Older Women Deserved to be PUNISHED for Giving Wrong Advice
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Summary
In this episode, we talk about what we would give up for a man and how we would change our appearance to be a better version of ourselves. We also talk about our fears of plastic surgery and the things we would be willing to give up to be with a man.
Transcript
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Like that, like just scrolling in, you know, wasting my time.
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I wouldn't even care if I want to delete my Instagram, to be honest.
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If you're meant to ask for it, you're going to delete it, isn't it?
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What about girls trips? Would you give up girls trips?
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Actually, tonight when I go home, I'm going to ask him.
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I'm going to ask him if there's one thing he wants me to give up on,
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What if he came back and said, now that you asked?
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You make me kind of like aware of what's going on.
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If, like I did my boob job because after I had Neda,
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I just lost the fat because I lost weight and I did it for myself
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But if I had to do it because of him, no, not really, no.
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I mean, I did this 10 years ago, but now I'm getting older.
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Um, did you say what you would give up for a guy?
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This actually, this conversation made me think when I was younger.
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We, why do we dress a certain way to, for men to look at us?
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And I think, you know, I think there was times when I was too conscious of,
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I want to be a certain way so I can get the attention from men.
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Uh, giving up things like my social media, my career, yes.
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But when it comes to, I don't know, this is, it's just.
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Well, I think it's the age as well because I know I'm thinking when it was about 20, 25 and I had a boyfriend and I fell in love with him and to be honest, I would have done anything, but not now.
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So, so it, it sounds like for the, like the right guy you would give up more.
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It can't be, it can't be only the guy, it should be your age as well.
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It was, I don't know, maybe like I was raised by a feminist mom and he was like, don't get married, don't have kids, don't do what you want.
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I'm, I'm the only one out of her four kids who's given her a grandchild.
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Could it be because when you get older, when you get more experience, experience and you get more confident, you kind of feel like, why do I have to do that?
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Maybe because, maybe because you don't love you that much.
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I don't call it, I don't, I don't think it's love only.
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I don't think I should do something because I should do my boob job because I love him and he wants me to do it.
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If he would really, truly love me, he would love me the way I look.
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I just don't like all that, any of that stuff anyway, but so.
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I think I call it my, I'm more mature in terms of making decision rather than just because someone.
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Maybe I would have, maybe I would have tell him.
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Can you see if he'll take the show for like while I go do it?
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I have to give a police statement, I guess for the lady.
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But guys, we're going to get King Richie's to take over the show.
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Are you sure it's not a crackhead in a police outfit?
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I was right when I told her calm down when she spoke to me in a certain time.
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No, from my side, I just said calm down and she went.
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No, no, I'm just saying that the environment was just real spicy.
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And then she was trying to say that I said that domestic abuse was okay.
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So I'm like, you don't scream like feminism to me.
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She divorced my dad and had two jobs, two, three jobs.
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But she really, I said to her, my only complaint was like,
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you raised me based on ideologies that you had.
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It was more what you believed in about, you know, being a feminist,
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And so, yeah, and I, yeah, I'm definitely not a feminist.
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So I'm curious, do you feel, did your mom ever get remarried?
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No, she was with someone for like 20 years, but not, she didn't get remarried.
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So I was just wondering if she had a better outcome or not.
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I've always wondered about that when, sorry, my goodness.
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No, and that's not direct to you personally, but because I grew up single parent home,
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but I've always wondered where they told that they were out there working two, three jobs.
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As a single mother and then telling her daughter to go out and do the same.
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I mean, I've worked two, three jobs before and it's not fun.
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Guys, I have to go give a police statement, so.
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I have to go give a police statement, so I'm going to let you host for a second.
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We're talking about what would you give up for the right guy.
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Mandana was saying about how her mother raised her based on ideologies and she never really
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got her, but then we was talking, this lady right here, this young lady was talking about
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And she tried to install that programming into you?
