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- November 02, 2023
Modern Shares Her Experience With Men
Episode Stats
Length
10 minutes
Words per Minute
217.33626
Word Count
2,346
Sentence Count
203
Misogynist Sentences
10
Hate Speech Sentences
9
Summary
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Transcript
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I wanted to ask about icks. Okay, women have icks, men have icks. So I want to talk about
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what is the last time you've broken up with someone over something? Like what was the ick
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or like stopped going on dates with someone? I'm curious from the women, tell me the last like
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ick you got with someone you were seeing. I would say like he has some sassy gestures like
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just picking stuff up like the way you drinking out of a glass. We're sitting at the movies
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and you got to have like... Is it the pinky? Is it like the tea with the pinky? It's the
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it's holding like why are you eating a popsicle as a grown man like I don't know. I saw a tiktok
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and it's like men have to eat certain stuff like break it off like the banana like you
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need to be breaking the banana off and toss it in your mouth like you don't need to be
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doing all these sassy gestures. So yeah, that's definitely ick for me because why are you so loose?
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You sound pickier than me.
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He can stop with the sassy gesture. She can't un-age.
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Mine has been for communication. I can't deal with somebody that doesn't communicate well with
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me. Okay. What does that actually mean? Communication as in we can have our conversation right
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but if you're still walking away and saying well you're still in the wrong that wasn't the
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communication wasn't really there because you've listened to what I've said but I'm still in the wrong.
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So you're talking about arguments specifically?
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Yeah. Communication barrier needs to be there.
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Why don't you just not argue?
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Yeah. Because it depends on what the argument is about. It may not have wanted to be an argument.
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It may have just been something that I've brought up and now I may be the bad one because I've nagged.
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But yeah, yeah, you hear me out.
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Maybe because it is nagging.
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Or hear me out. We could just not bring it up.
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Yeah, we could but then that's why I would rather walk away from it.
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Either way, that's where the relationship ends because if I can't,
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if I actually cannot open my mouth and say it's yeah, I feel like I'm being.
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But why do you have to express to him? Can't you like?
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Because what I'm hearing it just I could be wrong.
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I don't know you right but from what you're saying it sounds like codependency where the
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other person needs to adhere to all of your emotional needs.
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So what I would say is why can't you let it build up a bit but at least then you keep
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the peace in the home and then maybe you can call your mum or you can call your friend and go
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he did this really annoying thing but it's a little annoying thing.
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Yeah, no, I don't believe that relationship should be involved in family members and friends.
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I'm sorry, I'm not going to call my friend and be like, oh, he did this.
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A little thing. So if it's something big.
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Yeah, unless it's something big, what am I even talking about anyway?
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Right, but you said you mentioned the word nagging.
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Yeah, so it gets classed as nagging because it may be something that I've brought up.
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But you're just expressing yourself.
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And it's been swept under the carpet and I've let it go.
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Could be like six months later now and I've decided, you know what,
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I want this conversation again.
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And it gets swept under the carpet again.
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Can I have an example of like, what, what, you're thinking of a situation.
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What happened?
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What happened?
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It's not a specific situation.
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No, no, there's something in your head.
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I see you thinking.
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Do you know what it is?
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I hear it a lot as well from women.
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It's just that, it's just the communication.
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It's for me, it's communication.
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But you see, okay, but you see how broad this is to a guy.
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Because there's guys watching, right?
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And they think, communication.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And they think, that's all women says, communication.
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They don't communicate with me.
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Yes, yes.
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Just sit there, listen and just tell me yes.
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Listen, listen.
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But you're the, if you're the, okay.
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So, but isn't that sort of narcissism?
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I need to be told yes all the time.
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Well, no, not, not yes all the time.
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But I mean, at least just try and take in whatever I may be expressing at the time.
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But what if it feels like it's gone over your head?
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But what if what you're saying is stupid?
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Then tell me I'm being stupid.
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From what I'm hearing, right?
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It sounds, I had a friend who went through a situation similar to this in the way his
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missus was communicating this.
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To me, it's, it kind of sounds like you need, you just needed him to tell you everything's
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going to be okay.
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I just wanted to know if what I'm saying, you actually feel that it is stupid or you agree
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with what I'm saying.
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There needs to be some sort of understanding.
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If there, if we haven't come down to a decision of, yeah, you're being over, like over the top.
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How is you coming across?
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Sometimes it's not what you say, it's how you say it.
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It's how you deliver it.
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Yeah.
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And sometimes a lot of women are very aggy and it's just a bit of an itch for me.
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Yeah.
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We don't approach it correctly.
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That is another thing.
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I'll just keep it stepping.
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That is another thing.
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It is how you approach it and how you, yeah, open up the conversation.
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You're not going to accept them calling you stupid though.
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But I, I have, listen, I'm very understanding.
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I know how to communicate.
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I'm very grown.
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If the option was stupid, how would you react to that?
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I'd want you to explain why the fuck I'm being stupid.
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But you know what it does, it ends up coming down to that, the cycle of the argument,
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how women get into arguments with guys and the whole communication.
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Well, that's it.
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It sounds like you wanted an argument.
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Yeah.
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Sometimes.
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Because you wanted his attention.
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Yeah.
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You wanted his attention.
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So you'll rev it up.
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You may have rev it up.
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No, no, no.
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You get an argument going, he fires back, you get five minutes of his attention,
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but he's fired up and he's passionate with you.
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No.
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It could be something simple like every day I'll ask you,
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babe, can you make sure that the dishes that you put in the sink, you wash it?
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If I've now dealt with that for a whole year and after a year,
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I'll be like, you know what, babe, I've dealt with you not washing the dishes
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that I've asked you every single day to make sure you wash.
