JustPearlyThings - August 22, 2023


MLD Says THIS About Body Positivity

Topics
body positivity marketing
Hosted by
Hannah Pearl Davis
Mentioned
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Length

9 minutes

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183.65

Word count

1,828

Sentence count

210

Harmful content

Misogyny

16

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Toxicity

9

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5

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Summary

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In this episode, I'm joined by the lovely and we talk all things Body Positivity. We talk about how important it is to be body positive, why it's so important to be positive about your body, and why we should all be body positivity about it.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 And it's interesting, too, that you guys, like, weren't hand-selected for this body positivity thing.
00:00:07.140 No, I know. I have no idea.
00:00:08.820 That's like the universe is coming together. That's pretty cool.
00:00:11.400 The thing is, there's a perception when it comes to people that choose to have elective surgery.
00:00:18.360 And that is what I try in my day-to-day life, try to allow people to see that it's not about just wanting to have surgery to get rid.
00:00:26.240 But some people are not best gym candidates.
00:00:29.260 I wasn't. I mean, I'd spent thousands of pounds on personal trainers, on diet plans.
00:00:35.260 I was doing all sorts. However, what happens is, yes, you might lose the weight.
00:00:40.240 The weight will go down. And in my case, I had a hernia.
00:00:44.100 I'd had three C-sections. My stomach was protruding.
00:00:47.500 That's the recti muscle in the middle had opened. I needed to have muscle repair.
00:00:51.860 And that cannot be fixed in the gym.
00:00:54.540 So when I was losing the weight, in fact, I actually looked better when I was bigger
00:00:58.200 because I could hold my own.
00:01:00.380 When I lost the weight, everything dropped and went down south.
00:01:03.600 And it looked worse, to be fair.
00:01:05.420 So when I saw that happened after I'd lost all the weight, well, what do I do now?
00:01:10.420 Because the gym is not going to help this.
00:01:13.100 I need to have a tummy tuck. 0.87
00:01:15.380 I need to have muscle repair.
00:01:17.260 So knowing that I needed to have that done, there is a number of people out there who go,
00:01:23.380 why don't you go to the gym?
00:01:24.240 Well, I did.
00:01:25.140 Yeah.
00:01:25.580 For many years.
00:01:26.460 And my biggest thing is, too, if we're supposed to enthusiastically support people chopping off
00:01:32.260 their wieners and becoming women, like, you've got to shut up about this other stuff, too.
00:01:36.960 Like, God, can I say something?
00:01:38.040 You've got to choose one.
00:01:39.180 You've got to choose one.
00:01:40.140 Can I say something, please?
00:01:42.120 Can I just remind you all that body positivity isn't only, like, people with big black relationships.
00:01:48.940 It's about unable people as well.
00:01:51.320 And people are born deformed. 0.93
00:01:54.040 Some people are born with disabilities.
00:01:56.260 And I think body positivity is also linked with that.
00:01:59.280 But the main marketing component of body positivity is towards women to say you can be obese and 0.96
00:02:05.840 you're still beautiful.
00:02:06.800 I just don't think we should celebrate something that's a choice.
00:02:11.920 You're celebrating it when you're putting on the cover of magazines.
00:02:15.240 That's a reward.
00:02:16.300 That's, like, a positive thing when you're specifically giving people parts because they're plus size, 0.85
00:02:21.440 when you're specifically trying to put it out there, make that the representation in the media.
00:02:26.240 And it's interesting, too, because earlier you said, like, that you seem to say, like, you couldn't lose the weight.
00:02:34.740 Was that what you were saying earlier?
00:02:36.260 Yes, I couldn't.
00:02:37.780 But it's like before the podcast starts, you drink a coat.
00:02:41.540 I'm not trying to call you out, but it's like...
00:02:42.920 No, no, no.
00:02:43.500 It's like...
00:02:44.140 No, don't get me wrong.
00:02:45.400 Yeah.
00:02:46.180 Hello, I'm on your podcast.
00:02:47.800 I want to have a good time, you know.
00:02:49.240 I'm not at home.
00:02:50.000 I don't need to be drinking all healthy stuff.
00:02:53.260 But what I'm saying...
