JustPearlyThings - October 11, 2023


Pearl DEBATES Married Millionaire On Marriage


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8 minutes

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1,721

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143

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16

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11

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In this episode, we talk about the future of marriage and why men are walking away from it. We also talk about Cernovich's new book and why he thinks 90% of men who speak out against marriage aren t sought after.

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00:00:00.000 So I want to give you like my take on marriage in 2023.
00:00:04.740 I want to give you my take.
00:00:05.840 So and then you give me your take, too.
00:00:07.780 I think marriage, traditional marriage is beautiful.
00:00:10.700 I love seeing couples that like make that work.
00:00:13.660 I think it is amazing.
00:00:15.320 But what I what I don't want is men not making an informed decision.
00:00:19.820 So I think that men should be aware of the risks that come with it.
00:00:24.360 So that's kind of my opinion.
00:00:25.880 And I think that some men and this is regardless of what I say or I don't say you're with the laws being how they are.
00:00:34.900 You're going to keep seeing men walk away from marriage until the laws change. 1.00
00:00:38.580 It's going to be a bigger and bigger number every year, regardless of what Pearl says, because, again, men are kind of logical.
00:00:45.160 Right. So they kind of weigh the risks of marriage and the reward.
00:00:49.060 And, you know, sometimes they'll meet a girl where the reward is worth it.
00:00:52.500 Right. And they'll say, you know what?
00:00:53.720 I know this system's against me.
00:00:55.240 Some guys go to different countries to figure this out.
00:00:57.680 Like, it just depends on the guy.
00:00:59.720 But until we start lowering the risks, the women of 2023 are definitely worse than the women 20 years ago. 1.00
00:01:06.180 Those women are worse than we were just seeing a trend across the board. 1.00
00:01:09.440 I don't say this in a happy way.
00:01:10.820 I'm not happy about it.
00:01:12.280 But it's becoming more and more difficult for men to be traditional because many men are punished for being traditional.
00:01:18.640 Yeah.
00:01:18.740 And what I see a lot of times is the men that say, you know what, this is too much.
00:01:25.100 I don't want to do it.
00:01:26.260 They're shamed by the traditional conservatives for making that choice.
00:01:30.500 And I think for men, sometimes, and I think it depends on the guy, right?
00:01:38.180 So, you know, I think a YouTuber is going to have a very different experience than, say, a factory worker.
00:01:43.940 Yeah.
00:01:44.160 And, you know, we need factory workers for this country to run. 0.82
00:01:47.780 We need truckers. 1.00
00:01:48.640 We need plumbers. 0.98
00:01:49.420 And I think they just sometimes have a hard time.
00:01:52.200 And a lot of times, those are the guys we see, like, walk away.
00:01:55.180 Does that make sense?
00:01:55.920 Yeah, yeah.
00:01:56.320 Because, you know, again, with the Instagram economy, it's really hard to have the average woman stay unless you're exceptional as a man.
00:02:02.840 Yeah.
00:02:03.560 Unfortunately, I don't say this in, like, a happy way.
00:02:05.560 So, Cernovich says, 90% of men speaking out against marriage aren't sought after.
00:02:11.880 The truth is that a desired man who isn't a sociopath will date widely enough until he meets someone who has his number, and that's it.
00:02:20.760 The playboy or whatever is a goober myth from a beer commercial.
00:02:24.820 So, I wanted to talk about the first part.
00:02:28.940 In my experience, and this is just from, like, interviewing guys, getting screwed in divorce,
00:02:33.200 I think a lot of the guys that speak out against marriage actually had success in dating and got married and then just got screwed over.
00:02:42.280 Yeah, yeah.
00:02:43.260 I think, I'm a big fan of Mike.
00:02:45.980 I think he's a great guy.
00:02:47.040 He's a great family guy.
00:02:48.240 I agree with him.
00:02:49.440 In regards to 90% of men who speak out against, 90% of men speaking out against marriage aren't sought after.
00:02:57.880 Okay.
00:02:58.160 I mean, if I couldn't get any bitches, and I had six inches taken off my dick, I would probably have the same theory. 1.00
00:03:12.100 Yeah, see, I disagree.
00:03:13.980 I disagree.
00:03:15.600 No, no, no, that's it.
