JustPearlyThings - August 02, 2023


Pearl Calls Out Modern Women On This

Topics
neurodivergence and criminal records
Hosted by
Hannah Pearl Davis
Mentioned
Pearl
He Was Pro Abortion Until He Uncovered This Fact The Cause of Disunity Between Men and Women

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9 minutes

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1,794

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In this episode, the brother and sister duo of the sit down and discuss the controversial topic of whether or not someone should be allowed to date someone with a criminal record. They discuss the pros and cons of allowing a partner to have a criminal past and how to deal with it.

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00:00:00.000 She's going to obviously have to get involved with the children. 1.00
00:00:03.500 I feel like people, like you said, people change, people grow, people reform, people, you know, people change their lives.
00:00:11.520 You know, we're not the same people we were last week, yesterday, probably a minute ago.
00:00:16.000 So we've got to look forward to what's in the future.
00:00:19.420 One time I was dating this guy my dad was not a fan of.
00:00:23.700 And I said to my dad, I said, Dad, you know, do people change?
00:00:27.980 He knew I was talking about him.
00:00:29.400 Right. And my dad looks at me and he goes, yeah, they do change.
00:00:33.060 They get worse over time.
00:00:34.380 So whatever trait you see now, just expect it to get worse in 10 years.
00:00:38.700 That's not true.
00:00:39.300 If you commit a crime when you're a teenager, that doesn't mean you'll commit worse.
00:00:42.800 You know, we can talk about these exceptions, right?
00:00:45.400 You know, but like over time, I think people kind of have a core of who they are.
00:00:52.200 Are you saying like once a cheater, always a cheater kind of thing or once a whatever, always that?
00:00:56.960 I think that if you date someone that's cheated in the past, he's more likely to cheat than someone who has not cheated in the past.
00:01:03.780 So I do think that, yeah, you should look at people's past.
00:01:08.760 But I feel like it doesn't necessarily define somebody 100 percent, though, because a lot of these traumas, a lot of these situations that people have gone through, they've learned to grow from that to become the people they are today.
00:01:22.060 So I kind of disagree.
00:01:23.780 Crime completely depends on your circumstances and your class and what you're born into.
00:01:27.260 Like you could be a good person, but you've been born in a dissonance.
00:01:31.680 I think that people will say, you know, Pearl, you didn't grow up with in that situation.
00:01:37.900 So maybe you shouldn't have an opinion.
00:01:39.260 But I do have an opinion.
00:01:40.340 So I'm going to say it.
00:01:41.220 I think that, you know, my dad grew up pretty poor and he wouldn't do that because he's not the type of guy.
00:01:47.400 I just think you're either that type of person that will do that or you aren't.
00:01:51.180 There's so many factors that contribute.
00:01:52.960 Like your dad might have had a protective factor.
00:01:55.200 I don't know what it might be, but he might have that other people didn't have.
00:01:58.920 Like there's so many dependencies.
00:02:00.920 He may not have seen his mom getting beaten.
00:02:02.780 He may not have suffered domestic abuse.
00:02:04.340 He may have.
00:02:04.900 He might not have had an older mentor.
00:02:06.900 We've come up with a lot of extreme situations today.
00:02:10.540 We've come up with a lot of like every extreme we've come up with.
00:02:14.920 I mean, it depends on what warp of life, you know, you've been around.
00:02:18.340 It's not extreme.
00:02:21.640 It's the norm.
00:02:22.280 I grew up in Trinidad.
00:02:24.680 Trinidad is not the best place when it comes to crime.
00:02:28.700 I grew up like literally around violence and I was around it.
00:02:33.320 Now, I could have made a choice to be in it or stay out of it.
00:02:40.340 And not because I was in it means I was going to become that person.
00:02:43.960 So I just believe that at the end of the day, it's like it all boils down the choice and it's nothing deep.
00:02:50.600 You choose to be in it, you choose to be out of it.