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Well, I went along with it and growing up, like I was saying, I was, you know, born 1980
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and then being a teenager in the nineties, Madonna and you know, all of that.
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And then, you know, someone mentioned neo independent woman, you know, the music on a huge.
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And yeah, I thought that was the, the, the right way.
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I mean, literally my twenties, I worked like 78 hours a week.
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Um, and then I did settle down with the guy, but I didn't get married because that wasn't
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Like my mum was like, don't worry about getting married.
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So your, so what your mum was like, yeah, just go out there, get money and live your movie.
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Um, do you feel like she might have steered you in the wrong direction?
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And you know, she's a, you can love your mum, but your mum still can be wrong, you know?
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Would you have marriage after your daughter's husband?
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I was, I was with my daughter's dad for 12 years.
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Do you know, like in the beginning, like when he mentioned marriage, I thought, I don't
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And, um, I never really understood like the, the value in getting married, but I think like
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actually giving your word, giving your word that you are going to stick with this
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I think that will make a bigger difference in actually making it work.
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Do you think, do you, would you agree that a lot of times, a lot of older women give younger
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What do you lot, what do you lot think about that?
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I think it just depends on, like you said, the programming, what programming did that
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So if you, if you've got the corrupt, if you've got the malware, you can only hand down
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If you get, if you come from a two parent household, then you're more likely to still,
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yeah, you should come, you should, a two parent household should come from you because
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But if you come from a single parent household and it's the mum saying, yeah, well, I would
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So I don't, maybe they say they don't want that for her, but what is for their child?
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But the reason is that, that, that men are bad in it.
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Like to me, he did his best, but as a husband and how he treated my mom in certain ways.
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But I also, you know, I think a lot of women don't take responsibility for their part.
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Like the way women can make a man feel like shit is women don't really see that.
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So what do you think about, you know, feminism?
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I think what I, what I noticed in like, when I really look at like the society and the media, especially like, if you notice a lot of media kind of, it kind of installed that programming as well.
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Because like, for instance, when you watch like a lot, even cartoons, you might watch the Simpsons or family guy.
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And the mom has to be the one controlled, the one that's level headed where the, where the dad is just like an idiot.
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And you know, it's subtle, but it is actually quite significant.
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And it's just like, yeah, I think that society, um, the media, it really pushes for like, you know, men are incapable.
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Women have to take the, the, the reins of everything can like girl power kind of thing.
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Women, women are not to say women shouldn't feel like, you know, they can make decisions, but at the end of the day, most women will want a man that is a leader, a man that is competent, a man that is confident, the man that, you know, she can rely on and look to, you know, in times of need where they don't want to, they don't want to couple up with Homer Simpson.
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They don't want to couple up with Peter Griffin.
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I think it's every man's duty personally to be the best version of himself.
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I think that every man should, uh, strive to get financial power, physical power, you know, be, you know, in best physical shape he can.
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And as women, we have to empower those men because I, I just talk to women a lot and I'm like, you talk so much shit about men.
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And, and, um, the other thing is, um, sorry, I lost my, I saw power coming in, I lost my, um, got starstruck.
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How we, how we, how, what we do about it is shut down people like her.
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Let's get, let's get, let's get a little round of applause.
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And you're the one, she was telling you why you're not smiling.
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Like, um, Gary was saying, so like, what do we do about that?
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And I'm like, you're shutting down people like that.
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Like, like exact, like, this is what has got to stop.
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Like, women talking shit about men is going on and on and on.
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And yeah, sometimes I do get into arguments with my girlfriends.
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Because you said, you said your mom was a feminist.
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And I shut, I, I, yeah, I shut her down immediately.
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When was your like red pill moment that switched?
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Cause I, no, cause I, I'd imagine at some point, like, I mean,
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if she was talking like this when you were a kid,
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you can't believe what your parents say for a while.
