JustPearlyThings - July 24, 2023


OF Model Shared Her STORY


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In this episode I speak to a dominatrix who has been in the sex industry for a long time. She talks about her experience with sex work and how she got her start in the industry. We also discuss why nice guys don t get the girls and why nice girls get the guys.

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00:00:00.000 Coming up next.
00:00:00.920 What do you roughly make a year?
00:00:02.480 A year, I'd say maybe, not on OF, but altogether maybe, I'd say about 50k.
00:00:08.480 50k?
00:00:09.120 Yeah.
00:00:10.340 That's sex work? 0.97
00:00:11.980 Yeah.
00:00:12.740 You think you're worth 50k a year?
00:00:14.500 No, but I don't work a lot though with it.
00:00:16.800 I don't overdo it because when I was a bit younger, I overworked.
00:00:22.340 And that's when I was in a really bad place, I overdid it.
00:00:25.360 So I've taken a bit of a step back.
00:00:26.780 I don't even do my OF only friends anymore.
00:00:30.000 I more do, like, dominatrix and come in.
00:00:34.080 And that just keeps me steady for now.
00:00:36.440 And then I was in work, I checked my phone.
00:00:39.360 I think I made maybe, like, 2k in that day.
00:00:42.480 And to me, that's a lot.
00:00:43.480 I haven't come from a big family, haven't come from a stable family at all.
00:00:47.400 I think 2k in a day is a lot.
00:00:48.760 And for me, it was because I was getting £400 a week from the care home.
00:00:51.820 And I was working 12-hour shifts and five days a week.
00:00:54.580 So to me, that was amazing.
00:00:55.980 If I could sit here and regret doing sex work, I probably would regret it.
00:01:00.740 Only because of the stuff I put on the internet as well.
00:01:03.220 Because that's not me.
00:01:04.240 That's just what I've done for money.
00:01:06.020 And you shouldn't have to do them things for money.
00:01:08.500 To, you know, you're losing your, not morals, but...
00:01:12.460 It could have been private.
00:01:14.320 Yeah, it could have been private.
00:01:16.120 And I feel like where I was a bit younger and I was getting too excited because of the money,
00:01:19.700 I had no parents to guide me.
00:01:21.020 I kind of lost the control and now I'm in this situation.
00:01:25.420 So I want to ask you girls, what do you think?
00:01:26.680 How does a man get a high value?
00:01:27.940 If you think you're a high value woman, how does a man get you? 1.00
00:01:30.380 And don't say lazy and funny.
00:01:31.520 I think definitely every man should go to the gym because that's the first thing a woman looks at. 1.00
00:01:39.360 You don't even have to be particularly good looking, but if you're fit and you've got,
00:01:43.220 you look like you can protect someone, you've got presence in a room, then that works straight away.
00:01:47.400 And then if you're, you have to be more than that.
00:01:49.840 So if you're funny, it helps if you've got charisma, if you've got a good job, if you've got drive.
00:01:55.560 And then I think the soft, nice stuff actually probably comes last or the cuddly.
00:02:02.580 I think women can live without that. 1.00
00:02:04.360 I think you need it a bit, but I think when men start with that and that, you know, 0.52
00:02:09.040 you go out with the nice guy and he gets you flowers, but he's not strong and he's not driven.
00:02:13.400 And it kind of makes you feel a bit sickly that they get you the flowers and they're nice to you all the time.
00:02:17.760 It's kind of too much.
00:02:18.600 Honestly, and that sounds, but that's why nice guys don't get the girl.
00:02:23.560 It's because they have nothing else to compete on.
00:02:27.500 It's because it's the easiest thing to project, but it doesn't require sacrifice.
00:02:32.260 But it's not that, because I was thinking earlier that if those guys just went to the gym and got a bit more presence,
00:02:39.780 that's easier than trying to get those guys to be nice and lovely and, you know, and potentially commit.
00:02:47.700 Like, so, you know, we always go for those guys hoping that they're going to choose us when actually they can choose from so many women and they don't care and they don't have any rush to settle down.
00:02:56.820 Why are they going to do that for us as opposed to, sorry, they're nicer guys.
00:03:02.280 Because if you get a guy in the middle, it's kind of like a five across the board, he can kind of like boost up a bit.
00:03:07.140 And that's good.
00:03:09.640 Well, what do you think?
00:03:10.440 I think if I see my man treat his mom with respect, you know, treat, treat his, the women in his family, how they should be treated.
00:03:20.280 Because I've seen a lot of guys and they, they're horrible to their parents.
00:03:24.620 Who was your last boyfriend?
00:03:26.260 Three years ago.
00:03:27.340 My only boyfriend.
00:03:28.420 Okay.
00:03:28.820 Was he nice to his mom?
00:03:30.980 Yeah.
00:03:31.300 Very nice.
00:03:32.180 Who ended the relationship?
00:03:34.160 Um, me.
00:03:35.500 So, uh, let's say listen to what women do and not say. 1.00
00:03:41.500 But, um.
00:03:42.120 Why?
00:03:42.400 He was nice to his mom.
00:03:43.840 Yeah, he was nice to his mom, but he also liked to do a lot of really bad things.
00:03:49.360 So, that didn't do it for me.
00:03:51.060 But that is definitely a big thing though still.
00:03:54.100 The parents.
00:03:55.440 Nice to your mom, okay.
00:03:56.340 Looking at hygiene. 0.89
00:03:57.360 So, you want to get laid, be nice to your mother, and shower.
00:04:00.660 All right.
00:04:01.140 Hygiene.
00:04:02.460 Um, for me, I like a man with money.
00:04:06.200 Going to say it because I need to feel stable as well, you know.
00:04:09.100 And women like to be looked after. 1.00
00:04:10.320 I appreciate the honesty.
00:04:11.940 I like to be looked after.
00:04:12.920 Because you're not capping.
00:04:13.660 We don't cap on the show.
00:04:15.240 And I feel like.
00:04:16.140 Thank you.
00:04:16.700 There's a lot of times where.
00:04:18.360 How much?
00:04:19.960 Give me a number.
00:04:20.960 A lot.
00:04:21.400 So, I've been single for quite a while now.
00:04:23.940 And I feel like I'm looking after myself all the time.
00:04:25.860 It gets to a point.
00:04:27.480 You get fed up with that.
00:04:28.420 And you actually just want a nice masculine man to take care of you. 0.99
00:04:32.220 And put you in these arms.
00:04:33.380 I like that.
00:04:34.220 And everyone's different.
00:04:35.660 But that's what I like.
00:04:36.220 Give me a number.
00:04:36.920 How much does he have to make?
00:04:38.560 How much?
00:04:40.200 As long as I've got a nice house.
00:04:42.100 I've got a nice car.
00:04:43.480 What does a nice house go for in London?
00:04:46.040 Oh.
00:04:46.680 I wouldn't live in England anyway.
00:04:48.520 I'd live abroad.
00:04:49.560 Definitely.
00:04:50.460 Oh.
00:04:50.480 So, you're looking for a man in another country.
00:04:52.620 No.
00:04:52.900 That would want to move.
00:04:53.720 So, hopefully, he's got his businesses all settled.
00:04:56.040 And we can go.
00:04:58.080 What makes you think that guy will choose you?
00:04:59.940 Yeah.
00:05:00.200 You know what?
00:05:01.540 I might never get a rich man in my life.
00:05:03.660 But that's what I like.
00:05:05.380 So, hopefully, it get there.
00:05:07.380 Okay.
00:05:08.000 I might never get there.
00:05:08.640 Are you taking steps to get there?
00:05:10.800 At the moment, I'm healing them myself.
00:05:12.840 I've got a lot of issues I need to sort out before I can never get a partner.
00:05:15.800 Okay.
00:05:16.040 And that's...
00:05:16.620 How are you healing them?
00:05:18.140 Therapy.
00:05:19.140 Oh.
00:05:19.480 Yeah. 0.91
00:05:20.200 I think therapy makes you crazier.
00:05:21.900 No.
00:05:22.160 You know what?
00:05:22.900 I think all the women I know that go to therapy get worse. 1.00
00:05:25.500 Yeah.
00:05:25.980 And I can actually agree with that.
00:05:27.640 But the only reason I'm getting this therapy is because it's free at the moment.
00:05:30.680 And I do actually need some sort of help.
00:05:33.280 Is it a male or a female therapist?
00:05:34.700 It's a female.
00:05:35.620 I'm going to just...
00:05:36.580 You should go to a male therapist. 0.96
00:05:38.020 Really?
00:05:38.600 Yeah.
00:05:39.180 Women shouldn't be therapists. 1.00
00:05:40.640 That's just my opinion.
00:05:41.660 I'm in the psychology program at the school.
00:05:44.000 I promise you.
00:05:44.700 These women that are giving you therapy... 1.00
00:05:46.180 Horrible.
00:05:47.000 Yeah.
00:05:47.420 Horrible. 1.00
00:05:47.660 They're insane. 0.99
00:05:48.280 Men look to solve problems. 1.00
00:05:50.260 Yeah.
