JustPearlyThings - July 28, 2023


Modern Women Cherish INSTAGRAM Than Relationship


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23 minutes

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4,395

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569

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Misogyny

25

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9

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In this episode, we talk about cheating, social media, cheating in relationships and why we should or shouldn t cheat in the first place. We are joined by Andrea, who is a dentist and is in the middle of a divorce.

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00:00:00.000 Would you delete your Instagram for the right guy?
00:00:02.500 Me?
00:00:03.500 Yeah.
00:00:04.500 Delete my Instagram.
00:00:05.500 I mean, if a guy wanted me to delete my Instagram, I'd be like, whoa.
00:00:09.500 Why?
00:00:10.500 Why do you want to do that?
00:00:11.500 My Instagram's pretty basic.
00:00:12.500 No, no.
00:00:13.500 He just says I don't date women with Instagrams.
00:00:15.500 Instagram's the number one used dating app.
00:00:17.500 Is it?
00:00:18.500 I've heard that.
00:00:19.500 Yeah.
00:00:20.500 I have heard that.
00:00:21.500 He says, I want a wife, no dating app.
00:00:24.500 If he wants a wife and he's ready to like, and we know that this is legit, then why not? 0.94
00:00:30.500 But at the same time, he should trust and know me by that time that I'm not, that is not what about.
00:00:35.500 I'd just rather not take the risk.
00:00:37.500 I'd just rather just like, you know, maybe I don't want to date a guy that goes to clubs.
00:00:42.000 Yeah.
00:00:43.000 And you know, right?
00:00:44.500 So that's a fair ask.
00:00:46.000 Yeah.
00:00:46.500 Would you just give it up because he's the right guy?
00:00:48.500 I mean, if he's definitely the right guy.
00:00:50.500 Yeah, I don't care.
00:00:51.500 It's just a social media app.
00:00:52.500 Who cares?
00:00:53.500 Okay.
00:00:54.500 Okay.
00:00:55.500 What about you?
00:00:56.500 No.
00:00:57.500 No.
00:00:58.500 Why not?
00:00:59.500 Also, who?
00:01:00.500 Hello.
00:01:01.500 Who are you?
00:01:02.500 I'm Andrea.
00:01:03.500 I'm a dentist.
00:01:04.500 Okay.
00:01:05.500 And I was cheated.
00:01:07.500 I'm in the middle of a divorce because I was cheated by my husband.
00:01:11.500 Okay.
00:01:12.500 And I don't agree with what he was saying that women, when they want to cheat, they will plan 1.00
00:01:18.500 this in advance.
00:01:19.500 No.
00:01:20.500 No.
00:01:21.500 I think even women or men, if they want to cheat, they will do it no matter the reason.
00:01:25.500 I didn't say that.
00:01:26.500 No.
00:01:27.500 I said it's building up.
00:01:28.500 Building up.
00:01:29.500 Planning in advance is the same.
00:01:30.500 I don't think, I don't think the reason is important.
00:01:33.500 I think we all cheat the same.
00:01:35.500 Okay.
00:01:36.500 And I would not delete something for someone at the beginning because this is something
00:01:40.500 like ownership.
00:01:42.500 You want me to do what you want, but I don't have any guarantee that you're going to be
00:01:49.500 the one where you deserve that.
00:01:51.500 Do you think relationships require sacrifice?
00:01:54.500 Yes.
00:01:55.500 Okay.
00:01:56.500 So why wouldn't you sacrifice Instagram?
00:01:58.500 Because I don't think our relationship is based on that.
00:02:03.500 Okay.
00:02:04.500 What if you just said this is a boundary for me?
00:02:06.500 I know women, we love our boundaries. 1.00
00:02:08.500 I think it's manipulating.
00:02:10.500 You think it's manipulative to ask you to delete Instagram?
00:02:13.500 Yeah.
00:02:14.500 At the beginning of the relationship, yeah.
00:02:16.500 Okay.
00:02:17.500 Why?
00:02:18.500 Because I don't think we trust each other so much at the beginning.
00:02:20.500 Is it manipulative if I say I don't date guys that go to clubs?
00:02:25.500 In a way, yeah, because you don't date that type of men.
00:02:30.500 Okay.
00:02:31.500 What about you?
00:02:32.500 Would you delete your Instagram?
00:02:33.500 No, I would not delete my Instagram.
00:02:35.500 Okay.
00:02:36.500 Not even for the right guy?
00:02:37.500 No.
00:02:38.500 He's rich.
