JustPearlyThings - July 14, 2023


Modern Woman Who is Attracted to Liars


Episode Stats

Length

56 minutes

Words per Minute

198.68842

Word Count

11,301

Sentence Count

844

Misogynist Sentences

80

Hate Speech Sentences

50


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Coming up next.
00:00:00.900 I seem to find myself in the position
00:00:03.480 where I'm always seen to be the side bitch.
00:00:05.700 Side bitch.
00:00:07.220 All the time.
00:00:09.740 And I think that's just what annoys me.
00:00:12.720 You think you give a side chick vibes?
00:00:14.620 Yeah, I just don't seem to find someone that just wants...
00:00:17.260 But do you know he's in a relationship when you meet him?
00:00:19.600 No, otherwise I wouldn't go there.
00:00:21.420 Oh, OK, that's different.
00:00:23.020 Why do you think they put you in that box?
00:00:25.460 I think because I don't necessarily come...
00:00:28.480 I don't come across like I want to have something serious.
00:00:33.620 OK.
00:00:34.100 So as much as I do, I'm, like, in between
00:00:36.900 because I've had bad experiences before,
00:00:39.480 which has made me feel like I don't want no one to live with me,
00:00:42.440 I don't want this, don't want that.
00:00:44.660 But then it comes to I do feel lonely
00:00:46.780 and I would want that intimacy and that love from the right person.
00:00:50.980 Well, I guess you're a pretty girl, you have a million options.
00:00:53.380 There's many men that will be honest with you.
00:00:55.240 But it's like you picked a liar.
00:00:56.240 No, I don't know.
00:00:57.620 I just feel like they, as you said, make more funny thoughts.
00:01:01.500 It's like the liars, the lies make you want them.
00:01:05.560 You're attracted to the lies.
00:01:07.020 Good for you.
00:01:08.620 Good for you.
00:01:10.340 Who wins after breakups, men or women?
00:01:14.260 So Tom Brady and Giselle...
00:01:16.260 I'm sorry, guys.
00:01:17.340 I can never say her last name.
00:01:18.780 Boonshin officially divorced on October 28th, 2022.
00:01:22.140 Legal teams from both say that an ironclad prenup agreement was put in place before they were married in 2009,
00:01:29.540 making the financial aspects of the divorce relatively smooth.
00:01:33.900 What has happened since then and why are they both in the new sense?
00:01:39.220 Giselle has been linked with her children's jujitsu instructor, Jomaine Valentine, a 42-year-old Brazilian man,
00:01:46.580 with some speculating that they have had something going on before the official divorce.
00:01:51.740 He started appearing on Giselle's social media around February, showing Giselle basic techniques on Instagram.
00:01:58.180 He has also been seen traveling with Giselle and the children since the beginning of the year.
00:02:03.320 Tom Brady, 45, officially confirmed that he is dating Veronica Rezak, a 26-year-old Slovakian model with over 3.2 million Instagram followers.
00:02:14.240 She has attended a few of his games and has taken photographs wearing his jersey.
00:02:19.760 Gerard Peek and Shakira were in a relationship from 2011 to 2022,
00:02:24.300 having two children during that time. After breaking up in 2022,
00:02:29.740 Gerard Peek, 36 years old, has been confirmed to be in a relationship with 23-year-old Clara Chia Marti.
00:02:38.460 Shakira has moved from Spain to her family's home in Miami, Florida,
00:02:42.000 and has been linked to her 24-year-old surfing instructor.
00:02:45.320 Custody of the children is still pending.
00:02:48.240 This begs the question, who normally wins after high-profile breakups, men or women?
00:02:54.300 So start here and then go around.
00:02:59.260 Men or women? Actually, I think I managed to hear what other people got to say first.
00:03:04.160 I can't lie.
00:03:04.960 Okay, who wants anyone opinionated and want to start?
00:03:08.340 Go on.
00:03:09.120 It just depends on how, like, what the situation is.
00:03:12.600 So if there's obviously kids involved, if obviously the prenup.
00:03:17.920 If you had to pick one, who typically wins in high-profile breakups?
00:03:21.660 Oh, um, I'd say men do.
00:03:27.320 Okay.
00:03:27.920 Yeah.
00:03:28.680 Because it's like, no matter what, the publicity just sort of, like, dies down on them,
00:03:34.560 whereas women, they get it a lot more.
00:03:38.100 That makes sense.
00:03:40.260 No.
00:03:40.400 I don't know.
00:03:40.920 So how do I explain it?
00:03:44.360 So men have more publicity after?
00:03:46.960 They don't have as much.
00:03:47.740 No, they get publicity, but it's not as much as, like, it wouldn't go as long as what the
00:03:55.440 woman's publicity would go on for, if that makes sense.
00:03:58.920 So, like, there would be more paparazzi watching the woman, her every move, who she's dealt
00:04:05.180 with, and then sort of, like, you'd hear, once in a blue moon, if the man decides to
00:04:09.760 leave and show off that he's got a new woman, then they would catch him.
00:04:13.460 But it's, like, a one-off story, and then that's it.
00:04:17.860 Bye.
00:04:18.760 That's what I see.
00:04:19.440 So you would dictate who wins and loses after the breakup by who has less publicity?
00:04:24.680 Yeah, because all publicities can be good, but it comes with bad as well, a lot of negative.
00:04:32.200 Okay.
00:04:33.300 I think after a high-profile breakup, right, the women, the outlook from the society that
00:04:40.260 they get is kind of crazy.
00:04:41.860 I think they get told that they're not good for moving on and finding someone else.
00:04:47.060 So, and also, it's mostly men in high-profile breakups that money is associated with as
00:04:55.380 well.
00:04:55.960 So, as soon as the female goes and finds another partner, it's always, like, she didn't bother
00:05:01.680 in the relationship.
00:05:02.560 Do you get it?
00:05:03.720 And that's what I think.
00:05:05.780 Do you think that's true?
00:05:07.060 If a woman's moving from relationship to relationship to relationship, then maybe she isn't the best
00:05:11.700 fit or the best candidate for a relationship?
00:05:14.420 I think a woman that moves from relationship to relationship knows what she wants in a
00:05:19.000 relationship, because I'm going to tell you, not a lot of people out there, like, are going
00:05:22.340 to be what you want them to be.
00:05:23.980 So, move, I would say personally, move around as much as you want until you find the right
00:05:27.860 one.
00:05:28.380 But couldn't you figure that out before a relationship, like, by asking certain questions?
00:05:33.620 Some things you have to live to actually know, because certain people, they know stuff,
00:05:38.440 but in order how they apply it practically is completely different.
00:05:42.220 You can know so much, but once you get into a relationship, it's way more sacrifices, way
00:05:47.680 more compromisation that gets involved that I think is important.
00:05:53.600 And if you need to move around as much relationship as you need to, to get that security to finally
00:05:59.280 understand that these situations won't work for you, then that's what you might need to
00:06:03.220 do.
00:06:03.520 And I think that women do get looked weirdly for that, but it's what you've got to do.
00:06:08.180 At the end of the day, men do it too.
00:06:09.700 Do you think a guy is a good candidate for a relationship if he's constantly having failed
00:06:14.080 situationships with women?
00:06:16.440 Like, if he's maybe in a two-year span dated, like, 20 girls, do you think it's likely he's
00:06:21.640 going to date you?
00:06:23.960 Sorry.
00:06:24.240 I mean, if I know a man has dated 20 women and wanted to come date me, I'd kind of be
00:06:28.580 like, hmm.
00:06:30.220 But then, it kind of contradicts what I just said.
00:06:33.140 But at the same time, as a man, if a woman has gone through 30 men and came up to me and
00:06:37.280 said, I want to have a relationship with you, I'd kind of be like, what's up?
00:06:40.580 You know?
00:06:41.200 And also, as much as I said, compromisation is required.
00:06:44.340 There are stuff you have to learn and go through.
00:06:46.820 Sometimes you have to stick in a relationship for you to actually make stuff work.
00:06:49.720 It doesn't necessarily mean moving on to other ones.
00:06:51.460 But just because you moved on from relationship to relationship, it doesn't mean you're crazy.
00:06:57.460 So, I'm just saying.
00:07:00.820 Okay, go ahead.
00:07:01.640 Go ahead.
00:07:03.340 Either of you.
00:07:04.220 You go ahead.
00:07:05.280 Sorry.
00:07:06.020 Go, go, go, go.
00:07:07.260 So, is this question reserved specifically for high-profile relationships or just relationships
00:07:12.920 in general?
00:07:13.260 Why don't you tell me your opinion on both high-profile and regular?
00:07:15.880 Yeah, sure.
00:07:16.340 So, high-profile, I think, is a little bit worse.
00:07:18.520 Because, say with, also can't pronounce her name, Giselle Bundchen, I think that's how
00:07:23.500 you say it.
00:07:24.720 Tom Brady, he's probably going to be one of the most wealthy, top 10% type of men that
00:07:31.580 she'll ever be with.
00:07:32.500 And because women, we're high pergamous by nature, we typically can't date down.
00:07:38.280 And she would struggle to find someone, especially at her age now that she has children, unfortunately,
00:07:45.340 that would give her what she wants, which would probably be marriage.
00:07:50.160 So, I think that applies to most high-profile relationships because they have some form of
00:07:54.000 celebrity status.
00:07:55.700 Therefore, their partners will probably be a notch ahead of them.
00:07:59.280 Whereas for normal people like us, I think women generally, unfortunately, still do lose
00:08:07.460 in a break-up.
00:08:09.800 In the short term, they're winning because they can find a simp to buy them a bag and
00:08:15.260 take them places.
00:08:17.020 They can find men to fit different roles of a partner.
00:08:19.460 But in the long term, they would lose because they'll struggle to actually find someone
00:08:24.900 who wants to be with them and vice versa.
00:08:27.920 And they'll probably get to, say, 35, no children because they've been playing in the
00:08:30.940 field.
00:08:31.920 Whereas if they stayed in the relationship, providing it's not abusive, you know, the
