JustPearlyThings - June 24, 2023


@ModernLifeDating Said This About Modern Women


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20 minutes

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00:00:00.000 But I actually agree with Pearl's point.
00:00:01.820 I just think the solution to solving all these trauma things
00:00:06.200 is not actually relieving it or talking about it.
00:00:09.620 I think it's actually going out there and doing incremental steps
00:00:13.100 towards actually doing different things in terms of self-improvement.
00:00:17.340 Yes, there's that too.
00:00:18.280 I agree with the solution.
00:00:19.640 So go to the gym, learn how to fight.
00:00:21.660 But you can't poo-poo people's trauma
00:00:23.880 because everybody's got their own trauma
00:00:26.440 and it affects them in their own individual ways.
00:00:29.220 So I think it's the solution.
00:00:31.620 Yeah, I agree.
00:00:32.380 But the solution is still the same.
00:00:33.600 Yeah, it is.
00:00:34.540 But people's trauma is not.
00:00:37.000 I'm also tired of people that aren't really traumatized
00:00:40.300 saying that they're traumatized.
00:00:41.780 Like, okay, that's real.
00:00:43.800 Like, okay, well, you were talking about that.
00:00:45.180 That's a real thing.
00:00:46.060 But it's like these girls will come on.
00:00:48.160 Oh, you got cheated on.
00:00:50.180 So did everybody.
00:00:54.120 Here's another thing too.
00:00:55.260 When it comes to trauma, right?
00:00:56.660 Because that's a fucking new trend.
00:00:58.140 Like the TikTok trauma dump, right?
00:01:00.320 There's a lot of girls because, listen,
00:01:02.740 when you are a traumatized person,
00:01:04.760 you want to be heard.
00:01:06.900 You want people to tell you everything's okay, right?
00:01:09.960 And so these girls vent on TikTok.
00:01:12.900 And what do they do?
00:01:13.760 What happens?
00:01:14.880 They get the dopamine that they need.
00:01:17.440 They get the, what is it?
00:01:19.380 The validation.
00:01:20.560 They get the dopamine validation.
00:01:22.160 And then they're like, fuck it.
00:01:23.420 I'm going to be like fucked up trauma dump girl, right?
00:01:26.140 But that's why, that's why you see these girls.
00:01:27.980 Like when you see the majority of these girls,
00:01:29.320 like fresh and fit, all this shit.
00:01:31.220 And like, they're just so rude.
00:01:32.940 And they can't like stop, like, you know,
00:01:35.520 cutting off the host because why?
00:01:37.520 He says something that triggers her.
00:01:40.380 And then she can't stop that emotional dump
00:01:43.180 and emotional release
00:01:44.120 because she's a traumatized individual.
00:01:45.920 So that's my biggest thing.
00:01:47.780 I am not saying for excuses.
00:01:49.320 How do you know she's not just an asshole?
00:01:51.440 That could be it too.
00:01:52.880 That could be it too.
00:01:54.600 That could be it too.
00:01:55.960 That could, yeah, yeah, that could be it too.
00:01:57.680 We all do like attention.
00:01:59.840 Yeah.
00:02:00.420 For sure.
00:02:01.420 For sure.
00:02:02.980 I'm going to give,
00:02:04.140 I'm going to give a trauma card,
00:02:06.300 like real trauma card,
00:02:07.900 where it only counts.
00:02:10.120 I mean, we can add to this list
00:02:11.420 if you think I'm being,
00:02:12.520 but I only get that final six.
00:02:14.700 This is my show.
00:02:15.920 So I'll give you,
00:02:18.060 I'll give you abuse.
00:02:19.760 You know, that's, that's real.
00:02:21.240 Yeah.
00:02:22.000 Essay for sure.
00:02:23.240 Essay.
00:02:23.860 Yeah.
00:02:25.680 And witnessing a very horrific crime.
00:02:28.800 I'll give you those, those three.
00:02:31.340 Okay.
00:02:32.080 Does verbal abuse count in that?
00:02:34.360 Domestic abuse?
00:02:35.720 Yeah.
00:02:36.260 Because we were talking about fat shaming.