00:02:39.500 Handsome.
00:02:40.500 Got a six pack abs.
00:02:42.500 He says, the only one thing I need, I just need the Instagram off the phone.
00:02:47.500 No, because...
00:02:48.500 I'll move you into my mansion.
00:02:50.500 I'll...
00:02:51.500 Really?
00:02:52.500 No, because I'm self-made.
00:02:54.500 I run my business through my Instagram and that would be giving away something that's dear
00:02:59.500 to me and important and where I spend a lot of my time as well with work.
00:03:04.500 So...
00:03:05.500 Exactly.
00:03:06.500 I think it's quite coercive and...
00:03:08.500 What does coercive mean?
00:03:10.500 Coercive is where someone goes, if I give you this, then...
00:03:12.500 Or if you do this for me, then I'll give you that.
00:03:14.500 It's almost...
00:03:15.500 Wait.
00:03:16.500 So it's...
00:03:17.500 Say that again. 0.71
00:03:18.500 It's trying...
00:03:19.500 If I give you this...
00:03:20.500 So if I give you something, then...
00:03:22.500 Yeah.
00:03:23.500 Then you get something else as a reward, perhaps.
00:03:25.500 Coercion is like trying to manipulate or to maneuver people into a shape that you want
00:03:30.500 them to be in.
00:03:32.500 So I don't agree with that.
00:03:33.500 So it's influencing somebody?
00:03:35.500 Yeah.
00:03:36.500 But it can be in quite a strong way.
00:03:39.500 Like coercion is actually against the law in relationships.
00:03:43.500 Yeah.
00:03:44.500 It can be...
00:03:45.500 Because the feminists ruin the laws. 1.00
00:03:47.500 So they just make up these words.
00:03:48.500 I don't make the law, but coercion is a very old word.
00:03:52.500 And it's probably based on that.
00:03:53.500 But I think...
00:03:54.500 Go ahead.
00:03:55.500 But what you just defined is not coercion.
00:03:58.500 What you defined is called trade.
00:03:59.500 If I give you this, you give me this.
00:04:01.500 That's literally called trade, not coercion.
00:04:04.500 I think...
00:04:05.500 Let's get the dictionary out and look at coercion. 1.00
00:04:07.500 I'm Googling.
00:04:08.500 I'm telling you what you said.
00:04:09.500 You said, if I give you this, you give me this.
00:04:12.500 There's many ways of naming something that is the same action.
00:04:16.500 No.
00:04:17.500 Normally it is...
00:04:19.500 Words have meaning.
00:04:20.500 This is a trend.
00:04:21.500 This is just a trend I see with women. 1.00
00:04:23.500 It's like we change the definitions of things and we like change words.
00:04:26.500 They don't mean anything.
00:04:27.500 Can I say what it means?
00:04:28.500 I Googled it.
00:04:29.500 It's the threat of force, right?
00:04:31.500 Exactly.
00:04:32.500 The threat of violence.
00:04:33.500 Using force.
00:04:34.500 Yeah.
00:04:35.500 So that's the one part missed in your definition.
00:04:38.500 The threat of violence or force.
00:04:40.500 Yeah.
00:04:41.500 It's forcing someone to do something.
00:04:42.500 How is it?
00:04:43.500 It's not.
00:04:44.500 You choose to.
00:04:45.500 But then if you don't...
00:04:46.500 If I give you this, you give me this.
00:04:47.500 You didn't say, if I give you this, you have to give me this by force.
00:04:49.500 But if they don't want to have a relationship with you because you will not give up your Instagram, then...
00:04:53.500 So...
00:04:54.500 Yeah, so it's a free word.
00:04:55.500 You don't have to have a relationship.
00:04:56.500 You can move on.
00:04:57.500 Well then, that's it.
00:04:58.500 Moving on.
00:04:59.500 Right.
00:05:00.500 But his whole point is you're using a very strong word.
00:05:03.500 Like, that's a crime.
00:05:05.500 It's just like when women... 1.00
00:05:06.500 It's just like...
00:05:07.500 I'm saying that in a relationship situation, it has been used as being defined as a crime.
00:05:12.500 But for me, I don't receive coercion well like that.
00:05:16.500 You know, someone trying to trade off something for something else.
00:05:19.500 How much do you make off of Instagram a month?
00:05:21.500 I don't think I make money off Instagram a month.
00:05:24.500 So you don't make money off of Instagram?
00:05:26.500 No, no.
00:05:27.500 It's not monetized for me, no.
00:05:28.500 Oh, so you wouldn't even give it up even though you don't make money off of it?
