Modern Women Don't Agree With This
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Summary
In this episode, we talk about the importance of a good relationship with your partner, why women should travel first and then have kids, and the future of the human race. We also talk about what it means to be a modern man.
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Even though a lot of women wouldn't agree with it,
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They want to know that that woman is the only one.
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You're the only one as a man that's going with this woman, basically.
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But that is something that I've heard from a lot of men,
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To be honest, I've been kind of thinking about children,
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but I just feel like when I'm a little bit more stable,
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when I finish doing certain things with myself, then I'll have them.
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Why do we have to travel first and then have the family?
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I just felt like I need to do some things by myself separately and then I'll get to the family.
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So I'm just curious, like, what made you say you have to do that first?
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I just want to travel without a kid first and then I'll travel with a kid.
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So this is something that has been going around online that the men have been saying.
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Modern men have to work five times harder than their grandfathers did for women 20 times worse than what their grandmothers were.
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And I would just say, in general, most people, like, a third of us didn't grow up in two-parent homes.
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So a lot of us weren't trained or, like, told how to be a wife.
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Well, I don't think being promiscuous makes you necessarily worse.
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And I think probably fewer children is a good idea.
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So what about, like, the replacement birth rate?
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Yeah, well, again, I think less is definitely better than more.
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You know, 45% of men are in infrastructure jobs.
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Modern men have to work five times harder than their grandfathers did,
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for women 20 times worse than what their grandmothers were.
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Yeah, I just don't, I don't, what even is that?
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Do you think women today are more supportive than our grandmothers?
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To be honest, I don't know whose grandma was what back in the day.
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Okay, what about, what about, what about your grandma?
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I know that it all depends on the person that you are.
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I mean, there's a lot of people that follow in the, um.
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Like, we have to pick a side just so we can, this is a conversation in general,
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So we're just talking about the average man, average woman.
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Well, um, now I've been thrown off because I'm just thinking of a bit more of a.
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Do you think women today are more supportive than our grandmothers?
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Some of them want everything just handed to them.
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So then you would, you would agree with this then, right?
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I, well, of course, with inflation and everything, I do believe that men are working 10 times,
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if not 20 times harder than our grandfathers did.
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And definitely as women, we are offering a bit less, especially with the lives we have today.
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We always want less kids because we want a career before we even want to enter marriage.
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By the time we enter marriage, we don't really have the capacity to bear as many children as the men would like.
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Because I find that women actually want too much, which is why men have to work harder.
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Well, not necessarily too much, but they want a lot more now than they wanted back then.
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What do we want today that we didn't want yesterday?
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I don't know if six foot was on the table a hundred years ago.
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I don't know if that's what the grandmothers and great grandmothers were like, you need a man that's six foot.
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They need to have the money and the expenses to be able to afford the woman.
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So, I feel like that's what a lot of women in today's society want.
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Do you think men used to have to afford a woman?
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A little bit, yes, but not as much as, I don't think it was asked for as much as it is now.
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You think a woman was more willing to work with a man?
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Um, well, I'm not sure if it's a correct term to use, hoflation.
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It's just more amplified now because we can see it.
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Like, for example, if my parents or let's say my grandparents had an issue, I would never find out.
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Like, I'm finding out things now what my granddad did after he passed.
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If you see on social media what happened in L.A.
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I think we are sort of easy to get information rather than how it was before.
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I think the only difference is we can see it now.
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The problems have been more magnified than it was back then.
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It's not different as in what the perception of it.
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My grandmother stayed, but don't mean that she was fully happy with the situation.
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But I feel like women lately sort of feel like, why do I need to stay in misery if I can just go and...
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Let's say my grandmother didn't have that space or that world to even navigate through freely as a woman to even, you know, just do things for herself.
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It's just the world wouldn't allow her to navigate through life as it is now.
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Allow, I say, for example, this is book I read.
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I think it's got a thousand candles in the sand.
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But it's to do with something happening in Afghanistan where this woman weren't allowed to travel without a man being with them.
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You can't even go to the shop without being with a male figure.
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Well, because the world used to be a more dangerous place too.
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But I'm saying, like, we have institutions that protect women that, depending on the time period and where you were in the world, didn't always exist.
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Like the police force, like legal systems that could...
