00:09:25.360And this tweet said that either, because I didn't understand why the Daily Wire pretends that this divorce grape stuff just is not happening.
00:10:29.840And I got to say, white people just put up with dis—not all, not all, not—I can't even talk like this, ain't right.
00:10:37.540We have a tendency, I'll say, we have a tendency to put up with disrespect that I don't find that other races do the same.
00:10:47.700And oftentimes, we put up with, like, subtle disrespect, let's say.
00:10:51.820And I just kind of had to ask the question, your primary purpose of your Twitter is not to support your husband, but to troll your husband.
00:11:08.240Like, obviously, I'm getting ratioed on this stuff, but I don't care about the ratio.
00:11:12.860There's too many simps for me to take that seriously.
00:11:16.260Like, you guys believe women at all costs.
00:11:18.800So, okay, they said, here we got—okay, Pearl, we're going to have to have the birds and the bees talk.
00:11:27.340When a man and a woman love each other very, very much, have been married forever, have a billion kids, trolling each other is a form of foreplay.
00:11:34.080One day, one day, I may—oh, thank God, I might get to experience the tiniest amount of that.
00:11:42.360And I keep asking the question, is your job to be a support system or an adversary?
00:11:48.580And the other question I have is, if women wouldn't do this to a boss, right?
00:14:42.640So, we're going to read the chat on the website, and then I'll check to see if we have super chats.
00:14:54.860Okay, American women will be married to a high-value man, but will still have to be seen and heard to maintain this illusion like she's stood beside him or contributing somehow.
00:15:19.660I reserve the right to say, you know, maybe I just got that wrong, but I think she's just going to keep going until she really embarrasses him bad.
00:15:42.820So, we'll get into the topic today, but I wanted to let you guys know what we're talking about tomorrow, and you are totally welcome to call in.
00:15:51.240So, today we're going to talk about high-earning women and wage gap relationships.
00:15:57.860So, throughout most of history, it was accepted that a man would pay all of the bills if he was in a serious relationship or married.
00:16:08.060Men went out and they brought home that bacon.
00:16:10.460They earned the money, the resources, and women kept the home.
00:16:15.240In the last 50 years, women have decided that the patriarchy was oppressive and decided to change the social contract.
00:16:24.060Now, there is talk of going 50-50 and the dangers of wage gap relationships.
00:16:30.620Modern leftist feminists are trying to brainwash women into thinking that a man can become abusive if he makes more money than the woman.
00:16:39.860Men out-earn women and always will in our lifetime.
00:16:43.200While women may be getting more and more education, they are also getting more debt and still go into industries that don't make a lot of money.
00:16:50.060As men continue to do the dirty and dangerous jobs that women won't, men will make more money.
00:16:58.520So, to demonize a man because he makes more money is another exercise in how feminism will keep women single.
00:17:07.360Wage gap relationships is just another word that these women came up with, and that's what we're going to talk about on today's show.
00:17:16.080So, okay, so I'm going to play, or no, first I'm going to read this article.
00:17:22.780So, this is an article by Charlie Ross.
00:17:27.040Are you in an age, not an age gap, a wage gap relationship?
00:17:33.500Pop culture tells us all kinds of things about money and relationships with it.
00:17:37.640That it makes the world go round, that it's a rich man's world.
00:17:42.200But how does it impact the dynamic of our dating life, especially if our partner or love interest earns significantly more than we do?
00:17:50.640Welcome to the world of a wage gap relationship.
00:17:53.880The podcast called The Cost of Loving revealed in a recent survey, 48% of women said they wouldn't be comfortable entering into a relationship with someone who earns less than them.
00:18:06.360Whereas, two-thirds of men reported feeling fine about dating someone with a lower salary.
00:18:12.440Is this wage gap dynamic a hangover from traditional gender roles?
00:18:18.460What about the progress that's been made towards equality in recent decades?
00:18:24.020The overall UK gender pay gap continues to fall, down by 0.4% to 11% in the past year.
00:18:31.580While the last year, in the U.S., the gap hit an all-time low of 15%, women hold almost 30% of C-suite positions in the U.S., up from 17% in 2015.
00:18:45.400Yet, while the wage gap is slowly closing, it still very much exists.
00:18:49.340Proving the historical foundations of inequality will take a lot longer to escape.
00:18:54.460Given how recent the advancements are in women's access to money, women couldn't even open a bank account in their own name until 1975.
00:19:05.060The expectations of traditional gender roles can still be present in heterosexual relationships, explains UK-based sex and relationship therapist Madeline Munro.