00:02:37.960 It's physical.
00:02:38.240 And that's verbal abuse.
00:02:40.080 I think the way that verbal abuse is used nowadays,
00:02:44.180 no,
00:02:44.580 because the way women use verbal abuse is very soft.
00:02:49.900 Yeah.
00:02:50.540 Yes.
00:02:51.160 I agree.
00:02:52.140 She's like,
00:02:52.600 she's like,
00:02:53.380 I agree,
00:02:53.840 but it's hard.
00:02:54.380 That's my opinion.
00:02:59.260 The way,
00:02:59.700 the way most people use abuse today,
00:03:03.060 but real abuse,
00:03:04.700 but that,
00:03:05.100 but that goes back to the,
00:03:06.740 like,
00:03:06.960 that's what I said in the beginning.
00:03:07.920 I said assault or something like being hit,
00:03:10.100 being,
00:03:10.360 being abused actually,
00:03:11.700 but,
00:03:12.100 and you know,
00:03:14.440 verbally abusing a child,
00:03:20.880 like as a kid,
00:03:21.700 I think that's,
00:03:22.680 but if it's in a relationship,
00:03:23.920 you're allowed to break up.
00:03:25.620 So,
00:03:25.700 yeah,
00:03:25.880 no,
00:03:26.080 the verbal abuse from a child is strong because,
00:03:28.780 you know,
00:03:28.880 when you have these,
00:03:29.560 these positions of authority,
00:03:31.180 you're like,
00:03:32.300 for example,
00:03:32.660 I'll use my example of my aunt,
00:03:33.920 right?
00:03:34.060 She used to tell me like,
00:03:35.520 you are going to burn in the lake of fire forever because you're a bad little kid.
00:03:40.860 And I was like nine,
00:03:42.380 10.
00:03:42.740 I was like,
00:03:43.040 bitch,
00:03:43.480 what are you talking about?
00:03:44.820 Like,
00:03:45.140 what did I do?
00:03:47.340 But your mom seems great though.
00:03:49.460 So I'm sure she said,
00:03:50.620 it's,
00:03:51.040 she's great now,
00:03:52.080 but we had to overcome a lot.
00:03:54.020 Okay.
00:03:54.600 Yeah.
00:03:54.760 She beat the fuck out of me.
00:03:55.800 She's from Trinidad.
00:03:56.620 So she beat me like fucking like no other,
00:03:59.960 you know?
00:04:01.180 Can Trin would be like getting hit as a kid?
00:04:04.040 Yeah.
00:04:04.240 Because,
00:04:04.520 because it spikes your,
00:04:06.320 it spikes your,
00:04:07.820 uh,
00:04:08.420 stress reaction points in your brain when you're being viciously beaten.
00:04:12.460 So,
00:04:13.300 but it's,
00:04:13.780 and it's another thing too,
00:04:14.520 if you're being beaten,
00:04:15.460 it's one thing,
00:04:16.380 but if you're being beaten and then on top of that,
00:04:19.000 there's emotional abuse,
00:04:20.020 like your little fucking shit,
00:04:21.560 you're a piece of garbage,
00:04:22.500 whatever.
00:04:23.400 Like I do,
00:04:24.160 I do think.
00:04:24.740 Someone in the chat,
00:04:25.520 this is a hundred dollars super chat.
00:04:27.100 Thane,
00:04:27.340 Thane is back.
00:04:28.320 You know,
00:04:28.600 we missed Thane.
00:04:29.240 We're just going to do it.
00:04:30.100 Thane.
00:04:31.420 Uh,
00:04:31.660 Western,
00:04:32.220 he says,
00:04:32.680 Westerners crutch his trauma.
00:04:35.740 Westerners.
00:04:36.900 What does he mean by that?
00:04:37.980 The crutch is holding onto it.
00:04:39.100 It's just like,
00:04:39.680 okay.
00:04:41.960 You know,
00:04:42.620 like beating a kid to the point of blood.
00:04:44.320 Okay.
00:04:44.600 Okay.
00:04:44.960 But like,
00:04:45.320 sometimes it's like my mom beat me with a spoon.