00:05:50.540 So a guy's going to tell you if I have this problem, let's say you solve it.
00:05:53.300 Women are just going to say, oh, it's okay. 1.00
00:05:56.020 Tell me about your trauma.
00:05:58.120 But I've also had a men therapist that have made me feel really uncomfortable and flirted
00:06:03.420 with me.
00:06:04.260 And that didn't solve any of my problems.
00:06:05.960 Well...
00:06:06.160 I felt uncomfortable at my therapy session.
00:06:08.180 So to me, I'll feel more comfortable with a woman.
00:06:10.420 I feel more nurtured.
00:06:11.540 How did he flirt?
00:06:13.000 Just making comments.
00:06:14.200 What's your social media and things like that, you know?
00:06:16.500 Making me feel uncomfortable because everyone...
00:06:19.260 Yes.
00:06:19.380 He knew that I'm a S.A.
00:06:21.080 No.
00:06:21.940 A S.W.
00:06:23.100 You don't want to be an S.A. 0.99
00:06:24.000 A sex worker. 0.94
00:06:24.780 I'm allowed to say that, right? 0.99
00:06:25.760 A S.W.
00:06:26.320 Yeah.
00:06:27.140 Do you think that helps or hurts with your mental health?
00:06:29.880 It hurts it.
00:06:30.760 So much.
00:06:31.680 Okay.
00:06:31.940 I'll be so real.
00:06:32.700 What can you...
00:06:33.540 Why do you keep doing it then?
00:06:35.500 Because at that moment, I'm in like a bit of a loophole where it's a bit hard to come
00:06:39.900 out of it.
00:06:40.300 Where I'm just used to money being thrown at me.
00:06:42.980 I'm scared to go back into a normal job routine.
00:06:47.140 How much in savings do you have?
00:06:49.460 Savings?
00:06:50.260 Um...
00:06:50.580 Do I really have to answer that?
00:06:53.140 Do you have more than like...
00:06:54.380 Okay.
00:06:54.640 What do you roughly make a year?
00:06:56.940 A year?
00:06:57.880 I'd say maybe...
00:06:59.020 Not on OF, but altogether maybe.
00:07:01.040 I'd say about 50K.
00:07:02.640 50K?
00:07:03.660 Yeah.
00:07:04.340 For...
00:07:04.800 That's sex work? 0.97
00:07:06.520 Yeah.
00:07:07.280 You think you're worth 50K a year?
00:07:08.960 No, but I don't work a lot though with it.
00:07:11.440 I do...
00:07:12.240 You know, I don't overdo it because when I was a bit younger, I overworked.
00:07:16.800 And that's when I was in a really bad place.
00:07:19.140 I overdid it.
00:07:19.900 So I've taken a bit of a step back.
00:07:21.320 I don't even do my OF only plans anymore.
00:07:24.380 Um...
00:07:24.980 I more do like dominatrix and come in.
00:07:28.600 And that just keeps me steady for now.
00:07:30.440 Yeah.
00:07:30.720 Well, I'm just thinking if you want to get out...
00:07:32.620 Oh no, of course.
00:07:33.460 Of course.
00:07:33.860 Right.
00:07:34.140 So like it might help to get some savings so then you can...
00:07:37.460 Yeah, no, I've got...
00:07:38.080 I've got savings.
00:07:38.960 I've got savings.
00:07:39.620 Don't get me wrong.
00:07:40.280 I've got savings.
00:07:41.180 But also I've gotten a lot of debt as well.
00:07:43.200 And I also had to go for a court case.
00:07:45.020 So I'm spending money on solicitors.
00:07:46.620 You know, things happen in life.
00:07:47.920 Life's one big journey.
00:07:49.040 And I feel like everyone's journey is different.
00:07:50.940 Some people have a really good life and some people don't have a good life.
00:07:54.040 So what made you get into that?
00:07:56.480 Well, the sex work sort of thing.
00:07:59.040 I used to work in a care home and I was actually very depressed, very low.
00:08:03.380 And I wasn't making a lot of money.
00:08:05.040 And I had my ex-boyfriend at the time that used to...
00:08:07.640 He used to really make me feel low, you know.
00:08:09.860 And even like we'd go out for meals and he'd say,
00:08:12.160 have you got the 10 pound from the meal?
00:08:13.900 He used to always make me split.
00:08:15.120 And I used to think to myself like, I care for you.
00:08:17.700 I love you.
00:08:18.180 I treat you.
00:08:18.960 I try and treat you well.
00:08:20.480 And he never gave me that back.
00:08:22.080 And then I worked in the care home and I was sitting there one day
00:08:25.280 and I thought, I can't do this anymore.
00:08:27.140 My man don't even want to help.
00:08:31.180 And then I was sitting there and speaking to one of the old guys
00:08:34.540 that I used to look after in the care home.
00:08:36.000 And I told him my whole plan about starting the OnlyFans, you know.
00:08:39.300 And he sat there and he said to me, do it.
00:08:41.480 Why are you not doing it?
00:08:42.280 You're going to be old like me one day, sitting in a chair. 0.97
00:08:44.540 You're going to like die basically one day. 0.99
00:08:46.520 Just do it. 0.97
00:08:47.840 And I thought...
00:08:48.260 He probably just wanted to subscribe.
00:08:49.620 You know what?
00:08:50.480 But he didn't make it till that time because he passed away a few months after.
00:08:54.260 But I started it and...
00:08:56.340 How old were you?
00:08:57.520 I was 19.
00:08:58.800 So you're 19.
00:08:59.620 You're working to care how long...
00:09:00.480 I swear.
00:09:01.460 Sorry, it gets hot.
00:09:02.440 It gets very hot.
00:09:03.400 It's the UK's fault.
00:09:04.920 Question.
00:09:05.420 How many years did you run your OnlyFans?
00:09:09.200 Probably about a year and a half when I stopped.
00:09:13.160 Yeah.
00:09:13.620 So I was working in the care home and then I started it.
00:09:16.440 And I knew that if I started the OF, my ex would leave me alone
00:09:19.380 because he hated things like that.
00:09:20.560 And I knew that he'd really leave me alone because we were so toxic together.
00:09:23.920 And then I was in work.
00:09:26.040 I checked my phone.
00:09:27.000 I think I made maybe like 2K in that day.
00:09:30.120 And to me, that's a lot.
00:09:31.200 I haven't come from a big family.
00:09:32.320 I haven't come from a stable family at all.
00:09:35.060 I think 2K in a day is a lot.
00:09:36.660 And for me, it was because I was getting 400 pounds a week from the care home.
00:09:39.460 And I was working 12-hour shifts and five days a week.
00:09:42.340 So to me, that was amazing.
00:09:44.220 How old did you say you are now?
00:09:45.660 I'm 22 now.
00:09:46.680 Okay.
00:09:46.980 So you've been doing it for like three years.
00:09:48.140 Yeah.
00:09:48.540 And then I said to my manager, I need to leave work.
00:09:52.400 I don't really want to be here.
00:09:53.700 And I told her my situation with the OnlyFans.
00:09:55.580 She said to me, just go.
00:09:56.360 So I went and I just never looked back.
00:09:59.460 So why did you pick that route instead of like, I don't know, marrying rich?
00:10:03.400 You know what it was?
00:10:04.040 You're a pretty girl.
00:10:04.640 You were 19.
00:10:05.220 Thank you.
00:10:05.880 You were with the guy for three years.
00:10:08.140 So you couldn't have been, I mean, you probably weren't streeting that much if you were with
00:10:12.860 a guy for three years, were you?
00:10:14.780 Maybe you were.
00:10:15.520 Okay.
00:10:15.900 Yeah.
00:10:16.400 I was a mess.
00:10:17.400 I was a mess.
00:10:18.160 I had no control over my emotions.
00:10:20.340 I felt like I didn't even know who I was.
00:10:22.220 Right.
00:10:22.480 I feel like when you're in a young relationship, you don't even know who you are as a person
00:10:26.360 at that point.
00:10:27.120 You grow to learn who you are.
00:10:29.320 Why ruin your own life?
00:10:30.260 You could have got married, ruined someone else's too.
00:10:32.000 I don't want to get married.
00:10:32.980 I'm against marriage. 1.00
00:10:33.820 I don't ever want to get married.
00:10:34.700 Thank you.
00:10:35.900 I don't like marriage.
00:10:36.140 It wasn't offering.
00:10:36.820 I was just asking.
00:10:37.240 Yeah.
00:10:37.580 No, but I don't like marriage.
00:10:38.660 I just think it's like.
00:10:39.480 No, not everyone wants to get married and not everyone wants children.
00:10:41.600 I know.
00:10:41.900 No, I just think it's like a shame because there's a way to utilize female beauty in 1.00
00:10:45.640 a different way and still get the outcomes that you want.
00:10:48.560 You know what I mean?
00:10:49.040 Like now you're in a position where it's going to be tough to ever be with a guy long term.
00:10:53.020 Yeah, but maybe I don't want to be with a guy long term.
00:10:55.980 Maybe I want to live with three cats at my home with all my cactuses.
00:10:58.480 What do you want your life to look like at 65?
