JustPearlyThings - November 08, 2023


Pearl CLAPS BACK At Her Twitter HATERS


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11 minutes

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In this episode, we discuss the sexualization of women and the impact it has on our society. Is it a good thing or a bad thing that women cover up? Is it bad that men sexualize women? And why do we need to protect our daughters from sexualization?

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00:00:00.000 I don't understand.
00:00:01.280 Why do you say the men are responsible for the sexualization?
00:00:05.540 I wouldn't say they're completely wholly responsible,
00:00:07.840 but I do think some sick men that we all are influenced by or have heard of,
00:00:12.700 that's the reason why a young girl will be told,
00:00:15.060 okay, well, you've got a cover-up or anything like that.
00:00:17.180 That young girl is very innocent.
00:00:18.820 She doesn't know anything in terms of that.
00:00:21.900 But she learns that because really the biggest influence tends to be that sick man that does whatever.
00:00:27.740 But even without the sick man, why is it bad to teach your daughter to cover up?
00:00:31.480 Isn't that a skill that would be good throughout her life?
00:00:33.960 It's not bad at all.
00:00:34.640 So then why do we paint that as a bad thing, like it's men sexualizing women?
00:00:40.020 We wouldn't have to cover ourselves up if it wasn't for men.
00:00:42.520 We know where it comes from.
00:00:43.080 What?
00:00:43.480 We wouldn't have to, like, if men weren't here, we wouldn't.
00:00:46.360 No, I disagree.
00:00:47.600 I think that you have nudity laws for a reason.
00:00:50.480 It's not just men.
00:00:51.800 I don't want to see.
00:00:55.580 I'm actually quite tired on Twitter.
00:00:57.740 I have women tweeting their naked pictures at me. 1.00
00:01:00.400 I don't want to see it either.
00:01:04.060 And I'm a woman.
00:01:05.240 But we're at risk with men.
00:01:06.520 Like, I say, put it all away.
00:01:08.360 I don't want to see it.
00:01:09.060 I'd much rather you say that, though, rather than the predatory man.
00:01:13.480 But why is the man predatory?
00:01:16.640 That's generalized.
00:01:17.440 I wouldn't say every man.
00:01:18.620 Right, but I'm saying, like, why do we put it on the man?
00:01:22.060 Because it's a relevant thing.
00:01:23.360 I think if there is 20 men that aren't like that, and there's one that is, we're going
00:01:28.840 to remember that one, and we're going to protect the however long.
00:01:30.760 But what does that have to do with women covering up? 1.00
00:01:32.720 Like, I don't understand.
00:01:33.780 Why does that have to be a sexual thing?
00:01:36.600 So I want to pull on his amazing point here to your answer right here.
00:01:40.580 In the human species, women attract mates often by showing their body, and so we see 1.00
00:01:46.680 that as obscene, whereas men attract mates like a peacock often by showing their wealth
00:01:51.540 on pointless expenditures.
00:01:53.640 I think we would live in a better society if we treated a man who drove around in an ultra 1.00
00:01:58.580 expensive car he didn't need the same way we treat a woman who walks around with little 1.00
00:02:02.540 stickers on her breasts, because he's doing the same thing.
00:02:05.200 He's showing an obscene gender and sexual display to try to get partners in a way that
00:02:11.200 is completely unproductive to our society, in a way that moves society backwards.
00:02:15.800 You're wrong, because it takes care.
00:02:17.560 That's what I was trying to say.
00:02:17.920 You're wrong, because, and I'm not saying you should flaunt it and be overt with it, but
00:02:22.140 it takes character for a man to build a career.
00:02:24.480 It takes trust from the community.
00:02:25.720 A woman is born with it. 1.00
00:02:26.700 A man has to build it.
00:02:27.840 And I respect the man that's worked for himself.
00:02:29.720 And it's the same saying, like, why is this guy with big muscles and a six pack, like,
00:02:33.360 showing it off, because he worked really hard to achieve that.
00:02:35.880 And I might, and I can't look at that with resent.