00:19:18.680So, and regardless of gender, earnings can be closely linked to a person's self-worth.
00:19:24.920And a gap between partners can therefore exacerbate feelings of inadequacy, making individuals feel they are not enough for a partner, according to Munro.
00:19:34.840Beyond traditional roles, it's a deeply personal and vulnerable tool that can evoke shame and fear of judgment.
00:19:43.000It is linked to security and safety, and our relationship with money is shaped by our attachment strategies, with subconscious beliefs formed before the age of seven.
00:19:54.100As a result, discussions about finances can be inherently triggering and activate nervous systems response that we may not even be aware of.
00:20:03.200These responses might include avoiding conversations about money, overspending when feeling anxious about finances, or struggling to adhere to a budget.
00:20:12.480Since money is rarely discussed openly, we may remain unaware of these patterns until we enter a relationship, or encounter specific financial hardships.
00:20:23.780So it's not surprising that the wage gap might trigger certain insecurities in a relationship.
00:20:29.980For Londoner Scarlett 31, her reluctance to date someone who earns significantly less from her doesn't come from a commitment to traditional gender roles,
00:20:38.860but the expectation to live and share a certain lifestyle.
00:20:43.340I wouldn't want to date someone who doesn't earn very much, she said.
00:20:46.420Just because I have a certain standard of living I want to maintain, I grew up with no money and wouldn't want that for my future.
00:20:54.680Whatever side of a wage gap relationship you might be on, and whether or not it bothers you,
00:20:59.800it's important to acknowledge the power dynamics at play, and how it could potentially impact your relationship.
00:21:06.060For instance, Paula, 32, in Vancouver, earns double the salary of her partner, Jack.
00:21:13.080She works in sales, and he is a business analyst.
00:21:15.940He said it doesn't bother him, but I think it does a little, she said.
00:21:19.920Sometimes he feels under pressure to keep up with the things I want to do.
00:21:23.720I've had to adjust my expectations, Paula said.
00:21:26.760That their policy is that bills are split 50-50.
00:21:29.740She admits to paying more, including for some expenses that her partner doesn't know about.
00:21:35.320This leads to feelings of tension, particularly when it comes to savings.
00:21:39.600I sometimes resent him when he spends all of his money without saving any, she says.
00:21:44.560The ingrained societal norm that a male heterosexual partner should be the breadwinner weighs heavily on Paula at times.
00:21:51.820I sometimes stress about having a family, she says, admitting that if they do have children,
00:21:57.920she wouldn't necessarily want him to stay home with them, even though it might make financial sense for him to do so.
00:22:04.720While wage gap politics can cause issues in heterosexual relationships,
00:22:13.060Eliza, 33, says she and her wife of 12 years, who have out-earned each other at different stages of their careers,
00:22:21.400have always enjoyed the financial equilibrium.
00:22:24.940I don't think people in the same-sex female couples see money as a sticking point, she says.
00:22:30.800They contribute varying amounts to a joint bank account based on how much they're earning at the time.
00:22:36.600I do feel freed of those gendered expectations and feel the opportunity for a lot more equality in same-sex relationships, she adds.
00:22:44.680Regardless of sexuality or our perception of gender roles, a wage gap can impact any real expert.
00:42:01.520You can put forth the resources and the money.
00:42:06.140Be sensible about it because, remember, men are better with money and spending than women, right?
00:42:12.320And so you set the tone with your resources and your masculine frame.
00:42:20.300And then if she's not giving you the respect that you command, you just leave.
00:42:25.960Remember, the biggest, the two biggest superpowers a man has is to be able to determine who his girlfriend, fiance, and wife is if he chooses to be married.
00:42:48.380Remember, I always say, set a comfort and convenience level, guys, and don't go beyond it.
00:42:54.120Most of the time, if you're getting frustrated with a person or a situation, you've gone above and beyond your comfort and convenience level.
00:43:04.160If a woman gets too annoying or you're spending too much on her or she's not putting out, you leave.
00:43:08.920So that goes along with, guys, you, I, I've never done 50-50, and I wouldn't because it gives a woman leverage and she's going to try to use that.
00:43:20.600Well, it's not using terms like we're going to the 50-50, but I'm doing all this emotional labor, all this garbage.
00:44:57.300Like, if I was looking at rich men, right, or well-off men and seeing that this money helped them,
00:45:04.620I don't see that helping them, though.
00:45:06.980If anything, I think that rich guys or, like, wealthy guys are known for being bigger simps
00:45:11.960because that's what they, like, lead with in order to get leverage,
00:45:15.220where the low-earning, like, the low-earning men tend to use, like, frame or game.