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Um, when I was having arguments with my ex-partner,
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it was like I could just, afterwards, I was like,
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It's like I can hear my mom's voice in my head.
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But like I said, it got to a point where it kind of got a bit too late
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Um, but yeah, that it was, it was not that long ago.
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Um, and one of the questions I was going to ask you,
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like what, what would you do now to like compete for a guy?
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Yeah. I mean, it's always, love is competition.
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Would you, would you agree that most women go for the same types of guys?
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And in, in terms of there's a list of things that women want,
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and there's only a small percentage of men that fit that,
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that have good enough jobs, that are good enough looking,
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There's not enough men that we want to go around.
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There's enough men to go around, but not that, that women.
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I would, I would, um, I am starting to learn to listen to the man,
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and shut my mouth a bit more, finding it difficult.
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So, but that's, yeah, that's what I would really take on,
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because I did take on being masculine and, and.
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I can like tell when women play sports, like from a young age.
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But I'm like, I think I've heard it imbalances our hormones.
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all the sports you're doing and all this is not helping.
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And he said, and I was doing like kickboxing at some point.
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He was like, well, that's not going to help you be feminine.
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And yes, I will get in touch with you about that.
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Because my coordination when it comes to dancing is crap.
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But if you play football, you already must have some fancy footwork.
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I have that, but when it comes to dancing, I'm the same way.
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So, yeah, I would compete in, yeah, keeping myself fit.
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I'm in my forties now, so I can't afford to let myself go.
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Yeah, keep myself fit and really like being more submissive and feminine.
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Do you think you could be in the top 1% of listeners to keep the man that you're saying that you want?
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Do you, have you ever like sought out to learn certain skills for a guy?
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But I can't get into like the personal stuff, but there, no, there are certain differences
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Have you ever sought out to learn a certain skill to get women?
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I don't need to, you know, really learn anything.
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So I can say, okay, let's go to the cinema or something.
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I need to, I was working out a lot more because it's like, all right, cool up.
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So like, let me try and work on, there's loads of things I've tried to work on to be.
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But there's loads of things that I tried to work on to try and be more appealing because
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I, I didn't, I feel like for me personally, it was a lot more to do with my self image,
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where I didn't view myself as the most attractive.
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So maybe that came across to the women that I was talking to at the time.
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So like I can engage in conversation more and be more successful in just having general
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And I thought if I did these things, I would be more successful when it really just should
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Did you actively like study how to talk to women, how to approach women?
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But I thought if, well, if I have the, cause I was already fine with like telling jokes and
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But it was just like, I felt like if I had the look, if I had the, if I had a blackberry,
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if I had like the right clothes, if I made sure I always had a haircut.
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I think that I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
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It's all about self improvement at the end of the day.
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I didn't know I had, you know, walk around confident, happy within myself.
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I'm not the, I don't look the ideal way I want to look, but I'm working towards it.
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And whilst I'm working towards it, I just believe I'm that guy, man.
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You know, I think that's what the, the main thing is just confidence.
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For men in, in, in general, from your confidence, it, it, it doesn't matter.
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Cause even today we all came in, didn't know each other, was all sat down, just talking.
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I think before we came in, as soon as that camera went on, boy.
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Oh, even before that, she was, um, she never really listened to anyone.
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She was just very much me, me, me, just talked about herself.
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And that's why she's in a situation she's in now.
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I was going, I was actually going to ask if I needed to take a statement.
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What about if people don't want to stay, should want to talk, don't want to say nothing?
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I don't, I don't, I don't really deal with the police that much.
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No, I mean, they'll come, but I actually think they come fast.
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Everyone always says here that they don't come fast.
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I think I've kicked what, either two or three people off.
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There was an energy and a vibe and I was like, this show gonna be interesting.
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I didn't know it was gonna get to this level, but.
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I have a video for us to react to, but I don't know.
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That's like, I'm not saying I can, I can bake everything, but I do make good cookies.
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We could do a wife school episode where I teach something.