00:05:32.500 Because you said a business.
00:05:33.500 I just assumed you worked.
00:05:34.500 No, but I put my gallery on there.
00:05:35.500 I'm a photographer.
00:05:36.500 So I put my work on there and it's my personal gallery.
00:05:39.500 So it's my way of putting my work out into the world.
00:05:42.500 It doesn't matter whether it's...
00:05:43.500 What if he got you an art studio and said you can hang them up here?
00:05:47.500 No, I don't think so.
00:05:50.500 What's your price?
00:05:52.500 I just like my own thing.
00:05:54.500 I just like my own thing.
00:05:55.500 I think the way you phrased it is very easy for them to wiggle out of the answer.
00:05:59.500 Okay, so let's make it more interesting.
00:06:01.500 You said you use your Instagram for work.
00:06:03.500 Do you post personal pictures or stuff on the Instagram?
00:06:07.500 Recently, yes.
00:06:08.500 So you definitely don't use it only for work?
00:06:10.500 No, my work was an exhibition, so I put myself...
00:06:12.500 Okay, but the point is, if it's a work thing, that's different.
00:06:15.500 We're trying to say like a personal Instagram.
00:06:18.500 We're not talking about something you use for work or you use to make money.
00:06:21.500 We're saying like the Instagram that you use to post your selfies when you turn your back,
00:06:25.500 the mirror shots, the bikini stuff.
00:06:27.500 That's the Instagram we're talking about.
00:06:28.500 You won't find me in the bikini on Instagram.
00:06:30.500 No, we're just saying it's a hypothetical.
00:06:32.500 It's a hypothetical.
00:06:33.500 Well, do you have selfies on your Instagram?
00:06:37.500 Yes or no?
00:06:38.500 I did one today.
00:06:39.500 Okay, so you do have personal things on your...
00:06:41.500 Yeah.
00:06:42.500 It's like you're guys weeding out of this answer.
00:06:44.500 It's like...
00:06:45.500 Regardless, the answer is no.
00:06:47.500 I would not delete something if someone asked me to just because there was a relationship being dangled.
00:06:52.500 Okay.
00:06:53.500 What would you...
00:06:54.500 What would you give out for the right man?
00:06:58.500 Nothing.
00:07:03.500 Give me five.
00:07:05.500 Okay.
00:07:06.500 I'm gonna go to you.
00:07:07.500 Some more of a girl question.
00:07:08.500 Go ahead.
00:07:09.500 If we go through like personal like Instagram,
00:07:11.500 because I use mine for work and I don't post personal stuff.
00:07:13.500 I don't post my family, friends and things like this.
00:07:15.500 And if it was just personal, I will give it away because I think nowadays it's hard to get a relationship,
00:07:21.500 but it's even harder to protect and maintain it.
00:07:24.500 Okay.
00:07:25.500 And if it gets to the point, like nowadays with the mindset I have,
00:07:27.500 I'll give like my password or something like this to give the person like the trust,
00:07:31.500 you know, because nowadays I think people are not willing,
00:07:34.500 they want the relationship, but they're not willing to do sacrifices to maintain it.
00:07:39.500 Right.
00:07:40.500 So would you delete it?
00:07:41.500 He says, I'll pay you what you're getting paid now.
00:07:44.500 If he's the guy I intend to marry and have kids with, I would do that.
00:07:49.500 You'd get rid of it.
00:07:50.500 I would do that because nowadays, like for me, like family and protect family
00:07:54.500 and my relationship is a priority.
00:07:56.500 And if he can cover like the cause and things like this, okay,
00:07:59.500 you don't need to work or things like this.
00:08:01.500 I would do that in order to protect.
00:08:02.500 Would you be willing to go down in lifestyle for the right guy?
00:08:07.500 Not down because I will find a way to put him up.
00:08:11.500 I think work as a woman is also like, what do you mean?
00:08:14.500 You got kids, so you got more expenses.
00:08:16.500 So it goes down.
00:08:20.500 No, but you're saying like before or with the guy.
00:08:24.500 So you go down in lifestyle for the right guy.
00:08:27.500 After marriage.
00:08:28.500 Yes.
00:08:29.500 It can happen, of course.
00:08:31.500 Okay, so you would.
00:08:32.500 Yeah.
00:08:33.500 Okay, cool, cool.
00:08:34.500 What about you?
00:08:35.500 Would you delete your Instagram for the right guy?
00:08:37.500 I'm not even on social media like that.
00:08:39.500 I don't even have full time.