00:02:38.460 Now, to your point about why your dad might say, I have two daughters myself, and I've
00:02:42.240 had times where my older daughter, you know, she's wearing, like, whatever she's wearing
00:02:46.020 at home, playing her iPad, and I have people coming over.
00:02:49.700 It's not a sexualization thing.
00:02:51.020 It's just, like, it's a respect between dudes thing, because if I went to another man's
00:02:54.280 house and his young daughter is dressed very scantily, I'm like, you're not protecting
00:02:58.040 your daughter, which is a father's duty.
00:02:59.480 It's just a protective mechanism, and men protect.
00:03:01.440 I was in church the other day, and this, like, woman brought her two daughters, and
00:03:08.400 it honestly made me sick, the way they were dressed, because they were so young, and they
00:03:12.640 were, like, they were, like, you could tell it was a single mother, you know, and they
00:03:16.880 were literally, like, dressed like hookers, and they're, like, like a dog, like, they're 0.81
00:03:21.300 in a crop town.
00:03:22.120 This is in church.
00:03:23.340 And I'm thinking, like, I don't think that's a, like, I'm not sexualizing the kid, because
00:03:27.300 I want them to be covered up, and I don't think that's because of men.
00:03:30.380 I just think that's human decency.
00:03:32.240 I agree with that.
00:03:33.640 Right, but before, you guys were saying that the men were sexualizing you, because your
00:03:38.320 dad told you you had to cover up as a kid, and I'm saying, I think that's just human
00:03:41.500 decency, and I don't understand why we're making that into a creepy man thing.
00:03:45.620 I think it's both.
00:03:46.680 I genuinely think it's both.
00:03:47.840 Men have always been more sexual than women. 1.00
00:03:50.020 I actually know.
00:03:50.660 I think women are more sexual than men. 1.00
00:03:52.180 We're more sexual than men.
00:03:52.780 Yeah, I think women are more sexual than men. 1.00
00:03:54.460 So when I see a guy in life, when I see a guy, I don't go, oh, I really want to sleep
00:03:59.200 with him, whereas a man will pass me and go, oh, I would sleep with him.
00:04:02.400 Yeah, but men have no access. 1.00
00:04:03.620 That's the difference, right?
00:04:04.560 So for women, okay, so for women, the social recourse for sex is way higher. 1.00
00:04:11.380 For women, the social risk for sex is way higher. 0.99
00:04:14.420 For women, the bodily damage and all that comes with babies is way higher. 1.00
00:04:18.140 The economic risk is higher, and yet women still choose to have sex. 1.00
00:04:21.120 So the access for women, the punishment is so much higher. 0.69
00:04:25.140 Women actually have a stronger desire. 1.00
00:04:27.000 They're just way better at selecting mates. 0.50
00:04:28.840 Our bar is very low as men. 1.00
00:04:30.520 I agree.
00:04:31.200 And by the way, just coming back to your point, if I were you and you're encouraging fertility
00:04:34.860 rates, I would encourage way more married men to buy supercars, because what it did for 1.00
00:04:38.780 my wife when I got my first, we have four kids, and she used to go, she's like, hey,
00:04:42.940 let's go to the movies, and she's like, let's take that car.
00:04:45.080 And then we'd ride it for a while.
00:04:46.400 She's like, you know what?
00:04:47.520 I'm feeling pretty good about this.
00:04:48.900 So you should be encouraging the opposite of what she said.
00:04:51.360 Oh, yeah, your peacock.
00:04:52.220 I think.
00:04:52.960 To my wife, yes.
00:04:54.420 Yeah, yeah.
00:04:55.200 I used to wear just.
00:04:56.660 I think, okay, so I think that women are more sexual than men. 0.99
00:05:00.960 And the reason, I know this is unpopular opinion, the reason I came to this conclusion is sometimes
00:05:05.100 I think men just couldn't even be bothered with women and sex. 0.72
00:05:08.240 Like, they'll get into this phase of their life where they're just like, I'm done with
00:05:11.020 women. 0.81
00:05:11.540 Women never have that phase. 1.00
00:05:12.940 So I once, like, went to, um, when I was, and this is just anecdotal, I guess, but I
00:05:18.040 went, um, and visited my grandma in high school, and my mom was mad at me one summer.