00:04:48.340 Yeah,
00:04:48.640 I got the spoon.
00:04:49.180 The wooden spoon.
00:04:49.600 I got that too.
00:04:50.540 I was swearing.
00:04:51.840 I literally,
00:04:52.720 my dad,
00:04:53.760 when I was about 10 years old,
00:04:55.400 would,
00:04:55.580 I would run underneath the,
00:04:58.200 the dining table and living room.
00:05:00.740 And then I would,
00:05:01.720 I'll go,
00:05:02.060 ha ha,
00:05:02.320 you can't get me.
00:05:02.920 And I would literally run to his bedroom,
00:05:04.860 try and lock the door.
00:05:06.200 He got in and I got soap all in my mouth.
00:05:09.180 Okay.
00:05:09.280 But imagine,
00:05:09.980 imagine if like a therapist comes in and says,
00:05:12.060 let's relive this trauma.
00:05:14.180 Let's relive.
00:05:14.920 I don't know what's said in my mouth.
00:05:15.920 No,
00:05:15.940 but that's what they do is they start to,
00:05:17.560 they start to like convince you that you're trying.
00:05:20.380 Yeah.
00:05:20.760 I,
00:05:21.000 I did,
00:05:21.780 I did a couple therapy sessions and I just got so irritated.
00:05:24.820 But Pearl,
00:05:25.280 so I want to push back for you.
00:05:27.060 And so you were disciplined by your mother,
00:05:29.640 right?
00:05:30.260 But you were also,
00:05:31.240 and King,
00:05:31.680 you too,
00:05:32.040 right?
00:05:32.220 You were disciplined by your parents,
00:05:33.360 but you were also loved by them,
00:05:36.080 right?
00:05:36.440 A lot of these situations,
00:05:37.980 it's just every day,
00:05:39.420 come home and take it out on the kids,
00:05:41.660 take it out on the wife.
00:05:42.820 Yeah.
00:05:43.140 And these,
00:05:43.680 I agree.
00:05:43.960 I think that's a minority of the situations.
00:05:46.660 I think most parents would discipline and love their kids.
00:05:49.760 Yeah.
00:05:50.000 Yeah.
00:05:50.160 Yeah.
00:05:50.280 But I'm talking about my situation and the traumatized situations,
00:05:53.760 which are the rarer situations because yeah,
00:05:56.740 because your parents typically,
00:05:58.380 the average parent is not just going to beat your fucking ass because if they
00:06:02.400 have a conscious,
00:06:03.080 they're going to feel bad.
00:06:03.920 They're like,
00:06:04.060 Oh,
00:06:04.260 I beat your ass,
00:06:04.880 but like here's some ice cream.
00:06:05.740 I just noticed whenever there's like criticism of a person or like you kind of
00:06:09.820 have to look in the mirror.
00:06:10.900 A lot of people just use,
00:06:12.100 like they blame it on the trauma instead of the person.
00:06:14.640 And I think that's what King's getting at.
00:06:16.560 Yeah.
00:06:16.800 There's a lot of times it just becomes like an excuse.
00:06:18.940 Yeah.
00:06:19.520 I agree with that.
00:06:20.660 But in the,
00:06:22.600 you're talking about the majority,
00:06:24.200 which is right.
00:06:24.820 But in the minority,
00:06:26.360 it's not always the case.
00:06:27.520 But in all cases,
00:06:28.180 isn't it that the abuse or the trauma may not be your fault,
00:06:31.480 but your healing is your responsibility.
00:06:32.900 Once you get to an age of like,
00:06:36.260 you know,
00:06:36.600 sentience and you're,
00:06:37.440 you decide whether it affects you or not.
00:06:39.420 Absolutely.
00:06:39.940 Well,
00:06:40.020 not just if it affects you,
00:06:41.320 but you know,
00:06:41.880 even if it does,
00:06:42.780 or even if it's like suppressed,
00:06:44.400 it's how you deal with it.
00:06:45.300 Did you guys know that,
00:06:46.340 I don't remember during what period,
00:06:48.280 but 10% of our ancestors were murdered.
00:06:51.040 What?
00:06:51.440 10%.
