00:00:00.000not just to you guys personally but the fat in general it's not are you blaming other people
00:00:04.880for calling you guys out or do you want to take some personal responsibility and say hey it's on
00:00:09.560me to lose weight i'll take on i'm not delusional if someone says you're big you're unhealthy i'm
00:00:16.020like i just tell them look man i try and i'm unhealthy and it is what it is and that's why
00:00:21.640i say kindness matters so much because you can actually be you can influence someone to lose
00:00:28.180weight just by being kind and the reason i just think but i think that was true then we would
00:00:35.800see more body positive people lose i'm sorry gyms are scary do you know what gyms do big muscle men
00:00:42.140and skinny withy men that exercise and they're fast and they can probably poke you they actually laugh
00:00:49.880that they actually laugh they take the piece but really when you're in the gym you're meant to be
00:00:54.580like yeah come on you can do it and not actually make someone a certain way you want to hear some
00:00:59.260ask a skill will actually tell you something worse than a human you know that sorry a skill will tell
00:01:03.640you something worse than a human like saying numbers don't lie your numbers don't lie a skill will
00:01:09.300speak will speak more like please turn to you than a human but you know i'm not saying like again
00:01:16.680i'm not promoting eating unhealthy i'm promoting don't exercise wouldn't you say if someone says
00:01:21.460you're fat it's the same thing as if you're tall it's just a fact pearl it's true i don't want to
00:01:27.500get too personal but i do have health issues and that's why i that's why to encourage myself i do the
00:01:33.080tick tock dancing i actually go out i'm active i i went surfing in cornwall i um went recycling and
00:01:41.500plastic i actually do no that's my way of exercise because when i go to the gym and when i put too much
00:01:47.920i have other issues and my body hurts and and my obesity is starting from childhood i got you three
00:01:53.240trainers right here that can go through everything do you spend money to do these things you have
00:01:57.340to spend money to go cornwall okay all right for a tree for a train spend money for uh surfing my
00:02:03.000issue started is the same way you could spend money on uh nutrition one one day i will share my story
00:02:09.160but my my i've a lot of things like just and i was unfortunate within life and that's why i always
00:02:16.640live a positive life and i tell people be healthy eat healthy exercise and i and i will share my story
00:02:23.640one day but that's the thing i don't want to be a story i don't want to be that person he's big and now
00:02:29.160he's talking about this he's talking about that no i'm not going to be that person because that's what
00:02:34.400people think that's what people think a plus-sized man is they're just basically there for there but
00:02:40.500no i actually want to push myself i've got that push in life and that's what i'm doing and and along
00:02:47.200with that push because it was so hard all my life that's why i spread love and positivity because
00:02:53.540people were just damn right nasty can you can you say though can you say though conversations like
00:02:59.260this are probably better than the positive body positivity movement isn't it but like i said when
00:03:04.540i talk about body positivity i say it's about accepting yourself finish this sentence no i was
00:03:09.600just saying it wouldn't you say talking openly about it is better than not just saying hey now i'm happy
00:03:16.100and comfortable with my own way and i'm positive i need to protect my mindset but actually having
00:03:20.420we're civil we get a long sugar puff i'm like we're not going at each other everything's all friendly
00:03:25.300enjoying listening because educational isn't that isn't that better than the body positivity movement
00:03:30.900do you know what it's just i see when i look at the pearl well sorry i need to remember your name
00:03:37.720john john when i look at people i look into their eyes and easy i look at their face expressions
00:03:46.200and sometimes i see people and i see and it's with any size or any shape or anybody i see sometimes i
00:03:55.060see people have had a hard life and they're trying to keep it going and they smile and that's why i
00:04:01.500don't see people in their way or the way they look because people have more to them and the thing is
00:04:07.320i'm all about like i don't think you're answering his question though no but that's no okay the reason
00:04:13.300the way i'm answering it is what i'm saying is i see people's soul and that's why for me weight
00:04:18.940whether you're skinny fat small i don't i literally see people's soul and the worst and and and the crazy
00:04:24.960thing is i'm usually right like i can i can look at someone and that's why sometimes when i know people
00:04:31.980have when i know when i can tell people have just they go through stuff every day day to day i'm not
00:04:39.100gonna lie that that's what makes me laugh that's what makes me happy because i want to encourage
00:04:42.460but what conversations more productive i think that for us this is a productive conversation so
00:04:48.600we're three people that have come here we know what the topic is we know what we're talking about
00:04:52.120and we're willing to sit here on a challenge with a million subscribers and talk about it i think most
00:04:57.020fat people wouldn't do that you know i don't think i don't think a lot of people even plus size
00:05:01.920models i know personally would not be comfortable to sit here and defend the body positivity movement
00:05:06.380and so it's easy for me to say well yeah this is a great conversation we're going on really well
00:05:10.260but do i think that this would make some of my fat friends break down and cry because they don't
00:05:13.980want to acknowledge the fact that um they're having a terrible time but maybe maybe they'll cry
00:05:19.280and then start to lose weight sometimes it starts i'm telling you
00:05:23.840you brought up edelle earlier let me tell you edelle went through a breakup she did not eat that's how sad
00:05:31.400she lost weight all right all right all right i i i think it could be the first step you know i i'm
00:05:38.760serious when the guys at my work they had this conversation about how women over 200 whatever
00:05:44.340were so fat i went in the bathroom and i cried and then i ran a marathon and then i lost
00:05:49.200that's great yeah and i i just think like instead of getting emotional about it we should think about
00:05:55.740solutions but perl and i'm going to say different people have different mechanisms i'm just going to say i'm not going to lose sleep if someone is crying
00:06:03.300uh when people are just telling the truth if perl is saying it helps it doesn't matter like you can't just
00:06:10.180not say what you want to say because you're scared you're going to hurt someone's feelings
00:06:14.080you know at the end of the day if it's the truth and someone is on the way to where it's unhealthy
00:06:18.700they've got to deal with the reality you can't just say oh let's just protect them
00:06:21.660guys it's just why people have different coping mechanisms as well please understand
00:06:26.520like let them go would you rather your friend tell you or would you rather a scale tell you
00:06:31.460i'd rather my scale and my friend tell me so i know to actually try actively be active