00:08:35.920 exceptions to the rule, and they tried to make it work, it probably could have been
00:08:39.880 happier in the long term.
00:08:43.880 I don't necessarily think that a break-up means that you're going to start sleeping
00:08:47.920 around, start dating around.
00:08:49.640 I think some women do wait.
00:08:51.760 I find men do move on pretty quick and they seem to not be as picky.
00:08:59.520 I do think that they move on a bit quicker.
00:09:02.220 I don't know.
00:09:03.920 I'm unsure of my opinion because there's so many different variables.
00:09:07.240 Like, do they have kids?
00:09:09.240 Are they married?
00:09:10.860 Were they together for a long time?
00:09:12.700 I'm just saying if there's 100 high-profile break-ups, who typically wins?
00:09:17.420 Who typically wins, men or women?
00:09:19.700 Can it be none of them?
00:09:21.040 Because there's so much drama around it?
00:09:23.060 No, you have to pick one.
00:09:23.880 The question takes one.
00:09:24.920 Oh, okay.
00:09:28.240 I think the woman.
00:09:29.600 The woman?
00:09:30.140 Yeah.
00:09:30.720 Tell me why.
00:09:31.440 Because, as I said, the man moves on very quick and he's not as picky.
00:09:36.600 And he can seem to get a lot younger partner than a woman would if a woman's had
00:09:43.460 children, then there's that too.
00:09:46.200 So then what did the women lose?
00:09:48.980 What did the women lose?
00:09:50.200 Yeah, it seems like you're saying the man could get like a younger.
00:09:52.680 What I'm saying is that they can't move on.
00:09:55.380 Maybe they want a relationship after that breakup and it's harder for them because they
00:09:59.920 have children maybe.
00:10:01.480 And then there's more to consider.
00:10:03.120 It's not just black and white.
00:10:04.320 Even though the man has children as well, when they move on, that doesn't seem to hinder
00:10:09.400 their dating experience.
00:10:10.660 They can still date and move on and do what they want.
00:10:13.720 It doesn't stop that.
00:10:16.000 So it's just based on what you said, it sounds like you're saying that the women lose and
00:10:20.060 the men win.
00:10:21.120 Yeah.
00:10:21.460 Okay.
00:10:22.080 Okay.
00:10:22.320 You said the opposite when you started.
00:10:24.080 I thought I said, no, I thought I said that the women lose.
00:10:28.060 Am I crazy?
00:10:29.440 Maybe, maybe.
00:10:30.040 I thought I said the women lose.
00:10:31.340 Maybe you did.
00:10:32.180 Okay.
00:10:32.820 Go ahead.
00:10:34.400 I think it's, it is a difficult one.
00:10:36.280 It is a broad one.
00:10:37.320 I think if you're looking at high profile celebrity status and breakups, I think generally depending
00:10:46.660 on how they break up, I think it depicts on how it would end up, but probably women would
00:10:52.940 lose in terms of emotionally, I think, especially if there's children as well, pretty much in
00:10:59.460 terms of men, I don't think they're emotionally attached as much as women.
00:11:04.720 I think women tend to be more emotionally attached than men.
00:11:07.760 So in a breakup, I think when women break up, they break up way before they actually physically
00:11:14.780 break up with a man.
00:11:15.660 Whereas a man, I think they're quite flippant and they will do it spur of the moment.
00:11:20.620 It's how they're feeling.
00:11:21.440 So I think in terms of who generally wins, I would probably say men in that aspect, because
00:11:28.000 I feel like they're mentally there way before women are probably there.
00:11:32.840 Okay.
00:11:33.580 What do you think?
00:11:36.720 See, I think the opposite to you.
00:11:38.780 I feel like a woman knows in her head that she's going to break up with a guy before she's
00:11:45.540 actually going to do it.
00:11:46.680 Yeah.
00:11:46.820 Like the other way around.
00:11:48.600 I think that's what she said.
00:11:49.800 I think that's what I said.
00:11:50.380 Oh, yeah.
00:11:51.260 You just repeated exactly what she said.
00:11:53.700 My bad.
00:11:54.240 Um, so yeah, I feel like when it comes to actually breaking up, I feel like women are more prepared
00:12:01.760 for that actually happening that I don't think men think to, especially if they're comfortable
00:12:07.460 in the relationship.
00:12:09.760 They're not really thinking about it too tough.
00:12:14.060 So I would say maybe men lose more because I just think they're going to, they don't see
00:12:20.680 it coming as often.
00:12:22.240 But you think men are more hurt after breakups and women, like women move on quicker.
00:12:25.960 Yeah.
00:12:26.340 Okay.
00:12:27.080 Or like they start that process before.
00:12:30.380 Yeah.
00:12:30.460 Because by the time the woman does it, she's been thinking about it for six months.
00:12:33.740 What do you think about dating options after?
00:12:35.940 Do you think, who do you think typically is more dating options after a relationship, men
00:12:39.260 or women?
00:12:43.400 I think it depends on the man or the woman.
00:12:46.620 Like.
00:12:46.660 So in high profile cases, um, again, I think it depends on the, if you had to pick one,
00:13:05.420 maybe men in high profile cases.
00:13:09.580 Cause I think for a high profile man, you'll have more women wanting to do whatever for you
00:13:16.100 than the other way around.
00:13:18.200 Auntie, what do you think?
00:13:21.820 At first I was going to say, before you brought the sexism into it, I was going to say the
00:13:26.340 person with the most money wins initially cause they're out of it.
00:13:32.360 But then the women, right.
00:13:34.180 Then if it's the man and he's got most money and they split up, then the woman might think
00:13:38.180 she's winning because she gets like money and the kids and whatever.
00:13:43.940 But then she's.
00:13:46.100 Less attractive to the outside world.
00:13:50.560 So she might have thought she's winning.
00:13:52.400 She might think she's won initially.
00:13:55.060 But then I think the men in the end win, cause they can get any woman out there.
00:13:58.660 They're the one younger that looks a whole lot better than the old bag that they've left.
00:14:02.340 So, you know, all the stretch marks and everything is gone.
00:14:06.540 Cause when you look at all of those, whoever had the most money got someone younger.
00:14:11.140 And even though their partner's gone and thought, well, yeah, like, um, what do you call it?
00:14:18.420 The, the guy, the perfume, the aftershave guy, what's his name?
00:14:21.840 The one you just mentioned.
00:14:22.760 Tom Brady?
00:14:23.680 Yeah.
00:14:24.140 That's him.
00:14:25.120 The aftershave guy?
00:14:26.100 I don't know.
00:14:26.600 They're an aftershave name like that or something.
00:14:29.400 You're thinking of something forward.
00:14:30.900 Oh, sorry.
00:14:31.540 See, I don't know what you're saying.
00:14:33.040 I don't know what you're saying.
00:14:34.100 Okay.
00:14:34.880 I know it's something to do with sports, but he split up and she's gone and she's got this guy.
00:14:40.980 So when they said about women, I find that in the public eye, sometimes the women move on faster.
00:14:45.280 Cause the men are less cautious cause they've lost a lot of money.
00:14:47.240 So they're not moving on fast, but afterwards they can get a younger person.
00:14:51.600 So the women would go out there and they would say, oh, we're going to get married again.
00:14:54.420 And we're going to get hooked up.
00:14:55.380 We're going to settle down.
00:14:56.520 And the men, they just go out there and get a young lady and play the field because they can.
00:14:59.300 So the women might lose out, you know, the men lose out more financially, but in the long run, of course, they got lucky.
00:15:07.340 They can go and get any young bird that they want.
00:15:09.540 Cause when you're a mature man and you've got money, you're attractive.
00:15:12.680 Unlike the women out there that got money because they don't look all that, all the plastic surgery and stuff that they need to keep up their looks.
00:15:21.300 But men just work out and they still look good.
00:15:23.820 Can I say something?
00:15:26.140 Tom Brady.
00:15:26.780 So if you've specified it's a high profile breakup, then I'm guessing we're talking about money here most of the time.
00:15:31.320 I'm talking about popularity.
00:15:32.940 Yeah.
00:15:34.320 Can I ask when they actually got divorced?
00:15:36.940 Do you know when?
00:15:39.200 Officially October, 2022.
00:15:41.800 Okay.
00:15:42.680 Okay.
00:15:43.240 Right.
00:15:43.700 Cause I was going to say, cause as an athlete, Tom Brady's spotlight, the reason why he's in spotlight is always going to constantly change.
00:15:50.780 Like when he, when he said he was going to retire, the spotlight was on just retiring.
00:15:56.220 Ain't nobody mentioned about him breaking up.
00:15:58.820 But.
00:15:59.880 I don't know.
00:16:00.360 It was all over the, like my YouTube feed.
00:16:02.940 Yeah.
00:16:03.240 Like it was, it was just on, um, right.
00:16:05.140 Megyn Kelly just did a special on it.
00:16:07.000 Yeah.
00:16:07.240 Right.
00:16:07.460 So I think my main part, so what I'm trying to say here is that the spotlight as an athlete for Tom Brady is going to change constantly.
00:16:12.360 So people are going to eventually forget that he's been divorced if he moves on with another person.
00:16:18.200 So I think for the female, it's more so like she's the one that broke up with Tom Brady.
00:16:22.680 It's such a big deal.
00:16:24.160 And I think the hate that's going to come for the women is more than it is for the men.
00:16:28.540 Just considering the fact that he's such a high profile athlete.
00:16:30.620 Would you say in society, men are valued more for what they build, where women are more valued for the relationships they can keep?
00:16:37.820 A hundred percent.
00:16:39.080 A hundred percent.
00:16:40.100 Cause Tom Brady can now do something crazy and invest in this many stuff.
00:16:44.240 Invest like a billion dollar company.
00:16:45.880 Maybe that's what's going to be.
00:16:47.460 That's what he's going to be in the spotlight for.
00:16:48.920 Or it's like Elon Musk.
00:16:50.100 I mean, how many baby mothers does he have?
00:16:52.220 But no one.
00:16:54.100 Each to their own, isn't it?