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Sometimes we judge, like, laws of the past by the times of today.
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The girl that wrote the book was actually in the story that she was telling about.
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When I hear allow, like, it sounds like we couldn't work back then and we could...
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But I'm just saying, back to you saying that, did my grandmother stay?
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Maybe if she had the opportunity to go out there and navigate as how women can today, who knows?
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But I feel like the world has always been a bit terrifying for just, I guess, just people not knowing how to stay together.
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I feel like men have been men and women have been women.
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Women didn't have the platform to say what they're saying now.
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Like, before, we wouldn't know what's happening in someone else's family.
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But now you've got people filming what's happening in their own household and posting on social media.
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You've got someone just laying in his bed at home.
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He can just say whatever and that'll get to me.
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Whereby, way back, I wouldn't know what he thinks or she thinks.
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So I'm just stuck in my own little world that I've created for myself.
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But now your perception can be injected by anyone.
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And I can see you on Twitter and feel offended.
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And the reason why I agree with the statement is because guys do generally have to work much harder now.
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And the reason why I feel that they need to work much harder is in terms of inflation.
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And in terms of inflation in the last 10 years, it's absolutely ridiculous.
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And the government just keeps raising inflation.
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But however, the inflation rises just above the wages.
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So then a lot more has to go in for them to get a lot out.
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It depends on how that woman thinks and what her perspective is.
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So, again, I wouldn't pigeonhole every single female.
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Well, if you're average, I'm not sure about the average.
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But however, I was brought up in a way where we were raised to support our men.
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But you would support them in their endeavors or their dreams, etc.
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And you'd be that backbone towards their goals or their dreams, etc.
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But for what I've seen, for the females around me, no, they don't.
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So, yeah, especially with like half of, like, how can we say we're supportive if half of
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It's like, because, you know, it's like if you're going to support, you got to stay and
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Again, I know you say you don't like the word depends.
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But however, I wouldn't recommend for someone to stay in an abusive relationship.
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Why is abusive the first thing that comes to your head?
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Yeah, but I've known women that have left from relationships because of physical abuse.
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You think the majority of men are abusing women?
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So, like, why is it the first thing that comes to your head?
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Um, you're saying it's about support and leave.
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But I'm saying if half of women are leaving and then the first thing you say is abuse,
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I'm just, I'm asking why that's the first thing.
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No, I'm saying that's the first thing you said, though.
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So, my first thing I would say, if a relationship is abusive, then you have the right to leave.
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But, like, my point was that half of women are leaving.
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And so, I'm saying we can't be supportive if we're leaving.
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Well, unless someone knows the reason why they're leaving, every relationship and every partnership has their reason why they leave.
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Outside of abuse, which we agree is the minority, right?
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But would you agree those are minority cases, not majority?
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So, wouldn't you say the majority of women are not supportive?
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So, I agree with the part where there isn't much quality women that are left that has dropped massively.
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I slightly disagree with the part where men have to work extra hard now and days compared to the men back in the days.
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On two aspects, financially, it's more easier to gain financial success if you just understand the strategies to it in today's timing.
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And in terms of finding a woman, I think it's absolutely easy for males to find a decent woman.
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Only because females are now degrading themselves and they're showing it in front of the whole world in the public.
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So, men are now able to now look at that and say, okay, well, I don't want you.
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They can filter more easily because females are just upcoming degrading themselves.
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A decent woman would carry such qualities that would facilitate being a mother, a wife, and a lady.
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And some of those will come from the parenting, how they were raised in the first place.
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And then part of that will also be down to their decisions that they make in life.
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Do you think the majority of women were raised to be wives?
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Are there women that want to give 10 kids nowadays?
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It's just more easier to filter through it now.
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A quality woman is basically a woman that most men would dream to have.
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I don't agree with females bringing anything to the table.
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No, but you said it's not that hard for a man to find a quality.
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But I'm saying we have to define what is a quality woman.
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I can define to you what type of woman that they won't want.
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Like, how many kids does a quality woman bring?
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She would also have the skills to know how to cook and, well, how to use the kitchen app.
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A woman should know how to feed the hunger and heal the sick within the kitchen.
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Those are two qualities that a woman should have.
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Because you can be a quality woman for the rest of your life.