00:02:52.700 Exactly.
00:02:53.940 That's also discrimination in a sense as well.
00:02:56.440 So he's agreeing with me.
00:02:57.800 Thank you.
00:02:58.400 You've made choices.
00:02:59.560 There's also factors like ADHD, which is a risk factor.
00:03:02.720 Like if that means you're more of a risk taker, that means it's hard for you to focus.
00:03:06.380 That means it's hard for you to see the future and be disciplined for it.
00:03:08.300 That's much deeper than what it is.
00:03:09.480 What I'm hearing is excuses.
00:03:11.100 It's not excuses.
00:03:12.040 I mean, what else would it be?
00:03:14.760 I know it is.
00:03:15.520 Okay, imagine I go to court.
00:03:16.900 Imagine I go to court.
00:03:18.100 Okay, Your Honor, I'm sorry I committed this crime.
00:03:20.660 I have ADHD.
00:03:22.060 When you're in Europe divergent, your brain naturally works. 0.57
00:03:25.360 Everybody and themselves want to be better, right?
00:03:28.140 No matter what situation.
00:03:29.180 You want the best outcome of a situation.
00:03:32.640 The only reason you're staying in it is because one, delusional, two, or whatever it is.
00:03:39.980 But because you want to be better, now you have that choice.
00:03:43.140 Either you stay or you don't.
00:03:45.500 That's not even discrimination.
00:03:46.840 That's just, it's up to what you personally want.
00:03:49.920 But imagine you're a child when you do want to court.
00:03:53.020 Exactly.
00:03:53.700 You can't make decisions properly.
00:03:54.840 I think you guys were asking if I would want my sister to date someone with a criminal record. 0.89
00:03:59.820 I think that's how we got into this.
00:04:01.440 I think, no.
00:04:02.140 And I'm going to stand on that.
00:04:03.880 I would say don't date the guy with the criminal record.
00:04:07.140 Don't date the guy with kids.
00:04:08.160 It was about the two kids, weren't it?
00:04:09.120 Yeah, it was the kids.
00:04:09.740 Well, it started with the kids.
00:04:10.460 And then he said that's like judging someone on their criminal record.
00:04:13.100 And I said I would, in fact, judge someone on their criminal record.
00:04:15.880 I would say I would judge people based on their choices that they make.
00:04:20.660 I think that's a fair statement.
00:04:22.840 But some people are born into situations where they're more, they're at an advantage to make better choices.
00:04:29.720 Yeah, but you said ADHD before and trauma.
00:04:32.940 Like, you have it, yes.
00:04:34.760 But that does not mean that you should stay in it.
00:04:38.080 When you're neurodivergent, your brain literally sends you different signals to make different decisions.
00:04:44.320 It's a big factor.
00:04:46.400 A big factor.
00:04:47.460 It doesn't change your goals and dreams of what you want to become.
00:04:49.560 Yeah, but a lot of people get into crime really young.
00:04:53.060 Yeah, it changes the way that you react to certain situations, how you deal with, how you process information.
00:05:00.240 It's a big factor.
00:05:01.620 I really think that's just an excuse.
00:05:03.200 It's not an excuse.
00:05:04.080 It's not an excuse.
00:05:05.420 It's a real thing.
00:05:05.860 I mean, I have ADHD.
00:05:07.640 Yeah, so do I.
00:05:08.480 You know, I committed no crimes.
00:05:13.480 No crimes.
00:05:14.600 No crimes.
00:05:15.200 But we're not, for example, we are not black males born in, well, I didn't have loads of money, but not proper poverty, probably.
00:05:23.620 And not with the same pressure and not with the same.
00:05:27.000 For example, in London, people born in poverty live next to people who have so much money.
00:05:31.680 Social media shows people so much money.
00:05:33.680 Have you ever seen real poverty?
00:05:36.320 Yeah, I have.
00:05:36.960 I do.
00:05:37.300 I've done a lot of volunteering in developing countries.
00:05:39.980 100%.
00:05:40.760 Yeah, so I just think like poverty here isn't really real poverty.
00:05:45.540 Nope.
00:05:45.940 I went to India one time.
00:05:47.540 That's real poverty.
00:05:49.820 Yep.
00:05:50.240 I have never seen more homeless people.
00:05:52.380 Hungry.
00:05:53.180 Yeah.
00:05:53.540 And it was like during this like super hot summer.
00:05:56.460 Like people were dying on the street.