00:08:41.500 I don't even have full time Instagram.
00:08:43.500 Would you stop cheating for the right guy?
00:08:49.500 All right.
00:08:50.500 No, but this is, but this is exactly what I was saying.
00:08:53.500 Okay.
00:08:54.500 It's just because me, I say like, I do say, yes, I did cheat.
00:08:57.500 It doesn't make me, it doesn't make me the wrong person.
00:09:00.500 Like all of these people that they don't say, they don't because I'm not judging.
00:09:05.500 I'm just asking the question.
00:09:07.500 Would you stop cheating for the right?
00:09:09.500 You meet Mr. Wonderful.
00:09:11.500 He's tall.
00:09:12.500 Whatever you look for, you're tight.
00:09:14.500 Okay, the reason I'm not in a relationship, it's just because there is no one deserving
00:09:19.500 me not to cheat on.
00:09:21.500 Doesn't make sense?
00:09:23.500 Okay, so every guy you meet deserves, so if you dated any of these three guys here,
00:09:29.500 four guys, five guys in this room, they all should be cheated on.
00:09:33.500 I really believe that relationship is very simple.
00:09:36.500 You say what you want, you like it.
00:09:38.500 Like, it just, you talk, you just need to talk.
00:09:41.500 You just need to be honest with each other.
00:09:42.500 Okay.
00:09:43.500 If there is something you don't like, you just move on.
00:09:45.500 If, like I said, like I said.
00:09:47.500 So I'm asking you if you liked everything about the guy.
00:09:50.500 Yes, I wouldn't cheat.
00:09:51.500 Okay, thank you.
00:09:52.500 I wouldn't cheat.
00:09:53.500 Would you delete your Instagram?
00:09:55.500 I don't even have Instagram part-time, like full-time.
00:09:57.500 How do you get recruited on here?
00:10:00.500 Don't they recruit people through Instagram?
00:10:03.500 Through a friend, a friend, you know.
00:10:05.500 Would you delete your Snapchat?
00:10:07.500 My Snapchat is new, I just delete my Snapchat all the time.
00:10:11.500 I'll even change when I'm like, there is no way to find me.
00:10:14.500 Just for him.
00:10:15.500 Yeah, for him.
00:10:16.500 Because I know you have Snapchat, so would you delete it?
00:10:18.500 Yeah, but it's new anyway.
00:10:20.500 Yes, I will do.
00:10:21.500 Good.
00:10:22.500 And I will stop cheating if it's the right one.
00:10:25.500 Wow.
00:10:26.500 Yay.
00:10:29.500 You know, it's funny.
00:10:30.500 What if a guy said this?
00:10:31.500 I don't think it would be the same reaction.
00:10:33.500 No, and it's going to be like, it's going to be, oh, it's fine.
00:10:35.500 You know, oh, he just cheats.
00:10:36.500 It's okay.
00:10:37.500 But just because I have the post to say, oh, yeah, she's a cheater. 1.00
00:10:41.500 She's so much.
00:10:42.500 I'm saying, I don't think like women would clap and laugh as much if it was a guy saying that.
00:10:47.500 I don't think it would be the same.
00:10:49.500 I think you get more leeway because you're a chick. 1.00
00:10:52.500 Hmm.
00:10:53.500 Okay.
00:10:54.500 What about you?
00:10:55.500 Would you delete Instagram?
00:10:56.500 I don't know.
00:10:57.500 It depends.
00:10:58.500 Like in what stage you are.
00:10:59.500 If a guy, if I start to date a guy and he's like, oh, I want to continue to, you want to
00:11:03.500 get serious, but I don't want you to be on Instagram.
00:11:04.500 I'll be like, yeah, but when you met me, you would see what I do of like, and if I put
00:11:09.500 What if when you met him, he was sleeping with other chicks, but you want him to stop sleeping
00:11:13.500 with other chicks.
00:11:14.500 I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be going with him.
00:11:18.500 How do relationships start nowadays?
00:11:20.500 Oh, what do you mean?
00:11:21.500 Say it again?
00:11:22.500 How do relationships start nowadays?
00:11:24.500 In a relation?
00:11:25.500 Is it typically you start with the relationship or a situationship first?
00:11:29.500 All right.
00:11:30.500 A situationship.
00:11:31.500 Yeah.
00:11:32.500 So, so what does that mean?
00:11:33.500 He's probably sleeping with other chicks. 1.00
00:11:34.500 Yeah.
00:11:35.500 But I think that's a very different thing.