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So, a 40-year-old woman is equally as quality as a 20-year-old woman.
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They could still be quality women at just different ages.
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What do you bring at 40 that you wouldn't have at 20?
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Are older women generally known for being more agreeable and better?
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There's a lot of things that we haven't experienced, you know, that we can't really comment on.
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Okay, what are women over 30's reputation that are still single?
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Oh, the reputation defines them as a person, right?
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You don't think we can make generalities based on a reputation?
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But if you think we're talking about women, all right, I understand that.
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Is it for the men that we're talking about this role?
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Right, but I'm saying if she's 40, what is she going to bring to a guy who wants a new wife and a family?
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You're more likely to get divorced the more sexual experience you have.
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Well, maybe that's because you won't settle for less.
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Well, settling is when you're in a marriage that isn't perhaps perfect and you want to go out and explore what else is available.
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Yeah, because women think they deserve more than they do.
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Well, I mean, if you could get it, you would get it, right?
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So if she hasn't gotten it, how does she deserve something she can't get?
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No, but seriously, a guy that wants a wife, what is he going to get out of a woman that is 40 years old?
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I mean, I know you don't want kids, but I think.
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So the question is, what does a 40-year-old woman bring that a 20-year-old can't?
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Okay, well, better conversation, more life experience, more money, potentially, better career, more education.
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Yeah, again, the interesting ones would, I'm sure.
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It's more like the broke men care about your career.
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I think it would be more important to a man with a career because then you'd have something to talk about and points you can relate to each other.
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There is a lot of things going on that you might not have experienced to really be able to comment on.
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Okay, then why do the richest men not care about a woman's career?
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They just see what's on social media, what's out on, you know, on the internet.
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No, but some women grow out of it and they realize that there's more about a man than just his money.
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You know, have your money, but all of the extra stuff.
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So all the extra stuff, it's been there, done that.
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Then you start more focusing on the man's mentality, their mental health, how to become better, not be a nuisance.
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It's not really about the jewels and all the extra stuff.
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With all the knowledge they have about men and how to be better, they still end up single.
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They've been together from 20 to now and they're 57.
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I'm talking about this generation of women that are single.
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So if the data shows that men don't like women the older they get, what does that mean?
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Every dating app data that you can possibly take.
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Even if you have men pick women by scent, they still pick the younger women.
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They literally don't even have to see the women.
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No, I mean, there's biological reasons why we do the things we do and men are attracted
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They're attracted to youth because historically they had to reproduce and you're more likely
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to be able to reproduce more children with a younger woman.
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But you can't just undo biology the same way you like taller men because they can protect
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The same way you like muscles because it can protect you.
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The same reason women like rich men because they want resources.
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Are we talking about men over 50 or how old are we even talking about?
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We're talking about older men like younger women.
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You know what age they ranked the most attractive from 18 to 80, all of them?
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I've had some apps go as long as 18 where men or women, it doesn't peak till 50.
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So really and truly men are just looking for the looks.
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I know some girls that just don't lift a finger and they get it.
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Well, I think that's the whole point is that like that's all women bring in 2023.
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The majority of us haven't been raised to be wives.
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This day and age, anything below 25, they have been struggling.
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Not all of them, but there is a lot that have been struggling.
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Yeah, because we got, I think the women between like.
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To be honest, everyone's expectations and that is different.
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But a lot of young girls haven't been really taught about respecting themselves.
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You know, they don't, they're not being told how to conduct themselves.
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We've all had our moments, but I feel like it's all to do with the maturity.
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But I do believe that it works good and bad for like that free spirit.
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So maybe if they want an older guy, an older man might not like that free spirit too much
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because they kind of want, depending on the guy.
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But they might want a bit more of a submissive girl.
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Are people more likely to change when they're older or younger?
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If a guy, if a guy's been committing crimes until 18,
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is he more likely to stop if he stops at 18 or if he stops at 35?
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He's been doing it for 15 years or he's been doing it for two years?
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If there's others that don't, then I can't say, no, you don't.
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But I do know of everyone around me that they've changed from in their early 20s to their mid-30s, late-30s.
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If you're a woman and you don't, you don't, you don't, you, okay, let's put it like this.
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You're so sure that guys don't change and you're not a guy.
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But for a woman, you have a completely different view on it.