00:16:55.280 But no one really talks about it.
00:16:57.140 But if the roles were reversed and it was a woman and she had the same company, but she had like three, I don't know how many he has, but like three, four baby fathers.
00:17:05.160 People would still look at her funny, no matter how successful she is.
00:17:08.080 It's going to be long for her.
00:17:09.160 And that's just how it is, unfortunately.
00:17:12.420 Have any of you ever looked at an ex's Instagram or Facebook to see how they're doing after a breakup?
00:17:19.660 Yeah.
00:17:19.860 All the time.
00:17:20.620 Has anyone ever done that?
00:17:23.700 Anyone?
00:17:25.460 Two?
00:17:26.060 Okay.
00:17:26.460 So the majority.
00:17:27.260 Oh, two.
00:17:27.860 What are you?
00:17:28.340 What are you?
00:17:28.780 I shouldn't put my hand up really.
00:17:30.040 Cause nobody I've been out of the done Facebook.
00:17:32.040 Why are you half?
00:17:34.300 Huh?
00:17:35.020 I was like, why are you half raising your hand?
00:17:36.500 Cause I don't know if I should say too much.
00:17:38.100 I'm joking.
00:17:39.120 I'm joking.
00:17:39.520 Anybody that's watching, I'm joking.
00:17:40.940 I promise.
00:17:42.180 I think you promise.
00:17:43.560 But, um, yeah, I haven't.
00:17:45.580 Do you guys get mad if the girl you feel like is prettier than you or better looking?
00:17:50.220 Not just happy.
00:17:51.680 You're happy for them?
00:17:52.860 Good for you.
00:17:53.640 I feel like for me personally, it depends on how soon after.
00:17:57.500 Yeah.
00:17:58.160 Break up.
00:17:58.740 Yeah.
00:17:59.080 So how, how soon would, would piss you off versus how soon would make you happy for them?
00:18:04.940 After she's moved on.
00:18:06.340 Yeah.
00:18:07.980 If I haven't moved on, you can't.
00:18:10.980 Or you can, just not someone better looking than me.
00:18:15.580 Does it depend on the ex too?
00:18:18.240 Like how much you liked the ex, whether you're happy for them or mad?
00:18:21.440 No, no, just happy to move on.
00:18:24.740 So I, I kind of look at life as lessons.
00:18:27.500 So for me not to be with someone, I mean, it's taken me a while to get here to be fair,
00:18:31.720 but it's my stance now.
00:18:33.360 It wasn't previously, possibly maybe before, but I think everyone, there's a reason behind
00:18:39.960 everything and a why.
00:18:41.140 And I think if we're not meant to be together, then we're not meant to be together.
00:18:46.020 Be happy.
00:18:47.180 Good luck to the next person.
00:18:49.640 I mean, I'm still kind of mad.
00:18:51.060 I mean, I don't wish you the best.
00:18:53.720 It's taken me a long while to get here, but yeah, I just think, yeah.
00:18:57.560 I don't think that at all.
00:18:59.880 I think if it's a bad breakup, you think, you see him with somebody else, you think,
00:19:03.280 yeah, she, I'm glad she's got you.
00:19:04.900 I ain't got you.
00:19:05.320 I was going to say the same.
00:19:07.880 You're someone else's problem now.
00:19:08.800 I was going to say the same.
00:19:10.200 It works both ways.
00:19:11.360 But then if it was a good breakup, you know, you just spit, you just spit to yourself.
00:19:16.300 I've got you there.
00:19:17.340 You deserve her.
00:19:18.400 Because she ain't going to be as good as me, but well done.
00:19:21.680 Because women are bitches and they're always going to say things like that anyway.
00:19:24.100 You're not going to say you're going to be happy for someone you just spit out with them.
00:19:26.280 Come on.
00:19:26.760 But is a bad breakup better than a good one?
00:19:29.540 I don't know.
00:19:30.380 Is it bad?
00:19:30.840 What do you mean?
00:19:31.300 Is it bad?
00:19:31.980 Like, if I, if I was to break up with someone, there's either two ways that I can break up.
00:19:35.960 One, we have like the most craziest fight and I say, fuck you.
00:19:39.220 And I leave.
00:19:40.440 Or it could be, right, we're going to sit down and talk.
00:19:42.620 We're going to figure this out.
00:19:43.320 Or why it didn't work out.
00:19:44.440 But at the end of the day, I just don't want to be with you.
00:19:46.300 And it's both, on both parties, it's the same.
00:19:48.460 What's going to help me?
00:19:49.280 Like, in which circumstance am I going to be like, yeah, you know what?
00:19:52.240 If you moved on to another girl, I'll be like, yeah, good for you.
00:19:55.040 Do you get it?
00:19:55.640 Because either way, if, if we end up in a fight and you left, I'll be like, good for you.
00:20:00.420 So which would you prefer?
00:20:01.660 The bad breakup or the?
00:20:03.800 I think I prefer amicable.
00:20:06.760 Okay.
00:20:07.020 Sit down and talk.
00:20:08.960 Like, that's what I'd prefer anyway.
00:20:10.900 I don't know, sometimes if it's a bad breakup, it's just like, it makes you get over it faster.
00:20:15.680 You think so?
00:20:16.360 That's why I'd prefer the bad ones, because it's just like, done and out of the way.
00:20:20.100 I mean, it's like, you don't, because you don't want to deal with the drama of it.
00:20:23.320 But at the same time, then you're just over it.
00:20:26.280 You've got things to say.
00:20:27.760 Oh, no, no, no, what's a bad breakup?
00:20:29.260 What entails a bad breakup?
00:20:30.440 It sounds all crazy.
00:20:31.700 Can I hear what everybody's, what's your worst breakup ever been like?
00:20:35.840 Because it sounds like you's out there doing something.
00:20:37.900 It's crazy.
00:20:39.320 My ex broke into my flat after I ended it, I think two months after I ended it, he broke
00:20:44.000 into my flat and hid in my wardrobe.
00:20:45.920 Oh, my God.
00:20:46.940 Wow.
00:20:47.580 Stop waiting.
00:20:48.580 Wow.
00:20:50.720 All right, so wait, okay, okay.
00:20:52.840 Is this the end of it?
00:20:53.840 She spoke.
00:20:54.720 Oh, she...
00:20:55.120 You're looking over there, wasn't it?
00:20:56.640 No, I'm watching you.
00:20:58.280 Yeah, I'm watching.
00:20:59.000 Okay, wait, so, so, okay.
00:21:01.360 Wait, what?
00:21:01.860 Who broke up with you?
00:21:03.180 I, so, it was quite bad.
00:21:05.980 I ended it with him, but he had nowhere to go, and I said, oh, I will support you.
00:21:10.120 So, you lived to get...
00:21:10.940 Was he a bum?
00:21:12.580 Was he living with you?
00:21:13.740 Yeah.
00:21:14.540 I was paying the rent.
00:21:15.840 Okay, okay, so...
00:21:16.780 I should just put clown on for it.
00:21:19.160 Was he hot?
00:21:21.020 How tall was he?
00:21:22.240 A bit taller.
00:21:23.740 How tall?
00:21:24.520 Just a couple of inches.
00:21:25.040 You don't say that, Pearl.
00:21:26.260 You say, was he good in bed?
00:21:27.380 I was better in bed.
00:21:30.860 I was better in bed.
00:21:32.140 No wonder he broke in.
00:21:35.520 Okay, okay, so, you break up with him, then what happened?
00:21:38.740 So, I supported him through the breakup, obviously, so he could get his own place,
00:21:44.140 because I knew if I kicked him out, he'd turn back up on my doorstep.
00:21:48.020 Don't want that.
00:21:48.880 So, he moved out.
00:21:50.940 Everything was fine.
00:21:51.740 I was even praying to God, like, please, just let this go nicely.
00:21:55.820 He left.
00:21:56.600 He left.
00:21:57.380 About two...
00:21:58.540 A month later, I'm hearing my name outside my house.
00:22:00.660 I'm thinking, what the hell, calling my family?
00:22:03.640 Everyone's saying, are you sure you're not having a mental breakdown?
00:22:06.580 They actually believed I was losing my mind.
00:22:10.360 And then, on my birthday, which was like a month after that,
00:22:14.180 he'd broke into my house.
00:22:15.480 He was hiding in my wardrobe.
00:22:17.700 And, yeah, it just went...
00:22:20.980 Like, he didn't come out, but I could smell him in my house.
00:22:24.140 How long was he there before?
00:22:25.880 I don't know.
00:22:26.580 No, seriously, because he was outside, and I took my heels off and run up four flights
00:22:31.560 of stairs, and then I've gone in, shut the door behind me, and everyone's trying to get
00:22:35.580 in.
00:22:36.600 And I was just like, when I find you, it's over.
00:22:40.060 I could just smell him in my flat, and I couldn't find him.
00:22:43.180 And then I left, and then I left, and he broke out afterwards.
00:22:45.440 I've heard of a woman breaking into a man's house.
00:22:52.440 I've heard of a woman breaking into a man's, but it's the first time I've heard of a man
00:22:57.260 breaking into a woman.
00:22:57.980 T, what are you doing if someone stands out of your house like that, and comes inside into
00:23:01.280 your wardrobe?
00:23:01.660 What are you doing?
00:23:02.260 No, you're inside your mind.
00:23:05.860 That's the law.
00:23:07.060 That's the law, isn't it?
00:23:08.100 My property, you're inside.
00:23:09.820 I never invited you.
00:23:11.280 You know, I'm not leaving.
00:23:12.620 You have to get past me.
00:23:14.860 Are we fighting them?
00:23:16.440 I'm not fighting.
00:23:17.260 I'm defending myself, because I'm at the door.
00:23:19.000 There's a difference.
00:23:20.020 Okay.
00:23:20.820 Legally.
00:23:22.060 That's what I mean.
00:23:22.760 I know what I'm saying.
00:23:23.620 I know what I'm saying.
00:23:25.680 What else?
00:23:26.440 Who else?
00:23:27.120 Anyone?
00:23:27.600 Yeah, crazy.
00:23:28.580 Worst breakup.
00:23:29.600 Is it worst breakup, or is it worse the person, if the person is bad?
00:23:33.980 Yeah, the worst breakup I want to hear.
00:23:35.560 Yeah.
00:23:37.020 I want to hear that people's friends.
00:23:37.660 I'd say, are there nice breakups?
00:23:39.340 Are there ever nice breakups?
00:23:40.460 Has anyone had a nice breakup?
00:23:41.560 I've had a nice breakup.
00:23:42.740 Have you?
00:23:43.480 Yeah, most of them have been nice.
00:23:44.660 Yes, there is.
00:23:45.560 There is such thing as a nice breakup, guys.
00:23:48.200 We all have a communication here.
00:23:49.020 So tell me about the one that wasn't nice.
00:23:51.060 What happened?
00:23:53.500 Do I really want to go into that?
00:23:57.320 Just move over it.
00:23:58.700 Did you do it back to it?
00:23:59.360 Yeah, so way back in my past, I'm not going to go to my recent.
00:24:04.740 Way back in my past, I had someone that was a bit obsessive, actually.
00:24:10.520 He left.
00:24:11.640 He finished the relationship.