00:11:36.500 If you're sleeping with other chicks or you have Instagram, that's two completely different
00:11:38.500 things.
00:11:39.500 It's very similar because women and Instagram is an open profile for any man to message
00:11:45.500 you.
00:11:46.500 How have women survived historically? 1.00
00:11:48.500 They got the attention of high value men or the best guy they could get.
00:11:51.500 Yeah.
00:11:52.500 I gotta, I gotta stop you there.
00:11:53.500 Wait, wait, wait.
00:11:54.500 How have men reproduced historically by screwing a bunch of chicks? 0.62
00:11:57.500 Women had to get the attention from the best guy they can't could. 1.00
00:12:00.500 Men had to screw as many chicks and impregnate them and protect them. 1.00
00:12:04.500 Okay.
00:12:05.500 That's why, that's why I think it's similar because it's, but you're, you're fulfilling
00:12:09.500 both of your mating strategies when it comes to like a, your biological level.
00:12:12.500 Okay.
00:12:13.500 Yeah.
00:12:14.500 Yeah.
00:12:15.500 So, so that's why since Instagram's the number one dating app and if, if he wanted Drake,
00:12:20.500 Kanye, any of them could message you, I'm not saying they will, but I'm saying they
00:12:24.500 would, right?
00:12:25.500 That's, that's why I'm saying it's, it's basically an invitation for any guy to message you at
00:12:29.500 any point during your relationship.
00:12:31.500 Good.
00:12:32.500 But like, for example, I think it depends as well.
00:12:33.500 My, my, my Instagram account is private.
00:12:35.500 Like I don't accept people.
00:12:36.500 If I don't know you, a lot of people I don't know, I won't accept you on it.
00:12:39.500 That also has to do with my job whatsoever, blah, blah, blah.
00:12:42.500 Do you have your, do you have your face on it?
00:12:44.500 Oh yeah, absolutely.
00:12:45.500 Okay.
00:12:46.500 So, but the people that follow you, they could still message you, right?
00:12:49.500 They could.
00:12:50.500 Yeah.
00:12:51.500 Okay.
00:12:52.500 That's what I'm saying.
00:12:53.500 Yeah.
00:12:54.500 I think it's similar.
00:12:55.500 That's, that's why I think it's similar because I think that sex, um, sex is to men, like attention
00:13:09.500 is to women. 0.91
00:13:10.500 But that is of course your opinion.
00:13:12.500 That's true.
00:13:13.500 That's true.
00:13:14.500 That's true.
00:13:15.500 But my point though, is that that's how we survived.
00:13:20.500 We could not survive unless we got the attention of the best guy we could, that could protect
00:13:25.500 us.
00:13:26.500 Men could not pass on their genes without screwing a bunch of chicks. 1.00
00:13:30.500 So my, you, you said he did that, like that you were doing that when you met him.
00:13:36.500 And I'm, and my point is that he was sleeping with other people when he met you.
00:13:39.500 Yeah.
00:13:40.500 So that he, should he not stop?
00:13:41.500 Because that's how you found him.
00:13:43.500 Careful.
00:13:44.500 Careful.
00:13:45.500 Yeah.
00:13:46.500 No, I know.
00:13:47.500 I'm just, I'm just thinking.
00:13:48.500 I'm just like, I'm saying Pearl, Pearl, you're using too much logic here.
00:13:53.500 No, I'm just still thinking like, I don't know.
00:13:58.500 I don't know.
00:13:59.500 I'm just still seeing it very differently.
00:14:00.500 But that's exactly what I said.
00:14:01.500 This is exactly what I said.
00:14:02.500 When you go and decide to have a relationship, you just say, okay, you're willing to do this.
00:14:07.500 You're willing to do that.
00:14:08.500 You don't need to push.
00:14:10.500 That's why cheating comes.
00:14:11.500 That's why toxic comes. 0.65
00:14:13.500 You just need to.
00:14:14.500 My point is he's asking you, this is the right guy.
00:14:17.500 This is Mr. Wonderful.
00:14:19.500 And he says, I just need the Instagram to go.
00:14:23.500 I just want to know why.
00:14:24.500 If you have a valid reason, if you have a proper valid reason why you want me to get off it.
00:14:28.500 He doesn't have a reason that's valid to you.
00:14:30.500 I would need to have a reason.
00:14:31.500 He just said, lady, this is my program.
00:14:34.500 I like you.
00:14:35.500 I just need the Instagram to go.
00:14:37.500 Please don't argue with me.
00:14:38.500 And if you want the relationship, you just do it.
00:14:40.500 I will argue.
