JustPearlyThings - October 11, 2023


Pearl DEBATES Married Millionaire On Marriage


Episode Stats

Length

8 minutes

Words per Minute

191.75487

Word Count

1,721

Sentence Count

143

Misogynist Sentences

16

Hate Speech Sentences

11


Summary

In this episode, we talk about the future of marriage and why men are walking away from it. We also talk about Cernovich's new book and why he thinks 90% of men who speak out against marriage aren t sought after.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 So I want to give you like my take on marriage in 2023.
00:00:04.740 I want to give you my take.
00:00:05.840 So and then you give me your take, too.
00:00:07.780 I think marriage, traditional marriage is beautiful.
00:00:10.700 I love seeing couples that like make that work.
00:00:13.660 I think it is amazing.
00:00:15.320 But what I what I don't want is men not making an informed decision.
00:00:19.820 So I think that men should be aware of the risks that come with it.
00:00:24.360 So that's kind of my opinion.
00:00:25.880 And I think that some men and this is regardless of what I say or I don't say you're with the laws being how they are.
00:00:34.900 You're going to keep seeing men walk away from marriage until the laws change.
00:00:38.580 It's going to be a bigger and bigger number every year, regardless of what Pearl says, because, again, men are kind of logical.
00:00:45.160 Right. So they kind of weigh the risks of marriage and the reward.
00:00:49.060 And, you know, sometimes they'll meet a girl where the reward is worth it.
00:00:52.500 Right. And they'll say, you know what?
00:00:53.720 I know this system's against me.
00:00:55.240 Some guys go to different countries to figure this out.
00:00:57.680 Like, it just depends on the guy.
00:00:59.720 But until we start lowering the risks, the women of 2023 are definitely worse than the women 20 years ago.
00:01:06.180 Those women are worse than we were just seeing a trend across the board.
00:01:09.440 I don't say this in a happy way.
00:01:10.820 I'm not happy about it.
00:01:12.280 But it's becoming more and more difficult for men to be traditional because many men are punished for being traditional.
00:01:18.640 Yeah.
00:01:18.740 And what I see a lot of times is the men that say, you know what, this is too much.
00:01:25.100 I don't want to do it.
00:01:26.260 They're shamed by the traditional conservatives for making that choice.
00:01:30.500 And I think for men, sometimes, and I think it depends on the guy, right?
00:01:38.180 So, you know, I think a YouTuber is going to have a very different experience than, say, a factory worker.
00:01:43.940 Yeah.
00:01:44.160 And, you know, we need factory workers for this country to run.
00:01:47.780 We need truckers.
00:01:48.640 We need plumbers.
00:01:49.420 And I think they just sometimes have a hard time.
00:01:52.200 And a lot of times, those are the guys we see, like, walk away.
00:01:55.180 Does that make sense?
00:01:55.920 Yeah, yeah.
00:01:56.320 Because, you know, again, with the Instagram economy, it's really hard to have the average woman stay unless you're exceptional as a man.
00:02:02.840 Yeah.
00:02:03.560 Unfortunately, I don't say this in, like, a happy way.
00:02:05.560 So, Cernovich says, 90% of men speaking out against marriage aren't sought after.
00:02:11.880 The truth is that a desired man who isn't a sociopath will date widely enough until he meets someone who has his number, and that's it.
00:02:20.760 The playboy or whatever is a goober myth from a beer commercial.
00:02:24.820 So, I wanted to talk about the first part.
00:02:28.940 In my experience, and this is just from, like, interviewing guys, getting screwed in divorce,
00:02:33.200 I think a lot of the guys that speak out against marriage actually had success in dating and got married and then just got screwed over.
00:02:42.280 Yeah, yeah.
00:02:43.260 I think, I'm a big fan of Mike.
00:02:45.980 I think he's a great guy.
00:02:47.040 He's a great family guy.
00:02:48.240 I agree with him.
00:02:49.440 In regards to 90% of men who speak out against, 90% of men speaking out against marriage aren't sought after.
00:02:57.880 Okay.
00:02:58.160 I mean, if I couldn't get any bitches, and I had six inches taken off my dick, I would probably have the same theory.
00:03:12.100 Yeah, see, I disagree.
00:03:13.980 I disagree.
00:03:15.600 No, no, no, that's it.
00:03:16.940 It's just, I think that there are a lot of attractive men that are actually able,
00:03:24.060 I don't want to use the word dominate to disrespect all the loving and respectful wives out there,
00:03:31.900 but they are the dominant force in the family as the clear, undisputed leader.
00:03:37.740 Like, to the point where you can have a woman say, yeah, you are the man and you are the leader.
00:03:43.660 Now, that doesn't mean she's the donkey or the cow in the relationship.
00:03:46.880 You still love your wife.
00:03:47.940 You treat her good.
00:03:48.460 But I do think that there are a group of men who are good ladies' men.
00:03:53.140 Yeah.
00:03:53.640 These are the sort of men that are ladies' men.
00:03:55.880 These are the sort of men that are good with women, and they get a wife that is actually,
00:04:01.080 and I don't want to use the word subservient, but they are very respectful and they admire their husband.
00:04:09.420 Are there a lot of guys that are simps and get walked over?
00:04:12.320 We both know the answer to that.
00:04:13.600 Well, I think you're just, if the answer is these men that are complaining, are they're just subservient men?
00:04:21.020 Like, do you think 60% of men aren't good enough for marriage?
00:04:24.480 Because 60% of men aren't looking for marriage and relationship.
00:04:27.540 Put it like this, Pearl.
