OF Model Shared Her STORY
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Summary
In this episode I speak to a dominatrix who has been in the sex industry for a long time. She talks about her experience with sex work and how she got her start in the industry. We also discuss why nice guys don t get the girls and why nice girls get the guys.
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A year, I'd say maybe, not on OF, but altogether maybe, I'd say about 50k.
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I don't overdo it because when I was a bit younger, I overworked.
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And that's when I was in a really bad place, I overdid it.
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I haven't come from a big family, haven't come from a stable family at all.
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And for me, it was because I was getting £400 a week from the care home.
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And I was working 12-hour shifts and five days a week.
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If I could sit here and regret doing sex work, I probably would regret it.
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Only because of the stuff I put on the internet as well.
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And you shouldn't have to do them things for money.
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To, you know, you're losing your, not morals, but...
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And I feel like where I was a bit younger and I was getting too excited because of the money,
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I kind of lost the control and now I'm in this situation.
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If you think you're a high value woman, how does a man get you?
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I think definitely every man should go to the gym because that's the first thing a woman looks at.
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You don't even have to be particularly good looking, but if you're fit and you've got,
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you look like you can protect someone, you've got presence in a room, then that works straight away.
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And then if you're, you have to be more than that.
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So if you're funny, it helps if you've got charisma, if you've got a good job, if you've got drive.
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And then I think the soft, nice stuff actually probably comes last or the cuddly.
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I think you need it a bit, but I think when men start with that and that, you know,
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you go out with the nice guy and he gets you flowers, but he's not strong and he's not driven.
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And it kind of makes you feel a bit sickly that they get you the flowers and they're nice to you all the time.
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Honestly, and that sounds, but that's why nice guys don't get the girl.
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It's because they have nothing else to compete on.
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It's because it's the easiest thing to project, but it doesn't require sacrifice.
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But it's not that, because I was thinking earlier that if those guys just went to the gym and got a bit more presence,
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that's easier than trying to get those guys to be nice and lovely and, you know, and potentially commit.
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Like, so, you know, we always go for those guys hoping that they're going to choose us when actually they can choose from so many women and they don't care and they don't have any rush to settle down.
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Why are they going to do that for us as opposed to, sorry, they're nicer guys.
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Because if you get a guy in the middle, it's kind of like a five across the board, he can kind of like boost up a bit.
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I think if I see my man treat his mom with respect, you know, treat, treat his, the women in his family, how they should be treated.
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Because I've seen a lot of guys and they, they're horrible to their parents.
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So, uh, let's say listen to what women do and not say.
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Yeah, he was nice to his mom, but he also liked to do a lot of really bad things.
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But that is definitely a big thing though still.
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So, you want to get laid, be nice to your mother, and shower.
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Going to say it because I need to feel stable as well, you know.
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And I feel like I'm looking after myself all the time.
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And you actually just want a nice masculine man to take care of you.
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So, you're looking for a man in another country.
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So, hopefully, he's got his businesses all settled.
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I've got a lot of issues I need to sort out before I can never get a partner.
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I think all the women I know that go to therapy get worse.
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But the only reason I'm getting this therapy is because it's free at the moment.
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So a guy's going to tell you if I have this problem, let's say you solve it.
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But I've also had a men therapist that have made me feel really uncomfortable and flirted
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So to me, I'll feel more comfortable with a woman.
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What's your social media and things like that, you know?
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Making me feel uncomfortable because everyone...
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Do you think that helps or hurts with your mental health?
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Because at that moment, I'm in like a bit of a loophole where it's a bit hard to come
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Where I'm just used to money being thrown at me.
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I'm scared to go back into a normal job routine.
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You know, I don't overdo it because when I was a bit younger, I overworked.
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Well, I'm just thinking if you want to get out...
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So like it might help to get some savings so then you can...
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And I feel like everyone's journey is different.
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Some people have a really good life and some people don't have a good life.
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I used to work in a care home and I was actually very depressed, very low.
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And I had my ex-boyfriend at the time that used to...
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And even like we'd go out for meals and he'd say,
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And I used to think to myself like, I care for you.
