JustPearlyThings - October 23, 2023


Obese Man Keeps Interrupting Pearl

Topics
fat shaming nutrition education
Hosted by
Hannah Pearl Davis
Mentioned
Pearl Faha
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Episode Stats


Length

10 minutes

Words per minute

198.91

Word count

2,185

Sentence count

264

Harmful content

Misogyny

7

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Toxicity

21

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Hate speech

8

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Summary

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In this episode, we discuss sugar addiction, fat shaming, and why we should all be eating more than we do. We also discuss whether or not fat shaming is a good or bad thing, and what we should do about it.

Transcript

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00:00:00.400 When people juice, what do you think they juice?
00:00:03.540 Of course they'll get a fruit and juice it.
00:00:05.500 That's what I meant.
00:00:06.360 It's literally a fruit.
00:00:07.840 They thought you were talking about the juices that you buy in...
00:00:10.900 Yeah, they're like...
00:00:11.380 Like St. Grace, you're doing raw juice.
00:00:13.520 That is the best way.
00:00:14.340 Raw juice is what I meant.
00:00:15.520 It's so funny, right?
00:00:15.740 When you buy those fruit juices, they're like 70% fruit juice. 0.97
00:00:18.460 Like, what the fuck's the other 30%? 1.00
00:00:20.840 This is not what I signed up for. 0.99
00:00:22.680 I have a question.
00:00:23.740 I have a question.
00:00:24.240 Next question.
00:00:25.140 Do you guys think fat shaming can be a good thing?
00:00:28.140 For me, yeah.
00:00:28.700 No.
00:00:29.080 No.
00:00:29.380 No, definitely no.
00:00:30.240 So, me personally...
00:00:30.820 Me personally, I was fat shamed.
00:00:32.540 Wait, wait, let me finish.
00:00:33.120 Let me finish, guys.
00:00:34.200 So, do you guys think fat shaming can be a good thing?
00:00:37.800 No.
00:00:38.560 Wait.
00:00:38.940 Sorry, sorry, sorry.
00:00:39.720 Sorry, sorry.
00:00:40.820 I apologize, Pearl.
00:00:42.320 I apologize.
00:00:42.680 Do you think that fat shaming can be a good thing?
00:00:45.620 For me personally, it motivated me to lose weight.
00:00:49.400 I think it was a great thing for me, and I'm very thankful for it.
00:00:52.660 But other people have different opinions, so I...
00:00:57.240 You didn't interrupt me, so you get to go first.
00:00:58.900 Yes, go ahead.
00:00:59.900 So, I can remember some years ago where my mother tapped me on my shoulder, and she said,
00:01:09.680 Pam, you're just a little bit too big.
00:01:13.080 And at the time, I can remember feeling like, oh, I felt really sad, but it was truth, and I needed to hear that.
00:01:22.420 Yeah.
00:01:22.600 And it was shortly after I'd had, I think, my third baby, but I kept with the habits, so I had really bad habits.
00:01:32.120 And looking back now, at the time, I was quite offended by that, and I was upset.
00:01:37.640 What are those habits, if you don't mind me asking?
00:01:39.640 So, just the eating of lots of chocolate, I had a sweet tooth, that was my issue.
00:01:45.560 And also, there was chocolates, and there was gato cakes, and there was...
00:01:50.960 I used to have, when I was a kid, I used to have club biscuits underneath my pillow.
00:01:54.460 And whenever I was in a particular type of mood, because it has, it's catch-22, because you need the sugar, because it's now controlling your mood.
00:02:02.020 It's dictating your mood.
00:02:04.320 Did you grow up poor?
00:02:05.380 Yeah, pretty much.
00:02:06.200 Me too.
00:02:06.520 So, therefore, I had, there was, we didn't have a variation of foods around.
00:02:11.540 Food was just like, it was like money.
00:02:13.080 You're just like, yeah, I got food.
00:02:14.440 It was whatever it was.
00:02:15.300 And so, for me, it was, for me to be able to have the sweets, whatever it was that I was getting, sugar, is what I felt I needed.