00:45:20.460Here's the thing, Pearl, you're talking like, you've never had to date women.
00:45:25.660You've never had to be in a relationship with a woman.
00:45:28.480When you're a man, you know from young that dealing with women who are worth anything is going to cost you money.
00:45:37.120You get, once you've achieved a certain amount, parting with money as a concept isn't really like an L.
00:45:46.600It's how much you're losing and what's the circumstance.
00:45:53.160If you're going to find a woman worth it, she's going to cost you money.
00:45:56.800It's just set expectations, and if she isn't doing what you want or showing you what you want, you leave behind.
00:46:06.080One of the worst things – so I used to mentor young African-American and young African-immigrant men, right?
00:46:11.920And I would have to teach them how to take L's.
00:46:16.820If you take a woman out on a date, pay, and then if it doesn't work out, keep it moving, but don't part with anything that you can't part with.
00:46:29.300I hate when a guy takes a woman out on a date, pays too much for a dinner, doesn't get laid, and complains about it.
00:47:26.780Because women reserve the right to change their mind at any given time.
00:47:30.800And most of the time this whole 50-50 thing goes out the door when you get married or if the woman has a kid.
00:47:38.320Because I've had friends my age who have a kid, and then all of a sudden the wife was this career-oriented boss babe.
00:47:46.400Then a kid is born, and she wants to stay home or work part-time, and she'll resent the husband because he can't afford for her to not work.
00:47:55.700Guys, put yourself in a position where if you had to, you could pay 100% of the bills.
00:48:00.480If your wife or your girlfriend wants to stay 50-50, that's fine.
00:48:03.820But odds are by the time she hits her 30s, she's not going to want to be 50-50 anymore.
00:48:09.040And you're talking – Pearl, I'm going to have to concede to you.
00:48:29.360It's like if the moms aren't – okay, if the modern women are not watching the kids, right, if they're not having a bunch of kids, what are they doing all day?
00:48:39.500Like they're having one child, Doug MPA.
00:48:42.560It's like go get a part-time job or something.
00:48:46.640Yeah, but we've deified having children.
00:48:51.740Women think that having one child, oh my God.
00:48:54.540It's like they – women of the past – my mom's mom had like 11 kids and outlived all of them or something like that.
00:49:09.100Pearl, I'm going to have to concede to you on the activities of young men because I'm not Gen Z like you.
00:49:14.280But I'm telling you, once you hit your 30s and you have means, you can date a different way.
00:49:19.300And you get to the point where if you know that you're going to make more money, you're going to be productive, and you want a certain quality of woman, it's going to cost you.
00:49:31.960If you want the kind of respect that a man of value – I'm not going to say high value, but a man of value should get, it's not 50-50.
00:49:42.660You should set the tone from the beginning and keep that tone because, once again, there's going to be a time where that woman will change her mind and not want to go 50-50 anymore.
00:49:54.440So you should be ready for it because women reserve the right to change their minds about anything at any time, especially paying for the bills.
00:50:02.160But then you could just say, too bad, get to work, lady, or leave, you know.
00:50:10.980I tell the guys I would mentor 50-50 because women have this weird thing where I may be going 50-50, but I'm also doing all this emotional labor.
00:50:20.720So, you know, I have to pay, and I have to – just don't – you don't have to pay everything, but pay the big bills at least.
00:50:27.080I'm always going to advocate for that.
00:50:29.140Put yourself in a position where you can pay 100% of the bills because one day you might have to, and if you can't, she's going to resent you and make your life hell.
00:51:31.620Gabe, have you dated a high-earning woman before?
00:51:38.800No, but I was watching the TikToks that you were watching, that one interracial couple where the girl was, you know, blabbering and blabbering, and it triggered PTSD symptoms that I say that I've heard growing up.
00:52:14.820I expect, like, my man to do housework, too, and all that stuff, and, like, as a guy, I think if I was in that position, I would be, like – it would drive me crazy.
00:52:38.240Oh, you should look up the whatever podcast clips of Andrew Wilson and Rachel Wilson having to fight off some feminists that tried to attack him physically.
00:53:09.600I'm going to read this super chat really quick, and then you can go, John.
00:53:13.180I'm 42, single, and they want to date young women, but the dating app says suck not drinking either, so where can I find me a girl advice, please?
00:53:25.680I guess the dating apps, you shouldn't unmatch girls that stop talking to you because it ranks you higher if you keep them as your matches.