00:11:01.320 I'll probably be dead by then.
00:11:02.560 So I don't know.
00:11:04.260 I don't think that far ahead because life.
00:11:08.280 You really should.
00:11:10.420 I don't plan that far ahead.
00:11:11.600 I live in the moment.
00:11:12.780 Yeah, it probably will.
00:11:13.700 But if it does, it does.
00:11:15.160 I don't really care.
00:11:16.480 Yeah, you do.
00:11:17.260 No, I don't.
00:11:18.300 I think you feel a bit under.
00:11:19.480 No, I don't.
00:11:21.220 You say that now, but then life hits you.
00:11:24.620 Maybe it will hit me, but it's not hitting me yet.
00:11:27.480 And I'm here.
00:11:28.400 I'm healthy.
00:11:29.600 You know, I'm living.
00:11:30.840 I've got good family members and I've got friends.
00:11:32.920 You still get it.
00:11:33.960 I don't think women, we realize how much we need attention from men. 0.90
00:11:37.620 Yeah.
00:11:38.020 I agree with that.
00:11:40.020 And so like right now you're still young, you're still attractive, you're still going
00:11:43.040 to get attention from men.
00:11:44.460 But like at 40 to 50, women become basically invisible. 0.98
00:11:47.940 Yeah.
00:11:48.900 I know.
00:11:49.260 That does scare me, actually.
00:11:50.360 I thought about that a few times.
00:11:51.360 And so if you don't get a husband before then, like what does life look like?
00:11:55.560 Your parents will pass away at some point.
00:11:58.460 Your siblings will have their own families.
00:12:00.280 Like if you don't start thinking long term, like what does your life look like?
00:12:03.900 And I don't say this to be mean.
00:12:05.380 No, no, no.
00:12:06.000 It's a good question.
00:12:07.280 You're in the position you're in already.
00:12:08.700 You can't do anything to like.
00:12:10.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:12:10.540 To change it.
00:12:11.600 Yeah.
00:12:11.940 But it's like, you know, if you want to be in a position where you're happier, like
00:12:15.960 wouldn't it make sense to maybe start put that away?
00:12:19.080 Maybe, but I don't know.
00:12:22.100 I feel like there's so much in my life I'm trying to sort out first, like my mental health
00:12:26.260 and my family issues and a lot of my childhood trauma that I still have to deal with daily.
00:12:31.100 So I'm trying to sort that out first because I feel like I can't think straight at the
00:12:34.200 moment with my head.
00:12:34.980 It's just like one big tornado.
00:12:37.180 So trauma, like what do you mean?
00:12:38.760 You need to go through, like, because I never understand when people say childhood trauma,
00:12:42.940 like I need to go through.
00:12:43.760 When I was younger, I was SA'd and it was my mom's boyfriend.
00:12:48.260 So like that was quite intense, you know.
00:12:52.120 I'm not getting upset.
00:12:53.420 It's just a bit, you know.
00:12:55.460 Yeah.
00:12:55.960 So how long have you been going to therapy for it?
00:12:59.160 I was going when I was 16 for a year and then I stopped before I didn't need it anymore.
00:13:04.440 And then I've only been going for about five months now.
00:13:07.480 Well, because it's just the sad thing about therapy is it just seems like they just
00:13:13.760 kind of make money off of their patients instead of trying to get you guys out.
00:13:18.540 And I think a lot of times that's like women doing it. 1.00
00:13:21.080 I know maybe you had the bad experience with the guy, but it might make sense to try to find
00:13:24.960 a different.
00:13:25.660 Yeah, I guess so.
00:13:26.880 You know, just because like what does your future look like?
00:13:29.520 You have to figure out how to move on.
00:13:31.220 Yeah.
00:13:31.880 Yeah, definitely.
00:13:33.500 Yeah.
00:13:33.980 Okay.
00:13:34.960 And sometimes there are things that you can't actually get over.
00:13:37.620 So looking at it endlessly makes you live in the moment.
00:13:41.220 Yeah, I always feel like I wake up and I'm still living in the past still.
00:13:45.040 Like my head just keeps living in the past.
00:13:47.700 But, you know, and I've just found that if I focus more on the future, you don't live
00:13:51.120 as much in the past.
00:13:52.420 Yeah, I know.
00:13:52.780 You know, but like right now you're not even thinking like long term.
00:13:55.600 Yeah.
00:13:56.420 Also, if you had a partner, one that was good for you, not just any old partner, if you
00:14:01.000 were focused on them and they're focused on you, then you also wouldn't have to.
00:14:05.080 I feel like that is why I do hate my job because I don't glamorize sex work at all.
00:14:09.000 I think don't start it, it does ruin your life.
00:14:11.380 It ruins your mentality and it ruins how you view men and how men should view you.
00:14:15.640 So, yeah, if I could sit here and regret doing sex work, I probably would regret it.
00:14:22.100 Only because of the stuff I put on the internet as well.
00:14:24.560 Because that's not me.
00:14:25.580 That's just what I've done for money.
00:14:27.360 And you shouldn't have to do them things for money to, you know, you're losing your,
00:14:32.340 not morals, but it could have been private.
00:14:35.640 Yeah, it could have been private.
00:14:37.240 And I feel like where I was a bit younger and I was getting too excited because of the
00:14:40.820 money, I had no parents to guide me.
00:14:42.360 I kind of lost the control and now I'm in this situation.
00:14:47.980 But, yeah.
00:14:49.460 I'm just thinking there's like steps you could take to get out of it.
00:14:52.440 Because, you know, it's like you can, you're able to make savings, put it away.
00:14:57.060 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:14:57.540 Learn like a skill.
00:14:58.220 Because I'm just thinking like you're a pretty girl.
00:15:00.620 There's ways to monetize your beauty in a different way.
00:15:02.980 You can start a YouTube channel and do reactions.
00:15:05.280 Yeah.
00:15:05.420 Right.
00:15:05.720 You could do, you could do sales.
00:15:08.920 Yeah.
00:15:09.200 I mean, I don't.
00:15:10.340 Would sales people hire sex workers? 1.00
00:15:13.640 It's what's interesting to me.
00:15:14.840 And this is actually something, like I said, when I was dating a gal that turned out to be
00:15:18.120 a stripper and like a really popular one, apparently, what really interested me in her 0.99
00:15:23.940 psychology, she was probably the best person I've ever met at just reading men and just
00:15:28.400 understand.
00:15:28.860 Like, I don't believe that anybody really knows human nature like sex workers do.
00:15:32.300 That's so true.
00:15:33.080 They really, like these girls.
00:15:34.580 Yeah.
00:15:35.000 She can look, she can look at a guy and I guarantee it.
00:15:36.960 I've met you like two minutes ago.
00:15:38.460 We've gone on a show.
00:15:39.000 It's like, she can look at a guy and immediately know how much money he has.
00:15:42.280 Would he cheat on his wife and how quickly?
00:15:44.080 And like, and she knows she would, you know, you know, of course, because the gal 1.00
00:15:48.020 I was with, she was like, she would look at a guy.
00:15:49.240 She's like, I'm like, oh, that guy's my friend.
00:15:51.400 He was married.
00:15:51.780 She's like, oh, he would cheat on his wife in a minute. 1.00
00:15:52.920 I'm like, really?
00:15:53.320 And she would just know.
00:15:54.100 She's like, I know the look. 0.98
00:15:54.860 I know, I know the feel.
00:15:55.820 I know the energy.
00:15:56.480 Like, they just understand that.
00:15:57.580 So yes, it definitely is good for sales.
00:15:59.160 But coming, I know that you did not like sales and that's fine.
00:16:02.220 I loved sales.
00:16:03.300 I'll tell you.
00:16:03.980 No, no, no, no.
00:16:04.700 I don't mind sales.
00:16:05.400 I hate selling copiers.
00:16:06.580 Yes.
00:16:07.500 We had a guy in our company.
00:16:08.340 We had a guy in our company that's like one of our top salespeople.
00:16:10.440 He used to sell copiers, came to us.
00:16:11.660 He likes his life now.
00:16:12.320 But there is something to sales that I think is really, really important tying into this.
00:16:18.660 How you feel and like all the emotional stuff.
00:16:20.940 I mean, obviously, like that's a battle you have to fight.
00:16:25.540 That's a battle you have to win.
00:16:26.640 It is what it is.
00:16:27.560 Everybody has some trauma, not at the same level.
00:16:30.620 You know, we're different.
00:16:31.520 But everybody comes.
00:16:32.400 Everybody's family is effed up in some way or another.
00:16:34.380 Like, it's just a fact.
00:16:35.200 We all are, you know?
00:16:36.280 And one thing I'm really glad about, like when I was 20 years old and I felt like I was
00:16:40.300 a victim of the world.
00:16:42.000 And I think a lot of people, you know, at a young age feel like they're victims.
00:16:44.580 Like, no, I'm not the best looking.
00:16:46.000 No, I'm not the smartest.
00:16:46.980 No, I'm not this, the, that.
00:16:48.320 I don't have a big brother to teach me things.
00:16:50.780 I was 20.