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And then I worked in the care home and I was sitting there one day
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And then I was sitting there and speaking to one of the old guys
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And I told him my whole plan about starting the OnlyFans, you know.
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You're going to be old like me one day, sitting in a chair.
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But he didn't make it till that time because he passed away a few months after.
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Probably about a year and a half when I stopped.
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So I was working in the care home and then I started it.
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And I knew that if I started the OF, my ex would leave me alone
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And I knew that he'd really leave me alone because we were so toxic together.
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And for me, it was because I was getting 400 pounds a week from the care home.
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And I was working 12-hour shifts and five days a week.
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And then I said to my manager, I need to leave work.
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So why did you pick that route instead of like, I don't know, marrying rich?
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So you couldn't have been, I mean, you probably weren't streeting that much if you were with
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I feel like when you're in a young relationship, you don't even know who you are as a person
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You could have got married, ruined someone else's too.
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No, not everyone wants to get married and not everyone wants children.
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No, I just think it's like a shame because there's a way to utilize female beauty in
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a different way and still get the outcomes that you want.
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Like now you're in a position where it's going to be tough to ever be with a guy long term.
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Yeah, but maybe I don't want to be with a guy long term.
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Maybe I want to live with three cats at my home with all my cactuses.
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Maybe it will hit me, but it's not hitting me yet.
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I've got good family members and I've got friends.
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I don't think women, we realize how much we need attention from men.
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And so like right now you're still young, you're still attractive, you're still going
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But like at 40 to 50, women become basically invisible.
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And so if you don't get a husband before then, like what does life look like?
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Like if you don't start thinking long term, like what does your life look like?
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But it's like, you know, if you want to be in a position where you're happier, like
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wouldn't it make sense to maybe start put that away?
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I feel like there's so much in my life I'm trying to sort out first, like my mental health
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and my family issues and a lot of my childhood trauma that I still have to deal with daily.
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So I'm trying to sort that out first because I feel like I can't think straight at the
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You need to go through, like, because I never understand when people say childhood trauma,
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When I was younger, I was SA'd and it was my mom's boyfriend.
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So how long have you been going to therapy for it?
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I was going when I was 16 for a year and then I stopped before I didn't need it anymore.
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And then I've only been going for about five months now.
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Well, because it's just the sad thing about therapy is it just seems like they just
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kind of make money off of their patients instead of trying to get you guys out.
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And I think a lot of times that's like women doing it.
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I know maybe you had the bad experience with the guy, but it might make sense to try to find
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You know, just because like what does your future look like?
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And sometimes there are things that you can't actually get over.
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So looking at it endlessly makes you live in the moment.
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Yeah, I always feel like I wake up and I'm still living in the past still.
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But, you know, and I've just found that if I focus more on the future, you don't live
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You know, but like right now you're not even thinking like long term.
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Also, if you had a partner, one that was good for you, not just any old partner, if you
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were focused on them and they're focused on you, then you also wouldn't have to.
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I feel like that is why I do hate my job because I don't glamorize sex work at all.
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I think don't start it, it does ruin your life.
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It ruins your mentality and it ruins how you view men and how men should view you.
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So, yeah, if I could sit here and regret doing sex work, I probably would regret it.
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Only because of the stuff I put on the internet as well.
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And you shouldn't have to do them things for money to, you know, you're losing your,
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And I feel like where I was a bit younger and I was getting too excited because of the
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I kind of lost the control and now I'm in this situation.
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I'm just thinking there's like steps you could take to get out of it.
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Because, you know, it's like you can, you're able to make savings, put it away.
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Because I'm just thinking like you're a pretty girl.
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There's ways to monetize your beauty in a different way.
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You can start a YouTube channel and do reactions.
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And this is actually something, like I said, when I was dating a gal that turned out to be
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a stripper and like a really popular one, apparently, what really interested me in her
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psychology, she was probably the best person I've ever met at just reading men and just
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Like, I don't believe that anybody really knows human nature like sex workers do.
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She can look, she can look at a guy and I guarantee it.
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It's like, she can look at a guy and immediately know how much money he has.
