Modern Women Have All These CHOICES Yet Make Excuses
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Summary
In this episode, we talk about abortion and human rights in general, and the controversial issue of whether or not a fetus is a potential life or not. Is it possible to kill a foetus if it doesn't survive the first nine months of pregnancy? Is it even possible to keep twins alive if they don't survive past that point? Is there a difference between twins and triplets? What is the difference between them and fetuses? And is it possible for twins to be aborted?
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that there is a type of life there but i think it's very strange that we're all considering that
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it will be a guaranteed baby at the end of it so the reason why i consider a fetus especially in
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the earlier stages to be a potential life is because 20 of all pregnancies end in a miscarriage
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anyway but i mean there's also a number of other things that could happen in this span of time um
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and i mean stillbirths is still one in 175 as well if you're particularly unlucky and removing all
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variables though um so for something to be a life uh that we find i guess valuable it makes sense to
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consider viability and certainly an embryo is what do you mean by viability it could breathe
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if it if it can sustain its own system by itself okay and that doesn't and that is not the same
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as the fact that a mother needs to feed it and such i guess though that does get difficult if we
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because we're talking here about what makes a life life and that's actually a pretty
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important legal question later on when we're thinking about human rights violations right
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who gets to have human rights as a you know as a human person uh outside of the womb and if we're
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saying that a human is only a human only deserves the right to life if they're uh conscious conscious
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or if they are uh breathing and supporting their own body on their own without any help from anyone
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that puts in a very difficult situation people who are lying in comas i knew you was going to say
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that it's not the same like it's not the same you're using all of these analogies it's not the same
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okay so what about conjoined twins twins let me hear you okay so twins there's many legal cases
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on this these are twins that have shared organs maybe one of them is using the other one's heart
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they're fully dependent they're linked by their bodies it's a very intimate relationship that
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doesn't just go on for nine months it goes on for the entirety of their lives and yet the law has been
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completely clear if you have a sister that is sharing your heart and that is using your heart
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the law is absolutely clear you cannot kill them even though they're dependent on you they can't
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sustain themselves they're invading your body in a very if you're sharing a heart they would die you'd
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both die that was i mean yeah that's a that's a that's a big big point i mean there are cases
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like you know sharing a liver for example there you know there's a there's some there was born
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like that that's how they that's a however you get separated can you kill one and keep the other
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anyway though that doesn't make sense if one dies both of them dying i think he's talking about
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conjoined no but even if they're conjoined like how is that even a choice like when you have like
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they're still twins yeah you know what i mean no so if you're even thinking about abortion but
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then thinking about twins you would only think about that if you're thinking about getting rid
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of both of them you couldn't make a choice of oh i'm going to get rid of one and keep the other
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anyway even if you never know someone might do that is that even possible it's actually quite common
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yeah we know because the department of health keeps pretty good statistics on abortion and says why
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every single abortion is done and there's actually a pretty substantial nhs website if you look it's
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called selective reduction or multiple pregnancy and quite a few abortions each year are done
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basically because there are too many babies and they have to get rid of some so hold on just based
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on what you said because i i actually understood your point after you made it um what she's saying
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is it true like can you if you've got twins growing in you and you decide to kill one of them
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and can you keep the other twin alive yeah because i actually don't know if you can do that yeah
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it's quite common but then really it's possible that's common no but they damn near make anything
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no but really see this is i see this is why i would i know but that things like that that's
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the reason why i would kind of understand science has really gone up that would be pro-life because
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who would really want to make that decision what kind of person does that if you have twins you have
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twins how can you be like oh but it's still financial it's still financial it could still be
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financial though yeah but then if it's financial don't have a baby no but some people might have
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only planned to have money for one yeah i mean i'm not saying i'm just really shocked i didn't know it's
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scientifically possible when they when they made when they made abortion it was supposed to be like
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safe rare like it wasn't supposed to be like i just think it's gotten ridiculous to the point
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one out of three women are having them it's birth control how many abortions can you even have that's
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another thing as well i want to say i can't remember the exact number but it's roughly 40 of
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women that have had abortions have had two or more so no but is there a cap on it can i'm sure
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they're having nobody you can just damage your body or something i mean i'm pretty sure it must
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definitely have an impact yeah well and and i i've heard stories of girls that have eight nine
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abortions like and that's what i'm saying like it's not even safe and rare anymore it's just women
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making poor decisions so in the 1980s the average woman in romania had eight abortions that was the
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average woman wait in romania romania in the 1980s or maybe 1960s why was there no contraception there
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was no contraception okay well that makes more sense yeah i mean yeah so they they wait there