00:02:21.820 So, that became a habit, and I took that habit into adulthood.
00:02:25.580 So, when my mom, who was the first person to come and say to me, Pam, you're a little bit too big, you know, because even the father of my children, he used to bring me chocolates.
00:02:37.360 That was a way to shut me up.
00:02:39.240 Bring me the chocolates, and I'll eat them, and then everybody's happy in the house.
00:02:44.060 But, again, that became a habit.
00:02:45.620 So, even now, even though I've had a tummy tuck and I've had lipo, if I'm feeling a particular way, there are times when I will, you know, I wouldn't so much get the ferro rocher, but I might have a healthier chocolate or, you know, a dark chocolate, perhaps, but I need to have that sugar fix.
00:03:01.560 And I think that now, we can still have those types of behaviors.
00:03:07.940 They can still linger about, even when, you know, you might look good, but, again, are you healthy?
00:03:13.720 Dude, sugar is way more addicting.
00:03:17.720 Sugar's more addicting than cocaine.
00:03:19.540 Do you know that?
00:03:20.380 It's a killer, isn't it?
00:03:20.920 Do you know that?
00:03:21.520 I believe it.
00:03:22.000 Do you know that?
00:03:22.700 Yeah, I do that.
00:03:23.280 I know you've never done cocaine, Pearl, but I've been to Columbia a couple times.
00:03:29.800 Let me tell you something.
00:03:30.840 It's crazy how addictive sugar is.
00:03:35.600 Isn't it the biggest killer?
00:03:36.580 And it's honestly, in the United States, sugar's in everything.
00:03:40.900 It's in, you know, it's in bread.
00:03:42.480 In the States, it's high-fructose syrup is in the bread.
00:03:45.520 There's sugar in every single thing in the States.
00:03:48.480 And that's the main reason why so many people are fat in the States, because everything has sugar in it. 0.87
00:03:55.440 The salad dressing has sugar in it.
00:03:57.200 People are like, I'm going to be healthy.
00:03:58.200 I'm going to eat a salad. 0.99
00:03:59.040 And they have fucking salad dressing that has sugar and all these seed oils in it. 0.99
00:04:02.900 So we're living in this, like, kind of contaminant world, but there's a lot of people making these breakthroughs 0.99
00:04:08.480 and coming through and understanding, like, the fundamentals of nutritional science
00:04:12.180 and putting it into food, thank God.
00:04:14.380 But, you know, but, like, the average person is just so poorly uneducated.
00:04:20.760 Do you remember the food pyramid?
00:04:22.820 Did you guys have food pyramid?
00:04:24.140 I did it in school, but I don't remember it.
00:04:26.040 The food pyramid said you needed to eat six to 11 servings of bread or rice a day.
00:04:32.740 Can you imagine 11 cups of rice a day?
00:04:35.900 11 cups of rice a day.
00:04:37.580 But do you know what?
00:04:38.140 It's your responsibility to educate yourself on nutrition. 0.99
00:04:43.300 I was dumb. 0.97
00:04:44.060 I trusted the government. 0.97
00:04:44.900 Do you know what I mean?
00:04:46.180 Don't trust them.
00:04:47.720 Years ago, I did.
00:04:48.680 But when I got really fat, when I told you, when I went vegan, I started looking at what
00:04:53.520 is in the food and the ingredients.
00:04:55.240 It's up to you to educate yourself.
00:04:56.860 Yes, it is.
00:04:57.540 I'm going to show you that.
00:04:58.420 So unless you educate yourself.
00:05:00.000 But now that we have social media, it's become a lot easier.
00:05:02.620 But if you think about years ago, we didn't have this.
00:05:04.680 We had to trust the government.
00:05:06.180 We had to process.
00:05:07.400 You can question everything.
00:05:08.400 You know, now ketchup is considered a fruit in the food pyramid of the United States.
00:05:12.760 Oh, what?
00:05:13.900 I think that I'm joking.
00:05:15.440 It's process is the key word here.
00:05:17.680 It's processed sugar.