00:16:51.780 The internet wasn't like a huge thing, which is kind of crazy.
00:16:54.180 So we didn't have these podcasts to learn about life, which is why I appreciate what
00:16:57.940 Pearl does so much because, you know, we get to learn about life.
00:17:01.180 I was really, really lucky to take a sales position where people probably cared about the
00:17:06.820 money I was making them more than they cared about me.
00:17:08.620 But at least the steps that I needed to take to build myself included a significant amount
00:17:13.660 of discipline, a significant amount of accountability and being honest with myself because I didn't
00:17:17.960 get paid if I didn't sell anything.
00:17:19.500 So I had to be very brutally honest with myself and extremely disciplined.
00:17:23.300 But what really helped was getting around another group of people around me that were
00:17:27.320 disciplined and growing and they didn't resent my success.
00:17:30.080 They celebrated my success and I celebrated their success.
00:17:33.280 And when I failed, they didn't crap on me.
00:17:35.180 They said, hey, you failed, let's work together to make you better if you want to be better.
00:17:39.580 You know?
00:17:39.740 And so one of the things actually we do in our company is, and I think Tate and those
00:17:44.140 guys have the war room.
00:17:45.480 People like the war room was, I think that's brilliant.
00:17:47.520 I think just giving men a place to meet other ambitious, successful or striving men.
00:17:52.340 That's better than school.
00:17:53.520 Yeah.
00:17:53.800 And we need that.
00:17:54.760 We do the same thing in our company.
00:17:55.940 Like we bring guys in and we literally mold them and work with them to make them more accountable,
00:18:00.120 to grow.
00:18:00.620 And do some guys resent it?
00:18:02.200 Yes.
00:18:02.400 They leave and they resent it because they don't like to be in an environment where they
00:18:05.580 feel like they're not enough.
00:18:07.040 But other guys flourish in that environment.
00:18:09.260 And as a man, I'm talking from a man's perspective, you don't have, like a woman can cry and still 1.00
00:18:13.840 move into another man's life a couple of years later.
00:18:15.880 Men don't have that option. 1.00
00:18:17.120 Like we need to be building all the time.
00:18:19.440 And if you feel like you're a dude and you're a little bit victimized, it's time to step up
00:18:23.100 and get around people that will help you grow.
00:18:25.560 I agree with that.
00:18:26.640 Definitely.
00:18:26.920 I'm just thinking for you, you've been doing OF for three years.
00:18:30.620 Like that's three years.
00:18:31.380 You can still get out.
00:18:32.740 You can still get out.
00:18:33.240 I haven't actually been doing it for three years.
00:18:34.560 I've been, I did it for like really, I was on it for like a year and a half.
00:18:39.000 And then the other two years, I had it, but I never put any effort into it.
00:18:42.540 What I'm saying is right now, it's still, you can semi, you can semi get it off the internet.
00:18:47.000 Oh no, 100%.
00:18:47.540 You could.
00:18:47.880 I'd never want to be a sex worker for the rest of my life. 0.81
00:18:50.780 No way.
00:18:51.340 But I'm saying the way, the way you're on track, like that's what you're on track to do.
00:18:54.400 If you don't make life changes quick.
00:18:56.240 No, I have been though.
00:18:57.520 I have been, yeah.
00:18:58.160 What changes have you been making?
00:18:59.360 I've made a limited company.
00:19:01.320 I'm starting with a cleaning company.
00:19:02.980 I just need to make my website at the moment.
00:19:05.100 So I've got the cleaners for it. 1.00
00:19:07.020 Like not the cleaners, I've got the, what's it called?
00:19:11.260 Why does my mind go?
00:19:12.560 I'm like, you should get the OF girls to clean. 1.00
00:19:14.000 No, I was thinking.
00:19:15.440 This is what I was thinking.
00:19:16.740 Get maids. 1.00
00:19:17.240 You know, you know, Mr. Miyagi wipe the window.
00:19:19.060 She's like, clean the window, clean the window. 1.00
00:19:22.200 That was a part of my plan.
00:19:24.220 So my plan was to start a legit one first year.
00:19:26.980 I've got a friend, he does an Airbnb business.
00:19:29.400 So I thought I can use the cleaners for that to start with.
00:19:32.240 And then make a Twitter page and get the naughty maids in. 1.00
00:19:36.660 You know what I mean?
00:19:37.380 The sugar does have the nice houses.
00:19:39.520 But then you're still in that environment.
00:19:41.800 I'm not what you're talking about.
00:19:43.760 It doesn't make it any better.
00:19:45.400 That's amazing.
00:19:46.320 And remember one time I was on your show a while ago.
00:19:48.320 And the story was like, I told my wife we should get a cleaner.
00:19:52.940 Because we have four kids and like a very large house with a lot of toys and stuff.
00:19:57.740 And she's like, okay, fine, I'll try it.
00:19:59.600 And then the cleaner came and it was this like young Ukrainian girl. 0.98
00:20:02.540 And she cleaned the house spotlessly and she was good looking.
00:20:05.460 And my wife's like, I'm never inviting the cleaner. 1.00
00:20:07.100 So women watching this, not just the men.
00:20:11.160 The women should be, you know, if you're a guy and your wife's not cleaning, 1.00
00:20:15.160 hire this lady in her company. 1.00
00:20:17.160 Your wife will be a cleaner. 1.00
00:20:22.160 Did you answer the question for how many bodies is too many for high value?
00:20:26.820 No, but we talked about this before.
00:20:29.500 And I knew about the statistics about the pair bonding.
00:20:32.440 So five was my number before.
00:20:34.120 But you mentioned something about two being like the initial drop-off point.
00:20:38.900 Yeah.
00:20:39.300 So I've now adjusted.
00:20:41.700 And I think that's the message I could hear.
00:20:43.900 That sounds better to me.
00:20:46.160 Honestly, I think that like women would be better if men raised their standards. 1.00
00:20:49.540 Especially like the men that we want.
00:20:51.000 But it goes both ways, right?
00:20:52.740 That's true.
00:20:53.320 I think men need to raise their standards for themselves.
00:20:55.480 Yeah.
00:20:55.740 Like this is crazy to me.
00:20:57.000 You know, like there's so many dudes that are, what is it like seven million men in the USA are on disability leave even though they're not disabled?
00:21:03.820 That's an actual statistic.
00:21:04.920 It's a crazy one.
00:21:05.620 Yeah.
00:21:06.060 It's like, you know, men gaming the social system in order to just smoke pot and play video games or whatever. 0.90
00:21:12.340 Like part of this, I think the epidemic is not necessarily in men having low standards for women.
00:21:17.600 I think it's men having low standards for themselves.
00:21:19.420 And I think there's this narrative in society that like men should take on these feminine characteristics.
00:21:23.900 You know, we have men competing in women's sports, which is like, and they see that as a virtue.
00:21:27.060 No, but the reason they see it as a virtue, it's like, oh, well, a man should be sensitive.
00:21:31.140 A man should be caring.
00:21:32.460 A man should be childbearing. 1.00
00:21:33.660 They always try to make men into women. 1.00
00:21:35.640 And then they go into women's sports and now they have to celebrate it. 1.00
00:21:38.460 Otherwise, they're hypocrites. 0.99
00:21:39.760 Right? 0.98
00:21:40.180 So I'm completely against the social movement of like feminizing men.
00:21:44.120 I think that men, you know, we used to be conscripted into the army and we'd see horrible, horrible things in our early 20s.
00:21:49.700 And we'd come back and we were hard men, you know?
00:21:52.080 And I think society needs a little bit more of that.
00:21:54.140 And I fully encourage men to take more responsibility for being higher on themselves.
00:22:00.080 Raise your standards for yourself.
00:22:01.400 A woman isn't interested in you because of how you think of her. 1.00
00:22:04.280 A woman is interested of you because of the man you are.
00:22:07.320 What she thinks of you.
00:22:08.940 Do you think?
00:22:09.520 Because I always think like women would never be single mothers and leave their husbands if they knew no one would take them.
00:22:16.180 If they knew.
00:22:17.480 And there wasn't a government bailout.
00:22:19.280 Well, there's a government bailout, which messes up a lot of things.
00:22:21.560 There's actually something I was flying over here.
00:22:24.820 I was in Budapest this morning.
00:22:26.720 I got on the plane.
00:22:27.600 I flew here to London.
00:22:28.260 And I was thinking about this on the flight.
00:22:29.780 And I was sort of thinking about this in a biblical sense, you know?
00:22:32.940 And this is what I came out to in my mind.
00:22:34.560 It's who's taming the devil.
00:22:36.280 Let me explain that real quick.
00:22:37.500 So women find themselves most attracted to a man when they have to tame the devil inside of him. 0.83
00:22:42.260 That's why they go for these Tyrones and Chads, right? 1.00
00:22:44.020 It's like, oh, the guy's got this streak of things.
00:22:46.040 And a woman thinks, I can save him. 1.00
00:22:48.100 I can be the one that bring him out of hell.
00:22:50.040 I can be the one to build him into the angel he can be.