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And having their own ambitions as well and being able to make their own money.
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Judging on male friends of mine, what they've said, what they find is valuable in a woman is the biggest word.
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Even though a lot of women wouldn't agree with it, it's something that men tend to really love.
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They want to know that that woman is the only one.
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You're the only one as a man that's going with this woman, basically.
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I'm not going to go into too much details, but that is something that I've heard from a lot of men, that they do like the loyalty.
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Obviously, you know, the same old cook and all that kind of stuff.
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But then again, I've also heard, which I kind of understand to a certain extent, that when you're doing all that wifey, wifey stuff, it's great.
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They know that you're home, but it gets boring for some men.
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And that's why some men go and cheat, because they want someone that's not doing the everyday stuff that is going on at home.
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I don't agree with it, but it's just something that I have basically heard of.
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No, that it's just like, it's boring, you know, with all these, these things that we as women feel that is valuable to a man.
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We, we think what we think, but men won't think the way we think, you know?
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Have you ever heard the phrase, you can't compete with noob, you know?
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In order to pass on their genes, they had to, you know, how did Ganges Khan, like, get two out of every 100 people?
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It's the same reason, it's the same reason we like rich guys, right?
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Because if you got the highest value guy, he was the most likely to protect you and pass on resources to you.
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There's biological reasons we feel the way we feel.
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So we shouldn't, we shouldn't confuse what he does with the concubine with the queen.
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I literally would have said everything she just said.
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I don't think there's anything that I would have added to it.
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Oh, I don't know if there's anything that I could add to what she said.
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I think if she got good morals, then she would take all the boxes that one's saying.
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So if she got good morals, then she'll be respectful.
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And that would just naturally reciprocate and that leads to loyalty.
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I think a woman should be a man's piece and a good home.
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By not stressing him out, supporting him with what he chooses to do, and, yeah, make the home a home.
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What's the best way she can not stress him out?
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By giving him problems or telling him problems that he doesn't really need to know about, etc.
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I can give you three points of what would make a woman valuable today.
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Those three points would be health, that they're healthy.
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I'll say this contributes, but a two-parent household that they've experienced, lived in.
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If you want more kids, when would you want them?
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And remind them what age you are and what age you'd want kids.
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You know, we're all just bags of chemicals, and the older you get, egg quality drops off,
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Certainly, nature intended us to reproduce teens in the early 20s.
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And remind them how old you are and what age you want kids.
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To be honest, I've been kind of thinking about children, but I just feel like...
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When I'm a little bit more stable, when I finish doing certain things with myself,
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Like, when I grew up, I traveled with my family.
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Like, why do we have to travel first and then have the family?
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I just felt like I need to do some things by myself separately, and then I'll get to
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Like, what made you say you have to do that first?
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I just want to travel without a kid first, and then I'll travel with a kid.
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I'm 20, and I'm hoping to have children by, like, between 23 and 25.
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And then after that, I don't think, I don't see myself wanting to have kids after 35.
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You don't mind having more kids, or you want more kids?
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I'm in a relationship, so if it's something that is in the books, then, yeah.
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Well, I'm just asking what you want, your perfect reality.
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It's like one day you think yes, the next day you think no.
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Well, I feel like when you have your kids, that's down to your personal choice of what
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So long as you can provide for them, and love them, and give them the things that they need,
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and you've got the support, maybe, by family, their family, etc.
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In terms of age, I feel that that's very personal.
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Maybe in terms of when you said an older woman, yes, there is more health risks.
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Even if you passed it, like, what would be the ideal age to have kids?
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Well, personally speaking, I feel that being a younger parent, there's more advantage, simply
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You've still got a lot of energy, where you can do quite a lot of activities with them.
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When you're a more mature parent, I feel that you become less energetic, and it may become
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Not impossible, but however, it's not going to be as easy when you've got, like, a lot
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No, I had them a bit younger, which I'm glad that I did.
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Okay, why is that you just had more energy, is what you're saying?
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Because it's fact, I've had children, and when I was younger, I had a way lot more energy,
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whereas becoming a more mature parent, I would have a way lot less energy now than what I
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Yeah, no, I've heard that if you wait too long, like, because my dad, my youngest sister, is
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10 years younger than me, and he's just exhausted.