00:06:52.300 Yeah.
00:06:52.640 Yeah.
00:06:52.860 Of his ancestors.
00:06:54.560 Everybody's.
00:06:55.000 It was like during an early pro,
00:06:56.940 like I'm,
00:06:57.440 I'm butchering it,
00:06:58.380 but I talked to a guy who wrote the book,
00:07:01.700 the history of sex about it.
00:07:03.420 And he talks about how like in our early ancestors,
00:07:05.860 10% were murdered.
00:07:07.400 So it's like,
00:07:08.120 I'm like,
00:07:08.520 if people made it back then,
00:07:10.640 you know,
00:07:10.880 what are we complaining about now?
00:07:12.240 Yeah.
00:07:12.720 Yeah.
00:07:13.180 Can you imagine 10% of the people,
00:07:15.220 you know,
00:07:15.540 dying?
00:07:16.380 Yeah,
00:07:16.600 we are.
00:07:17.360 Yeah.
00:07:20.620 Okay.
00:07:21.060 Wait,
00:07:22.160 I want to do the,
00:07:26.220 I think I'm going to do the,
00:07:28.380 the Paulina part going back to the body part.
00:07:31.520 No,
00:07:31.660 it's not a video,
00:07:32.420 but you can show the,
00:07:33.640 did you get the article King?
00:07:35.180 I sent you.
00:07:35.740 I just want the picture.
00:07:36.820 So this is,
00:07:37.820 I actually don't even notice her last name.
00:07:41.180 Paulina Poris.
00:07:43.160 So poor is,
00:07:44.600 is Kova who used to be like a model back in the day.
00:07:48.780 Okay.
00:07:50.160 This supermodel feels sexier than ever and wants other women to embrace the aging pop process.
00:07:56.520 Paulina is tired of dealing with men who think she should simply fade in the background
00:08:01.660 just because she's in her fifties.
00:08:03.780 This supermodel has been outspoken with her criticism of the industry in recent years
00:08:09.120 and has suggested that women over a certain age are treated like they're invisible.
00:08:13.920 And it's a topic she elaborates on in great detail in the interview with the New York Times.
00:08:20.580 I am now completely invisible.
00:08:22.660 She told the publication.
00:08:24.340 I walk into a party.
00:08:25.420 I flirt with guys and they will just walk away from me mid sentence to pursue someone 20 years younger.
00:08:31.200 I'm very single.
00:08:32.540 I'm dressed up.
00:08:33.220 I've made an effort.
00:08:34.400 Nothing.
00:08:34.780 The 56 year old describes how she began to feel invisible when she meets middle aged and called it a slow fade.
00:08:43.440 Like the boiled frog, you don't know what you got until you're, until you're gone.
00:08:48.740 It's around the same time my marriage fell apart.
00:08:51.080 My husband was no longer interested in me.
00:08:53.000 And I started looking around and I realized I was invisible to the population at large.
00:08:58.220 It made me feel terrible about myself.
00:09:00.540 This week, she also shared the message for those who had taken to social media to say she should be invisible at her age.
00:09:07.580 I'd like to thank all the men who are now on my feed trolling me that I should be invisible at my age.
00:09:14.840 You're proving my point.
00:09:16.280 In a form of rebellion, she has been posting sexy photos of herself in bikinis, nudes, and without makeup.
00:09:23.700 And some of the comments from men aren't kind.
00:09:25.860 I started posting this kind of pictures that have been taken of me since I was 15, she told the Times.
00:09:34.000 I look good.
00:09:34.860 I didn't realize it would be shocking for a 50 something year old woman to pose in bikinis from 30 years ago that still fit.
00:09:42.980 It's okay to Google someone who could be your daughter, but not mature women who know themselves and are most likely way better at sex.
00:09:54.940 In her interview, she said she feels sexier than when she did when she was younger, and she often intimidates men.
00:10:01.540 I am not fluttery, vulnerable creature.
00:10:04.020 I am an active participant and investigator.
00:10:06.680 I know what I like and how I work.
00:10:08.800 I like to have fun, and I know what I'm doing, she said.
00:10:11.760 That makes them run away.