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And like, and she knows she would, you know, you know, of course, because the gal
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I was with, she was like, she would look at a guy.
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She's like, I'm like, oh, that guy's my friend.
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She's like, oh, he would cheat on his wife in a minute.
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But coming, I know that you did not like sales and that's fine.
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We had a guy in our company that's like one of our top salespeople.
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But there is something to sales that I think is really, really important tying into this.
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I mean, obviously, like that's a battle you have to fight.
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Everybody has some trauma, not at the same level.
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Everybody's family is effed up in some way or another.
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And one thing I'm really glad about, like when I was 20 years old and I felt like I was
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And I think a lot of people, you know, at a young age feel like they're victims.
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The internet wasn't like a huge thing, which is kind of crazy.
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So we didn't have these podcasts to learn about life, which is why I appreciate what
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Pearl does so much because, you know, we get to learn about life.
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I was really, really lucky to take a sales position where people probably cared about the
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money I was making them more than they cared about me.
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But at least the steps that I needed to take to build myself included a significant amount
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of discipline, a significant amount of accountability and being honest with myself because I didn't
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So I had to be very brutally honest with myself and extremely disciplined.
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But what really helped was getting around another group of people around me that were
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disciplined and growing and they didn't resent my success.
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They celebrated my success and I celebrated their success.
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They said, hey, you failed, let's work together to make you better if you want to be better.
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And so one of the things actually we do in our company is, and I think Tate and those
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People like the war room was, I think that's brilliant.
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I think just giving men a place to meet other ambitious, successful or striving men.
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Like we bring guys in and we literally mold them and work with them to make them more accountable,
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They leave and they resent it because they don't like to be in an environment where they
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And as a man, I'm talking from a man's perspective, you don't have, like a woman can cry and still
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move into another man's life a couple of years later.
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And if you feel like you're a dude and you're a little bit victimized, it's time to step up
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I'm just thinking for you, you've been doing OF for three years.
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I haven't actually been doing it for three years.
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I've been, I did it for like really, I was on it for like a year and a half.
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And then the other two years, I had it, but I never put any effort into it.
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What I'm saying is right now, it's still, you can semi, you can semi get it off the internet.
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I'd never want to be a sex worker for the rest of my life.
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But I'm saying the way, the way you're on track, like that's what you're on track to do.
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Like not the cleaners, I've got the, what's it called?
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I'm like, you should get the OF girls to clean.
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You know, you know, Mr. Miyagi wipe the window.
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She's like, clean the window, clean the window.
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So my plan was to start a legit one first year.
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So I thought I can use the cleaners for that to start with.
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And then make a Twitter page and get the naughty maids in.
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And remember one time I was on your show a while ago.
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And the story was like, I told my wife we should get a cleaner.
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Because we have four kids and like a very large house with a lot of toys and stuff.
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And then the cleaner came and it was this like young Ukrainian girl.
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And she cleaned the house spotlessly and she was good looking.
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And my wife's like, I'm never inviting the cleaner.
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The women should be, you know, if you're a guy and your wife's not cleaning,
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Did you answer the question for how many bodies is too many for high value?
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And I knew about the statistics about the pair bonding.
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But you mentioned something about two being like the initial drop-off point.
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Honestly, I think that like women would be better if men raised their standards.
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I think men need to raise their standards for themselves.
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You know, like there's so many dudes that are, what is it like seven million men in the USA are on disability leave even though they're not disabled?
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It's like, you know, men gaming the social system in order to just smoke pot and play video games or whatever.
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Like part of this, I think the epidemic is not necessarily in men having low standards for women.
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I think it's men having low standards for themselves.
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And I think there's this narrative in society that like men should take on these feminine characteristics.
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You know, we have men competing in women's sports, which is like, and they see that as a virtue.
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No, but the reason they see it as a virtue, it's like, oh, well, a man should be sensitive.
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And then they go into women's sports and now they have to celebrate it.
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So I'm completely against the social movement of like feminizing men.
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I think that men, you know, we used to be conscripted into the army and we'd see horrible, horrible things in our early 20s.