00:05:19.000 If it was from a sugar cane, if it was from a fruit, it's natural sugar.
00:05:23.680 So it's actually processed is the key word.
00:05:25.740 Not sugar cane.
00:05:26.740 Because honey is not true.
00:05:28.120 Honey, not true raw honey.
00:05:29.580 I don't know.
00:05:30.440 When I was a kid, I was also a chunky kid.
00:05:33.540 I lost the weight when I started sports, but the habits continued.
00:05:36.520 You know what I mean?
00:05:37.040 Yeah, they persist.
00:05:38.660 Yeah.
00:05:39.160 And I know how to make really good cookies from scratch.
00:05:42.900 And it's with all natural stuff because you're making it from scratch.
00:05:45.640 And that made me pretty fat.
00:05:47.580 So I think that's for sure.
00:05:48.820 It's the American.
00:05:50.720 I used to eat like half of the cookie dough when I was a kid.
00:05:53.500 I used to love the cookie dough.
00:05:54.800 The American diet, like the mainstream American diet is just so unfortunately unhealthy.
00:06:00.820 Like, you know, do you know which country has the lowest obesity rate in the world?
00:06:04.680 Japan?
00:06:05.460 No.
00:06:05.700 No.
00:06:06.020 Australia?
00:06:06.760 No.
00:06:07.080 It's China, right? 0.78
00:06:08.040 No.
00:06:08.600 No, not China.
00:06:09.900 I thought it was like Mediterranean food.
00:06:12.280 Iceland.
00:06:13.080 No.
00:06:13.520 No, no.
00:06:13.940 It's Vietnam. 0.78
00:06:15.200 Oh, no.
00:06:15.860 Yeah.
00:06:16.360 And if you ever go to Vietnam, if you eat there, it's like, first of all, if you were 0.52
00:06:20.180 going to Vietnam, it's just like a giant, it's like a small city in a jungle. 0.99
00:06:24.320 And Vietnamese people eat so healthy.
00:06:27.060 They eat natural foods.
00:06:29.300 There's not a lot of GMOs, nonsense, you know.
00:06:31.420 You know, Vietnam has one of the lowest divorce rates in the world, too, 7%.
00:06:34.560 Have you been to Vietnam?
00:06:35.700 That's the place I want to go to.
00:06:36.980 It's really awesome.
00:06:37.940 I've eaten Vietnamese food.
00:06:40.120 That's money.
00:06:41.100 It's good.
00:06:41.600 And I used to have a boy called Li Nam when I was in primary school as well.
00:06:45.340 He was Vietnamese.
00:06:46.380 Yeah.
00:06:46.680 So, like, you know, the food, when you eat there, too.
00:06:48.720 And I've noticed this because, you know, I travel a lot.
00:06:51.220 I'm like, I'm addicted to traveling.
00:06:52.760 But, honestly, every time I go back to America and I start eating American food, I get, like,
00:06:58.320 a bloated stomach.
00:06:59.400 Yeah.
00:06:59.600 I get digestion issues.
00:07:01.200 It's poison. 1.00
00:07:01.580 And I, yeah, no, dead ass. 1.00
00:07:03.860 It's poison. 1.00
00:07:04.240 Now that I'm vegan.
00:07:05.140 Yeah.
00:07:05.320 If I ever eat, because, obviously, I've grown up on processed food.
00:07:09.140 I've grown up with meat, you know, and, you know, fish and all that kind of thing.
00:07:14.120 So, when I go back to eating those kind of foods, it does, it affects me.
00:07:20.440 Yeah.
00:07:20.640 It affects my body.
00:07:21.460 I can, yeah.
00:07:21.860 I went to, I just went to the United States and every time I go back to America, I just
00:07:27.480 have to eat Chick-fil-A.
00:07:28.980 I just have to eat Chick-fil-A.
00:07:30.560 But I eat it.
00:07:31.280 I eat it.
00:07:31.560 I eat it.
00:07:31.580 I eat it.
00:07:31.900 I eat it, like, the Chick-fil-A chicken sandwich or I eat the breakfast biscuit or whatever.
00:07:36.180 And then my stomach, I look like I'm three months pregnant.
00:07:39.140 Like, it just bloats me up.
00:07:41.140 And I'm miserable for the rest of the day.
00:07:43.180 You're bloated.
00:07:43.760 You know what my trick is for me for that?
00:07:45.500 If I do eat something and I know I'm bloated, I have a waist trainer that I wear.
00:07:51.100 And I'm not joking.
00:07:54.160 If I know I want to eat something, my waist trainer is in my bag.