00:14:41.500 If you actually want it.
00:14:42.500 And Pearl said, he has the reason, but it's not valid to you.
00:14:46.500 It's.
00:14:47.500 No, she just said he doesn't have a reason.
00:14:48.500 He has a reason not valid to you.
00:14:49.500 I said it's not valid to you.
00:14:52.500 I think we're putting too much power on Instagram, no?
00:14:55.500 Yeah.
00:14:57.500 I don't know.
00:14:58.500 I don't know.
00:14:59.500 I would have to be in a situation.
00:15:00.500 Like I think about a lot of things when you say like a would you, would you.
00:15:03.500 I don't know if you can always say I would or I would not.
00:15:06.500 If you're not actually in that situation itself.
00:15:08.500 I think that's a no.
00:15:10.500 Thank you.
00:15:12.500 Personally.
00:15:13.500 Is the guy allowed to keep their Instagram?
00:15:15.500 Oh, but if you want, if he doesn't want you to have Instagram, I wouldn't.
00:15:18.500 I reckon he doesn't have Instagram himself.
00:15:20.500 He's allowed to keep it.
00:15:23.500 No, you know what?
00:15:24.500 No, fuck that.
00:15:25.500 You know what?
00:15:26.500 I'll tell you something.
00:15:27.500 I'd like to change my answer.
00:15:29.500 If you ask a guy, will you delete the Instagram for me?
00:15:34.500 And he does that.
00:15:36.500 Automatically, he lost your respect.
00:15:38.500 Fucked.
00:15:40.500 Preach.
00:15:41.500 I will not.
00:15:42.500 But he has the reality.
00:15:43.500 He has the reality.
00:15:44.500 Or he has another Instagram that you don't know about.
00:15:46.500 No, no, no.
00:15:47.500 You don't understand.
00:15:48.500 If he complied to everything a woman says, like something is like is wrong. 0.99
00:15:53.500 He's not like the leader.
00:15:54.500 He's not.
00:15:55.500 And you're not going to like him as well.
00:15:56.500 If he's just doing everything he does.
00:15:58.500 You're going to get bored.
00:15:59.500 At a certain point.
00:16:00.500 Definitely.
00:16:01.500 He might have bended to your rules for that curve.
00:16:05.500 But eventually it's not going to work out.
00:16:09.500 And let me tell you something.
00:16:11.500 My last relationship and the most healthy I had to a point.
00:16:16.500 So I asked her to delete her Instagram.
00:16:19.500 I had Instagram back then.
00:16:20.500 Why did you ask her to delete her Instagram? 0.99
00:16:22.500 Because I found it useless for her.
00:16:24.500 Why?
00:16:25.500 Why?
00:16:26.500 She was not making money out of this.
00:16:27.500 But do you need to have Instagram to make money out of it?
00:16:30.500 Why do you have it then?
00:16:31.500 Just to promote yourself?
00:16:32.500 Where?
00:16:33.500 Yeah.
00:16:34.500 Sorry.
00:16:35.500 I like how the cheater gets it.
00:16:37.500 She gets it.
00:16:38.500 You should all go through the proper cheating to understand some stuff.
00:16:42.500 First of all, let me tell you what I did.
00:16:45.500 Okay.
00:16:46.500 Go ahead.
00:16:47.500 I told her to delete it.
00:16:48.500 She said yes immediately.
00:16:49.500 And I closed my, I deactivated my account as well.
00:16:52.500 But she didn't ask me is the difference.
00:16:54.500 Yeah.
00:16:55.500 And now why I said it?
00:16:56.500 Because there is no reason, any reason at all for her to like upload pictures on Instagram.
00:17:02.500 Or anything.
00:17:03.500 Why?
00:17:04.500 For who?
00:17:05.500 I'm in front of her.
00:17:06.500 She can wear anything she wants.
00:17:08.500 She can not wear anything she wants.
00:17:09.500 Maybe she's not doing it for you.
00:17:10.500 For who?
00:17:11.500 Maybe family, friends, if she lives abroad whatsoever.
00:17:13.500 For my friends, she can send her mother on WhatsApp.
00:17:15.500 That could do.
00:17:16.500 Call them.
00:17:17.500 Yeah.
00:17:18.500 There's no reason why.
00:17:19.500 And because she was like a bit famous for what she was doing in an international level. 0.54
00:17:24.500 So there was many people there on Instagram.
00:17:28.500 So yeah, I didn't want all these people to just follow her and watch her.
00:17:31.500 That was toxic from my side.
00:17:33.500 Hmm.