00:22:53.460 So the woman is trying to tame the devil. 1.00
00:22:55.240 And that keeps the relationship together.
00:22:56.880 But when it works the other way, when a man is trying to tame the devil and a woman, I can rescue her from her life. 0.97
00:23:02.400 I can give her the life.
00:23:03.360 Because she's a single mom. 0.73
00:23:06.040 I can help her now.
00:23:06.800 And that's where everything breaks down.
00:23:08.520 So, like, as a man, you have to make yourself dangerous.
00:23:12.060 And then it works.
00:23:14.260 In a powerful man situation, when you've got money, you've got status, all those things, yes.
00:23:19.440 But when you're talking about younger girls with, like, the Chads and the guys, those guys are the ones that younger girls are trying to tame and think, oh, he'll change for me.
00:23:27.540 He'll love me.
00:23:28.600 You can't keep those relationships together.
00:23:30.360 The woman can never keep that relationship together. 1.00
00:23:32.300 Because that guy doesn't have to choose you.
00:23:33.980 And he isn't going to choose you.
00:23:35.100 Well, my wife, hang on a second. 0.99
00:23:36.220 And then, like, when my wife married me, I was making well over a million dollars a year.
00:23:39.300 And I was, like, I met her at 26.
00:23:41.140 And she got me to commit.
00:23:43.540 And honestly, very happily.
00:23:44.780 But are you a Chad?
00:23:46.640 Yes, I think so.
00:23:48.200 If you don't think so, that's fine.
00:23:49.380 You don't have to think so.
00:23:50.340 I was, let's see, 26 years old, 6 foot 4, playing ice hockey four times a week, making 1.6 million dollars a year.
00:23:56.160 At 26, that was me.
00:23:57.960 And so, you don't have to think I was a Chad.
00:24:00.000 I'm talking about, though, when you were in, like, in your...
00:24:01.560 Was I getting chicks? 0.98
00:24:02.740 Yeah, lots.
00:24:03.920 Okay, but...
00:24:04.720 I'm not saying that, like...
00:24:06.220 No, I'm like, I was.
00:24:06.940 I was.
00:24:07.620 Any man with money gets gold.
00:24:09.500 Back to generally.
00:24:10.540 Forget about the men with money.
00:24:11.960 They didn't even know.
00:24:12.460 They didn't know I had it.
00:24:13.620 Talk about normal situations, normal life, normal going out to the club.
00:24:18.080 I have never met a million, you know, millionaires and things like that.
00:24:20.820 So, I'm not talking about that.
00:24:22.360 But generally, those guys, you've, like, killed my point.
00:24:26.740 Because I've...
00:24:27.540 Listen, the point was to kill your point.
00:24:30.720 No, no, no.
00:24:31.160 Because here's the thing.
00:24:32.140 Because you think I'm wrong.
00:24:33.000 Listen, 85% of millionaires are married.
00:24:35.120 85% of billionaires are married.
00:24:37.640 The marriage statistics for men actually go up the wealthier they are.
00:24:40.340 And the divorce rates go down the wealthier a man is.
00:24:42.920 So, what should a man's goal be if he truly wants to build a happy, successful life?
00:24:46.020 It's to get more money.
00:24:47.480 Well, because you'll say it's the men that won't settle down.
00:24:51.280 But it's more like the women probably just aren't good enough. 1.00
00:24:54.200 Yeah, no, I possibly.
00:24:56.860 For those men, you know, I've watched one once and it's men date down, women date up or sleep up. 0.90
00:25:02.920 And I agree with that 100%.
00:25:04.960 So, that's probably the case as well.
00:25:07.880 That he's sleeping with you, but he won't consider you as a wife.
00:25:10.520 And there were lots of women like that in my life. 1.00
00:25:12.260 And that's fine.
00:25:12.780 They just didn't meet the criteria that I wanted for a wife. 1.00
00:25:15.080 Yeah.
00:25:15.280 But I'm, so you, obviously you talk a lot from the man's perspective, but we could also teach women not to even look at those guys because they're not. 0.97
00:25:22.660 Like, if you're not.
00:25:23.280 No, no, no, you absolutely, I have two daughters.
00:25:25.400 I'll tell you right now, 100% look at those guys.
00:25:27.700 100%. 1.00
00:25:28.140 Not the bitch, not the millionaire. 1.00
00:25:29.100 I'm talking about the ones that aren't millionaires. 1.00
00:25:31.900 Ambition.
00:25:32.220 Who just have swag.
00:25:33.460 She's talking about, are you talking about the broke, the broke guy?
00:25:37.040 Yes.
00:25:37.260 She's talking about the hot broke guys.
00:25:38.480 Yes.
00:25:39.480 She's talking about hot broke guys.
00:25:40.240 Hot broke guys.
00:25:41.820 With swag, with charisma.
00:25:43.020 With all the drip.
00:25:44.180 But it's the spay.
00:25:44.860 Because they can't even afford anything else.
00:25:46.860 They don't even have drip where I come from.
00:25:48.460 Yeah.
00:25:48.600 They can't even afford their rent, but they can afford a pair of blue.
00:25:50.980 Well, that's the danger.
00:25:52.940 That's the, I think dating is more difficult for women than it is for men. 0.55
00:25:56.400 And the reason I believe it's more difficult for women is because you're putting yourself in a position where, like, if you commit to the wrong guy or give yourself the wrong guy. 1.00
00:26:04.360 A, it will lower your value for the next high value guy.
00:26:07.280 And B, you can lose your market value as that time passes.
00:26:10.180 Right?
00:26:10.560 Yep.
00:26:10.760 So women have to be, you can be attracted to those guys and everything, but it's like, you have to draw the line of where do you think your chances are for potential relationship with this man? 0.97
00:26:19.820 And I also know a couple of girls used to work in our company. 1.00
00:26:22.480 Like, one example, she was 22, 23, one of the most beautiful girls I've ever seen.
00:26:26.700 She was working in our company.
00:26:27.480 She was an amazing salesperson, right?
00:26:29.560 Met a guy now.
00:26:30.300 She lives on a yacht in Monaco.
00:26:31.320 And that guy committed to her, and they're happy, and they've been together for a pretty long time.
00:26:35.460 And it's like, she was not only attractive and garnering attention, she was also a great judge of character and potential.
00:26:44.140 And that's the hard part.
00:26:45.360 It's like, it's easy for a guy to judge looks, but it's real hard for a woman to judge a man's character and potential. 0.74
00:26:50.700 But those men do exist.
00:26:52.020 85% of millionaires are married.
00:26:54.160 Statistically speaking, men who are married once and retired married have, I think, four times more money than men who get divorced and remarried.
00:27:04.220 But those that got divorced and remarried still have twice the amount of wealth.
00:27:07.420 So successful men actually marry.
00:27:09.000 And by the way, if you want to find a successful man, because the girls are like, oh, they're never married. 1.00
00:27:12.860 That's not true.
00:27:13.760 There's significant business, how do I put this?
00:27:20.140 There's positive business outcomes for men who are married because men want to do business with other men who are doing good things for the community, who are trustworthy and reliable.
00:27:28.160 So a lot of times when you're doing business, you ask the guy about his wife and his kids and his family, and you don't trust the guys so much that are 42 and single trying to get you to invest a million bucks.
00:27:36.060 You trust the guy that's 42 who's got a wife and three, four kids, and they've been married for 15 years.
00:27:40.660 That's the guy you trust.
00:27:41.640 So there's a lot of market pressure on the successful guys to do that.
00:27:45.660 You just have to be the right girl.
00:27:46.640 I've worked in this sex industry for a long time, and most of the men that come to me are rich, married men.
00:27:54.740 Yeah, exactly.
00:27:56.480 They're rich and they're married.
00:27:58.200 I don't get broke men.
00:27:59.600 It's the rich and the married men that are happy in their relationships, but you're not because you're finding pleasure somewhere else.
00:28:06.780 Wait, so I'm curious.
00:28:08.440 What do you do?
00:28:09.540 Is it the dominatrix stuff for them?
00:28:11.560 Dominatrix, come in. 1.00
00:28:12.640 Okay.
00:28:13.400 Stripper. 1.00
00:28:14.020 So how do you know how much money they make?
00:28:15.480 Because they tell me.
00:28:17.460 I've been to their houses before.
00:28:18.720 Oh, so you're-
00:28:19.340 Yeah, and I see all their girlfriends and their wives' pictures all nicely set up.
00:28:23.320 Okay, so you'll go to their actual house and like, I'm sorry, I don't, dominatrix stuff, like when you-
00:28:27.780 You know what that is. 0.70
00:28:28.900 When you're horrible.
00:28:30.020 I've seen like a wolf of Wall Street.
00:28:34.060 Is that like that stuff?
00:28:35.360 Um, I'd say a bit more extreme, like making men eat from the toilet.
00:28:40.680 Oh my goodness.
00:28:42.740 Yeah, men pay for this.
00:28:44.120 Rich men.
00:28:44.880 People in the politics, okay?
00:28:46.580 People who do politics and stuff.