00:10:13.200 There's another picture if you scroll down, King.
00:10:14.940 She said on the record, she who is on the record as never having filed, jobbed, or Botoxed her face, according to the Times, she can see why many women turn to plastic surgery.
00:10:29.240 That when a woman gets of these certain cosmetic procedures, she's actually servicing exactly what you're trying to oppose.
00:10:39.740 We need to stand up and insist on not being invisible, she says.
00:10:44.160 I wish there were more women who left their marionette lines, which are the lines that run from the corner of your mouths, forehead lines, and crow's feet.
00:10:53.180 I wish there was more women who dared to age.
00:10:56.420 And recently, the Ladies of Sex and the City reboot and Just Like That have highlighted the topic of women aging in public.
00:11:03.440 It was far from a regular life.
00:11:06.700 I would feel fine.
00:11:07.500 I would feel great.
00:11:08.240 I'm healthy.
00:11:08.900 I'm strong.
00:11:09.620 I've got this three-year-old son, and I carry him around, and I'm all good.
00:11:12.520 But no, I'm on television where every bit of my physical being is being analyzed.
00:11:18.060 The part was always stressful and difficult for me because as much as I can look back and think, oh, I looked great then, you can never think that at the time.
00:11:28.280 I guess no one does.
00:11:29.540 And then co-host, Sarah Jessica Parker, so that's her on there too, who plays the framed Carrie Bradshaw, responded to the misogynistic chatter about her and her fellow classmates in an interview with Vogue last year.
00:11:43.580 There's so much chatter in response to us that would never happen about men.
00:11:47.980 It almost makes people feel, it almost feels as if people don't want us to be perfectly okay with who we are.
00:11:54.260 And as if they almost enjoy us being painted by who we are today, whether we choose to age naturally and not look perfect or whether you choose to do something that makes you feel better, she added.
00:12:07.900 She said in her interview with The Times that the public still has a ways to go when it comes to its perception of beauty.
00:12:13.560 So, first question, should older women dress and move like younger women?
00:12:21.580 I think everyone has the right to do what they want.
00:12:25.260 No, we're not talking about the right, we're saying should.
00:12:28.520 I think she's just coping.
00:12:30.020 That was the longest cope I've ever read in my life.
00:12:32.460 That was the longest cope.
00:12:33.740 Do what you want to do to feel that way, but not everyone wants to see that because you may feel sexy, but not everyone wants to see it.
00:12:41.420 Yeah, people want to deny reality, like guys get old too, women get old, grow the fuck up.
00:12:48.400 You're going to be old, you're going to be ugly, one day you're going to be old and horny and no one's going to fuck you.
00:12:54.220 Unless it's still a part of the last time.
00:12:56.580 Do you know what's crazy?
00:12:57.900 All of the stuff she's complaining about, she was a model.
00:13:01.020 She benefited from being young and beautiful.
00:13:04.320 And now that you're old, you're complaining about it.
00:13:09.580 But the problem is these women are supposed to be married.
00:13:13.900 Nobody cared about women aging in public if they weren't acting like teenagers.
00:13:18.600 Because she should be a grandmother by now.
00:13:20.260 Correct, Madonna's out here naked on the internet.
00:13:23.600 Chelsea Handler's putting her boobs out there.
00:13:26.340 But it's embarrassing to have women in their 50s and 60s moving like this.
00:13:32.220 Get married, get a husband, get out of the dating market.
00:13:35.640 And that's the problem because the majority of these girls, what they're doing is they've been sleeping around, you're not locking someone down, and then, you know, father time comes knocking and he takes your youth and you're like, shit, I'm old, nobody likes me.
00:13:50.220 And all I have is like a bunch of memories, a bunch of dicks I've sucked.
00:13:53.200 Fane says, the wall is undefeated.
00:14:00.500 All I can hear from a narcissist is, whoa, I need attention.
00:14:04.600 Yeah.
00:14:04.820 A question, do you guys know what the wall is?
00:14:07.560 No.
00:14:08.880 It's a slang.
00:14:09.880 It's a slang in our corner of the internet.
00:14:12.100 What's the wall?