00:17:34.500 Yeah.
00:17:35.500 I wouldn't do that now.
00:17:36.500 I wouldn't care at all.
00:17:37.500 But yeah, I'm telling you the situation.
00:17:38.500 Who told you that was toxic?
00:17:39.500 Why is that toxic?
00:17:40.500 People call it toxic these days.
00:17:42.500 Yeah, I felt, I felt.
00:17:43.500 It's controlling.
00:17:44.500 It's not toxic.
00:17:45.500 It's controlling.
00:17:46.500 And it's not fair.
00:17:47.500 No, no, no.
00:17:48.500 I'm saying toxic because it was like overruled.
00:17:50.500 For example, you don't like something.
00:17:52.500 Let her go. 0.99
00:17:53.500 That's it.
00:17:54.500 If she really like wants you, she will understand on her own.
00:17:58.500 And then that's a green flag.
00:17:59.500 She will deactivate it. 0.95
00:18:00.500 She knows it's wrong.
00:18:01.500 So was she using Instagram as a job? 0.80
00:18:03.500 Like four jobs?
00:18:04.500 Like was it a business Instagram or because you said she was known internationally?
00:18:08.500 It was a bit of promotion, but she wasn't like actively making money from Instagram itself.
00:18:14.500 Can I ask how long the relationship last after this?
00:18:19.500 One week.
00:18:20.500 It lasted six months.
00:18:21.500 No, no.
00:18:22.500 After you asked her to close the Instagram.
00:18:24.500 Oh, that was maybe the first month.
00:18:26.500 After a month.
00:18:27.500 Do you guys think that a man should be allowed to go to a strip club in a relationship?
00:18:31.500 Just watch.
00:18:32.500 Yes.
00:18:33.500 Yeah.
00:18:34.500 Yeah.
00:18:35.500 Bachelor parties.
00:18:36.500 It was okay.
00:18:37.500 He went through with his friends.
00:18:39.500 Would you go to a show in Vegas?
00:18:41.500 Would you go to a show in Vegas?
00:18:42.500 Go to where?
00:18:43.500 To a show in Vegas.
00:18:44.500 What is that?
00:18:45.500 Las Vegas, for example.
00:18:46.500 And see all these male shows that they do.
00:18:48.500 No, no, no, no.
00:18:49.500 Not at all.
00:18:50.500 Respect.
00:18:51.500 We don't have to do it back if we allow and we agree with this.
00:18:55.500 I don't even do it as a single girl.
00:18:56.500 Actually, I have a question.
00:18:58.500 Have you guys ever had a celebrity DM you or message you?
00:19:02.500 Yeah.
00:19:03.500 So, no?
00:19:04.500 I dated, I don't know if he's technically a celebrity, but he's well known in his field.
00:19:11.500 And we were dating for a long time.
00:19:13.500 Okay.
00:19:14.500 Have you ever had a celebrity?
00:19:15.500 No.
00:19:16.500 Yes.
00:19:17.500 No.
00:19:18.500 I had DM me, but I never dated.
00:19:20.500 I didn't say date.
00:19:21.500 I just said DM you.
00:19:22.500 Yes.
00:19:23.500 Yes.
00:19:24.500 You don't have Instagram.
00:19:25.500 No, but I just, back in the days I met someone that is actually really, really famous now.
00:19:30.500 And I, yeah.
00:19:31.500 Okay.
00:19:32.500 Yes.
00:19:33.500 What about you?
00:19:34.500 Yeah.
00:19:35.500 Okay.
00:19:36.500 Wait.
00:19:37.500 So, show of hands who said yes, it was.
00:19:38.500 So, out of one, two, three, four, five, six, seven random women that none of you knew each other, right?
00:19:43.500 No?
00:19:44.500 Okay.
00:19:45.500 Four, five have been messaged by celebrities.
00:19:47.500 Was it the same one?
00:19:48.500 No.
00:19:51.500 But that's the point, right?
00:19:53.500 That's why guys don't want you to have Instagram.
00:19:55.500 Like, that's why, like, that's why it's cheating.
00:19:57.500 Because out of seven random chicks, more than half have been messaged by a celebrity.
00:20:03.500 And so when you're in a relationship, a guy can message you at any time and ruin it.
00:20:08.500 But also just on that, surely it's what you do in response, whether you like delete, block, don't get involved, right?
00:20:16.500 Rather than, yeah, ooh, you know what I mean?
00:20:20.500 Would you, all right, well, what if the roles were reversed?