00:24:12.800 And then he thought he could go away for the weekend, mess around a bit and come back.
00:24:19.720 And I'd had enough.
00:24:20.520 And I said, no.
00:24:21.940 And then he was finding me in the streets on his hands and knees, crying, begging.
00:24:29.320 You know, yeah, it's a bit messy.
00:24:31.840 And he would try and break in, but he didn't ever succeed.
00:24:34.600 He was trying to break it?
00:24:35.620 Yeah, he put a ladder up to the window and also, there was a lot.
00:24:38.640 Is this a common thing?
00:24:39.760 There was a lot.
00:24:41.380 Yeah, he didn't get in, but it was weird.
00:24:43.880 Why are you nodding?
00:24:44.840 Is that how you're doing?
00:24:45.500 No, no, no.
00:24:46.360 I'm not involved in this one.
00:24:48.040 Yeah.
00:24:48.440 So he put a ladder onto your door and tried to, or up to your window?
00:24:53.720 No, no, up to the second, yeah.
00:24:55.240 And then tried to get in.
00:24:57.240 Try to get in, yeah.
00:24:58.320 Did you call the cops?
00:25:00.620 Did I call it?
00:25:01.240 Do you know it was a long time?
00:25:02.060 No, I don't think I did.
00:25:02.900 I think I just got out of the way of the window.
00:25:05.260 He couldn't get in.
00:25:06.060 So what was he going to do?
00:25:07.040 It was just stupid.
00:25:07.880 It was just such a stupid thing to do.
00:25:09.460 Okay, you go up a ladder.
00:25:10.480 Go back down again.
00:25:11.420 See ya.
00:25:11.880 Yeah.
00:25:12.560 All right.
00:25:13.480 Have fun.
00:25:13.840 Wow, I can't believe there's two people in here.
00:25:16.520 Yeah, he didn't succeed though, and he didn't hide in a wardrobe.
00:25:20.360 I mean, he did do some weird things over the years, but I'm not going to go into stuff.
00:25:25.380 Okay.
00:25:26.740 Is dating a younger, more attractive man than your ex considered a win?
00:25:31.180 Why or why not?
00:25:34.180 Doesn't it depend on how he treats you and what person he is, how he carries himself,
00:25:39.940 whether he's holding doors open for you, whether all those nice things that you like from
00:25:44.340 a man to be treated like a woman, is he doing those things?
00:25:49.940 Does age really matter?
00:25:52.680 Can I just say, if I was to date a younger guy than I was dating or I'm dating, whatever
00:25:58.000 the situation may be, I'd probably catch a case.
00:26:00.800 Yeah, you're young now.
00:26:01.960 Damn, what about someone that's 17?
00:26:03.960 It's crazy.
00:26:05.480 I've got a bit of leeway.
00:26:07.040 You've got no leeway.
00:26:07.960 What are you talking about?
00:26:09.560 Sorry, the question's based on the Tom Brady and Giselle.
00:26:14.220 Okay.
00:26:14.680 What's catch a case?
00:26:15.660 She was dating a 24-year-old.
00:26:17.360 What do you mean catch a case?
00:26:18.280 How old is she?
00:26:19.040 She's 40-something.
00:26:21.860 I mean, I don't know if I'd want to date a man that's that much younger, because it
00:26:26.120 takes men a while.
00:26:28.380 They have to get some things out of their system before they settle down.
00:26:31.620 And yeah, they mature a lot slower.
00:26:34.680 I don't know if I'd want to do that.
00:26:35.940 No, but then you've got to look at it as, are you actually looking to have a, are you,
00:26:40.100 for the younger person, you're actually looking to have a relationship?
00:26:42.580 I don't date without having a relationship.
00:26:45.360 I don't get involved with anyone unless I see a relationship potential.
00:26:49.340 I don't do that.
00:26:49.880 Sorry, one thing that I would point out is women typically don't want younger men, and
00:26:55.360 attractive is somewhat secondary.
00:26:58.420 I think for men, if they had a, you know, a younger, more attractive new person than
00:27:05.200 their ex, then it would be a win for them, because that is kind of their dating metric.
00:27:08.620 That's what they look for.
00:27:10.180 Whereas with women, I would typically look for someone that's older.
00:27:13.220 Like my partner's a little older than me, um, and attraction, you know, a lot of times
00:27:20.080 women can replace that with, for example, you know, status or money.
00:27:24.580 Whereas with men, if you're not attractive, they won't even give you the time of day.
00:27:27.920 So the question was kind of asked in reverse.
00:27:30.900 It wouldn't be, you know, a win for women, but definitely for men.
00:27:34.080 I think, I think that it'd be a win for women if the younger person, younger person, if the
00:27:40.720 younger person was, um, more mature, because sometimes you get a younger man, he's more
00:27:47.300 mature than the other man you've left.
00:27:49.560 Is it rare?
00:27:50.540 It's rare though, isn't it?
00:27:52.300 I'm a rarity.
00:27:54.220 Yeah, but is the man rare?
00:27:56.420 I know you're a rarity, but.
00:27:58.240 No, sometimes, no, there's a lot of good young men out there.
00:28:00.440 No, but then if you're actively going out seeking a younger guy saying, oh yeah, this
00:28:04.440 is going to make my husband feel shit, like, I'm going to go with that, he's going to be
00:28:08.920 like, oh, he's probably more sexually active, probably more good looking, probably has better
00:28:12.700 things coming for him.
00:28:13.780 I think that's kind of, that's kind of low key tapped, like, high key.
00:28:17.340 In fact, like, if you're thinking about getting with someone to degrade someone that you've
00:28:21.160 been with before, it kind of just shows your character.
00:28:23.160 And I don't think that's how we should be approaching it, especially right now.
00:28:26.000 And as women, I don't think that's how we should approach it before we get labelled on stuff
00:28:28.920 we don't want to.
00:28:29.500 I agree.
00:28:30.060 I think that's getting with someone for a different reason.
00:28:32.180 That's slag behaviour.
00:28:34.620 Antti, don't you think?
00:28:36.020 If it's like a 40-year-old woman and a 25-year-old man, what future could there be, no matter how
00:28:42.700 nice of a young man he is?
00:28:44.160 She'll get good sex for about 10 years before he leaves her.
00:28:48.080 I'll be up for that.
00:28:50.760 What can I plot?
00:28:51.620 Then we went to the next one.
00:28:53.620 But no, I mean.
00:28:55.020 Okay.
00:28:57.060 So would you say that's a win then for her?
00:28:58.740 It's a win for her.
00:28:59.780 Good on her.
00:29:02.780 That's what I was saying.
00:29:05.800 They talk about equality, innit?
00:29:07.580 And that younger man, well, good on him.
00:29:10.080 He's out there with an older woman who's got a bit of dosh.
00:29:12.160 Why not?
00:29:12.520 I think some men like older women.
00:29:16.900 And I don't know whether it's mummy issues, but I feel like they like to be mothered.
00:29:20.520 And I think older women tend to wrap them up and look after them.
00:29:26.120 No, I just think that older women knows how to look after a man rather than young people nowadays.
00:29:32.240 So what you might see as mothering might be just a traditional woman looking after a man.
00:29:36.420 And that's what it is.
00:29:37.640 Because if you get an older woman there and she decides to go and give her man dinner,
00:29:42.120 go and cook dinner and put it on the tray, you'd be like, what?
00:29:45.420 See what I mean?
00:29:46.400 And you might think, oh, she's mothering him.
00:29:48.020 But that's what women do.
00:29:49.600 Well, and younger guys, like the guys that I know that will go for older women,
00:29:53.940 it's typically because they want casual sex.
00:29:55.960 And they just think it's easier to get it from them.
00:29:57.940 Yeah, that's what I said.
00:29:58.920 Good sex for 10 years.
00:29:59.880 Yeah, you're right.
00:30:02.100 And if it lasts longer, that's a bonus.
00:30:08.400 Would you guys ever date someone for a long period of time knowing there's no long-term future?
00:30:14.780 What being a situationship, basically?
00:30:18.080 No.
00:30:18.740 No.
00:30:19.180 Absolutely not.
00:30:20.080 Waste of time.
00:30:20.840 You're wasting your youth.
00:30:22.140 No.
00:30:22.700 I'd do it.
00:30:23.340 I'd do it.
00:30:24.960 I'd do it.
00:30:25.440 If I didn't have nightmares, I'd do it.
00:30:26.960 Don't you think you may be passing past, like someone who's right for you,
00:30:31.040 maybe you may miss them whilst wasting your time on someone else.
00:30:33.600 If you miss them, it's like a bus, isn't it?
00:30:35.180 Catch them again.
00:30:36.020 What?
00:30:36.340 I said, if you miss them.
00:30:37.300 No, she was saying that.
00:30:38.600 I'd rather.
00:30:39.140 Next one comes along.
00:30:40.100 Yeah, because, I'm sorry, but if you're with someone and you just think, you know what?
00:30:43.920 I mean, just thinking realistically, you either don't have anyone and let time fast you by
00:30:49.280 and then, or use all your roses and your lips and whatever,
00:30:53.260 or you find a young man and you just think, you know what?
00:30:56.620 I've got you for five years or I've got a man for five years and you just enjoy yourself.
00:30:59.860 You're not looking for nothing else.
00:31:01.460 You might be a busy businesswoman that don't want a relationship
00:31:04.480 and you might have come to an agreement with someone.
00:31:07.080 Do you know what?
00:31:07.500 We're just going to see each other, but we've got five, ten years to waste.
00:31:12.300 I personally think that only works for a short period of time.
00:31:14.860 You can only be so uncertain for a short period of time
00:31:17.240 and that initially happens at the beginning.
00:31:18.960 Maybe, like, give it three, four months.
00:31:20.860 You'll probably start liking them and being like, yeah, I want to get into a relationship.
00:31:23.720 But then they're going to use the fact that you went into a relationship
00:31:25.740 without no intention of getting together in the future
00:31:28.040 to basically go, yeah, nah, I'm not really getting into one.
00:31:31.380 That's one of the main mistakes that women make.
00:31:33.400 That is.
00:31:34.100 So, I think that only works for a short period of time.
00:31:36.080 You can only be uncertain for a very short period of time.
00:31:38.800 Sooner or later, you will end up liking the person, believe it or not.
00:31:41.440 How soon will you guys have that conversation of where something is going?