00:28:48.220 You'll find them all there. 0.99
00:28:49.560 They want you to hit them and make them eat from the toilet. 0.96
00:28:52.500 Can I ask you a question? 0.98
00:28:53.300 And they go home to their wife and kiss them. 0.91
00:28:55.100 Can I ask you?
00:28:56.360 Are these two questions?
00:28:57.740 I'm actually really interested.
00:28:58.420 So number one, are these guys that you would find conventionally charismatic and attractive or like they would get other chicks anyways or they would not? 0.53
00:29:04.820 I've had very good looking men and very ugly men.
00:29:08.180 Second question, the very good looking men, is there a risk? 0.74
00:29:10.720 Because one thing that you offer, like my friend says this, that a sex worker offers, it's not the sex that they offer, it's the privacy.
00:29:18.380 It's like the fact that there's not going to be leaking out.
00:29:20.800 Yeah, yeah.
00:29:21.080 Are these good looking guys and get other chicks, for them is it because it's just a safer way to do it?
00:29:26.160 Yeah, maybe.
00:29:27.160 Yeah, because they may be political.
00:29:28.980 Because they know that I probably won't go out and speak to them and they can confide in me because they know I don't know them, they don't know me, and they could block my number and never talk to me again.
00:29:37.780 And I'd never be able to contact them anyway.
00:29:40.140 So they're paying for privacy.
00:29:41.120 Do you have to sign NDAs or anything?
00:29:44.200 Sometimes.
00:29:45.020 I mean, I've done it twice, only because one of the people that came to me actually knew him and I didn't want him to, you know, leak.
00:29:51.660 How many rich men have you, so you've done this for about three, three, four years.
00:29:56.160 How many rich men clients have you had?
00:29:59.980 I only see high class men, so all of them.
00:30:02.940 Wow.
00:30:03.340 Yeah, probably, not all of them, but a very, very high majority of them.
00:30:08.940 I reckon out of all of them, I've probably seen ten low class men.
00:30:13.220 Wow.
00:30:13.660 Because I don't like, like, I don't, in the job, I don't.
00:30:16.040 Is that because of, like, is that because of you, sorry, is that kind of because of your market specifically?
00:30:24.220 Like, or is that typical among, do you have friends that do the same thing?
00:30:27.860 I have quite a few friends that are in, like, the industry, but my main friends work their nine-to-fives and stuff.
00:30:36.040 But I meant, like, out of your other friends that do sex work, are their clients mostly rich, too?
00:30:41.120 Yeah.
00:30:41.900 Wow.
00:30:42.360 Yeah, I'd say so, yeah.
00:30:43.620 That's so surprising to me.
00:30:44.780 It's not surprising at all.
00:30:45.900 It makes perfect sense.
00:30:46.720 Now, by the way, just to be clear, just because all your clients are rich men does not mean that all rich men do that kind of thing, right?
00:30:52.400 Of course.
00:30:52.860 Statistically, it's about 20%.
00:30:54.460 20% of men that cheated the higher income bracket.
00:30:57.920 And statistically, it's about 20% of women in the lower income bracket. 1.00
00:31:00.560 But as a man's income goes up, his propensity to cheat grows from, like, 13% to about 20%. 0.78
00:31:05.220 It sort of levels out about $200,000.
00:31:07.200 And then for a woman, her propensity to cheat actually drops from 20 down to about 13 as a man's income goes to about $200,000. 0.92
00:31:13.100 I've looked at some, like, interesting charts about that.
00:31:14.840 But so I just want to be like, yes, that obviously exists, but it's not all rich men.
00:31:19.100 Yeah, it's not all.
00:31:19.820 But it makes sense that it would be rich men because they just, I think it's a financial thing.
00:31:23.400 Yeah.
00:31:23.800 Like, for a lot of guys to drop $500 could be a lot of money, but if it doesn't mean anything to you, it's like, whatever.
00:31:28.160 Yeah.
00:31:28.440 Yeah, what does it cost?
00:31:29.240 What do you cost?
00:31:30.580 It depends.
00:31:31.460 So, in half an hour, an hour overnight.
00:31:35.320 Is that cleaning?
00:31:35.940 Sorry, we're talking about it.
00:31:37.920 Dominatrix. 1.00
00:31:38.880 Toilet cleaning. 0.59
00:31:39.660 Because the dominatrix is non-sexual. 0.99
00:31:41.860 They're not allowed to touch you.
00:31:42.680 You're basically a goddess in their eyes, you know.
00:31:44.600 It's not like a school and service.
00:31:46.500 It's not like that.
00:31:47.140 So, overnight, I charge 1.5K for an hour, 300 pounds with a 100-pound deposit.
00:31:52.560 And that's not even including the extras because they want me to do really dirty things. 0.98
00:31:55.440 I put their head in the toilet or maybe poo on them. 1.00
00:32:00.000 I'm not ashamed of it. 0.99
00:32:01.300 I've done it.
00:32:02.220 I have done it.
00:32:03.020 No one's ever done it to me, but I have done it to them.
00:32:05.700 And I'll admit that.
00:32:06.600 You pooped on a guy. 0.67
00:32:08.040 Yeah.
00:32:08.380 Was he a good-looking guy?
00:32:09.860 Yeah, he actually was.
00:32:11.800 He actually was.
00:32:12.660 No, I just want to know.
00:32:13.460 No, I know.
00:32:14.120 It feels more wrong.
00:32:15.100 You don't want to meet him in the street and be like, I think he's nice.
00:32:17.240 It feels more wrong when they're good-looking for some reason because it feels like they
00:32:21.420 shouldn't even be there.
00:32:22.440 Yeah.
00:32:22.920 You know?
00:32:23.560 And I say to them, why are you here?
00:32:25.420 They say, because it's just easier.
00:32:26.800 And I like my fetishes. 0.98
00:32:28.640 And you know you said about the fat women. 0.99
00:32:30.120 There's so many men that have a fetish of fat women, but they won't admit it to the public 0.96
00:32:36.000 because it's shameful. 0.98
00:32:37.860 But they love it.
00:32:38.700 That's what I was...
00:32:39.480 They love it.
00:32:39.860 But they're not marrying them.
00:32:40.880 The rubber, the market value is the marriage.
00:32:42.700 They're not marrying them.
00:32:43.920 But...
00:32:44.240 I look at things on extremes.
00:32:45.240 By the way, when I...
00:32:46.080 I think they're ashamed to marry them.
00:32:47.500 That's why. 0.97
00:32:48.220 When I said earlier, just because a guy wants to crap on you and that's like, whatever, 0.64
00:32:51.260 you crap on them and that's like, you don't consider... 0.88
00:32:53.560 I was being like... 1.00
00:32:54.520 You didn't know.
00:32:54.920 Yeah, I was being like...
00:32:56.180 That was a hyperbole.
00:32:57.000 I was really exaggerating.
00:32:58.460 This guy's got really real.
00:33:00.460 It has happened. 0.99
00:33:01.400 Do guys ever pay to like crap on the girls? 0.99
00:33:04.940 They do, but I'd never do that. 0.99
00:33:06.800 I'm the one that's in the power.
00:33:08.280 No man could ever do that to me.
00:33:09.940 Even if he was Chris Brown or whatever.
00:33:12.800 No one...
00:33:13.740 See, this is what I find.
00:33:14.800 I find this perplexing because it's...
00:33:17.520 You know, so a rich guy will marry the high value woman, but he still wants what he wants. 0.98
00:33:23.880 Yeah, it's confusing.
00:33:25.380 So this is what I find.
00:33:26.740 So you go out...
00:33:27.000 You might like steak every day, but every now and then you got to get a McDonald's.
00:33:30.940 You know what I mean?
00:33:33.400 Every now and then McDonald's is nice.
00:33:36.020 I feel like that's why I get a bit confused because where I get the really high class men
00:33:39.740 come to me sometimes, it confuses me because I'm like, you shouldn't be here.
00:33:43.820 So they don't want that.
00:33:44.760 So in my eyes, they don't want the high value.
00:33:46.740 The high value woman is for their own ego. 1.00
00:33:49.680 No, the high value woman is for their children. 1.00
00:33:51.320 It's for the show.
00:33:52.020 For the children.
00:33:52.780 Not for the show, for the children.
00:33:53.720 Yeah, and obviously, it's good if you're with a really high class person, it makes
00:33:58.740 yourself look better as well because whoever you're with reflects on who you are as a
00:34:02.160 person as well.
00:34:03.180 I just think it's like what they want long term.
00:34:05.860 Like I think men will always crave variety, which sometimes is whales, I guess.
00:34:11.160 Yeah, yeah.
00:34:12.120 I don't know.
00:34:13.520 Yeah, but a fetish is always a good thing.
00:34:15.900 I don't know.
00:34:16.360 There's a reason why they hide that.
00:34:17.800 A thousand fetishes.
00:34:18.500 They're not...
00:34:19.500 Not every fetish needs to be played out.
00:34:22.940 Exactly. 0.97
00:34:24.520 There's even a fetish and guys will pay you to pop balloons with your bum cheeks. 0.83
00:34:29.720 And it's like, what? 0.80
00:34:31.120 Why?