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You look, you look younger than that, by the way.
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Has, is, what is the difference between dating in your forties than in your third?
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You don't have to have your faces on the camera.
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I was trying to figure out what to do right now.
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And it's very nice of you guys to send Super Chats.
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IG was engineered to feed women's addiction to attention and made them worth $1 trillion.
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Do you agree that if a woman chooses to become anorexic, it's okay because she chooses a lifestyle?
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It's when women forget about the compromise because they're used to availability and options
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So then what are they going to do us all one by one?
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So they don't have to take all of our statements.
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I don't, I don't know how to deal with the police here.
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So then they don't have to take all of our statements.
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I don't, I don't know how to deal with the police here.
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Well, I'm actually going to, um, so dating between your forties and your twenties, any different?
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any different like I said I don't really date you don't really do I don't I mean
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split up with my ex what two years ago focus on my daughter and I get approached
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by a lot of younger younger guys it's not it's not my cup of tea I don't like
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online day I've never done online dating have you found it's harder to date men
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your own age when you're older I haven't really tried maybe I should try have you
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actually put yourself out in the market or not in the market like do you want to
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in the future yeah I would love to I would love to be in a relationship so
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it's what's stopping you I need to work on myself like I said I I don't know if I
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could put a man through what I already put a man through because in my head it's
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like how would you get better at listening wouldn't you have to be with
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a man to practice listening yes which is okay but I'm just I'm just wondering how
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you would get there yes Paul this is getting very personal yes I would have
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to put myself in that situation but who knows maybe I know a guy you know look
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it what do they they got my statement I mean I can give okay all right I'm gonna go
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give a statement I guess chat amongst yourselves so yeah so as Paul was saying
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now yeah wouldn't you have to practice maybe if you had like a male friend that
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could be a bestie and you just practice listening to his trials and tribulations
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and then you'll know okay there is a guy that I like okay
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yeah it's coming out and I keep messing up with him so how so like what do you what do
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you mean by messing up like I said like I have my ways like does he say like oh how
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are you doing and you're like this is why no no no I'm definitely not like that I
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just um yeah like my reactions sometimes and he just doesn't have it which is what I
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really like about him that it doesn't like pop with my shit be strong are you bossy and tough do
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you are you trying to say you're bossy and you're trying not to no it's not even that I'm do you are
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you one of those women where because of the way that you are you want someone to be able to be like
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no mandana don't do that all right don't talk to me like that I have a certain tone and the way I
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can just react without thinking mm-hmm you need to put you need to put you in your place that's what
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you like yeah that's what you want mm-hmm yeah that's okay that's okay that's absolutely okay and
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that's not a bad thing and I do really like him and I think I've just messed up one too many times so
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he's but do you still talk to him yeah he's fed up if you're still me in my place if you still talk
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to him I'm sure God give me some advice or should no I was thinking you also you you think that you've
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messed up one too many times but you still talk to him yeah if I to my mind if he was really wasn't
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interested he wouldn't talk to anymore okay so I agree with you yeah I'm sure if he's still talking to
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you even do you think you messed up a lot of times he's very interested maybe he wants to go to prep
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tomorrow and get a cool coffee and coffee and croissant but um you're gonna make an excuse
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now I want to talk about it no talk about it but no but he okay so yes he's somebody that I could
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practice with being more feminine or whatever but he's not somebody who wants to be in a relationship
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who wants to commit so it wouldn't be the right person for me okay but maybe things could change well
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we could live in hope yeah you could live in life but it's but it's um do you live in hope or do you
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just take someone's word for it when they say what they want or what they don't want so they got it
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out of me what happened oh keep me in the know also the police also the police I just asked the
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questions the police left that's great yeah yeah bye bye pigs um oh sorry I think yeah shout out to the