00:31:47.320 Is that something you guys do on the first date, third date, a month in?
00:31:51.760 Depends who they are.
00:31:54.000 Does it not depend on before you even get to that point,
00:31:57.580 knowing where you're actually at in terms of wanting a relationship or not?
00:32:02.200 Well, I'm saying if you want to be in something long term
00:32:05.400 and you meet a guy and go on a date with him,
00:32:08.320 how long until you ask him where it's going?
00:32:09.920 For me, personally, it would be before we become intimate
00:32:14.520 or, like, I shed that kind of energy.
00:32:18.500 Can I just say something before you become intimate?
00:32:21.260 So, how many dates are you going to go on before you become intimate?
00:32:23.720 I'm just thinking about the guy could be taking you out, like, four or five times
00:32:26.660 and then you're going to turn around and say, no, I'd be vexed if I was a man.
00:32:30.640 I'm taking you out on five dates and you're going to turn me out getting that and four in.
00:32:33.780 I'm going to be vexed.
00:32:34.640 Let's be honest.
00:32:35.200 I'm going to be vexed.
00:32:36.300 Damn, auntie, you're really dating.
00:32:38.320 You're acting on the bed.
00:32:40.640 No, it's true.
00:32:42.000 Because you've got, all right, then, think about it from a man's point of view.
00:32:44.400 You like this girl and you're talking.
00:32:46.540 You're going to take her out on these dates.
00:32:48.640 And then after the fifth date, she's going to be like, you know what,
00:32:51.320 I can't really see a future.
00:32:52.940 I'll be like, give my money back.
00:32:54.480 You know what I mean?
00:32:55.100 I'm wasting my money on you.
00:32:56.360 Give my money back.
00:32:57.320 I think it should be done, like, from day one.
00:32:59.640 From the time you started talking, like, yeah, what's your name?
00:33:01.980 And, like, I'm dating with intention.
00:33:03.340 You either like me or you don't like me.
00:33:04.500 You move on.
00:33:05.320 But to go on dates and then turn around and say,
00:33:08.580 he should keep all the receipts and answer his money back,
00:33:11.520 or at least 50%.
00:33:12.740 But for someone to say that you really must not have liked the dates like that,
00:33:15.620 you're probably just focusing on trying to get
00:33:17.260 a different type of intimacy with a person.
00:33:19.620 No, the question was, how long would it be before, like,
00:33:23.000 if you're going to get serious with someone?
00:33:25.020 So to go on dates, she's asking when.
00:33:27.340 Now, I remember I said to someone, like, when you meet someone,
00:33:29.720 they want to take you out and say, you know,
00:33:31.580 what are your intentions towards me?
00:33:32.880 I'm dating with the intention before you even go out on a date.
00:33:36.100 From the time you're going out on a date,
00:33:37.980 you're giving them false hope.
00:33:40.260 You're giving them false hope.
00:33:41.420 From the time you said, yes, I'm going to go on a date,
00:33:42.980 you think, yeah, I'm in there.
00:33:44.240 And then the next date, yeah, I'm in there.
00:33:45.820 I'm getting close on clock.
00:33:46.820 They go, no, you're not my type.
00:33:48.220 After four or five dates.
00:33:49.300 Actually, to be fair, I hear you.
00:33:50.540 I actually do hear you.
00:33:51.360 I think that's what I was trying to say before.
00:33:53.000 I think it's before knowing, before you get to that point,
00:33:55.400 what you want, going into whether you're going to have a date
00:33:59.320 or going into a relationship, I think.
00:34:01.500 Women know.
00:34:02.140 You can just look at a man and see, you know.
00:34:03.800 Even before you go on a date, you know.
00:34:05.280 So when you go on a date, you already know.
00:34:07.020 You can tell by the first date that you don't like him.
00:34:09.720 I mean, I kind of, maybe the phone call?
00:34:14.020 I think you get that connection and it is about that energy.
00:34:18.020 And I think we do feel that and we do know prior to going forth
00:34:24.140 with anything else.
00:34:25.020 So I do think those that say, I just want to see and wait
00:34:27.880 and see how it goes on, I think deep down,
00:34:29.960 we truly know before we even go to that point.
00:34:32.040 They just hedge your bets.
00:34:32.960 They just say, you know what, I'm going to go on dates with him
00:34:34.920 because something better might come around.
00:34:37.320 But sometimes you can know someone's not right,
00:34:39.900 but you're highly attracted to them, so you keep going back.
00:34:42.680 Like, and there were those that are called toxic nowadays.
00:34:46.760 To do what?
00:34:47.100 Toxic.
00:34:47.660 To do what?
00:34:47.940 You go back to meet up.
00:34:49.320 You know, some people, well, there's a lot of people
00:34:51.280 that sleep around.
00:34:52.040 They know that it's not going to go on purpose.
00:34:54.220 Yeah.
00:34:54.500 So are you like a friends of benefit?
00:34:56.340 I feel like if you get into a situation where you're basically
00:34:58.920 you're friends of benefits, you've kind of already established
00:35:00.740 what is going on in the relationship, right?
00:35:02.240 But I feel like if you're, before you even go on a date,
00:35:08.080 personally, I'd speak to the person first.
00:35:10.500 Probably like, give it like a week, give it like a week or two.
00:35:13.280 You'd know if you even want to go on the date.
00:35:15.180 That's the thing.
00:35:16.200 But for you to go on five dates and be like, yeah, I'm not,
00:35:18.620 I'm not like fucking you.
00:35:19.740 Yeah, I can see that.
00:35:21.740 If I'm being honest, a man has to make my fanny flower.
00:35:24.620 If you're not making my fanny flower,
00:35:26.900 then I feel like there's nowhere to go.
00:35:29.160 Like there has to be that sexual chemistry as well as that energy
00:35:33.580 and that connection.
00:35:34.660 I think it has to be there.
00:35:35.720 I think it is important.
00:35:36.980 But don't forget about it.
00:35:38.640 Like your fanny can flutter at the beginning.
00:35:41.380 Do you know what I mean?
00:35:42.380 And then it's like, you get there and then you're like,
00:35:47.240 are you dead?
00:35:48.280 Do you know what I mean?
00:35:49.720 All of a sudden it just stops.
00:35:51.160 And that's how women know.
00:35:52.220 Because the man would still be going in there that year,
00:35:54.020 we're having sex.
00:35:54.580 And we're like, you know what?
00:35:55.360 I'm dead below the waist for you.
00:35:56.980 Do you know what I mean?
00:35:57.360 And then you're just going to build up how to dump him.
00:36:00.080 Don't, auntie.
00:36:00.980 So don't follow your fanny.
00:36:03.940 No, I'm saying don't follow your fanny,
00:36:05.860 but I have to have that fanny flutter with somebody
00:36:08.480 that I'm going to be looking.
00:36:10.200 I think that's important part of,
00:36:12.300 that's got to be in my shopping basket.
00:36:15.160 Being able to, that physical attraction,
00:36:16.980 that sexual attraction with a man,
00:36:18.380 as well as being able to have that intellectual conversation
00:36:20.660 and have that fun factor as well.
00:36:25.580 I think there's a lot of...
00:36:26.780 So what's not in the shopping bag?
00:36:28.660 What are you willing to give up?
00:36:30.840 Because if he's a good looking guy
00:36:32.740 that makes your like fanny flutter,
00:36:34.580 a lot of women are going to want him.
00:36:36.440 Can I say what I want in my basket?
00:36:38.440 And then everything else can't be in my basket.
00:36:40.620 Okay, go ahead.
00:36:41.280 Go ahead.
00:36:41.480 I think honesty is important.
00:36:44.140 I think communication is key.
00:36:48.940 I think I'm at a point in my life now
00:36:51.220 where I need consistency to feel safe and secure.
00:36:55.980 And obviously that physical attraction, have fun.
00:36:58.860 What I don't want is somebody dictating to me,
00:37:02.020 telling me what I can and can't do.
00:37:04.740 Abusive, whichever way, shape or form that may look.
00:37:09.120 So yeah, I think...
00:37:10.240 That's a shopping trolley.
00:37:11.440 That ain't even a basket.
00:37:13.220 She's done for having nothing in a basket
00:37:15.180 so I have a whole trolley.
00:37:16.860 They're the things that I would get rid of.
00:37:18.420 Yeah, so I think, you know, that's me.
00:37:23.740 What about you guys?
00:37:25.460 What would you guys want in a guy?
00:37:27.940 I have everything I want now.
00:37:29.860 Aww.
00:37:31.840 Shout out to my boyfriend.
00:37:33.480 Not to be cringe, but I can't be like,
00:37:35.200 well, I want this because I'm flyers.
00:37:36.520 I don't have it.
00:37:37.000 No.
00:37:37.760 He looks after me.
00:37:39.240 He flees me.
00:37:40.460 He does everything I need, thankfully.
00:37:43.180 Is he more than five years older than you?
00:37:45.820 Yeah, well, he's five years older than me.
00:37:47.780 See, that was a good guess, wasn't it?
00:37:48.960 That was all right.
00:37:52.880 What would I want?
00:37:55.040 You know, I used to be big on saying,
00:37:57.220 I want communication.
00:37:59.020 Anybody that asked me what I wanted,
00:38:00.920 I'd always be like,
00:38:02.060 I'm the best communicator in the world.
00:38:03.560 I need someone to communicate just as well as me.
00:38:06.480 But you realise that communication comes in different forms
00:38:08.700 and it's always not going to be compatible with you.
00:38:10.380 So even when someone is,
00:38:11.440 you'd think they wouldn't be.
00:38:12.420 You're asking a man to be a woman.
00:38:15.780 Asking, telling you to tell me what you want.
00:38:17.760 It's not asking me to be a woman.
00:38:19.060 I'm just telling you so that you don't get upset
00:38:20.620 if I don't do the stuff you want me to do.
00:38:22.160 How many men have told you to shut up and be quiet?
00:38:25.620 Nobody, and I hope no one.
00:38:27.600 Okay, yeah, I'm lucky.
00:38:29.760 Yeah, I am.
00:38:30.580 But a lot of the time...
00:38:31.460 I'm not going to stand someone
00:38:32.240 that's telling me to shut up.
00:38:33.700 But a lot of the time,
00:38:34.720 if men tell us what they really want,
00:38:37.140 we leave.
00:38:38.060 Because it's usually...
00:38:38.600 Yeah.