00:14:12.940 What is that?
00:14:13.320 How would you, because I would say the wall is basically.
00:14:15.800 When you hit a brick wall.
00:14:16.720 No, it's basically women around the age of like 27 to 31, where essentially they're not as hot as they were 10 years ago.
00:14:23.980 You hit a wall of physical attractiveness that stops.
00:14:29.020 Like, you know, I would just argue it, if I were to be nice, I would say up to 29.
00:14:35.760 You know, because every girl, when she turns 30, she cries, gets depressed, you know?
00:14:40.120 So that's what these, like, guys on the internet say, like, the wall is when you're like, boom, I'm just, my physical attractiveness is now at this point where it's going to start declining.
00:14:50.240 And you girls know, that's why you, like, sometimes you see these older women and there's, like, a young girl around her and the old woman is, like, a total bitch to her.
00:14:56.780 Or women.
00:14:57.420 Because she's salty.
00:14:58.360 You see how Pam's laughing?
00:14:59.920 Or women on the show, they're like, well, do I have to say my age?
00:15:03.280 I'm like, yes!
00:15:04.780 Yeah.
00:15:05.280 I think I'm proud to be the age that I am.
00:15:08.820 Yeah, me too.
00:15:09.340 For sure, for sure, for sure.
00:15:11.560 But if I didn't look good for my age, I wouldn't.
00:15:15.180 But that's, that's, Kevin Samuels had a quote that was, like, women talk about the things they're proud of.
00:15:20.740 Yeah.
00:15:21.020 Like, and so it's, like, if she's not proud, if she won't tell you, that means she's not proud of it.
00:15:25.660 I agree, I agree.
00:15:27.140 Because it also boosts our self-esteem.
00:15:28.340 Yeah.
00:15:28.460 Yeah.
00:15:29.080 So, yeah, I totally agree with you.
00:15:31.400 For those women that, unfortunately, don't age well and whatever, you would, you would have that mindset.
00:15:37.460 Yeah, that's what some of these guys say.
00:15:39.060 Like, well, because some of these guys don't get sex.
00:15:40.880 And so they're just like, well, the wall is going to hit her and it's going to be vicious and whatever.
00:15:45.100 But it's true.
00:15:45.680 And then, so what happens is, like, these women, like this example, we call them post-wall women.
00:15:53.280 Right?
00:15:53.600 So these post-wall women get really salty when, and then you'll see this often.
00:15:59.960 They'll be like, well, you know, like, for example, Al Pacino, I think he's, like, 82, 83.
00:16:03.220 And his girlfriend's, like, 29.
00:16:04.220 And his girlfriend's, like, 29.
00:16:04.980 Right?
00:16:05.280 Yeah.
00:16:05.560 She's about to hit the wall.
00:16:07.240 And so she got, she got that baby in, you know, she got that baby in.
00:16:12.640 But a lot of guys would, you'll see a lot of these post-wall women shaming men for wanting younger women.
00:16:19.300 But when she was a younger woman, she was like, wait a minute, you should go have sex with this old lady over here.
00:16:24.400 No, but it's just that, it's that female self-centeredness.
00:16:28.060 It's like, oh, is it not the consequences of my own decisions?
00:16:31.980 Right.
00:16:32.320 Yeah.
00:16:32.420 Like, and, and that's the, that's the thing.
00:16:35.460 Nobody feels bad.
00:16:36.840 Like, I just can't even believe this got an article.
00:16:39.960 Like, oh, I got rejected by men.
00:16:43.040 Imagine if men came forward and said, I want an article for getting rejected by women.
00:16:48.540 The internet would break.
00:16:50.160 Well, men don't need articles, do they?
00:16:52.160 Because the violence against women, some people would argue, is evidence of men being rejected when women are great or SA'd.
00:16:59.900 These are the consequences of desirable women rejecting men who are not desirable to women.
00:17:06.200 But it doesn't even get to that level.
00:17:07.540 Like Sophie was saying earlier, like, oh, five foot five.
00:17:09.680 I don't even like, look, those aren't even humans to me.
00:17:11.780 I don't even recognize these people.