00:20:22.500 Would you want your boyfriend to go to a party where every single girl wants to sleep with him? 1.00
00:20:28.500 I mean, I mean, not really.
00:20:31.500 Not at all.
00:20:32.500 But it's not quite the same thing because one is physical there in your face.
00:20:36.500 And one is like an electronic device.
00:20:38.500 Okay, would you want him to have Tinder?
00:20:40.500 Well, not if we're dating, absolutely not.
00:20:42.500 Why would you have Tinder if you're dating?
00:20:43.500 Yeah, any dating apps.
00:20:45.500 Instagram is not just a dating app though.
00:20:47.500 Even though you're saying it's the most...
00:20:50.500 Why else would men message you on Instagram?
00:20:53.500 You don't have to respond.
00:20:55.500 I wouldn't respond.
00:20:56.500 He doesn't have to respond on Tinder.
00:20:57.500 He just wants to see the women they message him. 0.99
00:20:59.500 Yeah, I get your point.
00:21:01.500 But at the same time...
00:21:02.500 Just to look at them.
00:21:03.500 Guys from the men, have any of you been messaged by a celebrity woman?
00:21:07.500 Anyone?
00:21:08.500 Oh, yeah.
00:21:09.500 Where's the Tinder boy?
00:21:10.500 Where's the Tinder boy?
00:21:11.500 Bring him back! 0.86
00:21:12.500 Bring him back! 0.86
00:21:13.500 He probably had it all.
00:21:15.500 Yeah, but they're just friends.
00:21:17.500 Don't cap.
00:21:18.500 Yeah.
00:21:19.500 Don't cap.
00:21:20.500 Don't cap, bro.
00:21:22.500 They're just friends.
00:21:24.500 You've been messaged?
00:21:26.500 Uh...
00:21:27.500 I've been messaged.
00:21:29.500 But...
00:21:30.500 They are not famous.
00:21:33.500 They weren't famous at the time.
00:21:35.500 And then they got famous.
00:21:36.500 And then they messaged me.
00:21:38.500 But...
00:21:39.500 So it was like an ex, sort of?
00:21:40.500 No, just like friendship.
00:21:41.500 Common friends, you know.
00:21:42.500 People in the industry.
00:21:43.500 Okay.
00:21:44.500 And then...
00:21:45.500 Someone gets famous and they're like,
00:21:46.500 Oh shit, you exist.
00:21:47.500 Hey.
00:21:48.500 Okay.
00:21:49.500 Who was it?
00:21:50.500 Names?
00:21:51.500 No names.
00:21:52.500 No names.
00:21:53.500 Names?
00:21:54.500 Nah.
00:21:55.500 I had a relationship with a celebrity.
00:21:59.500 But we've met like in person.
00:22:00.500 She didn't text me or I didn't text you.
00:22:02.500 Oh, okay.
00:22:03.500 I'm curious out of the girls. 0.50
00:22:05.500 Anyone want to give me the names who messaged you?
00:22:07.500 I can.
00:22:08.500 Yeah?
00:22:09.500 I can.
00:22:10.500 Yeah, who?
00:22:11.500 Right now, I don't even know how to pronounce his name.
00:22:13.500 Maximil...
00:22:14.500 Maximilian White?
00:22:15.500 He's...
00:22:16.500 The biggest cannabis.
00:22:18.500 Oh...
00:22:20.500 Maximilian...
00:22:21.500 I can Google him.
00:22:23.500 What is it?
00:22:25.500 What does he do?
00:22:26.500 Uh...
00:22:27.500 I don't know.
00:22:28.500 He just...
00:22:29.500 Cannabis.
00:22:30.500 I mean, he's drunk.
00:22:31.500 He's a criminal.
00:22:32.500 No, he's not.
00:22:33.500 Okay.
00:22:34.500 Anyone else?
00:22:35.500 Any names?
00:22:36.500 Names?
00:22:37.500 No?
00:22:38.500 No.
00:22:39.500 I respect it.
00:22:40.500 No snitching.
00:22:41.500 Okay.
00:22:42.500 That's him.
00:22:43.500 Uh...
00:22:44.500 Let me see.
00:22:45.500 Mmm...
00:22:46.500 I've never heard of him.
00:22:48.500 You're very brave.
00:22:49.500 You know, today saying things straight, raw, straight.
00:22:51.500 She's funny.
00:22:52.500 Okay.
00:22:53.500 You're very brave, you know, today saying things straight, raw, straight.
00:22:57.500 She's funny.
00:22:58.500 She's funny.
00:22:59.500 Okay.