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London to police and police department for doing a great job yeah um what is he talking about your
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ex no it's so different there's a different guy it's someone that she likes because she was saying
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about practicing to listen to be the type of woman that a top 20 or whatever percentage of men would go
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for and I was saying also like you're saying about having to be with a man in order to practice those
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things she said that she has a friend that she likes and that she does do those things with but
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she feels like she's messed up too many times but I said do you still speak to him she said yes so I
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was saying in response to that if you still speak to him that it's highly unlikely to my mind that you
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have messed up too many times because you still speak to him so you never know but then she then
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rebutted that by saying that he has said that she he doesn't want to be in a relationship oh so but
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then I'll say that you never know because yeah so he said so he basically thinks women are a headache
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he doesn't want the headache and he's kind of my age mm-hmm one year younger than me and um so yeah
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and basically what I've done is show him that yes we are a headache have have you have you ever been in a
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situation where a guy didn't want to date you and then wanted to date you me personally that's never
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happened yeah if it was a no it did I never turned into a yes well this is the thing we started off
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casual so I thought after my ex yes I'm single like after 12 years you know like just listening to my
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friends yeah have fun whatever so that's how he started mm-hmm but um the new one I mean as women
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we always yeah yeah yeah and you know yeah yeah totally and then I caught feelings but he's really
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like I mean you're supposed to you're a woman like yeah but he's also like really nice and treated and
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treated me nice and whatever and then I showed my messed up side and he put me in my place and
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I think um maybe that's why you're interested because he put you in the right place 100% because
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he is yeah he takes no shit is that toxic is that that you showed your messed up side he's put you in
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your place not in a not in a like aggressive toxic on her side that's the thing he's really calm he's
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really calm he's really calm he's really calm he doesn't like argue with me but it's still an alpha
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he's calm but it's still an alpha sorry he's definitely alpha yeah so wait question um when
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is the when's the last time you saw him last night I did see him today at the gym okay okay so you're
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still seeing him it's okay oh my god what if he watches this it's okay you're not you're not being
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disrespectful no I know you're not do you think you're the only girl like come on I know but I I'm
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like I wasn't prepared to talk about it publicly but hey so yeah so question um when did he how long
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ago did he tell you that he wasn't looking for anything from the beginning we were both kind of
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like yeah clear about I'm not looking for a relationship and did you tell him your feelings changed
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uh kind of yes not to the extent that I am feeling feelings but yeah pretty much how long have you
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been um do you love him oh my god wait no wait but how long have you been how long has this
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situation been taking place I don't know I'm not one of those get one minute I'd have to I know you
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know six months but tell him tell him tell him you love him well then you know
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you do love him then was it like close okay okay all right confessions she's getting excited
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I think it's sweet I think it's cute too much it is nice because this reaction to my mind this reaction
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is the reaction that should come from genuine feeling yeah yes no ladies yeah I mean I do listen
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I do really like him and I have uh yeah I do have feelings for him and but but yeah it's the rejection
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thing it's like he's already told me that yeah try again keep pushing should I keep pushing I'm a big
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believer in like going after what you want yeah and I feel like if you want it go after it and if
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that's why I coach people and now I'm in that situation I'm like wow and so if you're not what he
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wants what he wants figure out why see if you can fix it and if it's not something that can be fixed if
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you won't ever change then you move on okay but yeah yeah all right I don't know I'm I'm just a
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shooter I'm just a shooter I'm like a shooter shoot you know mm-hmm so you got to man yeah I I
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yeah I am usually and I I've not been in this situation I feel like in you know I've been in
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three or four serious relationships um and I feel like I was was just chosen I've not like
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chosen the guy I want to be with and then going through this oh do you feel like it would have
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been better if you had been the chooser instead of the choosy yeah like yeah like sometimes I think
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I just kind of gave it not give it I definitely loved my ex like attracted to him loved him all of
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that but it was yeah it was more like him making the effort and I was all okay so as many of you know
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I was just banned on tick tock and we are demonetized on a daily basis on this platform if you want to
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