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And we'd come back and we were hard men, you know?
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And I think society needs a little bit more of that.
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And I fully encourage men to take more responsibility for being higher on themselves.
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A woman isn't interested in you because of how you think of her.
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A woman is interested of you because of the man you are.
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Because I always think like women would never be single mothers and leave their husbands if they knew no one would take them.
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Well, there's a government bailout, which messes up a lot of things.
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There's actually something I was flying over here.
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And I was sort of thinking about this in a biblical sense, you know?
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So women find themselves most attracted to a man when they have to tame the devil inside of him.
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That's why they go for these Tyrones and Chads, right?
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It's like, oh, the guy's got this streak of things.
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I can be the one to build him into the angel he can be.
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But when it works the other way, when a man is trying to tame the devil and a woman, I can rescue her from her life.
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So, like, as a man, you have to make yourself dangerous.
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In a powerful man situation, when you've got money, you've got status, all those things, yes.
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But when you're talking about younger girls with, like, the Chads and the guys, those guys are the ones that younger girls are trying to tame and think, oh, he'll change for me.
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The woman can never keep that relationship together.
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And then, like, when my wife married me, I was making well over a million dollars a year.
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I was, let's see, 26 years old, 6 foot 4, playing ice hockey four times a week, making 1.6 million dollars a year.
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I'm talking about, though, when you were in, like, in your...
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Talk about normal situations, normal life, normal going out to the club.
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I have never met a million, you know, millionaires and things like that.
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But generally, those guys, you've, like, killed my point.
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The marriage statistics for men actually go up the wealthier they are.
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And the divorce rates go down the wealthier a man is.
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So, what should a man's goal be if he truly wants to build a happy, successful life?
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Well, because you'll say it's the men that won't settle down.
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But it's more like the women probably just aren't good enough.
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For those men, you know, I've watched one once and it's men date down, women date up or sleep up.
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That he's sleeping with you, but he won't consider you as a wife.
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And there were lots of women like that in my life.
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They just didn't meet the criteria that I wanted for a wife.
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But I'm, so you, obviously you talk a lot from the man's perspective, but we could also teach women not to even look at those guys because they're not.
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No, no, no, you absolutely, I have two daughters.
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I'll tell you right now, 100% look at those guys.
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I'm talking about the ones that aren't millionaires.
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She's talking about, are you talking about the broke, the broke guy?
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They can't even afford their rent, but they can afford a pair of blue.
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That's the, I think dating is more difficult for women than it is for men.
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And the reason I believe it's more difficult for women is because you're putting yourself in a position where, like, if you commit to the wrong guy or give yourself the wrong guy.
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A, it will lower your value for the next high value guy.
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And B, you can lose your market value as that time passes.
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So women have to be, you can be attracted to those guys and everything, but it's like, you have to draw the line of where do you think your chances are for potential relationship with this man?
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And I also know a couple of girls used to work in our company.
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Like, one example, she was 22, 23, one of the most beautiful girls I've ever seen.
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And that guy committed to her, and they're happy, and they've been together for a pretty long time.
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And it's like, she was not only attractive and garnering attention, she was also a great judge of character and potential.
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It's like, it's easy for a guy to judge looks, but it's real hard for a woman to judge a man's character and potential.
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Statistically speaking, men who are married once and retired married have, I think, four times more money than men who get divorced and remarried.
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But those that got divorced and remarried still have twice the amount of wealth.
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And by the way, if you want to find a successful man, because the girls are like, oh, they're never married.
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There's significant business, how do I put this?
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There's positive business outcomes for men who are married because men want to do business with other men who are doing good things for the community, who are trustworthy and reliable.
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So a lot of times when you're doing business, you ask the guy about his wife and his kids and his family, and you don't trust the guys so much that are 42 and single trying to get you to invest a million bucks.
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You trust the guy that's 42 who's got a wife and three, four kids, and they've been married for 15 years.
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So there's a lot of market pressure on the successful guys to do that.
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I've worked in this sex industry for a long time, and most of the men that come to me are rich, married men.
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It's the rich and the married men that are happy in their relationships, but you're not because you're finding pleasure somewhere else.