00:05:24.900 She, like, sent me to my grandma's house for the summer.
00:05:26.820 Yeah.
00:05:27.040 I don't know.
00:05:27.480 Did that happen to any of you?
00:05:28.460 Just me and there.
00:05:29.720 You know.
00:05:30.560 All summer.
00:05:31.360 Yeah, yeah.
00:05:31.920 And I remember I was sitting with, like, a bunch of mostly widowed 70, you know, 60-something
00:05:37.360 old, and they were talking the same way about boys that, like, me and my friends did,
00:05:41.920 and I was in high school.
00:05:43.420 And I just remember thinking, this never ends.
00:05:45.320 But it's like, like, I don't think, go ahead, go ahead.
00:05:47.620 Like, even, like, um, male, like, female books that we read, they're always romantic.
00:05:51.840 They're always about love, sex, that stuff.
00:05:53.680 Exactly.
00:05:54.160 It's measurable.
00:05:55.020 Men, on the other hand, like, it's adventure.
00:05:57.500 It's like, you know, Lord of the Rings or whatever.
00:06:00.020 My brother did Harry Potter, you know.
00:06:02.060 When you look at expenditures per industry, when you look at corn versus romance novels, which
00:06:06.820 is basically female corn. 0.99
00:06:08.340 Right.
00:06:09.800 Huge industry over here.
00:06:11.080 Wait, is it, is it higher than corn?
00:06:13.220 Oh my gosh, is it higher?
00:06:14.860 Oh my gosh.
00:06:16.560 I love it.
00:06:17.400 Women are sex dealers. 1.00
00:06:19.140 They are.
00:06:19.640 But the dynamics are different.
00:06:21.080 I love it.
00:06:21.820 I love it when I have a theory that I'm working on and someone gives me a...
00:06:26.080 You got it.
00:06:26.760 You got it.
00:06:27.320 And the funniest thing, though, is, you know, most men aren't looking at corn on the,
00:06:30.700 on the subway.
00:06:31.400 Women, they are flagrant about it. 1.00
00:06:33.320 They are not even shy about it.
00:06:35.680 But the thing is that the dynamics are different, and this is why we don't recognize it, is women 1.00
00:06:39.260 are much more aroused by dominance and submission, not the actual, like, visual, like, whatever
00:06:45.180 is going on there.
00:06:46.060 That's men.
00:06:46.620 Whereas men are typically more, you know, aroused by the actual visual stuff, which is why you
00:06:52.100 see these different industries.
00:06:53.060 But don't, do not mistake for a second what romance novels are about.
00:06:56.480 It's so stimulating.
00:06:59.600 You get it.
00:07:00.540 You get it.
00:07:01.400 You have to be effective.
00:07:02.400 14, you know.
00:07:06.300 Yes.
00:07:07.120 I was bored of the other books.
00:07:08.620 I think it's something interesting.
00:07:09.760 Even some of these TV shows, too, now, like the female TV shows, like The Notebook, Titanic. 0.80
00:07:16.920 They've gotten frisky.
00:07:17.940 I've noticed that.
00:07:20.540 It's how, like, a lot of shows on Netflix have gotten really frisky.
00:07:24.800 It's all about the guys.
00:07:25.480 You can't watch anything now without any sexual purpose.
00:07:28.040 It's crazy.
00:07:28.600 Also, I've never heard of a long line of men lining up in front of, like, a mental institution
00:07:35.100 writing letters to some crazy woman that killed a kid.
00:07:38.040 But then you see the story of this Dahmer guy, these serial killers, and you see women 1.00
00:07:43.500 literally writing letters to them in prison.
00:07:45.620 But I think one thing that we also need to remember was this, and it's really an interesting
00:08:00.780 phenomenon, and you had Sandman on your show, and he's talked about this in the past as
00:08:03.760 well, is that men are changing.
00:08:06.840 He says, when you look at the men's rights activists who are of, like, Gen Z, they now
00:08:11.040 are able to do something that no men's rights activist before was really able to do in large
00:08:14.420 numbers, which is just be, like...
00:08:15.620 I'm not even trying to, like, not be interested in girls.
