JustPearlyThings - Pearl and Melanie King DEBATE On Accountability

00:00:00.000 and somebody commits a crime do we blame the criminal or do we blame society it depends on

00:00:07.120 the gender 50 50 i think it's both right i think good men can become bad where usually when you

00:00:13.520 see men that have turned bad i think they always started out as good men but being around certain

00:00:19.040 people in society can change them and twist them for so you guys think it's 50 50. i wouldn't say

00:00:24.480 50 50. yes i don't believe it's 50 50. if i go down the street and i steal something is it my fault or

00:00:31.920 society no it's your fault it's your fault it's nothing to do with society like if we want to

00:00:36.160 blame the system then that's the that's the that's the crux of no accountability right like like if you

00:00:42.560 want to just blame well my childhood my upbringing i didn't have this i didn't have that the same

00:00:47.440 person grew up in the same circumstance as you and they made other choices so we have to like that's

00:00:52.640 not accountability if it's if it's always somebody else you know who who caused it because you were

00:00:59.520 raised a certain way i can show you the example of somebody raised in a worse circumstances who made

00:01:03.840 better choices than you so is it really society if if we can if i can point to one person who made a

00:01:10.160 better choice sorry if i make if i could point to one person who made a better choice then like like

00:01:16.640 you haven't your excuse is gone but there's a moral in there's a moral story in that so for instance if

00:01:21.280 you look at people like robin hood right robin hood was born into a poor society right and what

00:01:28.160 he chose to do was to rob from the rich and give to the poor right so was he was he wrong so i have

00:01:34.960 a question so if a guy cheats can he blame society no no absolutely not no he has no no discipline with

00:01:42.160 his tool why can't why can't why can't you just blame hookup culture by that logic no just if you

00:01:48.320 want to hook up yeah be single just leave just leave i don't understand that yeah but why cheat just

00:01:54.000 leave but i think it also depends on your on your end goal so like i said with robin hood with the

00:01:59.280 robin hood analogy he robbed from the rich gave to the poor to try and change society so so women were 1.00

00:02:05.120 they they they so this woman is getting a lot of his tool and these poor women out here aren't 1.00

00:02:10.480 getting enough d so he's giving charity d to the streets i'm talking about because that's essentially

00:02:16.480 what your example is no i'm just talking about morally depends on that's why i said it depends

00:02:21.040 i never said it's 50 50 i said it could also be the society could also be the individual i'm just

00:02:25.440 saying it depends i would say it would depend on what you want from society so people like if you're

00:02:31.360 trying to change society for instance look at andrew tate he's trying to change society

00:02:35.920 but he's deemed as wrong that's why he's been jailed just people don't like to right because

00:02:40.080 people don't like to hear the truth but he's done things wrong as well if we're honest but he's done

00:02:44.720 things right i will say there are moves he's made that people are on on his side will say listen you

00:02:51.120 you self-snitched like you you should have kept it quiet there's moves that he needs to 0.97

00:02:55.120 make we're not talking about that we're talking about whether he's is that society's fault if you

00:02:58.800 self-snitch is he wrong and for what he's trying to do is he if you self-snitch you have

00:03:04.720 to learn how to move we're in the world we're in and i'm not saying he's right or wrong what i'm

00:03:08.960 saying is that's what we're talking about but i'm saying is but he has to also does andrew tate have

00:03:13.440 to take accountability if he's self-snitched well but if you if you you can sing about something in

00:03:17.760 a song or talk about something on social media without it technically being self-snitching they

00:03:21.760 have to bring evidence that you did those exactly they have no evidence against him so i agree with you

00:03:26.400 they have no evidence so they need to let that go their feelings are hurt so that's why i said society

00:03:30.480 because society could deem somebody wrong because they're the ones in the room so if i have power

00:03:35.360 my original question was about the about the stealer so if i go down and steal is it my fault or society

00:03:40.240 it's your fault your fault but let's just think if you're if you're raised in poverty you have no money

00:03:44.640 you're in a circumstance where you have no food and you're raising us and you're living let's say you're

00:03:49.280 a kid and you have no money you have no food you're dependent on parents who are on drugs and and your

00:03:54.800 your baby sister needs to eat your mother's on crack like there are nuances in this where you have 1.00

00:04:01.680 to blame a portion of society that this child has failed because we've let them slip through the

00:04:06.880 system i disagree but how would that child eat how do they eat tell me the solutions if their parents

00:04:13.040 are on crack their baby sister their little brothers and sisters are hungry they can't get a job

00:04:18.080 they're 13 i personally know of people like this kids in homeless shelters this is their situation

00:04:23.760 maggie understood but wrong is still wrong there may be reasons why this kid is stealing but we

00:04:30.000 still have to be able to say wrong is wrong and as a parent i mean you hear it even in parenting advice

00:04:35.360 you know they tell you oh the child is not bad they just made bad decisions where i grew up in an era

00:04:41.200 where if you were a fool they called you a fool yeah and i think we need to bring some of that back