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He's like, I'm trying to get these kids out of the house.
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I'm 25, and if I had a partner, I would have children as soon as he's ready to be able
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He said, I'll marry you in the next six months.
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Men smell funny, or if they're stupid or boring, I guess.
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If they're jealous and possessive, obviously abusive, that kind of thing.
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It's like, why is that the first thing women say?
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I guess it's like the worst thing you can imagine, really.
00:38:21.040
Yeah, but it's like, why are we always thinking of the worst thing that could happen?
00:38:26.040
Because in debate, I suppose you go to the extreme to make your point.
00:38:29.560
You know, all right, just men that smell funny, then, and balmy.
00:38:39.240
Come on, who you asked the question is very obvious.
00:38:42.640
No one's going to stay with an abusive, crazy psycho that's beating you left, right, and center.
00:38:46.260
My question is not telling you to stay with an abusive guy.
00:39:15.000
Because if I was to get into it with my partner, then we was to start getting mad.
00:39:26.360
No, so it's funny because one-sided abuse, women hit men one-sided more than men hit women one-sided.
00:39:34.400
Yet women are always the ones that bring up abuse.
00:39:37.460
When if we're going to be technical about it, men should be the ones bringing up abuse and they never do.
00:39:46.960
Maybe men that haven't been abusive can say it too.
00:39:50.080
Like, maybe when you're just not, when you're not abusive, you probably will bring it up because it's something that you just don't believe in, you know?
00:39:56.940
No, my whole point is women have this, like, negative picture of men that they're just abusive out to get us.
00:40:04.640
I would say, I would say in general, I hear the word abuse come up way too often considering, like, from women, I never hear it from men, even though one-sided abuse is more common from women to men.
00:40:18.860
But that's because the men are meant to be alpha and the stronger ones, so they would never admit that anyway.
00:40:22.840
My point is, like, why do women always go to the extreme?
00:40:28.600
If we would agree, right, we'd agree it's the minority of guys that are abusing women.
00:40:42.900
I wouldn't say it's the majority, but with my friends and stuff and family and stuff, I've seen it quite a lot.
00:40:51.340
And from what I've heard, it's something that I personally would never want to go through.
00:40:56.460
And so I'm not saying it's the majority of men, but I have heard it quite frequently from lots of different backgrounds.
00:41:23.080
I would say the majority of women that say they were abused are lying.
00:41:28.980
Because what they did was they expanded the definition of abuse.
00:41:32.360
So women will use these words that, like, mean nothing.
00:41:41.880
And the only reason I say this is because I've done these shows so many times and women come on.
00:41:46.520
They tell me their story and then I ask questions.
00:41:54.080
She said my ex-boyfriend, like, shoved me out of the house or whatever, like, pushed me out.
00:41:59.580
And I was like, okay, like, why did he shove you, like, to the ground or whatever?
00:42:07.940
But does it give him the right to then shove her?
00:42:10.080
I mean, I think if I have someone that is breaking and entering into my house, I certainly can shove you out of there.
00:42:19.680
Because if you love someone, I wouldn't really be...
00:42:22.520
Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you the problem is, like, I know guys that have slammed a door that the woman was holding on to the door.
00:42:37.360
And I'm saying, and I'm telling you, you wouldn't know not being in it how one-sided it is.
00:42:44.560
Like, it's very much like, and the reason we can look at this is because family court is based on a balance of probabilities,
00:42:53.500
So if you really want to see how common is abuse, the majority of abuse allegations that happen in family court, only 10% take it to the police.
00:43:03.720
So that tells us that the majority aren't even taking it to the police.
00:43:09.460
Yeah, that's why I think they're lying, the majority.
00:43:12.100
But would you not think that if it's to do with family, then the reason it's not a higher rate is because they don't want to break up that family?
00:43:19.020
Well, if they're going to court, they're already breaking up the family, so they clearly don't give a shit.
00:43:26.880
There's still ways around it where the father can still see the son or the daughter, whatever it is, like the child, but without actually putting them in jail.
00:43:34.140
Why would you want to leave an abusive man out to abuse another woman?
00:43:40.760
If he was hitting in a, because I have two questions.
00:43:43.180
The average man can beat up a woman pretty easy.