00:07:58.040 Can we talk about the health of that then?
00:07:59.720 We're talking about health.
00:08:00.700 Let's explore what waist trainers do for people and to people, right?
00:08:07.800 Because waist trainers, you know, they used to be used for posture correction.
00:08:11.600 And you have, like, you know, post-surgery garments like Faha's. 0.92
00:08:15.400 But if you are just putting on a waist trainer and let's say you're wearing it for extended
00:08:19.700 periods of time because you're super committed to having a snatched waist, what is that doing
00:08:24.240 to your organs?
00:08:24.960 Well, I've been doing it for five years.
00:08:26.540 You know, honestly, I just, I just, I just, I've been wearing it for five years.
00:08:34.600 I just can't see waist trainers being as big of a problem as obesity.
00:08:39.280 No, I'm not saying, I'm not saying this to a comparable.
00:08:40.960 But no, no, and I'm saying, I think that's why we focus on obesity a lot more is because
00:08:44.520 it's just a way bigger problem. 0.92
00:08:46.680 You guys would always clown. 0.91
00:08:48.520 I'm so tired of the UK clowning on America for being overweight. 0.73
00:08:52.040 Because I looked up the stats and it's not that different.
00:08:55.220 But U.S. is massive.
00:08:58.980 U.S. is massive.
00:09:00.180 But I will say this.
00:09:01.080 It's like, it's like, okay, I think we're like 70% overweight and you guys are like 60.
00:09:06.220 Yeah.
00:09:06.600 It's like, we've caught up.
00:09:08.720 But I don't, I don't, I think they're in the hillbilly sides of England.
00:09:13.420 Because like in London, I don't know, I was expecting to see a bunch of fatties here. 0.94
00:09:17.160 But I see gorgeous, good women, good looking women here. 1.00
00:09:20.040 I think it's because everybody's walking all the time here.
00:09:22.840 You know what I mean?
00:09:23.760 That's like when I first moved. 1.00
00:09:25.740 Yeah, Australians are pretty fat. 1.00
00:09:27.260 Like, I was, like, I drove everywhere in Australia. 0.99
00:09:30.780 Yeah.
00:09:31.180 I moved here four months, 10 kilos, gone.
00:09:33.780 Because you're walking, right?
00:09:34.500 And I wasn't, I didn't change my diet, nothing.
00:09:37.120 Everything was the same.
00:09:38.200 And I'm like, whoa.
00:09:38.940 25% of adults in England are obese.
00:09:42.560 It's like.
00:09:43.360 Isn't that terrible?
00:09:44.600 That's like, that's not bad?
00:09:45.800 Because like, we're American.
00:09:46.880 Like, well, that's not bad.
00:09:47.940 Because we have 40% in the States. 1.00
00:09:52.100 Us is, oh shit, we are 40%. 1.00
00:09:54.160 I know the fat stats. 1.00
00:09:56.200 I know the fat stats.
00:09:57.420 I got in trouble.
00:09:58.340 So I'll tell you, ladies, something.
00:09:59.400 I recently got in trouble, right?
00:10:00.380 Because I, like, I trolled chats once in a while.
00:10:02.800 And there was a, there was a girl that was on, there was a girl that was on a show.
00:10:06.860 And no disrespect to her.
00:10:08.400 It is what it is.
00:10:09.560 But, you know, she was, I mean, objectively speaking, she was a little bit on the chubbier side.
00:10:15.020 And I just wrote, who is this chubby woman? 1.00
00:10:17.600 And then I wrote, ha, ha, ha.
00:10:18.720 And then I wrote, she's, she's about 40 pounds too heavy for me. 0.99
00:10:22.580 My personal preference, right?
00:10:23.840 Yeah.
00:10:24.060 And she was really, really, really, really upset that I said this.
00:10:31.440 And the reality is, though, like, if you look at her, like, her weight is still what it is.
00:10:38.060 Yeah.
00:10:38.520 But she, like, vilified me and demonized me. 1.00
00:10:41.720 She could have ran a marathon like I did. 1.00
00:10:43.600 You know, it's like, it, like, so I went to America and basically a girl got angry because I said she was a little heavier than I preferred for my sexual preference.
00:10:57.160 I think women were just being offended. 1.00