00:04:28.300 So, like, in my head, it's like the average man used to be able to get an average woman.
00:04:33.700 You know, he didn't have to be this, like, six-foot tall.
00:04:36.960 He didn't have to have this amazing job in order to attract a woman.
00:04:41.280 It was like an average guy could get a 120-pound virgin.
00:04:44.960 In Mike's defense, let's just say, for example, Mike here.
00:04:49.640 Mike is, like, six-foot-four, athletic build, successful, highly intelligent.
00:04:54.200 His wife, I've never met his wife, but from what I see, his wife respects him.
00:04:59.980 So he might have not the same, but that doesn't mean every guy can do what he did.
00:05:04.300 Well, that's my point is a lot of times the guys that come at this are kind of like, you know, rich men tend to stay married longer, right?
00:05:12.420 They tend to, the divorce rate's like 25% among, like, rich men.
00:05:17.060 I didn't know that.
00:05:17.620 Yeah, so I think they live in a different reality than the average men in this country.
00:05:22.500 So I'll give you an example.
00:05:23.900 One of the top, in America anyway, one of the top places people are employed is truckers, okay?
00:05:30.280 So, and the average man makes $45,000 a year.
00:05:33.600 I don't think those men are losers.
00:05:35.580 I think a lot of times they speak down on the men that allow us to do what we do, right?
00:05:40.440 Like, doing this, someone in a factory had to make this microphone.
00:05:44.320 You know what I mean?
00:05:44.680 Like, we need factory workers.
00:05:46.060 We need truckers.
00:05:46.700 We need plumbers.
00:05:47.880 And I think that average women don't respect average men anymore.
00:05:52.820 And I think it is very risky because what I've seen, like, just doing the divorce documentary,
00:05:57.500 is the men that get screwed over the most aren't the rich men.
00:06:00.540 The rich men might pay the most, but they can kind of recover and make their money back later.
00:06:05.140 Do you know what I mean?
00:06:05.780 Yeah.
00:06:05.980 It's the average men are the ones, like, that I've seen, like, commit suicide and divorce.
00:06:11.060 Or, like, I would say on the brink of suicide are ones that get false accusations.
00:06:15.200 Or worked the same job for 20 years, and then their wife took half.
00:06:20.520 Like, imagine, like, the average divorce is 46 years old.
00:06:23.940 So, again, like, my one point is that a lot of the men that talk about this,
00:06:28.820 they're not over the average age of first divorce.
00:06:31.340 And a third of them will, half of them will divorce.
00:06:34.440 If they're Christian, it's like a quarter, right?
00:06:36.720 And a lot of the men that commit suicide in this country over this stuff are the men that worked 20 years.
00:06:41.640 Then their wife takes half their shit, alienates them from their children.
00:06:47.440 And they haven't seen them in many, many, like, sometimes it's, like, two, three years.
00:06:51.760 And these are the Uber drivers, the truck drivers, the plumbers, the factory.
00:06:56.160 Like, these are average men.
00:06:57.500 And so, I think a lot of times, like, the tall, good-looking, successful men will kind of shit on them.
00:07:02.620 But most of them can't do what they do without them.
00:07:05.660 Yeah.
00:07:06.120 I mean, speak to your point about plumbers in particular.
00:07:09.040 Plumbers, some construction workers.
00:07:11.480 Yeah.
00:07:11.640 If you think about firefighters.
00:07:13.840 Yeah.
00:07:14.180 These are occupations.
00:07:15.720 Also, because of their exposure to that environment, they may be getting cancer at a higher rate than a general population.
00:07:23.760 Wow.
00:07:24.180 I didn't even think about that.
00:07:25.160 Yeah, so not only is that plumber maybe more exposed to an environment and toxins that give them a higher rate of probability of getting cancer.
00:07:33.020 Same with the firefighter.
00:07:34.080 You should see how many of them get cancer.
00:07:35.720 Wow.
00:07:36.620 Or some of our veterans.
00:07:38.000 Right.
00:07:39.080 Right?
00:07:39.520 So not only are they not making a high income, they're more exposed to these chronic conditions.
00:07:44.320 Mm-hmm.
00:07:44.640 I think they for sure deserve much more respect, at the very least, top-class healthcare.
00:07:49.720 But that's my point is I just think, like, a lot of times they'll kind of say that they're crybabies or whatever.
00:07:55.600 But it's like, no, I don't think it's these men that can't get women.
00:07:59.620 This is just my experience.
00:08:00.680 Maybe you think differently.
00:08:02.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:08:02.500 But I don't see them as these men that can't get women.
00:08:04.800 I see them as average men who thought they signed up for the wife and kids and were absolutely devastated when they had no idea what family court is like.
00:08:16.300 Yeah.
00:08:16.540 And I think until you've really spent, like, a week in family court to see, no, these were not loser men.
00:08:22.460 These were not men that couldn't get.
00:08:24.460 It's just the average men that built this country that are getting absolutely destroyed by these women.
00:08:31.940 And it's not a fringe cases.
00:08:33.780 It's not exceptions.
00:08:35.100 Like, this is common.
00:08:36.920 And I do this on shows all the time.
00:08:38.600 I'll say, do you know a guy that's been falsely accused?
00:08:41.060 Raise your hand.
00:08:42.060 The whole room raises their hands.
00:08:43.500 You know, like, like, this is a huge risk for men.
00:08:47.460 And I don't say don't do it.
00:08:49.180 I think, you know, sometimes you find a woman that you think is worth the risk.
00:08:52.920 And I think that's beautiful.
00:08:54.420 But what I don't think is good is to encourage young men to be naive.