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Yeah, and I see all their girlfriends and their wives' pictures all nicely set up.
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Okay, so you'll go to their actual house and like, I'm sorry, I don't, dominatrix stuff, like when you-
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Um, I'd say a bit more extreme, like making men eat from the toilet.
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They want you to hit them and make them eat from the toilet.
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So number one, are these guys that you would find conventionally charismatic and attractive or like they would get other chicks anyways or they would not?
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I've had very good looking men and very ugly men.
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Second question, the very good looking men, is there a risk?
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Because one thing that you offer, like my friend says this, that a sex worker offers, it's not the sex that they offer, it's the privacy.
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It's like the fact that there's not going to be leaking out.
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Are these good looking guys and get other chicks, for them is it because it's just a safer way to do it?
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Because they know that I probably won't go out and speak to them and they can confide in me because they know I don't know them, they don't know me, and they could block my number and never talk to me again.
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I mean, I've done it twice, only because one of the people that came to me actually knew him and I didn't want him to, you know, leak.
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How many rich men have you, so you've done this for about three, three, four years.
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Yeah, probably, not all of them, but a very, very high majority of them.
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I reckon out of all of them, I've probably seen ten low class men.
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Because I don't like, like, I don't, in the job, I don't.
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Is that because of, like, is that because of you, sorry, is that kind of because of your market specifically?
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Like, or is that typical among, do you have friends that do the same thing?
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I have quite a few friends that are in, like, the industry, but my main friends work their nine-to-fives and stuff.
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But I meant, like, out of your other friends that do sex work, are their clients mostly rich, too?
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Now, by the way, just to be clear, just because all your clients are rich men does not mean that all rich men do that kind of thing, right?
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20% of men that cheated the higher income bracket.
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And statistically, it's about 20% of women in the lower income bracket.
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But as a man's income goes up, his propensity to cheat grows from, like, 13% to about 20%.
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And then for a woman, her propensity to cheat actually drops from 20 down to about 13 as a man's income goes to about $200,000.
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I've looked at some, like, interesting charts about that.
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But so I just want to be like, yes, that obviously exists, but it's not all rich men.
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But it makes sense that it would be rich men because they just, I think it's a financial thing.
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Like, for a lot of guys to drop $500 could be a lot of money, but if it doesn't mean anything to you, it's like, whatever.
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You're basically a goddess in their eyes, you know.
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So, overnight, I charge 1.5K for an hour, 300 pounds with a 100-pound deposit.
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And that's not even including the extras because they want me to do really dirty things.
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I put their head in the toilet or maybe poo on them.
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No one's ever done it to me, but I have done it to them.
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You don't want to meet him in the street and be like, I think he's nice.
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It feels more wrong when they're good-looking for some reason because it feels like they
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There's so many men that have a fetish of fat women, but they won't admit it to the public
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When I said earlier, just because a guy wants to crap on you and that's like, whatever,
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you crap on them and that's like, you don't consider...
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You know, so a rich guy will marry the high value woman, but he still wants what he wants.
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You might like steak every day, but every now and then you got to get a McDonald's.
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I feel like that's why I get a bit confused because where I get the really high class men
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come to me sometimes, it confuses me because I'm like, you shouldn't be here.
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No, the high value woman is for their children.
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Yeah, and obviously, it's good if you're with a really high class person, it makes
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yourself look better as well because whoever you're with reflects on who you are as a
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I just think it's like what they want long term.
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Like I think men will always crave variety, which sometimes is whales, I guess.
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There's even a fetish and guys will pay you to pop balloons with your bum cheeks.
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And all these people, all these men that do come to me, it does root down to some sort
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It definitely does because even like the whole dominatrix thing where they like being hurt,
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And they're issues that they need to obviously get some help.
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Like, I've had men cry to me before and sit in my lap.
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Do you know why they're not happy in their marriage?
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I mean, I don't really go to and I just kind of just let them cry on me.
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But yeah, no, because after that I need my own therapy when I deal with men like that.
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So it's very mentally draining for me to do this job.
