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- April 12, 2023
Modern Women LOVE TOXIC Men
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Length
8 minutes
Words per Minute
201.90279
Word Count
1,627
Sentence Count
156
Misogynist Sentences
17
Hate Speech Sentences
9
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So I'm curious, have you had, I know the majority of divorces are initiated by women.
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Have you had men initiate divorce?
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Yeah, sometimes.
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What are the typical reasons that men initiate from what you've seen?
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So what I've seen, so sometimes it's adultery.
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Okay.
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Or she gets to, like, she's trying to take charge in the house and start demanding things.
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So she doesn't have to, like, especially if she's educated.
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So she's got a job and she's coming home late.
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And then she can't, she's too tired to it.
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What's the percentage, just roughly, of your experience of men initiate in divorce and women initiate in divorce?
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The percentage, well, I don't know the exact...
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Roughly, just off your experience.
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Because I know the percentage that Pearl's got statistics, but what have you seen in your own experience?
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That men initiate divorce?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Like, roughly.
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The last time we saw it was around, like, 15%.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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That means a statistic spot on there.
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That's how bad it is.
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Yeah.
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But again, English courts, I have to say, it's not, like, straight away.
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It's not as bad as California, I'm going to say, for example.
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How long do you think women want to leave marriages before they do?
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How long?
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Yeah, typically.
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So from as soon as they get married and...
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Yeah, like, they just always say, like, if a girl starts working out and going to the gym, she's leaving your ass.
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I don't know.
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I mean, that's really relative.
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I don't know.
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Maybe, I would say, like, six months.
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Six months.
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To a few years.
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To a few years.
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I have to...
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It sounds really extreme, but if it keeps happening, there's all these patterns.
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It's, yeah.
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Okay.
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So what about you guys' ex...
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Do you guys have ex-girlfriends?
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No, never.
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Never had an ex.
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Really?
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Yeah, no.
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I got a girl now.
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I've never had an ex.
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How long did you go with her?
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Well, we was together 10 years and we split up for three years.
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Then we got back together.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Oh, that's pretty cute.
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Yeah, I have an ex, yeah.
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Does she demonize you?
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Oh, yeah.
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100% she does, yeah.
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I'm not going to get into the details because I'm not here to be emotional or anything like that.
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But it was quite, let's just say, abusive, simply.
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And she loved to demonize me for it.
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And, you know, I had the mindset back then.
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I still do.
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You know, like, if she's dressing, as we'd say, like a slag, then I wouldn't have it.
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And I said to her, like, if you want to dress like that, that's fine.
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But don't, like, don't be with me.
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You know, you've still got your choice.
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I'm not controlling your choice.
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But she'd take that and make me into being controlling.
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But, like, I don't know.
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She'd turn me into the demon.
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And then, um...
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I think what she's doing is gaslighting.
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So, which sadly happens both ways.
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Because I personally have only had one ex.
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And he did exactly that to me for a good two years.
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And it's, it's, it's, it's, it's been literally a life-changing experience.
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And I think what's really sad is that this is literally, like, it doesn't matter what gender.
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There are good people out there who just, you know, we were simple-minded people who just wanted to,
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we were excited to meet someone who we thought we were going to be happy with.
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And these people are, they're so good at manipulating you.
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They love-bomb you.
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They say, oh, my God, I love you.
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I want to have your kids.
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Like, you just fall for them.
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And when they have their clothes in you, boom.
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They start coming in.
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And you're like, where does this come from?
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I think girls like toxic men.
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I agree.
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I agree.
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Yeah.
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I agree.
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I think, like, there's something you're attracted to about it.
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Do you know why?
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Well, I think it's because, like, the same traits the hero has, the villain has, too.
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So, if a dude is very, like, they always say, like, why does that girl stay with their girlfriend?
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Or the, why does the girl stay with the boyfriend that beats her up?
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Well, it's because, like, that aggression that's in the hero is also in the villain.
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You ask any girl, if, when they say, like, they got a crush, a celebrity crush or something,
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I guarantee it's going to be in the villain in the movie.