00:05:57.500 It was really sad.
00:05:58.480 It's not nice.
00:05:59.400 It's not just about poverty though.
00:06:00.640 It's about the insecurities and what they've been through.
00:06:03.480 And probably also some of them, obviously we're not saying everyone born into crime is black,
00:06:10.860 but some of them are, and they experience racism as well.
00:06:13.320 They have a lot to prove.
00:06:14.500 Like it's very hard as a teenage boy to feel that you're in poverty.
00:06:20.020 You don't have.
00:06:21.660 Lack of opportunity.
00:06:22.820 Yeah.
00:06:22.980 You don't feel secure and you're trying to prove yourself.
00:06:25.760 And it's very hard as a teenager not to try and be cool.
00:06:28.020 And unfortunately in London now, to be cool and to be worthy and to feel good, you're
00:06:35.240 a bad boy.
00:06:36.040 And girls also, women actually are a problem in this because teenage girls go for that. 1.00
00:06:41.460 And that actually encourages them so much more.
00:06:44.280 So what does it take from a successful man who was in poverty to become successful?
00:06:52.580 I think there must, there's probably different factors.
00:06:55.400 They went through the trauma.
00:06:56.340 They went through this.
00:06:57.020 They went through that.
00:06:57.560 Everybody's different.
00:06:59.320 Some people do have a stronger mindset than others.
00:07:02.880 And that's okay.
00:07:03.660 But it's also possible for anybody.
00:07:05.520 That's just my opinion.
00:07:06.900 There are many possibilities for everybody.
00:07:10.000 Like you can do whatever you put your mind to, but there are some situations where life
00:07:15.560 in general is heavy and they don't have the brain capacity to even think about next week.
00:07:22.160 Why? 1.00
00:07:22.380 You think they're too dumb? 1.00
00:07:24.480 No, I'm talking about like. 1.00
00:07:25.920 You said brain capacity.
00:07:27.180 Yeah.
00:07:27.560 In regards to dealing with everyday life, work stress, family stress, struggle stress,
00:07:36.400 money stress.
00:07:37.200 There's a lot of people who came out of that though.
00:07:39.480 That's what I'm saying.
00:07:40.040 But you don't know what those people have had different.
00:07:42.920 Like what if you're more rebellious because you don't have attachments to your parents where
00:07:47.220 someone else has a better attachment.
00:07:48.300 I know people in the same exact family where one grew up to be a multi-millionaire and one
00:07:52.520 grew up to be an alcoholic.
00:07:53.720 It's choices.
00:07:54.840 Like I'm just not with this, this excuse, that excuse, that excuse.
00:07:58.060 I know people in countries that have real poverty, that have real, like no options.
00:08:03.280 And so it's like, you know how spoiled we sound in the West to say, oh my ADHD, oh this, oh that.
00:08:08.280 Yeah, but you really know what you know as well, right?
00:08:10.560 Yeah, exactly.
00:08:11.240 India, wherever, you know, whichever country you were giving that example, that is what
00:08:16.180 they know.
00:08:17.040 That's true.
00:08:17.120 I grew up with like nannies from around the world. 1.00
00:08:23.620 So like we had a different nanny from like a different country every year.
00:08:26.200 So I've spoken to people from literally, like I grew up with them all over the world.
00:08:29.700 And I'm telling you, like the, we sound so spoiled.
00:08:33.300 I agree with you to expect, because I've also seen, I've also seen poverty like that.
00:08:38.600 But unless we take all of our children and teenagers to developing countries and show them, 0.88
00:08:43.280 they, like you said, they only know, they're only in that bubble.
00:08:45.820 And also, if you're fortunate to have a nanny, there's certain lifestyles that you can't
00:08:51.300 even comprehend, because there are certain people that can't even afford to eat.
00:08:56.360 So, yeah.
00:08:56.940 I can comprehend, this is the whole, oh you're rich, you know, therefore choices, it still
00:09:02.600 goes back to, you can still be born into anything and your choices, it still matters.
00:09:07.440 It's who you are.
00:09:08.200 Absolutely.
00:09:09.060 So I don't really know like what we're arguing here.
00:09:11.660 Like you should be given a pass, because you grew up in a bad situation.