00:08:18.200 I just have no interest.
00:08:19.420 And I think that generationally, whether it's due to pollutants or due to lower testosterone
00:08:22.840 rates or whatever is causing this in society, young men are just much less interested in
00:08:28.740 sexuality and sex than they ever have been historically.
00:08:33.500 Yeah, no, I've noticed that, too, because I was thinking even, like, boys' nights versus
00:08:38.160 girls' nights.
00:08:39.060 Like, girls' nights just get together to talk about boys, and then boys will just, like,
00:08:43.580 be doing the dumbest shit together. 0.84
00:08:45.080 But wait, is that an opinion?
00:08:47.880 Is that an opinion or fact?
00:08:49.600 Because when you say that...
00:08:50.560 That's where I'm dropping.
00:08:51.300 It's a fact.
00:08:51.540 No, it's a fact.
00:08:52.300 But then when you say that men are not as sexual these days, it makes me wonder, because
00:08:55.940 nowadays men are paying for sex, subscribing on OnlyFans and many other avenues.
00:09:01.440 So I think men are very sexual these days, but just in the wrong way, if you know what
00:09:06.220 I mean.
00:09:06.440 That's actually a really good point, because you're doing the semen retention thing.
00:09:09.680 That's a really interesting point.
00:09:10.860 Like, a really interesting thing that has happened in society, there's, like, lots of
00:09:14.860 very cool studies on it, is men are just less desperate.
00:09:16.980 And so what happens is, because there's corn on available or whatever, lack of desperation
00:09:21.360 leads to lack of risk-taking.
00:09:23.040 So more desperate men take more risks to produce more status-signaling behavior, because
00:09:28.300 risk and status are very correlated.
00:09:29.740 So what that means is, something like 95% of men have never approached a woman randomly
00:09:34.500 on the street or in a store just to say that they like her and ask for her number.
00:09:37.660 And the reason is, they're just not desperate enough to do it, right?
00:09:39.840 Because right now, a young man can see more naked, beautiful women by the time he's 12
00:09:43.400 than the greatest kings in history I've ever seen, right?
00:09:45.820 And so what happens is, there's no desperation to push the action into a risk-seeking behavior.
00:09:50.280 So we just sit at home and, that word that you used, but there's two really interesting
00:09:54.460 studies I read recently, which I thought I'd share, is women enjoy a tremendous amount 0.94
00:09:58.240 of sexual privilege in the marketplace.
00:09:59.940 And these studies are as follows.
00:10:01.860 When asked, when women are asked, what would be the ideal number of sexual partners they've
00:10:06.280 had last year versus what they imagined they would or wanted to have, women's numbers are 1.00
00:10:10.360 generally very close.
00:10:11.180 The number of partners they want to have is generally what they have.
00:10:13.400 That goes for both promiscuous and unpromiscuous women. 1.00
00:10:15.660 So if a woman is highly promiscuous, she'll say, I wanted 15 partners last year, she'll get 1.00
00:10:18.820 15 partners, right?
00:10:19.960 For men, the discrepancy is very high.
00:10:21.620 A man's ideal number of partners that he would like to have is substantially higher than his
00:10:26.800 actual partners that he's generated.
00:10:28.040 That's the first statistic.
00:10:28.840 The second statistic is what kind of sex men and women want.
00:10:31.500 A man's attractiveness to a woman generally grows with the woman's age.
00:10:34.720 So a 20-year-old woman will find a 25-year-old guy attractive.
00:10:37.240 A 50-year-old woman will still find a 55-year-old guy attractive, et cetera, et cetera.
00:10:40.880 It correlates, right?
00:10:41.820 Whereas for men, they consistently, across all age groups, rank 23-year-old women as the most
00:10:45.440 beautiful.
00:10:45.740 So as men get older, and they're obviously copulating with older women, usually their 0.79
00:10:51.100 wife or whoever, they're not having the ideal sex. 0.99
00:10:53.460 So women get the number of sex partners they want and the kind of sex they want, and men 0.97
00:10:56.780 are suffering from that, right?
00:10:58.000 I just thought it's kind of cool because we don't talk about it.