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They like the bad guys.
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It's just, I'm just...
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Would it be okay if I just make the distinction and the reason why these girls are getting it wrong?
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Yes.
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They, women actually, go look in a romance novel.
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Men like their corn, girls like the books.
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We look very differently, and you can go to a romance novel in a bookstore.
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You can see that girls tend to go for the hunky guys, the vampires, the bad boys, and they change them, right?
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It's all about changing them.
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Now, now, now, now, the important thing is, is that they are actually innately attracted.
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That's what I'm saying.
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Girls start off the feminine energy does want the man.
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They want the masculine, but because they're jaded.
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And then they, they had to...
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What do you mean because they're jaded?
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They want the masculine because they're jaded.
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No, because, because I genuinely feel that they, I'll say this from personal experience.
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Uh-huh.
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I, as a, as a young girl, as well as remembered, like, I, I have a very traditional family.
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My mother stayed at home, took care of the kids.
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My father was the breadwinner.
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For me, that is normal.
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That is what I saw myself, envisioned myself with.
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And, sadly, because times have changed, my, my, my mom started saying, you can't just,
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you know, rely on a guy.
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You've got to also have your craft.
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You, you, you've got to have something to bring to the table.
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So, I agreed.
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I said, yeah, of course.
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So, I went out there.
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I spent the time on myself.
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And I really, like, worked on myself, tried to be a good, you know, like, a good society,
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person in society.
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But the thing is, then, in that journey, I became too masculine, right?
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I overshot.
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And then, I'm starting to give bro vibes.
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And, and then, of course, then these girls are asking, why am I not getting the guy,
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the masculine guy?
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Well, one, you're too masculine.
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I know that because I was there once.
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I had to teach myself.
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I had to remind myself that I need to tone it down.
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There are certain times where that's appropriate, such as when I'm in a more work situation
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and I have to be more decisive.
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But when I'm on a date, I am different.
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I, I want, I want a masculine man.
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I defined, I actually looked at myself and I said, what do I want?
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Do I want a feminine man or do I want a masculine man?
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Why did, why did your mom, why do you think your mom encouraged you to be masculine?
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If it's, it seemed to have worked out well for her.
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She got to provide her husband and like.
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It's very sad, actually.
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We had this conversation and my mom said to me, she said,
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in my times, she said, guys just came up to me all the time.
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Now I will say this.
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My mom's very feminine.
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She's like the damsel in distress.
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So she does attract guys anyways.
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But she was saying like, I would use to walk on the street and I will see great quality
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men everywhere.
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Like, I feel like I can just pick them off the street.
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They're all great.
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But I don't know.
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She said, I don't know what's going on.
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She was like, it makes me really sad, but I feel like guys are not as high caliber anymore.
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And I'm worried for my daughter.
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I'm scared that they're going to not be able to deal with themselves and they don't have
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that person either.
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So, so to compensate, she's pushing me on the other direction of being self-sufficient.
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But the danger of that is that it's over.
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It was overshot.
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I think that's a common problem now.
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So yeah, like you said, your mom's pushing you that way.
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Just to go back on your point that you made before, the fact that you realized you was
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too masculine, that is, that is what men, I think today are asking women to do.
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It's just, for me, I've got female friends that I've got boyfriends and they sometimes
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ask me for advice and I just tell them, look in the mirror.
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And I don't, and I say, look in the mirror.
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And I'm not talking about look at your body, your face.
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I'm saying, look in the mirror and look at the person you're being.
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When you're going to restaurants, like, how are you trying to, you trying to dominate
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the situation when you go to a family gathering, trying to dominate, like, you have to let
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your man be a man and women find a problem with that.
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Do you guys think there's a shortage of husbands or wives?
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Depends on the location, I guess.
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Wives.
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Wives.
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Um, that's an interesting question.
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Um, I'd say, I'd say there's a shortage on husbands because men, like, it's just not
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worth it.
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Like any logical man, which most men, it's safe to say are logical.
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I'd say it just doesn't make sense.
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Oh, because they don't want to get married.
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