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was no contraceptions but they could have abortions well there was very limited contraception that doesn't
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make sense either why did they do that and i just think all of these reasons just come to be excuses
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when it's just like we can close our legs we don't have to make children with like these bad guys
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but it's like why can't we start with the women before we go to the men we always talk about men's
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but men are legally responsible if they get a girl pregnant they have to pay child support
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so after after we we both get pregnant that's equally as long as they're working wait listen listen if we
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if we get pregnant it's equally irresponsible right i mean i would argue it's more on the women but
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well for further further well i mean when you think about i know okay think about it we got we got 10
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choices they have condom no condom we know when we ovulate we can get on birth control we can do plan b
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did you know that you can do an abortion adoption we have all these choices the men have one did you know
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that the um contraception pill was actually designed for men originally it was okay but can they take it now
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but the thing is i there is there is isn't there i think men might be pregnant in the future it's
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because men are so you're gonna blame men i think actually that they decided that well you probably
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know better than me that it was better for the women to take it because too many you know like the
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the men didn't want to have all of those no and that study it was like one or two of them died
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i want to say so that was why they had to cut it because some women died as well
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i don't think it's that common i think it's more i think the reason is a bit more commonsensical like
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it's i think it's easier to um to lock off one egg than 100 million sperm i just think that's the
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reason why it's harder to find contraceptive for me no no they made it work it's just that men didn't
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like the side effects the side effects of birth control no but there was it was sterilization and
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one or two people died in that study so that's why they were like way worse than the side effects
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for women suicidality is a side effect for women's birth control when 90 of women are on it i just
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don't think it's that common especially when men commit suicide more so women we need to raise our
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voice women try to commit suicide more women try to commit suicide more but they tend to be less
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successful because they don't pick uh lethal methods well i think so so men are better at suicide than
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us that part is true but if we're on societal arguments that is sort of where my um interest is
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so when it comes to thinking okay so what benefits are there if we ban abortion well theoretically that
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would potentially be more kids that could be a bonus um the birth rate is falling in a lot of
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developed countries but when i think of what the negatives are um it's significantly more in my
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opinion um for women if you start to take away these types of rights they are going to naturally feel
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oppressed um it's going to reduce uh the things that they do they're going to change the behavior
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they're going to be having sex less relationships less and already gen z is having relationships less and
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sex less so it might not necessarily maybe maybe they'll get married maybe i i think marriage rates
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falling as well well well if we ban divorce i think maybe it would go back up that's a whole different
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but if i'm honest sorry i'll just finish my point quickly um i don't think abortion rate will drop i
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think that legal abortions will drop because obviously they won't be available which means more women are
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going to have medical side effects from procuring illegal abortion drugs they're going to be more
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sick women more dying women i think women more women in jail i think women might think twice before
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maybe sleeping with the whole football back alley abortions i think i think one out of three abortions
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is a lot back alley abortions have existed since the dawn of time i understand and you know i think we
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should punish people that get those i think that should be illegal too you know that the prosecution rate
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for all crime in general is pretty abysmal right it's just it's it pays to be a criminal we can we can
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make the can i just say um an unpopular opinion um amongst women uh but i have heard it time and time
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again from men which is you know that breakups are harder for men than it is on women and the reason
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is because women are the ones with the choice so women choose do they sleep with like we have more
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choice we're the so if we say no unless you're graped we say no and that's it men have to beg and
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date and take us and we was and do this and that and we well and we're the only ones that know when
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we're ovulating too you can only get pregnant like five days a month yeah but we also know if we're
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on birth control or not a lot of women lie about it yeah yeah yeah they do they do and we also can
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he can't make you take a plan b so it's like we have all these choices so before i get attacked by
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women and i'm not saying that i'm not saying that like you know do better i'm just saying that i've
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been told from many men and i was thinking yeah you're right they're not like whoever we have slept
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with women we unless it's been some you know a different situation in a normal situation we know
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we're the ones that have said okay okay like come to mind it's always on the woman so the woman has the
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last say in sex and we know when we're on we know when what we're taking we know what we're so it's
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like if you're going to have sex with i mean sorry sex uh if you're gonna sleep with someone and then you
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you uh not on the pill he's not wearing a condom you're not on anything and you still don't go
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and get the morning after pill or you don't whatever you and then go oh i'm pregnant
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like damn i think i'm shocked how did that happen and now i like and now i'm in this situation
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right that's that's what i say it's because we have all of these choices to prevent these things
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like yet we will still say but men when i bring