00:17:15.060 That's a form of rejection, too.
00:17:17.780 And the other thing that we don't, we don't really talk about is that, like, most abuse is mutual, meaning both parties are hitting each other.
00:17:25.880 So, like, and when it comes to one-sided abuse, you know, there's some studies that have come out that say women hit men more than men hit women.
00:17:32.980 They always hit first, at least in my experience.
00:17:34.980 Yeah, and so, and so, like, we have this, like, we have this, you know, image that women are just the victims and they're never the aggressors.
00:17:42.740 And a lot of times the women start.
00:17:44.500 I agree.
00:17:44.660 But abuse is very different.
00:17:46.620 Aren't we talking cross purposes?
00:17:47.900 Because abuse is prolonged and it tends to be quite intimate, right?
00:17:51.160 But if I'm talking about grape and SA, it's like, if an attractive woman to walk down the street tonight and she receives advances from a man and she says that she's not interested,
00:18:01.400 the likelihood of her receiving physical violent backlash for that rejection, for that rejection, is very, it's high, A, and B, it is high, it is high, it is high, it is high.
00:18:15.280 If you look at the nuances, it is contoured, it is contoured and it is nuanced, but generally speaking, how many women are graping men on the street after rejection?
00:18:24.460 That's not true.
00:18:25.680 Most abuse that happens comes from people that you know, not from strangers.
00:18:29.600 I'm not talking about abuse.
00:18:30.780 Abuse and the things that I'm talking about are very different.
00:18:33.260 You're more likely to get gripped by someone you know, not a stranger.
00:18:35.860 Yeah, that's what he's saying.
00:18:36.920 Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
00:18:37.840 So if you're talking on stats, you're misrepresenting it.
00:18:40.500 But that's absolutely fine.
00:18:41.580 And the stats we don't need to dig into because we're talking about, but we're talking about a very specific thing, though, aren't we?
00:18:47.140 We're talking about men and women and the rejection.
00:18:50.080 That's not common.
00:18:50.920 But we're talking about this woman who has aged and is post-war and she's no longer desirable.
00:18:57.300 Okay.
00:18:57.580 Fine.
00:18:58.220 But I'm saying that if a man were to, like, give advances to a woman and she were to reject him, he is able to, and in many cases, right, there are loads of reported cases of men lashing out at women sexually, violently, for said rejection.
00:19:15.360 This isn't common, though.
00:19:16.680 It's not about whether it's common.
00:19:18.280 It's that it happens.
00:19:19.420 Yeah, but, okay, you're painting a whole picture of men based on something that happens to a small percentage.
00:19:26.120 Yeah.
00:19:26.360 Like, that's like me saying, okay, all women are gold diggers because, you know, 3% are, like, 3% marry rich or whatever it is.
00:19:34.140 Well, that's been a sentiment that has been said on this podcast, right, about women wanting men who earn a certain or in a tax bracket.
00:19:40.660 Because women typically, if you ask women what they want, they typically want men that earn more.
00:19:44.960 That's true.
00:19:46.520 And so...
00:19:46.820 You're not wrong, pal.
00:19:48.200 You're not wrong.
00:19:48.480 I wouldn't disagree.
00:19:50.400 And men typically are not trying to go out and rape women or gripe women.
00:19:53.940 So that's the problem.
00:19:55.320 I haven't said that they are trying to, but it's a consequence of rejection in cases.
00:19:59.520 No, but the analogy is that women typically want richer men.
00:20:03.040 Yeah.
00:20:03.180 But men typically don't want to go and harm women.
00:20:06.060 They don't, but they don't want to be rejected, especially publicly, because that's about male ego.
00:20:10.760 We're talking about female ego with this woman who's post-war, and her ego has led her to, like, put all of her stuff on show.
00:20:16.780 And we're saying that no one wants to see that.
00:20:18.320 That's a consequence of her being rejected.
00:20:20.460 But I'm saying on the other side of things, a consequence of men being rejected is often violence against women.
00:20:26.820 And albeit the circumstances are different.
00:20:28.540 The circumstances are different because it's not public.
00:20:30.500 It's not often.
00:20:31.160 It's not often.