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And then you come up with some silly response of, well,
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I put them in the sink.
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Yeah.
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Don't you just accept that he's not going to wash the dishes in the sink?
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And then just leave it.
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Just like, hey.
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Because it's about acceptance.
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I'm just using an example, but.
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Babe, get me a dishwasher.
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I'm just thinking, what else is the chick there for?
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Isn't that your job?
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No, that was just an example.
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That is an example.
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I couldn't think of another example.
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I just thought this is insane.
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But I mean, you have to remember, I'm a mother at the end of the day.
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So I speak to my child all day long.
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I have to, don't do this.
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Don't do that.
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I don't want to have to deal with a man.
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I said, babe, don't do that.
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After that, that's it.
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I have to keep reminding you not to do something.
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But so do exactly, live exactly how I want.
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I am not your mother.
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But that's the point.
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Like, you're not supposed to try to control someone.
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Someone, yeah.
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Yeah, I know, but.
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Only after 30, they try to do that.
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Also, I was going to say.
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I was also going to say.
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If that's the way you're even going to put it, ain't no daughter of you
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is going to tell me, I told you to wash the plates.
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Like, in whose house?
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That was an example.
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No, but the fact is that how men don't wash their plates.
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No, but the point is, even if it's an example, that is the way you gave the example.
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So that's more than likely the way you gave the example.
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How you do, how you approach it.
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Is that how you approach, though, on a normal day?
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No.
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That's how she's probably going to approach it.
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Because if that's not how she was going to approach it, she would have given the example.
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Of the, yeah.
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Fucked.
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I'm scared of you.
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Ladies, we're getting to our family.
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I'm scared of you.
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Stop it.
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Don't be scared of me.
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I mean, I'm very, I like to get my point across.
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Do you get angered very quick by men in a relationship?
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I would say a few years ago, 1,000%.
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You did, but now you control your emotions.
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I've calmed down a lot.
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Yeah, because it's very much learning to understand the person that you're with.
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Understanding my wrongs.
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All right.
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I feel like, correct me if I'm wrong, so I feel like your preference of communication
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comes from like, instead of just sweeping on the rug and, you know, leaving you because
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I realized something about you, let me make sure and confirm this is who you are.
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And I'm not saying that's the right mindset, because if somebody is not washing the dishes
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for a year, then they're probably not going to ever wash the dishes, so you need to accept
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that.
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But some people would rather communicate, fight through it.
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And maybe if you get some understanding, you can change somebody's mind, not necessarily
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change their habits, but change their mind, get some clarity on, this is how you think,
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this is how you move, this is how the person you are, rather than just sweep it under the rug
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a year later.
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Now I'm pissed off.
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I'm just going to leave you because you've done XYZ.
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We've had a conversation and you understand.
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I'm not going to accept this now.
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I'm going to leave you.
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Yeah.
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Can I ask you, if you does wash the dishes, what's your response?
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Damn.
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Go and Hoover now.
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Go and Hoover.
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You're not Hoovering.
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You're not Hoovering now.
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Well, no.
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Random acts of kindness.
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I mean, during these conversations, there's always going to be a reason.
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Like, if I'm stating that there's a problem, yeah, I'm going to say this is the problem.
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If you can't give me a reason as to why you do what you do, or you don't acknowledge that
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it's something that irritates me, that is a form of lack of communication.
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It just needs, I just need, I need the man to be understanding.
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I hear what you're saying, but I think, I think the truth is, I think it's all about mindset,
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really.
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I don't think most men think, I don't even think people should think like that, of like,
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why do you do something?
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Why do you do something?
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Like, at the end of the day, if I go into the middle of London and start beheading people,
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does it matter why I did it?
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You do.
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You've done it.
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You've done it.
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I feel like that was wrong.
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I don't think, I don't think it matters why, I think what matters is what is.
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I need the whole story.
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I need, like, from the start all the way to the end.
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That's you searching for meaning.
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Does that not mean that you're lacking meaning somewhere because you're trying to find it
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in something else outside of yourself?
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Outside of yourself, yeah.
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I wouldn't say I'm lacking meaning, no.
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I'd just say I just like, I need,
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okay, let me try and phrase this right.
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I just like somebody who can communicate.
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I've had relationships where, do you know what the man can tell me?
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Do you know what, you're being a dickhead.
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And how do you take that?
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Yeah, how do you respond to that?
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No, but wait, didn't you say, didn't you say earlier your first question is, well, why?
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Yeah, why?
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That's exhausting to a guy.
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That means he has to, like, go back.
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Exactly, but it's exhausting to me too.
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But the point is, it's like you're looking for an argument when you do that.
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Like, to a man's point of view.
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But we just never hear this because we don't really hear the men's point of view.
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But that whole thing, like, that's exhausting.
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It is exhausting.
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And that's why I'd rather just done it.
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Because if you can't communicate with me, then that's my ick anyways.
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And for me, it's understanding communication.
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If you can't do that with me, it's just not manning your communication.
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When I hear chicks talk about communication, it always, and I'm telling you just how it sounds to me,
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do exactly as I want.
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And I need to tell you every time I'm irritated.
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Otherwise, there's going to be problems.
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Not really, because then I wouldn't end up being with some of the people that I have been with,
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because I would say I've compromised with allowing certain things.
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Like what?
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Not willing to piss.
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Okay, you said it.
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You said it.
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That's the only reason a man says certain things.
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But yeah, I would say I'm willing to compromise with a man.
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Okay, do you feel like men have compromised on you?
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Yeah, 1,000%.
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Okay, so it's like a mutual compromise.
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Yeah, I can say that.
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