00:04:46.720 because it breeds this thing well it's not my fault sometimes it just has to sit on you and you just have

00:04:52.240 to realize i did that and it was wrong so is that a moral question then like when you say wrong is

00:04:56.560 wrong because who decides what is wrong and what is right but then the question is well if you are

00:05:01.280 let's say you're a teenager or young your mother's on crack there's a recent story in the u.s where a

00:05:05.360 mother left her two children her 14 year old ran away her 12 year old and she has a three-year-old all

00:05:11.120 three different baby daddies she left him alone in texas and houston for two months through thanksgiving

00:05:16.160 she told them if you tell anybody that i'm leaving that they're going to take your little three-year-old

00:05:21.200 brother away and you'll never see him again and threatened her so she was scared to tell anybody

00:05:27.440 what was going on her mother was missing for two months or she was running the streets in another 1.00

00:05:31.920 state she was left in the care she never enrolled these children into school uh the oldest one so she 0.99

00:05:38.640 used to have to lie to her father who was working in another state because of course she got custody of 0.96

00:05:43.600 all the kids okay so then she because she was threatened because the mother said i'll never

00:05:48.480 love you or see you you'll never see your siblings again this child had to lie to her father and say 0.99

00:05:53.600 can you please get groceries mom is working he would call the mother say yeah i'm working can you please

00:05:58.000 send groceries or food i'm struggling but she couldn't tell the truth because she was scared if that

00:06:03.040 instance if she didn't have food didn't have the father who would who would send the groceries or food

00:06:07.040 to the house and she had to go steal are we going to say little 12 year old you are now accountable 0.77

00:06:13.280 because your mother's for the streets and abandoned you and your in your little sibling and now you

00:06:17.840 need consequences i mean i think there's you can have empathy for a situation but the whole idea

00:06:22.960 is wrong is wrong exactly but you're 12 but your mom leaves you with a three-year-old and you could say

00:06:27.920 this is why i did that wrong thing and like this is my reason for it but wrong is still wrong it doesn't

00:06:34.320 become right just because something happened exactly it doesn't matter well that's tough for me that one

00:06:39.600 that's a tough i think it's odd so suppose for instance if i got up and slapped you in your

00:06:44.160 face right now am i wrong yeah yeah if you slap me back are you wrong yes no no no but remember you

00:06:51.280 made the decision to slap me no because once in self-defense all right if he just slaps you once and

00:06:59.760 then he just stands there and there's no defense needed he just slapped you it's still self-defense though right

00:07:04.240 he's gonna slap me again what if he did it once he might do it again what if he slaps you and then

00:07:09.600 go sits back down and you know it's still a soap right it's still a soap he could stand up and do it

00:07:15.360 again but but what if he doesn't what if like he's held back are you are you should you be able to

00:07:20.560 how would he be how do we get here from our women held accountable society i'm like we've gone on the path

00:07:26.800 i think you've gone in a path i think i think you you take accountability these examples are a little

00:07:33.440 extreme let's drill it in your mind's like spaghetti all right yes everyone it's my why is it that when

00:07:39.280 a man cheat he cheats he's a cheater but when a woman cheats she's not satisfied in the relationship

00:07:46.640 because can we women cheat emotionally and men cheat because there's a hole in the wall right that's why 1.00

00:07:54.240 men cheat sounds like an excuse to me no no i'm just saying we already listen it's it's a corn category

00:07:59.600 right it's called glory holes you see men putting their things in they don't care who's on the other

00:08:04.080 side they're just trying to get their rocks off right men can do that men don't care right women 1.00

00:08:10.560 actually for a woman to cheat on a man she has to be somewhat emotionally involved no the question's 1.00

00:08:15.520 backwards men can do it without having any emotional connection whatsoever yeah no but the question was

00:08:23.120 different though yeah that's not what i asked no but you said what no i said why why does society

00:08:29.520 label the man a cheater but a woman's not satisfied in the relationship so why is there an excuse 0.99

00:08:34.720 for for the woman but there's not an excuse for the man because it's emotional no it's an accountability

00:08:40.400 issue agree it's accountability issue for sure listen at the end of the day um one of the things

00:08:44.640 that we open up with is that there's um systems put in place for whatever reason to continue to pander to

00:08:50.960 the modern woman and i think it's all just kind of just based off of money i think that if you want

00:08:55.440 to sell ad placements to the the component of the population that makes 80 of the household purchasing

00:09:02.880 decisions you're going to do so in a way to try to make them feel good and nice inside and avoid all

00:09:08.320 accountability at the end of the day accountability doesn't feel good having to fix problems doesn't

00:09:13.600 feel good it's time intensive and it brings you a dose of reality of the things that you have to do to

00:09:18.320 over encumber that right women don't want to do all that they just want to just want to feel good 1.00

00:09:22.880 about themselves and let it be the man's issue or the man's problem like again they're not focused on

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JustPearlyThings - March 18, 2023

Pearl and Melanie King DEBATE On Accountability

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