00:38:39.200 We have sex with multiple people
00:38:40.240 and you stay monogamous.
00:38:42.100 So when we get told that,
00:38:44.000 that's their form of honest communication
00:38:45.680 and we're just like,
00:38:47.200 all right, I'm going.
00:38:48.680 That's probably why they're not honest with us.
00:38:51.120 Probably, actually.
00:38:51.780 So she wants a good communicator.
00:38:53.280 She's got a shopping trolley.
00:38:54.440 I want to find out what everybody else wants.
00:38:56.600 Okay, so good communicator.
00:38:57.980 What else?
00:38:59.420 Someone that I find attractive.
00:39:03.120 Okay.
00:39:03.660 Is there a height requirement for that?
00:39:05.940 You're not that tall, I don't think.
00:39:07.820 Why are you calling me out like that?
00:39:08.620 No, I'm 5'3".
00:39:09.440 No, I don't have a height requirement.
00:39:11.960 You can be as tall as you like.
00:39:13.460 5'4"?
00:39:14.020 5'4"?
00:39:15.220 5'4"?
00:39:15.680 I don't think I'd go for some other shopping.
00:39:17.580 So there's a height requirement.
00:39:19.020 Yeah, just not shorter than me.
00:39:20.540 Sorry, yes, no.
00:39:21.780 A height requirement,
00:39:22.720 but just someone that's not shorter than me.
00:39:24.280 Okay, so 5'4"?
00:39:24.440 Just because I feel like I'd be more attracted
00:39:26.100 to someone that was taller than me
00:39:27.080 than shorter than me.
00:39:27.800 Same height is good?
00:39:29.040 Same height can be, yeah,
00:39:30.320 it can be all right.
00:39:31.180 We can try and make it work.
00:39:32.140 But you'd prefer like 5'5 at least?
00:39:33.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:39:34.060 Okay, go ahead.
00:39:34.960 So tall, 5'5 and up and good communicator.
00:39:39.140 Yeah, someone that's...
00:39:40.260 That's a funny story put up.
00:39:41.720 Someone that I'd prefer,
00:39:43.780 if I was to look for anybody,
00:39:46.020 and from the first time I even stepped my foot
00:39:48.560 into this dating world,
00:39:50.160 someone that's been in a previous relationship,
00:39:55.420 but however, I don't mean it in a way
00:39:58.060 where like you're still talking to them,
00:39:59.920 but I mean, in a way where like,
00:40:01.940 you know what is required in a relationship.
00:40:04.320 You know how to go about someone,
00:40:05.540 a significant other,
00:40:06.760 and how to talk to them,
00:40:08.140 how to look after them.
00:40:09.540 And I think, yeah,
00:40:10.480 so I think that's kind of important to me.
00:40:12.540 Not a deal breaker, but I would prefer that.
00:40:14.480 Okay, so 5'5 and taller.
00:40:16.600 Has been in a relationship good communicator.
00:40:18.780 Anything else?
00:40:21.860 Maybe something I'm not allowed to say on camera.
00:40:24.580 I'm joking.
00:40:26.100 I'm joking, I'm joking.
00:40:27.480 But yeah, that's all I got for
00:40:28.560 at the top of my head though.
00:40:29.680 Okay, what about you?
00:40:31.400 So I would say I'd like someone to be honest.
00:40:35.380 And even if that is brutally honest,
00:40:37.160 I prefer that.
00:40:40.320 Someone that is considerate.
00:40:43.640 Someone that I'm attracted to, first of all.
00:40:46.140 That's my number one.
00:40:47.700 And then the rest kind of follows.
00:40:48.960 I'm a bit more like,
00:40:51.420 I don't mind relaxing some of my wants
00:40:54.880 if the person is a decent person,
00:40:58.040 if he's got drive,
00:41:00.060 if he likes to enjoy life,
00:41:02.840 if he sees fun in being alive,
00:41:06.860 appreciates being alive.
00:41:08.200 That's,
00:41:09.260 things can change.
00:41:10.660 I'm not so black and white on things.
00:41:13.680 Like I've dated,
00:41:15.320 okay,
00:41:15.620 I was young,
00:41:16.340 but I've dated someone
00:41:17.280 that was shorter than me before.
00:41:21.700 Actually,
00:41:22.220 I only have,
00:41:22.980 I've only had two relationships
00:41:24.240 and both weren't tall.
00:41:26.860 So it's not like I'm looking for...
00:41:28.020 Did you break up with them
00:41:28.920 or did they break up with you?
00:41:30.700 They both broke up with me.
00:41:32.020 So what else?
00:41:36.080 Anything else?
00:41:36.980 But obviously,
00:41:37.480 like I said earlier,
00:41:38.760 they come back
00:41:42.360 when they realise the grass isn't greener.
00:41:46.840 But yeah.
00:41:48.220 Would you take them back
00:41:49.060 if someone,
00:41:49.680 if they came back?
00:41:50.740 Well,
00:41:50.980 I did with one particular one.
00:41:52.940 Not anymore though.
00:41:54.240 That option's not even there anyway,
00:41:56.140 but not anymore.
00:41:58.100 Can I ask why they broke up with you?
00:41:59.660 Is it you or is it them?
00:42:04.640 I would say it could be...
00:42:07.800 So the first person wanted,
00:42:09.780 like I said earlier,
00:42:10.500 wanted to have fun.
00:42:11.940 Went off,
00:42:13.020 thought he could come back
00:42:14.280 and I didn't let him come back
00:42:16.520 and that really upset him.
00:42:20.420 Second person,
00:42:21.340 he did keep coming back,
00:42:22.620 to be honest.
00:42:23.600 It's a long story.
00:42:24.840 We were dating since like I was 14.
00:42:27.080 14 to 18,
00:42:30.260 broke up,
00:42:31.560 dated the other guy
00:42:32.800 and then got back with him after
00:42:35.300 and we were dating for
00:42:36.600 about 12 years
00:42:39.500 with maybe a year gap in between that.
00:42:41.640 Wow,
00:42:41.840 you're with him for 12 years?
00:42:43.580 Yeah,
00:42:43.820 with like a,
00:42:44.840 well,
00:42:45.120 13 years with a year gap in between.
00:42:47.180 Yeah.
00:42:47.500 Wow.
00:42:48.240 Why didn't y'all get married?
00:42:50.100 That was the idea.
00:42:51.240 Yeah.
00:42:51.960 That was the idea.
00:42:52.820 It's longer than most marriages.
00:42:54.880 Yeah,
00:42:55.220 it was the idea.
00:42:55.740 We lived as,
00:42:56.800 you know,
00:42:57.180 as you would,
00:42:58.600 but you know,
00:42:59.340 things change,
00:43:00.500 people change
00:43:01.300 and I think sometimes
00:43:03.340 when someone's in an environment
00:43:05.840 where they're with a lot of younger people,
00:43:08.540 they can change what they want.
00:43:10.180 So initially,
00:43:10.880 when we first dated,
00:43:13.360 he would,
00:43:14.340 he still would hold all the doors
00:43:15.600 and everything.
00:43:16.000 He's very gentlemanly
00:43:16.920 and he's a very nice person,
00:43:19.500 but he,
00:43:20.340 he would not like it
00:43:22.460 if I attempted to pay for something.
00:43:24.460 He had to pay for things.
00:43:25.720 Like,
00:43:26.300 he learned to drive
00:43:27.260 because he didn't like me driving him around.
00:43:29.500 He was saying,
00:43:30.060 That sounds amazing.
00:43:31.020 He was like,
00:43:31.520 I don't feel manly.
00:43:33.340 Yeah.
00:43:33.720 Yeah.
00:43:34.460 But at the end,
00:43:35.580 when we broke up,
00:43:36.260 one of the reasons he gave
00:43:37.320 is because I don't pay,
00:43:39.060 take him out on dates
00:43:40.000 and pay for things.
00:43:41.180 But he's in an environment
00:43:42.260 where he hangs around
00:43:43.160 with younger people
00:43:43.940 and I think he may have
00:43:46.380 got a bit messed up along the way.
00:43:48.980 He had it right in the beginning.
00:43:50.440 You know,
00:43:50.900 he was very traditional
00:43:52.080 and I liked that about him.
00:43:53.740 He was a good person.
00:43:54.680 He treated his mum.
00:43:55.320 That's another thing.
00:43:56.280 They have to treat their mum well
00:43:57.540 and I think that that speaks volumes.
00:44:02.100 Yeah.
00:44:02.980 Times change.
00:44:03.820 People grow out of each other.
00:44:06.680 So he,
00:44:08.100 because this just doesn't make sense.
00:44:09.900 So he hung around younger people
00:44:11.260 and then he was mad
00:44:12.020 you didn't pay for things?
00:44:13.380 He's a musician.
00:44:14.500 Okay.
00:44:15.200 And I think when other people say,
00:44:17.240 oh, my girlfriend bought me this,
00:44:18.720 my girlfriend done this
00:44:19.820 and took me this place
00:44:20.920 and then it made him think,
00:44:22.800 oh, why isn't she doing that?
00:44:24.200 But he would have been angry
00:44:25.420 if I'd done that originally.
00:44:27.800 Do you think there was other ways
00:44:29.100 maybe you could have done something
00:44:30.440 that wasn't money
00:44:31.200 that he would have appreciated?
00:44:32.560 Oh, yeah, I did.
00:44:33.560 Yeah, I did.
00:44:34.200 And he just didn't take that into account?
00:44:36.700 No.
00:44:38.140 Maybe not.
00:44:39.000 Obviously not.
00:44:39.840 Yeah.
00:44:39.960 That kind of sounds like
00:44:41.140 he was doing stuff.
00:44:42.120 Not more so to have the authority,
00:44:45.360 not in a bad way,
00:44:46.620 but to have the authority be like,
00:44:48.260 yeah, I can look after you.
00:44:49.740 But kind of just dismiss the fact
00:44:51.540 that he wanted to be looked after too.
00:44:52.980 So maybe that's why he came back
00:44:53.980 and went,
00:44:54.760 cool, like,
00:44:55.340 you don't look after me.
00:44:56.580 But like,
00:44:57.080 for him,
00:44:57.560 his only,
00:44:58.500 like,
00:44:58.980 his only intention
00:44:59.820 was to look after you.
00:45:01.140 Well, I don't think,
00:45:01.760 I don't know,
00:45:02.120 based on what I'm hearing,
00:45:03.860 that's what it sounds like.
00:45:04.760 Based on what I'm hearing,
00:45:07.820 he got easily influenced
00:45:09.060 by his peers.
00:45:10.600 And that's what it was.
00:45:12.120 He spent more time
00:45:13.000 with his younger peers,
00:45:14.020 listening to them.
00:45:15.180 And sometimes it became hard.
00:45:16.440 Peer pressure can come at any age.
00:45:18.320 Yeah, I think so.
00:45:19.040 Especially as yous
00:45:19.920 that were together so young.
00:45:21.540 And he was so,
00:45:22.280 it seems like he was
00:45:23.560 mature when he was young,
00:45:25.920 and then he spent
00:45:26.580 most of his youth being mature.
00:45:28.380 And then when he had the chance
00:45:29.540 to be young again
00:45:30.700 and be a teenager,
00:45:32.240 because he'd lost
00:45:32.840 all his teenage years,
00:45:33.880 he just went for it
00:45:34.560 because he was surrounded by that.
00:45:36.240 I think if he wasn't a musician,
00:45:37.420 it would have been different.
00:45:38.400 But being a musician,