00:34:31.900 Like, how does that turn?
00:34:33.840 Like, how does that...
00:34:35.440 I don't know.
00:34:36.020 It's weird.
00:34:36.200 That's definitely childhood trauma.
00:34:37.120 And all these people, all these men that do come to me, it does root down to some sort
00:34:42.380 of childhood issue or trauma.
00:34:43.960 It definitely does because even like the whole dominatrix thing where they like being hurt,
00:34:48.480 abused, and called horrible names.
00:34:51.880 They've got issues.
00:34:53.260 They've got a lot of issues.
00:34:55.080 And they're issues that they need to obviously get some help.
00:34:57.760 Maybe it's like mommy issues or something.
00:35:01.480 Maybe.
00:35:01.920 Yeah.
00:35:02.700 Like, I've had men cry to me before and sit in my lap.
00:35:04.980 What do they cry to you about?
00:35:06.040 Just their life.
00:35:07.360 They've got money and they hate their life.
00:35:09.020 And they're always on drugs.
00:35:11.120 Like, what do they say?
00:35:12.320 What are their problems?
00:35:13.440 Just that they're not happy in their marriage.
00:35:15.620 They're always working.
00:35:16.700 They're always stressed.
00:35:18.000 They're always on...
00:35:19.480 Do you know why they're not happy in their marriage?
00:35:22.380 Like, what are their complaints?
00:35:23.400 I mean, I don't really go to and I just kind of just let them cry on me.
00:35:27.600 Wow.
00:35:28.000 But yeah, no, because after that I need my own therapy when I deal with men like that.
00:35:32.260 But yeah.
00:35:33.660 Yeah.
00:35:34.460 That's what I mean.
00:35:35.240 So it's very mentally draining for me to do this job.
00:35:37.780 And I know I shouldn't be in it because it's like I'm taking on everyone else's trauma and I need to deal with mine first.
00:35:43.020 So yeah.
00:35:43.860 Just a caveat.
00:35:44.740 Like, again, because all these guys come to you doesn't mean that all guys that are like that do go to that kind of a service.
00:35:49.000 The reality is that wealthier people do report a significantly higher statistical mean of being satisfied with their life.
00:35:57.320 And they report a significantly higher happiness sort of index to their marriage, which is again why 85% of millionaires are married.
00:36:05.600 So what you're reporting is not actually the norm.
00:36:07.680 That is the fringe of that.
00:36:09.200 It just is.
00:36:09.780 I just want guys to understand it.
00:36:10.860 Because there's some guys here listening like, oh, see, that's why I don't want to be successful because I'm just going to be sad.
00:36:14.780 No.
00:36:15.140 Statistically, you'll be way happier.
00:36:17.060 You'll be way happier.
00:36:18.460 Just trust me, guys.
00:36:19.400 Build yourself.
00:36:19.960 Oh, no, definitely, definitely, yeah.
00:36:22.200 I feel like you just get the odd rich men who obviously aren't doing it the right way.
00:36:26.320 They're abusing themselves with drugs and things like that.
00:36:29.160 Not everyone loves their life, you know.
00:36:31.040 They'd rather cry in a Ferrari.
00:36:32.220 Yeah.
00:36:33.560 Yeah.
00:36:34.260 Yeah.
00:36:36.560 Okay, for the guys, have you ever stopped dating a girl because of her past?
00:36:41.760 Yeah.
00:36:43.000 What happened?
00:36:43.960 What did you find out?
00:36:46.000 So I found out, I was 18, found out that the girl,
00:36:49.960 Can you pull the mic, bro?
00:36:52.900 Yeah, is that better for you?
00:36:53.980 Tell it.
00:36:55.620 Yeah.
00:36:56.560 Okay, cool.
00:36:58.540 18, I found out the girl had slept with, like, multiple men.
00:37:03.740 And this was through a conversation that I had heard from one of my friends saying,
00:37:09.120 Oh, what's that girl? 1.00
00:37:11.340 Like, I know she's been with, like, this guy and that guy.
00:37:14.620 And as soon as I heard that, I said to the girl,
00:37:16.840 Why did you tell me a strange number?
00:37:18.200 You told me this number.
00:37:19.200 And now I'm finding out it's more than likely this.
00:37:22.800 And she broke down and said, Oh, I didn't want to talk to you about all these girls and blah, 0.85
00:37:26.300 all these men, sorry, blah, blah, blah.
00:37:27.860 And for me, that was the end of it.
00:37:29.840 Why do women say body count doesn't matter if they don't want to tell you what it is? 1.00
00:37:33.540 Exactly.
00:37:33.920 It does matter.
00:37:34.620 As far as I'm concerned, it does matter.
00:37:36.640 A woman wouldn't tell you, I've slept with 8,000 men and I still want to be with you.
00:37:42.960 She won't say that at all.
00:37:44.180 A woman will keep it at a certain level. 1.00
00:37:46.140 Like, I understand what you're saying about it doesn't matter, it shouldn't matter, et cetera.
00:37:49.600 But when push comes to shove, if you get the ideal man in front of you, you're not going to tell him,
00:37:54.360 I have slept with 800 men.
00:37:57.280 You're not going to do that.
00:37:58.240 There is no woman on this earth that's actually going to do that. 0.99
00:38:00.780 You're going to downplay it or you're going to gaslight, like you were saying before,
00:38:04.140 and you're going to say, actually, do you know why you're asking me these questions?
00:38:06.940 It's the modern day era.
00:38:08.280 You shouldn't ask me this.
00:38:09.180 That's what I think is going to happen.
00:38:10.600 There's actually something we say that's kind of funny.
00:38:12.900 I'm like, there is a kind of girl that will lie about her number and lie up, and that's a whale. 1.00
00:38:20.200 And it's sad.
00:38:23.760 Why are you nodding now?
00:38:25.280 You're a Mr. Flip Flopper on the couch.
00:38:29.520 Like, me personally, I think, like, because me, I've broke it off one time with a girl,
00:38:38.080 but it was mainly, it wasn't even the body count.
00:38:40.880 Like, I knew it was high-ish, but it's like doing something with someone I know, I think.
00:38:48.900 Who was it?
00:38:50.840 It wasn't like a, it was a friend, but he's not like one of the brothers,
00:38:55.140 but it's like a friend, like I know him.
00:38:56.980 But it's more like you've done stuff for him, and I don't think I can be with you after that.
00:39:03.360 Like, I know what he's like as a person, you know what I mean?
00:39:05.440 You're eating the same hole.
00:39:07.360 You're sharing the hole.
00:39:09.700 Is he kind of like a player, the guy?
00:39:11.500 Yeah, he's more like a player.
00:39:12.840 Like, I know him from being a player, you know what I mean?
00:39:14.860 But it's like you've been with him.
00:39:17.200 I mean, like, for me, my, like, standards, I think that's where, like, standards comes in.
00:39:21.740 Like, you've been with that guy, and now I'm with you.
00:39:24.920 Like, I'm more like, what's going on?
00:39:26.460 You know what I mean?
00:39:27.060 But I think that was one of my, like... 0.98
00:39:29.000 Was he kind of a loser?
00:39:29.940 Like, was it because he was more high status than you or less high status? 0.97
00:39:33.300 I think it was because he was less.
00:39:34.780 Okay.
00:39:35.780 So if you thought he was a quality guy, would it have been different?
00:39:39.960 Um, I wouldn't think it would have been different, but just because I know him,
00:39:44.840 I think that makes a big difference.
00:39:47.260 If I didn't know the person, then probably, like, I would have been like,
00:39:50.500 okay, fair enough, that can slide.
00:39:51.940 I don't know.
00:39:52.260 Oh, but because you knew him.
00:39:53.380 Just because I know him personally, it's like, that guy, really.
00:39:56.820 You know what I mean?
00:39:57.380 Uh, what about you?
00:39:58.280 Have you ever stopped speaking to a woman because of some things she did before?
00:40:02.200 Uh, no, that never happened to me.
00:40:03.900 I only had one girl, which was, like, a secondary, so it wasn't a proper relationship.
00:40:08.680 That's about it.
00:40:09.800 Okay.
00:40:10.160 Yeah.
00:40:11.180 Um, did you have any other girls that happened to you, or the one?
00:40:14.340 Yeah, I just learned to recognize, it's like, you just learned to recognize the sign quicker.
00:40:17.160 Uh, but, you know, as a man, when I was single, it doesn't mean that I disqualified her from sex.
00:40:21.080 It just means, um, that's what it was, and that's all it was.
00:40:24.500 What, what signs for guys that are watching this, like, what signs should they look out for?
00:40:28.980 Man, that's a, I mean, I'm gonna, yeah, tattoos would be a pretty big sign.
00:40:33.660 Um, just any, like, I'll tell you why tattoos are big, so you might say, well, that's not nice,
00:40:37.120 because I have tattoos.
00:40:37.640 I'll tell you why it's a big sign, because if you had a good relationship with your dad,
00:40:40.480 he would not let you get tattoos when you were 18.
00:40:42.580 No, that's what it means.
00:40:43.620 That's what, that's what, that's why I don't have tattoos.