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And I know I shouldn't be in it because it's like I'm taking on everyone else's trauma and I need to deal with mine first.
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Like, again, because all these guys come to you doesn't mean that all guys that are like that do go to that kind of a service.
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The reality is that wealthier people do report a significantly higher statistical mean of being satisfied with their life.
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And they report a significantly higher happiness sort of index to their marriage, which is again why 85% of millionaires are married.
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So what you're reporting is not actually the norm.
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Because there's some guys here listening like, oh, see, that's why I don't want to be successful because I'm just going to be sad.
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I feel like you just get the odd rich men who obviously aren't doing it the right way.
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They're abusing themselves with drugs and things like that.
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Okay, for the guys, have you ever stopped dating a girl because of her past?
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So I found out, I was 18, found out that the girl,
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18, I found out the girl had slept with, like, multiple men.
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And this was through a conversation that I had heard from one of my friends saying,
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Like, I know she's been with, like, this guy and that guy.
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And as soon as I heard that, I said to the girl,
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And now I'm finding out it's more than likely this.
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And she broke down and said, Oh, I didn't want to talk to you about all these girls and blah,
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Why do women say body count doesn't matter if they don't want to tell you what it is?
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A woman wouldn't tell you, I've slept with 8,000 men and I still want to be with you.
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Like, I understand what you're saying about it doesn't matter, it shouldn't matter, et cetera.
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But when push comes to shove, if you get the ideal man in front of you, you're not going to tell him,
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There is no woman on this earth that's actually going to do that.
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You're going to downplay it or you're going to gaslight, like you were saying before,
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and you're going to say, actually, do you know why you're asking me these questions?
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There's actually something we say that's kind of funny.
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I'm like, there is a kind of girl that will lie about her number and lie up, and that's a whale.
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Like, me personally, I think, like, because me, I've broke it off one time with a girl,
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but it was mainly, it wasn't even the body count.
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Like, I knew it was high-ish, but it's like doing something with someone I know, I think.
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It wasn't like a, it was a friend, but he's not like one of the brothers,
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But it's more like you've done stuff for him, and I don't think I can be with you after that.
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Like, I know what he's like as a person, you know what I mean?
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Like, I know him from being a player, you know what I mean?
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I mean, like, for me, my, like, standards, I think that's where, like, standards comes in.
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Like, you've been with that guy, and now I'm with you.
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Like, was it because he was more high status than you or less high status?
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So if you thought he was a quality guy, would it have been different?
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Um, I wouldn't think it would have been different, but just because I know him,
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If I didn't know the person, then probably, like, I would have been like,
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Just because I know him personally, it's like, that guy, really.
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Have you ever stopped speaking to a woman because of some things she did before?
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I only had one girl, which was, like, a secondary, so it wasn't a proper relationship.
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Um, did you have any other girls that happened to you, or the one?
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Yeah, I just learned to recognize, it's like, you just learned to recognize the sign quicker.
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Uh, but, you know, as a man, when I was single, it doesn't mean that I disqualified her from sex.
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It just means, um, that's what it was, and that's all it was.
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What, what signs for guys that are watching this, like, what signs should they look out for?
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Man, that's a, I mean, I'm gonna, yeah, tattoos would be a pretty big sign.
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Um, just any, like, I'll tell you why tattoos are big, so you might say, well, that's not nice,
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I'll tell you why it's a big sign, because if you had a good relationship with your dad,
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he would not let you get tattoos when you were 18.
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That's what, that's what, that's why I don't have tattoos.
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It's like, that's literally, it's like, it just tells me you don't have a good relationship
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with your dad, which it doesn't mean for everybody, but it raises those numbers.
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There's, there's obviously, um, the thing about social intelligence, it's very hard to
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describe it because it's so nuanced, like, and you really have to sort of, um, conflate
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a big number of variables all into one, and that's what comprises, like, the social
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So it's hard to say, like, oh, because of this and this and this and that.
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Um, but there's definitely signs, and when you know, you know.
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But it's like, the dad thing, well, like, what if she didn't have a dad?
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It's not our fault he goes to the shop and don't come back.