00:45:40.180 that's hard.
00:45:41.180 Yeah.
00:45:41.900 I made him be a musician as well.
00:45:44.740 Oh, right.
00:45:45.920 I was like,
00:45:46.720 do it.
00:45:47.260 Follow your,
00:45:47.740 yeah, do it.
00:45:48.460 It's fine.
00:45:48.880 I can, you know,
00:45:50.060 take care of things
00:45:51.800 for a little while.
00:45:52.660 That's such a long relationship.
00:45:54.180 It just sounds like
00:45:55.080 such a,
00:45:56.180 it's seemingly smaller
00:45:57.620 thing that,
00:45:58.780 and such a long relationship.
00:45:59.840 Oh, no, there was many,
00:46:00.660 there was many things,
00:46:01.840 there was many things
00:46:02.980 that he'd done at the end
00:46:04.040 that were not good.
00:46:05.000 But I don't really want,
00:46:05.860 he's a good person.
00:46:06.800 I've got nothing bad
00:46:07.520 to say about him,
00:46:08.240 but he behaved badly
00:46:10.000 for a little while,
00:46:11.460 for like six months
00:46:12.540 of our relationship.
00:46:14.380 He behaved very badly.
00:46:15.780 And then he's now
00:46:17.640 back to being normal
00:46:18.440 and everything,
00:46:19.120 you know, fine.
00:46:20.560 But he, yeah,
00:46:21.520 he was a different person
00:46:22.400 for a while.
00:46:22.440 I've got fingers crossed for you.
00:46:24.020 Yeah.
00:46:24.400 No, no, no, no,
00:46:25.060 absolutely not.
00:46:25.720 I'm rooting for it a little bit.
00:46:26.620 No, no.
00:46:27.620 Absolutely not.
00:46:28.700 He wasn't mature.
00:46:30.080 No, no.
00:46:31.120 How old is he now?
00:46:32.940 He's 40.
00:46:33.580 When he,
00:46:34.420 so it was,
00:46:35.140 when he was turning.
00:46:36.240 Is he with anyone?
00:46:37.360 I don't know.
00:46:37.880 He would,
00:46:38.220 I don't think he would ever tell me.
00:46:39.480 That's the thing.
00:46:40.240 I don't think he would.
00:46:41.000 You didn't creep?
00:46:42.900 No.
00:46:43.420 You didn't check his page?
00:46:45.140 No, I haven't recently.
00:46:46.260 Obviously,
00:46:46.500 when we first broke up,
00:46:48.240 I looked.
00:46:48.960 Would it make you feel?
00:46:49.640 We're still on,
00:46:50.360 we're still friends on everything.
00:46:51.540 We haven't done that.
00:46:53.560 Would it make you feel a type of way
00:46:54.640 if he told you he was talking
00:46:55.460 to someone else right now?
00:46:56.420 No, not at all.
00:46:57.300 I'm completely healed.
00:46:58.360 Like literally,
00:46:59.800 when he moved out,
00:47:01.460 I came to terms with it pretty quick.
00:47:03.360 And I am one of those people
00:47:05.440 that take things as a lesson
00:47:06.680 and I move on from it.
00:47:08.600 So I'm like,
00:47:09.480 I could see,
00:47:10.380 so he's done some really bad things
00:47:11.560 at the end,
00:47:12.040 but he's a good person
00:47:13.460 and I can see the part
00:47:14.920 I played in that.
00:47:16.000 So I can see
00:47:16.800 how my behaviour
00:47:18.040 made him behave that way.
00:47:20.840 So I think,
00:47:21.720 you know,
00:47:22.000 sometimes it can be easy
00:47:23.320 to stop doing the things
00:47:25.960 that you do for each other
00:47:26.980 and not keeping things alive,
00:47:29.760 you know.
00:47:30.500 And I'm not saying in the bedroom.
00:47:32.240 I'm saying in general,
00:47:33.640 day to day.
00:47:36.540 Yeah.
00:47:37.180 So I just think that
00:47:38.660 good people,
00:47:40.240 bad situation,
00:47:41.160 things went upside down
00:47:43.160 and that's fine.
00:47:44.480 And actually,
00:47:45.340 I think I had my best year
00:47:46.980 of my life
00:47:47.620 since we split up,
00:47:49.660 funny enough,
00:47:50.120 not because he's a bad person.
00:47:51.960 It's just because
00:47:52.440 I can be me.
00:47:54.320 I can do what I want to do.
00:47:55.300 I don't have to consider
00:47:56.440 a partner's feelings
00:47:58.040 for a little while.
00:47:59.880 I'm not the type of person
00:48:01.160 to just move
00:48:01.800 from person to person.
00:48:04.740 Yeah.
00:48:05.220 So I'm just good being me
00:48:06.200 for a little while.
00:48:07.460 I'm still kind of rooting for it.
00:48:09.000 No, no, no, no.
00:48:09.900 Don't, don't.
00:48:10.760 No.
00:48:11.540 What about you two?
00:48:13.940 What do you guys look for
00:48:14.740 in a guy?
00:48:19.060 Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
00:48:20.040 I've already answered.
00:48:20.840 I said I have everything I want.
00:48:21.960 Yeah, she said.
00:48:22.640 I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
00:48:23.480 It's okay.
00:48:25.080 I want the truth
00:48:25.840 because I seem to find myself
00:48:28.940 in the position
00:48:30.340 where I'm always seen
00:48:31.120 to be the side bit,
00:48:32.720 side bitch,
00:48:33.400 all the time.
00:48:36.680 And I think that's just
00:48:37.540 what annoys me.
00:48:38.260 Do you think you give us
00:48:40.580 side chick vibes?
00:48:41.500 Yeah, I just don't seem
00:48:42.840 to find someone
00:48:43.560 that just wants me.
00:48:44.160 But do you know
00:48:44.760 he's in a relationship
00:48:45.640 when you meet him?
00:48:46.460 No, otherwise I wouldn't go there.
00:48:48.260 Oh, okay.
00:48:48.980 That's different.
00:48:49.880 Yeah.
00:48:50.420 I just get put in a position
00:48:51.540 where I find out
00:48:52.520 like months,
00:48:54.940 in one case,
00:48:55.760 two years,
00:48:57.680 that they've been
00:48:58.940 in a relationship.
00:48:59.880 So I just want the truth
00:49:00.820 because it doesn't hurt me.
00:49:02.760 Like you could turn around
00:49:03.340 and say,
00:49:03.580 oh, this is not serious.
00:49:05.380 And I'd be like,
00:49:06.360 it is what it is.
00:49:07.760 I want to have my fun.
00:49:09.280 But if you...
00:49:09.920 Why do you think
00:49:10.400 they put you in that box?
00:49:12.240 I think because
00:49:12.720 I don't necessarily come...
00:49:16.700 I don't come across
00:49:18.120 like I want to have
00:49:19.100 something serious.
00:49:20.340 Okay.
00:49:20.780 So as much as I do,
00:49:22.760 I'm like in between
00:49:23.620 because I've had
00:49:24.480 bad experiences before,
00:49:26.140 which has made me feel like
00:49:27.380 I don't want no one
00:49:28.100 to live with me.
00:49:29.200 I don't want this.
00:49:30.740 I don't want that.
00:49:31.320 But then it comes to
00:49:32.400 I do feel lonely
00:49:33.520 and I would want
00:49:34.980 that intimacy
00:49:35.640 and that love
00:49:36.420 from the right person.
00:49:38.300 Do you think
00:49:38.940 that's in a way
00:49:39.780 making the mistakes
00:49:41.160 of the men of the future
00:49:42.360 pay for the mistakes
00:49:43.180 of your past?
00:49:45.380 It's kind of like
00:49:46.080 when a guy
00:49:47.320 is always going
00:49:48.560 through your phone
00:49:49.120 because some girl
00:49:49.800 cheated on him
00:49:50.620 in a way.
00:49:52.840 I always say this rule.
00:49:54.060 I won't go through
00:49:54.560 your phone.
00:49:55.020 Don't go through my phone.
00:49:56.400 You see something
00:49:57.060 that's going to hurt you.
00:49:57.980 Don't you think that
00:49:58.640 before you move on
00:49:59.440 to one relationship
00:49:59.980 get rid of the baggage.
00:50:02.080 Heal from one
00:50:02.620 before you go.
00:50:03.280 Don't take one relationship
00:50:04.700 into the other.
00:50:06.400 Can I say
00:50:06.860 that we've all been
00:50:08.800 saying honesty
00:50:09.520 but I feel like
00:50:10.240 personally
00:50:10.620 if you yearn for
00:50:11.820 honesty in a relationship
00:50:13.460 it kind of sucks
00:50:14.800 because if you're
00:50:15.520 going into a relationship
00:50:16.020 being like
00:50:16.360 I just want honesty
00:50:17.380 I need you to be honest
00:50:18.160 with me
00:50:18.340 I need you to be honest
00:50:19.040 with me
00:50:19.340 it's kind of like
00:50:20.380 do you need to beg for that?
00:50:22.440 But also at the end
00:50:23.100 of the day
00:50:23.560 I don't know about you guys
00:50:25.020 but personally
00:50:26.100 for someone that's
00:50:27.560 been honest with me
00:50:28.380 I have felt hurt before.
00:50:29.980 And it's kind of like
00:50:30.740 also that honesty
00:50:31.400 doesn't
00:50:31.820 I feel like
00:50:32.460 there's certain things
00:50:33.180 that you don't have to say.
00:50:35.580 That's true.
00:50:37.000 There's certain things
00:50:38.000 that you don't have to say
00:50:39.520 but if you say
00:50:40.640 it's going to cause
00:50:41.180 some type of
00:50:41.780 some type of
00:50:42.740 you know
00:50:43.380 and also
00:50:45.040 can I say
00:50:46.020 guys that are
00:50:46.840 always honest
00:50:48.040 they're normally
00:50:48.660 always honest
00:50:49.020 about the past relationships
00:50:50.020 and I feel like
00:50:51.240 if you
00:50:52.500 if you
00:50:52.860 if you've established
00:50:53.680 that you guys
00:50:54.220 are going to be
00:50:54.600 100% about
00:50:55.640 everything you've done
00:50:56.540 you're going to feel
00:50:57.640 some type of way
00:50:58.280 regardless of whether
00:50:59.020 that involved you or not.
00:51:00.320 So they've been doing stuff
00:51:01.640 before they even knew you
00:51:02.780 but you'd feel the type of way
00:51:04.000 because they're with you right now.
00:51:05.140 It's kind of like
00:51:05.640 certain stuff
00:51:06.080 you don't have to say
00:51:06.800 and it's not me
00:51:07.720 being secretive
00:51:08.380 if there's certain stuff
00:51:09.060 that we can talk about
00:51:09.620 we can talk about
00:51:10.240 that's going to progress
00:51:10.760 our relationship
00:51:11.260 but if it's about
00:51:12.380 oh like
00:51:13.100 yeah I used to do
00:51:13.760 like this with her
00:51:14.860 and like
00:51:15.620 yeah like this and that
00:51:16.900 it's kind of like
00:51:17.720 I think you're right
00:51:18.660 I don't think women
00:51:19.360 want honesty
00:51:20.060 by and large
00:51:20.680 because then they
00:51:21.500 wouldn't keep dating liars.
00:51:22.520 Yeah you'd sit here
00:51:23.740 and be like
00:51:24.180 yeah I want you to be
00:51:25.160 100% honest with me
00:51:26.260 but if you're honest with me
00:51:27.020 I'm going to start crying.
00:51:28.000 It's the same thing with cheaters.
00:51:28.900 I would rather just cry
00:51:30.680 and be mad
00:51:31.580 and then just get over it.
00:51:33.500 My first reaction