00:02:53.940 But the reason I say that is just because I'll hear people say that, but then I, like, watch what they eat.
00:02:59.060 And I'm like, it doesn't seem to add up.
00:03:00.820 Do you know, it's just about representation.
00:03:03.580 It's basically the little things from, like, there's...
00:03:08.820 For example, you can go to a store.
00:03:11.540 You can't get certain things.
00:03:14.600 You can order something from online.
00:03:16.880 You can't see.
00:03:17.960 You can't actually...
00:03:18.960 Because there's not the person wearing it.
00:03:20.600 You can't see it.
00:03:23.640 I was actually going to say something.
00:03:26.000 What I wanted to say is...
00:03:27.780 It's actually just...
00:03:29.100 Go on.
00:03:29.300 Go on.
00:03:29.660 Take it away.
00:03:30.420 I think...
00:03:31.100 The mind thought has just escaped.
00:03:33.120 That's fine.
00:03:33.820 I think it all starts as well from a young age and how you're brought up.
00:03:40.420 Yes.
00:03:40.580 And the way that your parents feed you and what they do for you being brought up.
00:03:46.840 Well, and that's why I think it's so important to, like, get in control of your eating habits if you want to have children.
00:03:52.320 Because it's not fair to the next generation to be brought up with eating habits that will give you an early grave.
00:03:58.660 And I even think about that with myself because I have, like, a horrible sugar addiction.
00:04:02.800 I literally love sugar.
00:04:04.740 It's so bad.
00:04:05.540 So does everybody else.
00:04:06.700 It's addictive.
00:04:07.420 But we do have, like, health problems because, like, a lot of people in my family eat a lot of...
00:04:13.380 I forget what, the early onset something.
00:04:16.300 I'm not a medical person.
00:04:17.780 But, like, I think of this even for myself, you know.
00:04:20.640 Yeah.
00:04:20.920 So I think it's, like, important that we don't celebrate that sort of thing.
00:04:24.760 Yeah.
00:04:25.020 I agree with that.
00:04:25.900 Because growing up, for me, I used to see my mum forever doing different diets. 0.99
00:04:31.020 Yeah.
00:04:31.320 Going on the Cambridge diet.
00:04:32.480 You know when you just eat the shakes and you have those cardboard bars?
00:04:35.600 Yeah.
00:04:35.800 Do you know the keto diet as well?
00:04:36.940 Yeah.
00:04:37.300 All of this.
00:04:37.940 And I saw my mum do that. 0.98
00:04:39.000 And I remember being at school.
00:04:40.580 And my mum was happy to say, I'd be like, Mum, I want to go on a diet.
00:04:43.040 And she'd pack my Rye Vita with my fruit.
00:04:45.860 And I was at school at year eight, year nine.
00:04:48.380 So it was 12, 13.
00:04:50.320 And my mum was happy to do that.
00:04:51.860 Whereas, you know, it's created bad habits for me.
00:04:55.740 And unhealthy eating habits.
00:04:56.980 Yeah.
00:04:57.400 I think it's everything in moderation.
00:04:58.560 Do you know what I realized, too?
00:05:00.160 I think it's a problem that comes from moms not being in the home anymore. 1.00
00:05:04.960 Yeah.
00:05:05.380 Because when moms are in the home, they're watching, like, what everyone's eating. 0.98
00:05:08.800 It's like their full phone.
00:05:09.720 It's tough to do that, to watch what everyone's eating when you're working, like, 20, 30, 40 hours a week.
00:05:14.280 In addition to that, too.
00:05:15.380 In addition to that, a lot of these food companies are behind the body positivity movement
00:05:21.240 because they know that their food is not really food.
00:05:24.640 It's, like, legislated poison.
00:05:26.380 Yeah.
00:05:26.640 They have so much high fructose cornstern stuff.
00:05:29.020 Chemicals.
00:05:29.420 And then, in addition to that, too, the rates of home cooking is going down all across the globe.
00:05:36.640 Guilty.
00:05:37.220 Yeah. 0.65
00:05:37.580 And, you know, people want to order Uber Eats and this and all that crap. 0.84
00:05:41.240 And then you're just eating processed food.
00:05:44.260 And I personally, this is me, I'm not, well, I don't have a food degree or whatever.
00:05:48.800 My degree is in psychology.
00:05:49.700 But I do believe that the rise that we're seeing, we're ever seeing an increasing rate of cancer in people.
00:05:57.740 I think that's directly correlated to the amount of processed food that we're consuming.
00:06:02.100 This is what I wanted to say earlier.
00:06:05.000 Body positivity is important.
00:06:07.540 And the reason why it's important is because people have grown up watching different things.
00:06:15.360 They've watched a certain type of people.