00:43:46.420
If you're fine, if you don't have any visible, no arms are broken, no nothing, my question is, how is he abusing you?
00:43:54.860
Oh, there's all different kinds of terms of abuse.
00:43:59.400
Okay, okay, right there, right there, right there.
00:44:03.720
Who is more emotionally manipulative, men or women?
00:44:15.460
That term didn't even exist until like the 80s, 70s or 80s.
00:44:18.780
They got into, the feminists got into the legal system, added all these words that don't mean anything to convince women that we're victims.
00:44:32.820
Like, I don't think it's that common for a man to beat a woman.
00:44:37.280
I would add to that and say, I don't think most females are lying.
00:44:43.240
I would say they provoke the situation and they just don't want to admit that they either started it first or literally just provoked it.
00:44:51.080
I just want to say for everyone who's watching this, if you're going through abuse right now and you, you know, you find our stuff, our conversation offensive, please, you know, this is just our individual opinions.
00:45:00.940
And if you are going through it, you know, seek help and my love to you.
00:45:20.460
I think they don't talk about their part to play.
00:45:24.520
Oftentimes they just snap because they emotionally abuse it.
00:45:27.820
And I think it's funny because, again, women do it to men more than men do it to women.
00:45:42.420
But I'm telling you, there's some people out there right now that are suffering and they're not, they don't even know how to speak.
00:45:52.300
I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but my whole point is like, why wouldn't you go to the police?
00:46:04.940
I think as a woman, you cannot accuse a man of being abusive without going to criminal court.
00:46:13.500
And I, with this, okay, any, any guy in here, any guy in here, if he abused me, you don't think there would be evidence?
00:46:34.300
Any one of these guys could beat me up pretty easy to the point they're like, there would be bruises.
00:46:40.180
There would be, there would absolutely be evidence.
00:46:51.200
And again, like I said, you can't pigeonhole every situation.
00:46:56.440
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not saying you are, I'm not saying, I'm not saying you are.
00:47:00.660
Remember what I said before, I'm talking about in general.
00:47:06.620
Because like what you're saying, yeah, you are right.
00:47:09.660
There are some very manipulative women out there.
00:47:12.540
And when they can't get the one, yeah, they may tell lies.
00:47:16.440
But then on the other hand, which they're always at the other hand, there's generally women that are being literally abused.
00:47:30.760
I mean, there is, and I feel like, guys as well, you know, like, I feel like guys don't speak as much because simply the fact that it takes away their male masculinity and stuff like that.
00:47:43.400
And it will make them feel like, oh, I'm not a man if I go on competing.
00:47:49.800
They would still, they would still, they would still paint the women.
00:47:51.840
I've seen videos on TikTok of a woman like freaking out at a man.
00:47:55.900
And what, and what, what does everyone say in the comments?
00:48:00.480
I mean, we had, we had on, we had anyone country fan, country fan, Carrie Underwood.
00:48:05.660
I dug my key into the side of his pretty, you know, the song, right?
00:48:12.620
And if a guy did that to a woman, everyone be freaking out.
00:48:15.760
I would even argue that if we're to use the same way that women define abuse.
00:48:23.140
To like, look at all the cases that men go through.
00:48:27.100
I would argue that almost every woman has abused a man that they've been in a relationship with.
00:48:32.240
If we're to, if we're to go by the same standards of the way women shout abuse.
00:48:36.300
I would say every single woman that has dated a man has abused that man.
00:48:53.420
Oh, he was saying that most women, if we use the same definitions, most women have abused men.
00:49:00.140
Well, I know someone really close to me that is a man that has been abused by a woman.
00:49:07.360
But anyway, either way, it is some sort of abuse.
00:49:12.020
I'm saying, if we're to use the definitions of the way women claim abuse, let's even take it out of, in general.
00:49:18.960
I would say you sitting right there have abused almost every man you've been in a relationship with.
00:49:32.700
Oh, so you're not telling me that I am abusive to a man?
00:49:36.560
No, he's saying by the definition that feminists use.
00:49:39.720
And by the legal system, so coercive control, emotionally manipulative, narcissistic.
00:49:44.500
It's like women throw narcissists at men 24-7 when it's like, who's more narcissistic?
00:49:52.180
Yeah, we're all just basically corrupt, aren't we?