00:51:34.120 I always say
00:51:34.520 tell me the honest truth
00:51:35.860 let the first reaction
00:51:37.020 go over their head
00:51:37.780 because that's it soaking in.
00:51:38.980 But does the honesty
00:51:39.600 progress your relationship
00:51:40.600 is it positive
00:51:41.460 to your relationship though
00:51:42.400 because
00:51:42.720 Yes because
00:51:43.040 they know that
00:51:43.880 there's no point
00:51:44.420 in lying to me
00:51:45.200 I'm not the one
00:51:46.240 you want to lie to.
00:51:47.680 Why did you say honesty
00:51:48.820 when I asked
00:51:49.720 when I asked you
00:51:50.780 what you were looking for?
00:51:52.200 Because to me
00:51:52.600 that implies that
00:51:53.200 maybe you haven't
00:51:53.700 always gotten that.
00:51:54.820 No I haven't.
00:51:56.740 The past relationships.
00:51:59.220 Well like
00:51:59.500 you're a pretty girl
00:52:00.660 you have a million options
00:52:01.560 there's many men
00:52:02.200 that will be honest with you
00:52:03.260 but it's like
00:52:03.780 we pick the liar
00:52:04.440 No I don't know
00:52:05.860 I just feel like
00:52:06.720 they as you said
00:52:07.700 make my funny flop
00:52:08.520 so
00:52:09.040 It's like the liars
00:52:10.880 the lies
00:52:11.440 make you want them
00:52:13.140 but then it's
00:52:13.920 You're attracted to the lies
00:52:15.100 Good for you
00:52:15.820 Good for you
00:52:18.080 But I do want the truth
00:52:20.260 it'd be nice
00:52:21.080 So then what incentive
00:52:22.040 do men have to be honest
00:52:23.180 with us
00:52:23.640 if the liars get laid?
00:52:25.500 I just prefer
00:52:26.300 like if you just
00:52:27.040 turn around
00:52:27.380 and said
00:52:27.620 yeah you're seen
00:52:28.180 talking to like
00:52:29.480 two three other girls
00:52:30.420 and I'm just an option
00:52:31.620 at the moment
00:52:32.060 Yeah but if they
00:52:32.520 told you that
00:52:33.120 then you wouldn't
00:52:34.200 sleep with them
00:52:34.820 That kind of links
00:52:35.980 back to what I said earlier
00:52:37.160 A lot of time
00:52:38.660 and this has been mentioned
00:52:39.940 on Fresh and Fit
00:52:40.700 another podcast
00:52:41.540 women want honesty
00:52:43.360 honesty
00:52:43.700 but
00:52:44.140 as the saying goes
00:52:45.980 they can't really
00:52:46.480 handle the truth
00:52:47.160 because when you are honest
00:52:48.220 they immediately leave
00:52:51.240 which you know
00:52:51.960 I understand
00:52:52.560 but what incentive
00:52:54.140 is there for men
00:52:54.880 to be honest
00:52:55.620 because they'll lose
00:52:56.980 the resources
00:52:57.540 they put into you
00:52:58.420 you know
00:52:58.800 whether it's
00:52:59.220 taking you on dates
00:53:00.020 life advice
00:53:00.760 everything
00:53:01.160 because men help us
00:53:01.860 with a lot of things
00:53:02.480 when we're with them
00:53:03.080 but then you just leave
00:53:05.240 because they're with
00:53:06.020 other people
00:53:06.500 which is most likely
00:53:07.780 the thing that they're
00:53:08.660 not being honest about
00:53:09.620 so as you said
00:53:11.260 what incentive
00:53:11.740 do they have to be honest
00:53:12.580 when they could lose
00:53:13.200 the whole thing
00:53:13.940 they've put work into
00:53:14.660 you must be crazy
00:53:16.020 do not tell me something
00:53:16.820 that you know
00:53:17.300 I'm going to be like
00:53:18.040 yeah
00:53:18.320 I'm going to leave you for
00:53:19.280 it's kind of like
00:53:20.740 what
00:53:21.180 people are selfish
00:53:22.360 I mean do you
00:53:23.300 do you go into relationships
00:53:24.400 telling men your body count
00:53:25.620 well it depends
00:53:27.640 if they're asked
00:53:28.060 like if we're going to be
00:53:28.440 100%
00:53:29.000 has anyone ever asked
00:53:29.480 I've never been asked
00:53:30.320 because
00:53:30.660 I don't know
00:53:31.700 because I feel like
00:53:32.840 any guy that you talk to
00:53:34.120 these days
00:53:34.380 will ask you your body count
00:53:35.600 really
00:53:36.220 not really
00:53:36.940 not anymore
00:53:37.520 maybe like
00:53:38.140 maybe young people
00:53:39.680 not anymore
00:53:40.100 she's right
00:53:43.500 it's a young
00:53:44.020 it's like
00:53:44.640 the younger
00:53:45.060 the younger
00:53:46.020 the guy
00:53:46.440 maybe it's because
00:53:47.660 yeah
00:53:48.080 but I'm just saying
00:53:48.940 if we're going to be
00:53:49.440 100% honest
00:53:50.780 yeah
00:53:51.520 no because
00:53:52.340 I feel like
00:53:53.660 especially right now
00:53:55.160 like a lot of girls
00:53:55.680 are with guys
00:53:56.260 where they know
00:53:56.680 if they said
00:53:57.120 their body count
00:53:57.700 it would end
00:53:58.060 their relationship
00:53:58.740 so like
00:54:00.900 there's in a way
00:54:01.760 we're not always
00:54:02.320 honest with them
00:54:03.000 either
00:54:03.360 because I was going
00:54:04.320 to say
00:54:04.620 like if you're going
00:54:05.140 into a relationship
00:54:05.700 nowadays
00:54:06.220 especially like
00:54:06.820 my friends
00:54:07.460 everybody that I'm
00:54:08.500 surrounded by right now
00:54:09.440 as a 19 year old
00:54:10.520 they will 100%
00:54:12.040 ask you your body count
00:54:13.420 it's one of the first
00:54:14.420 things that comes up
00:54:14.940 what's your name
00:54:15.520 what school do you go
00:54:16.440 what's your favourite colour
00:54:17.020 what's your body count
00:54:17.640 it's definitely the age thing
00:54:19.140 maybe it's the age thing
00:54:20.520 but in this
00:54:21.160 like in this day and age
00:54:22.720 right now
00:54:23.280 that I'm in right now
00:54:24.120 they will ask you
00:54:25.080 with no shame
00:54:25.740 but will you answer
00:54:26.880 that's the question
00:54:27.760 will you answer
00:54:28.560 100%
00:54:29.400 I'll be straight up with you
00:54:30.420 I'll say this many
00:54:31.320 or this many
00:54:32.200 I've never had anybody
00:54:34.140 ask me that
00:54:34.740 older men just don't see
00:54:36.580 the point in asking
00:54:37.420 they just feel like
00:54:38.860 you're going to lie
00:54:39.380 anyway
00:54:39.880 you're right
00:54:40.460 but the last time
00:54:41.920 I ever got asked
00:54:42.720 that question
00:54:43.160 I think I was 16 years old
00:54:44.940 that's a good 9 years ago
00:54:46.380 really
00:54:46.860 wow
00:54:47.560 I did get asked once
00:54:50.940 I lied
00:54:51.860 I did get asked once
00:54:53.020 it happens all the time
00:54:53.740 right now
00:54:54.060 and I did give my honest answer
00:54:55.580 I think with men as well
00:54:56.940 obviously you know
00:54:58.900 you can't look at a woman
00:55:00.420 and be like
00:55:01.080 oh yeah her body count is this
00:55:02.440 but you can get an inkling
00:55:03.820 of whether it's higher
00:55:04.620 or lower
00:55:05.020 and sometimes
00:55:05.640 that is enough
00:55:06.340 to suffice them
00:55:07.640 as to whether
00:55:08.060 they get in a relationship
00:55:09.200 or just have sex with you
00:55:10.600 or whatever it may be
00:55:11.720 I think
00:55:12.140 how you portray yourself
00:55:13.840 is sometimes
00:55:14.620 enough for them to decide
00:55:16.020 would it put you off
00:55:17.380 if their body count
00:55:18.340 was like higher than yours
00:55:19.500 no
00:55:20.460 I'd prefer that
00:55:21.340 if my partner's body count
00:55:22.980 was higher than mine
00:55:23.760 no of course not
00:55:25.600 you know
00:55:26.340 I think men value
00:55:27.560 inexperience
00:55:28.660 whereas women
00:55:29.620 value experience
00:55:30.480 so my partner's body count
00:55:31.900 is of course higher than mine
00:55:32.980 and if it wasn't
00:55:34.100 I'd be like
00:55:34.600 where the hell am I with you
00:55:35.640 if no one else wants you
00:55:36.460 but didn't the young lady
00:55:37.460 on the end say
00:55:38.100 she wanted experience
00:55:38.840 I don't think that
00:55:40.160 I don't agree with that
00:55:40.900 but I just expect
00:55:42.120 that men
00:55:42.980 you don't agree with what
00:55:43.880 that you think
00:55:45.960 it's because of the experience
00:55:47.140 I don't think
00:55:48.020 you don't think women
00:55:48.600 value experience
00:55:49.600 no no I do think
00:55:50.340 they value experience
00:55:51.140 but I don't think
00:55:51.800 I'd be saying
00:55:52.540 oh your body count
00:55:54.620 is less than mine
00:55:55.400 so I don't like that
00:55:56.240 because other women
00:55:56.780 don't like you
00:55:57.620 can I
00:55:58.400 I mean I don't think
00:55:59.060 it's a conscious thing
00:56:00.140 but I mean
00:56:00.960 yeah I don't
00:56:01.800 I don't sit there
00:56:02.400 and think to myself
00:56:02.980 well these women
00:56:03.880 you've got a lower body count
00:56:06.220 therefore these women
00:56:07.100 didn't like you
00:56:07.840 so why am I
00:56:08.860 it's just you know
00:56:09.940 a silent tick in your head
00:56:11.180 where it's
00:56:11.540 you know it's like
00:56:12.440 evolution
00:56:12.860 it's like when a guy's
00:56:15.120 I mean
00:56:15.620 guys will tell me
00:56:16.940 getting verified
00:56:17.820 is the first way
00:56:18.660 to get women
00:56:20.020 yeah
00:56:20.540 because it's a sign
00:56:21.160 of pre-selection
00:56:21.960 that's so superficial
00:56:23.660 isn't it
00:56:24.600 I mean
00:56:25.500 we can't really change it
00:56:26.940 yeah it's like
00:56:27.600 it's like telling the world
00:56:28.520 not to be the world
00:56:29.320 and all in all history
00:56:30.280 like women have
00:56:31.480 gone for men
00:56:32.240 that other women
00:56:32.820 have selected
00:56:33.420 so it's like
00:56:34.040 you could say
00:56:34.660 it's superficial
00:56:35.300 but that's
00:56:35.900 that's always
00:56:36.360 what's happened
00:56:36.980 yeah like look at
00:56:37.820 you know
00:56:38.520 Genghis Khan
00:56:39.500 or the world's conquerors
00:56:40.600 if women didn't like
00:56:41.440 men that weren't
00:56:42.700 if women did not like
00:56:43.900 men that were experienced
00:56:45.080 why do these men
00:56:46.100 that she have harems
00:56:46.800 of women
00:56:47.160 and would just
00:56:47.800 naturally gravitate
00:56:48.360 to him
00:56:49.040 17 women reproduced
00:56:49.960 for one man
00:56:50.560 every one man
00:56:51.240 8,000 years ago
00:56:52.060 you