00:40:46.160 Right?
00:40:46.440 Yeah.
00:40:46.720 It's like, that's literally, it's like, it just tells me you don't have a good relationship
00:40:49.180 with your dad, which it doesn't mean for everybody, but it raises those numbers.
00:40:52.020 There's, there's obviously, um, the thing about social intelligence, it's very hard to
00:40:56.140 describe it because it's so nuanced, like, and you really have to sort of, um, conflate
00:41:01.720 a big number of variables all into one, and that's what comprises, like, the social
00:41:04.980 intelligence thing.
00:41:05.640 So it's hard to say, like, oh, because of this and this and this and that.
00:41:08.660 Um, but there's definitely signs, and when you know, you know.
00:41:11.080 But it's like, the dad thing, well, like, what if she didn't have a dad?
00:41:15.760 Like, how would you?
00:41:16.560 It's not our fault he goes to the shop and don't come back.
00:41:18.500 You know what I mean?
00:41:18.880 Like, what if she didn't have a dad?
00:41:19.900 Like, how would you look at her?
00:41:20.620 Well, that also tells me, of course, look, I'm not saying it's her fault, it's still her
00:41:23.860 responsibility.
00:41:24.740 I understand it's not her fault, but it is her responsibility.
00:41:27.180 And it may be like, well, I was young, whatever.
00:41:28.760 Okay, fine.
00:41:29.200 I'm not responsible for that, thank you.
00:41:30.720 I'm not.
00:41:31.460 You are now.
00:41:32.520 You are responsible for your life.
00:41:34.360 You are responsible for your life now.
00:41:35.380 I know, you're not responsible for that, but even when I hear you talk, like, you sort
00:41:40.940 of blame it on everyone else but you.
00:41:42.860 Like, you kind of blame, like, your situation and, like, this is, like, instead of, it's
00:41:47.400 my life choices.
00:41:49.800 Who have I blamed?
00:41:51.840 It was just earlier when you were saying it's because of, like, this or because of that.
00:41:55.480 No, it adds to it.
00:41:56.560 My, my, my, my trolling stuff, it's kind of moulded me into a bit of a mess and I'll
00:42:02.080 admit that.
00:42:02.540 I think she means, like, if you, if you get, like, a young guy who doesn't have his dad
00:42:06.040 there, some of those guys end up, like, alcoholics in prison and some of them end up, like, amazing
00:42:10.120 dads.
00:42:11.100 Do you know what I mean?
00:42:11.580 So, like, you can come from the same background and have two different, completely, and that's
00:42:15.680 choices.
00:42:16.560 Yeah, definitely is life choices.
00:42:17.860 Not getting at you, but that's just what she means.
00:42:20.120 I came from a life which was, if I put, like I said, I've put it on camera before and
00:42:25.100 what, the reaction from people, I came from a life that was an absolute mess and I chose
00:42:30.760 not to go down a certain path.
00:42:32.220 Like, I didn't want to be, like, the man that brought me into this world and I didn't want
00:42:36.000 to be and let my mum down, even though my mum, I haven't seen her for 13 years because
00:42:40.380 she's schizophrenic.
00:42:41.420 So, I decide I'm not going to prison.
00:42:43.480 So, I have no remorse for people when they say, oh, well, this happened, so, therefore,
00:42:48.560 I've become this, I've got no remorse for that because you don't have to.
00:42:51.260 One of the best women I know came from a single parent home and she was abused as a kid and 1.00
00:42:55.900 she's, like, genuinely one of the best women I know because she, like, went to the church
00:42:58.880 and she sought after, like, women she could look up to and she ended up getting married
00:43:02.600 and having a family, but it's, like, you can go down, you can be from the same situation
00:43:06.040 and have completely different life outcomes and that's what he's saying.
00:43:09.440 He's saying, like, it's your responsibility what you do with your life.
00:43:11.760 It's your responsibility, but not everyone's strong.
00:43:14.540 Like, not everyone has that mindset.
00:43:16.840 Some people are actually weak and I'll admit it, I've had times in my life where I've felt
00:43:20.660 so weak, I don't want to be anymore.
00:43:22.040 But why would a guy want to be with a girl that's weak? 0.99
00:43:24.640 Well, don't be with me.
00:43:25.560 You know, I'm not, but I'm saying that's his point.
00:43:28.140 Yeah, yeah, okay, cool, cool, cool.
00:43:29.420 When he's speaking to men, like, a lot of men watch this show, it's, like, these are the
00:43:33.180 signs and it's not, even for women, like, honestly, like, I think it's better to date 0.99
00:43:38.360 people from two-parent homes if you can.
00:43:39.940 Yeah, no, definitely, definitely, definitely.
00:43:41.760 Yeah, because it's easier when you've had a model, like, something you look up to.
00:43:45.100 Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
00:43:45.580 There is a way.
00:43:46.580 So I've spent a significant amount of my time in my youth thinking about this because I realized
00:43:51.540 that I was a really bad judge of character of women.
00:43:53.640 Because when I was, like, young, like, coming out of high school, going to college and stuff,
00:43:56.480 I remember the girls I was falling for and trying to be in relationships with, they just
00:44:00.580 were horrible people.
00:44:01.940 And I thank, I thank the good Lord above every day that I didn't get what I wanted
00:44:06.540 when I wanted it at 20.
00:44:08.080 Because if I had gotten what I wanted, I would have signed up for a life of massive regret.
00:44:11.200 And you see a lot of those guys, they get married young and then they just get wiped
00:44:14.560 out, right?
00:44:15.620 And sometimes, you know, I'll go on the show and then guys will comment like, that guy
00:44:18.780 is going to get what's coming to him, blah, blah, blah.
00:44:21.180 It's like, no, and I'll tell you why not.
00:44:23.040 Here's, here's, if you're a guy, here's how you can tell what a girl is like, okay?
00:44:27.220 Make it your mission to go out in your early 20s and, and just sleep with as many girls 0.99
00:44:31.940 as you can.
00:44:32.580 And you might say, that's horrible advice.
00:44:33.860 No, that's great advice.
00:44:35.080 Because what you're going to learn, first of all, you're going to learn about the nature
00:44:38.080 of women.
00:44:39.080 And I'm not saying do that for your whole life.
00:44:40.900 Like, eventually you will grow up.
00:44:42.320 Eventually you will want to pursue a higher purpose.
00:44:45.820 But in order to pursue that higher purpose valiantly, you have to understand the game you're
00:44:51.080 playing.
00:44:51.540 And you don't understand the game you're playing if you've been with one or two girls.
00:44:54.960 And you might say, that's bad advice.
00:44:56.120 No, that's exactly the advice I'll give my sons.
00:44:57.680 Now I'll give my daughters the opposite advice.
00:44:59.680 If you want to know about the seriousness of men, don't put out with them.
00:45:03.200 Absolutely.
00:45:03.780 Then you'll absolutely learn what men are really after.
00:45:05.920 But if you want to learn what women are after, go out as a man. 0.96
00:45:08.480 Remember, it's not your job to protect the sexual marketplace as a man.
00:45:11.340 It's the woman's job to protect the, she's the guardian to that. 0.99
00:45:14.500 You're the guardian to relationships.
00:45:15.760 You want to get socially intelligent?
00:45:17.640 Do it lots of times.
00:45:21.280 What do you guys agree with that or disagree?
00:45:22.880 I know what he's saying, but obviously back when, say, my nan and granddad got married,
00:45:27.020 my granddad picked a lady and they were like teenagers, got married.
00:45:31.120 Back in those days, marriages worked without men having to go and do that. 1.00
00:45:35.640 So it isn't the only way, but I do understand.
00:45:38.000 But the difference is women today aren't the women of love.
00:45:39.560 No, no, no, no.
00:45:40.160 Absolutely.
00:45:40.500 The women are, like, that's what I realized. 1.00
00:45:42.380 Because I used to hear that.
00:45:43.400 Like, I'd hear Myron say, sleep with 50 women before you settle down. 1.00
00:45:46.320 I'm like, why would you do that?
00:45:47.600 But what I realized is, like, men can be manipulated by a woman that's more experienced than him.
00:45:53.640 Like, you know, imagine you date a virgin, right?
00:45:56.720 You would eat him up. 0.79
00:45:58.500 She's smiling.
00:45:59.440 You would get him to do exactly what you wanted when you want.
00:46:02.620 Yeah, yeah.
00:46:03.180 She's smiling.
00:46:03.720 I can understand that.
00:46:05.120 Yeah.
00:46:05.320 And so it's like, it's not good for us to be in relationships with men that have less experience than us.
00:46:10.000 No, I do agree.
00:46:10.860 The guy has got to be more experienced, more powerful, more anything.
00:46:14.100 The woman has got to feel lower. 1.00
00:46:17.040 And she has to tame your devil. 1.00
00:46:19.160 She has to tame your devil, not you tame him. 0.98
00:46:21.440 But not an actual devil.
00:46:23.480 Well, it's a danger.
00:46:25.320 It's a danger.
00:46:26.260 It is.
00:46:26.820 It is.