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Well, that also tells me, of course, look, I'm not saying it's her fault, it's still her
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I understand it's not her fault, but it is her responsibility.
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And it may be like, well, I was young, whatever.
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I know, you're not responsible for that, but even when I hear you talk, like, you sort
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Like, you kind of blame, like, your situation and, like, this is, like, instead of, it's
00:41:51.840
It was just earlier when you were saying it's because of, like, this or because of that.
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My, my, my, my trolling stuff, it's kind of moulded me into a bit of a mess and I'll
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I think she means, like, if you, if you get, like, a young guy who doesn't have his dad
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there, some of those guys end up, like, alcoholics in prison and some of them end up, like, amazing
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So, like, you can come from the same background and have two different, completely, and that's
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Not getting at you, but that's just what she means.
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I came from a life which was, if I put, like I said, I've put it on camera before and
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what, the reaction from people, I came from a life that was an absolute mess and I chose
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Like, I didn't want to be, like, the man that brought me into this world and I didn't want
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to be and let my mum down, even though my mum, I haven't seen her for 13 years because
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So, I have no remorse for people when they say, oh, well, this happened, so, therefore,
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I've become this, I've got no remorse for that because you don't have to.
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One of the best women I know came from a single parent home and she was abused as a kid and
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she's, like, genuinely one of the best women I know because she, like, went to the church
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and she sought after, like, women she could look up to and she ended up getting married
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and having a family, but it's, like, you can go down, you can be from the same situation
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and have completely different life outcomes and that's what he's saying.
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He's saying, like, it's your responsibility what you do with your life.
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It's your responsibility, but not everyone's strong.
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Some people are actually weak and I'll admit it, I've had times in my life where I've felt
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But why would a guy want to be with a girl that's weak?
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You know, I'm not, but I'm saying that's his point.
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When he's speaking to men, like, a lot of men watch this show, it's, like, these are the
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signs and it's not, even for women, like, honestly, like, I think it's better to date
00:43:41.760
Yeah, because it's easier when you've had a model, like, something you look up to.
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So I've spent a significant amount of my time in my youth thinking about this because I realized
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that I was a really bad judge of character of women.
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Because when I was, like, young, like, coming out of high school, going to college and stuff,
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I remember the girls I was falling for and trying to be in relationships with, they just
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And I thank, I thank the good Lord above every day that I didn't get what I wanted
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Because if I had gotten what I wanted, I would have signed up for a life of massive regret.
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And you see a lot of those guys, they get married young and then they just get wiped
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And sometimes, you know, I'll go on the show and then guys will comment like, that guy
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is going to get what's coming to him, blah, blah, blah.
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Here's, here's, if you're a guy, here's how you can tell what a girl is like, okay?
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Make it your mission to go out in your early 20s and, and just sleep with as many girls
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Because what you're going to learn, first of all, you're going to learn about the nature
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And I'm not saying do that for your whole life.
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Eventually you will want to pursue a higher purpose.
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But in order to pursue that higher purpose valiantly, you have to understand the game you're
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And you don't understand the game you're playing if you've been with one or two girls.
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No, that's exactly the advice I'll give my sons.
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Now I'll give my daughters the opposite advice.
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If you want to know about the seriousness of men, don't put out with them.
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Then you'll absolutely learn what men are really after.
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But if you want to learn what women are after, go out as a man.
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Remember, it's not your job to protect the sexual marketplace as a man.
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It's the woman's job to protect the, she's the guardian to that.
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I know what he's saying, but obviously back when, say, my nan and granddad got married,
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my granddad picked a lady and they were like teenagers, got married.
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Back in those days, marriages worked without men having to go and do that.
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But the difference is women today aren't the women of love.
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Like, I'd hear Myron say, sleep with 50 women before you settle down.
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But what I realized is, like, men can be manipulated by a woman that's more experienced than him.
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Like, you know, imagine you date a virgin, right?
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You would get him to do exactly what you wanted when you want.
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And so it's like, it's not good for us to be in relationships with men that have less experience than us.
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The guy has got to be more experienced, more powerful, more anything.