00:53:36.080I mean, that's what's going viral on Twitter right now.
00:53:46.960I don't date women, but that's something I've heard from guys.
00:53:49.920No, no, no, no, no, because women don't get – well, maybe some schools, but women used to go to college, want to get married in college.
00:54:01.900But I think the majority of women get their degree to prove that they don't need a man and really want to go out into this – they get their social work degree or their lesbian dance theater degree and think that they're going to go save the world.
00:54:16.640So, please, remember the modern woman life cycle, Pearl?
00:54:19.300I know, but I just asked my Gen Z, like, brother and his friend this morning, and he told me there were girls on campus that, like, got married right now.
00:54:26.820Yeah, but how many of them are actually going to get married, though, in college?
00:54:43.520I concede to you as the expert in – with the youngins.
00:54:49.700I mean, this is just – they're saying, I don't know, but I don't think it's the – I would agree with you it's the exception, not the rule.
00:54:58.460John, what do you have for me on the topic?
00:58:36.600Yeah, because that actually, like, counters the point you had made earlier about, like, a lot of these women struggle, like, letting go of that stuff.
00:58:44.260And you had said something about, like, the transition of becoming a mom.
00:58:49.560I guess I'm the exception to the rule.
00:58:51.620I know that's probably what you mean about, like, proven pro, right?
00:58:54.320I'm being the exception to the rule where she realized it before that and realized, oh, I want to be a mom.
00:59:14.460So, I have a friend who's a woman who's very successful, and they live on a farm, and her husband's a graphic designer, but he takes care of the farm, and they're three kids, right?
00:59:23.900And she's, like, way up in public service.
00:59:26.860You know, she flies to Washington, D.C., and does all these different things or whatever.
00:59:38.240So, she had to start going to therapy because she missed all of their children's – all three other children's important moments when they were young.
00:59:51.100So, she missed their first word when they took the first step.
00:59:53.720So, he would call – her husband would call her and say, honey, you know, little Billy took his first step and said his first word.
00:59:59.920And she's been going to therapy for a year or two because she feels so much guilt over missing her child's – her children's younger years.
01:00:09.300Like, women have this weird thing where they're just full of – am I going to be a good mom?
01:00:13.640And there's not really any way that – because women think that they're supposed to be the ones there for those moments and not you.
01:00:22.240You're the man because they held it inside their body for nine months.
01:01:21.220But guilt over being a good mom, I mean, how are you going to – that's something that she's – because remember, mothers deify motherhood.
01:01:33.280So, you trying to be a therapist about her feelings of motherhood, it's just going to be a long, slow burn of misery.
01:01:40.260Yeah, I don't – Doug and Pia, I don't think that's what he's saying.
01:09:17.140But I guess what I wanted to ask, since you're so versed in all this, like, you know, relationship chaos, I want to, I guess I want to flesh out in my head, like, the cycle.
01:09:30.480So it's, like, women earn more than men and then because of, you know, or they seek out a career or whatever to climb up this social ladder or whatever, right?
01:09:46.080And then they try to find men up there, right?
01:09:50.140And then eventually they keep climbing and keep climbing until they can't find the men that they want.
01:09:56.440And so, you know, they become these girl bosses, right?
01:10:03.900In order to find the only man that can conquer her, right?
01:10:08.240She's going to try to find who's the true alpha.
01:10:11.940And then she finds that no man really wants to be around the girl boss.
02:16:49.260I like the, the grit, the best profs are the ones when you have the really long hair, because I'm like, I told you before, I'm like into long hair.
02:16:55.260I don't mind the nose ring because the nose ring has something fun with it.
02:18:17.280And I said, he said, Pearl, I understand you're miserable and lonely and have never been in anything approaching a functional, a healthy relationship in your life.
02:18:26.940So I'll try to be patient with you, blah, blah, blah.
02:18:29.920And so then I said, isn't a wife supposed to be a helpmate and not an adversary?
02:18:35.860And he said, Pearl, I understand that you're miserable and lonely and have never been in anything approaching a functioning or healthy relationship in your life.
02:22:33.600They will use any power they can against you.
02:22:36.840Because, once again, women want men who are ambitious and motivated to set their, what they want aside to help them achieve their own selfish desires.
02:22:47.620So, stay away from women who make more money than you.
02:22:50.500Because, you know, I think it's not a matter of if the disrespect comes, a matter of when.
02:22:55.900I think that some, you know, as, as John proved when he called, maybe it works for some people.
02:23:01.620But I think it's a small amount of people.