now.
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They're no longer a profitable business.
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You need to think about how these brands are moving as well.
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With Victoria's Secret, it was this tall woman.
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There's this blonde hair.
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Yeah, she's a certain looking type.
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And you really see a difference in what Rihanna's doing.
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She's involving a whole load of rage and she's getting the sales.
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So Victoria's Secret didn't move with the time.
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And now the event is taking over.
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I don't think we should have to adjust because of people's choices.
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Because if you make a choice to be overweight, why does society have to adjust to you?
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Why does there have to be representation on the cover of magazines?
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Why do they have to make specific stores for bigger people when really we should be focusing on losing the weight?
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