00:06:17.640 They've watched a certain type of behaviour.
00:06:20.680 And people, there are some people that don't leave their house.
00:06:23.780 There are some people who travel.
00:06:25.740 There are some people who don't experience much.
00:06:28.840 And they don't know, they judge people.
00:06:33.560 They have certain behaviours, what's taught on telly.
00:06:36.680 And that's why it's important.
00:06:40.160 It's not because it's important, like big people should be promoted.
00:06:43.820 It's important because some people actually aren't nice.
00:06:48.520 And some people do judge.
00:06:50.160 And some people speak, use a certain language.
00:06:52.720 And if there was, while growing up, if there was a mixture of people, if there were a mixture of cultures,
00:06:58.940 a mixture of backgrounds, all these things, yeah, body positivity wouldn't be needed.
00:07:06.660 But unfortunately, we've been programmed to think, this is beautiful, that is beautiful.
00:07:12.360 I don't think so.
00:07:13.680 No, no, because if you look at, because they did a study on this, this is what I do for a living.
00:07:17.580 So let me just tell you.
00:07:18.740 So they did a study on female attractiveness across all cultures, over multiple different generations and time periods.
00:07:26.460 And what guys like is still the same. 0.78
00:07:29.400 Small hips, nice butt, big breasts. 0.97
00:07:32.780 Shall I tell you why? 0.98
00:07:34.740 I have something here, too.
00:07:36.140 It says obese women are 20% less likely to marry. 1.00
00:07:40.580 This is a survey of over 10,000 people, which is a huge sample size.
00:07:44.280 According to a large 2022 social survey on dating, 65% of men would assign a rejection score to 3 out of 5 women.
00:07:53.360 Meaning they would, they're more likely to reject them.
00:07:56.700 And 18% of men assign a 5 out of 5 rejection score, meaning they would definitely reject them.
00:08:01.840 So on that, I'd like to point out that we are talking about obese people because fatness is seen as the monolith of body positivity.
00:08:11.160 And fat people are an easy target. 0.91
00:08:12.960 We can have skinny people on the covers of magazines and no one will say anything. 0.99
00:08:17.800 You won't hear a peep.
00:08:18.780 But their health is still in danger.
00:08:20.320 People, people, no, they did in the early 2000s, they said the girls were too skinny. 1.00
00:08:25.020 I actually remember that.
00:08:25.960 Yeah, no, they definitely did.
00:08:27.940 And where's that nerf?
00:08:29.520 Anorexia was literally a thing.
00:08:31.140 Models were, yeah, they were demonizing it. 0.99
00:08:33.100 The casting directors were getting sued all sorts.
00:08:35.540 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
00:08:36.340 People complained.
00:08:37.800 Where is that now?
00:08:38.400 The skinny girls aren't on the covers anymore. 1.00
00:08:40.820 They're replaced. 0.97
00:08:41.940 You think they're being replaced by fat people? 0.99
00:08:43.560 Yes. 0.56
00:08:43.960 No, no, no, that's not true, please.
00:08:46.760 No, Perl, that's not true.
00:08:48.080 I'm sorry.
00:08:48.700 Let's look at the Victoria's Secret fashion show.
00:08:51.800 That was like the epitome of modeling.
00:08:54.720 Yeah.
00:08:55.160 But that was one of the top, like the epitome.
00:08:59.300 You cannot tell me.
00:09:00.180 That was not one of the most competitive, like everyone wanted to be a Victoria's Secret model.
00:09:05.740 And then since they've switched to Victoria's Secret has been bleeding money.
00:09:09.400 They're losing money right now.
00:09:11.020 They're no longer a profitable business.
00:09:12.520 You need to think about how these brands are moving as well.
00:09:15.260 With Victoria's Secret, it was this tall woman. 0.86
00:09:19.440 There's this blonde hair.
00:09:21.420 Yeah, she's a certain looking type. 1.00
00:09:24.000 And you really see a difference in what Rihanna's doing.
00:09:28.360 She's involving a whole load of rage and she's getting the sales. 1.00
00:09:32.200 So Victoria's Secret didn't move with the time.
00:09:34.640 And now the event is taking over.
00:09:36.420 I don't think we should have to adjust because of people's choices.
00:09:40.780 Because if you make a choice to be overweight, why does society have to adjust to you?
00:09:45.880 Why does there have to be representation on the cover of magazines? 0.89
00:09:51.920 Why do they have to make specific stores for bigger people when really we should be focusing on losing the weight?