00:03:16.940 It's just, I think that there are a lot of attractive men that are actually able,
00:03:24.060 I don't want to use the word dominate to disrespect all the loving and respectful wives out there, 1.00
00:03:31.900 but they are the dominant force in the family as the clear, undisputed leader.
00:03:37.740 Like, to the point where you can have a woman say, yeah, you are the man and you are the leader. 0.95
00:03:43.660 Now, that doesn't mean she's the donkey or the cow in the relationship.
00:03:46.880 You still love your wife.
00:03:47.940 You treat her good.
00:03:48.460 But I do think that there are a group of men who are good ladies' men.
00:03:53.140 Yeah.
00:03:53.640 These are the sort of men that are ladies' men. 0.91
00:03:55.880 These are the sort of men that are good with women, and they get a wife that is actually, 0.90
00:04:01.080 and I don't want to use the word subservient, but they are very respectful and they admire their husband.
00:04:09.420 Are there a lot of guys that are simps and get walked over?
00:04:12.320 We both know the answer to that.
00:04:13.600 Well, I think you're just, if the answer is these men that are complaining, are they're just subservient men?
00:04:21.020 Like, do you think 60% of men aren't good enough for marriage?
00:04:24.480 Because 60% of men aren't looking for marriage and relationship.
00:04:27.540 Put it like this, Pearl.
00:04:28.300 So, like, in my head, it's like the average man used to be able to get an average woman.
00:04:33.700 You know, he didn't have to be this, like, six-foot tall.
00:04:36.960 He didn't have to have this amazing job in order to attract a woman.
00:04:41.280 It was like an average guy could get a 120-pound virgin. 0.99
00:04:44.960 In Mike's defense, let's just say, for example, Mike here.
00:04:49.640 Mike is, like, six-foot-four, athletic build, successful, highly intelligent.
00:04:54.200 His wife, I've never met his wife, but from what I see, his wife respects him.
00:04:59.980 So he might have not the same, but that doesn't mean every guy can do what he did.
00:05:04.300 Well, that's my point is a lot of times the guys that come at this are kind of like, you know, rich men tend to stay married longer, right?
00:05:12.420 They tend to, the divorce rate's like 25% among, like, rich men.
00:05:17.060 I didn't know that.
00:05:17.620 Yeah, so I think they live in a different reality than the average men in this country. 0.50
00:05:22.500 So I'll give you an example.
00:05:23.900 One of the top, in America anyway, one of the top places people are employed is truckers, okay?
00:05:30.280 So, and the average man makes $45,000 a year.
00:05:33.600 I don't think those men are losers.
00:05:35.580 I think a lot of times they speak down on the men that allow us to do what we do, right?
00:05:40.440 Like, doing this, someone in a factory had to make this microphone.
00:05:44.320 You know what I mean?
00:05:44.680 Like, we need factory workers. 0.80
00:05:46.060 We need truckers. 1.00
00:05:46.700 We need plumbers. 0.98
00:05:47.880 And I think that average women don't respect average men anymore. 0.88
00:05:52.820 And I think it is very risky because what I've seen, like, just doing the divorce documentary,
00:05:57.500 is the men that get screwed over the most aren't the rich men.
00:06:00.540 The rich men might pay the most, but they can kind of recover and make their money back later.
00:06:05.140 Do you know what I mean?
00:06:05.780 Yeah.
00:06:05.980 It's the average men are the ones, like, that I've seen, like, commit suicide and divorce.
00:06:11.060 Or, like, I would say on the brink of suicide are ones that get false accusations.
00:06:15.200 Or worked the same job for 20 years, and then their wife took half.
00:06:20.520 Like, imagine, like, the average divorce is 46 years old.
00:06:23.940 So, again, like, my one point is that a lot of the men that talk about this,
00:06:28.820 they're not over the average age of first divorce.
00:06:31.340 And a third of them will, half of them will divorce.
00:06:34.440 If they're Christian, it's like a quarter, right? 1.00
00:06:36.720 And a lot of the men that commit suicide in this country over this stuff are the men that worked 20 years.
00:06:41.640 Then their wife takes half their shit, alienates them from their children. 0.86
00:06:47.440 And they haven't seen them in many, many, like, sometimes it's, like, two, three years.
00:06:51.760 And these are the Uber drivers, the truck drivers, the plumbers, the factory.
00:06:56.160 Like, these are average men.
00:06:57.500 And so, I think a lot of times, like, the tall, good-looking, successful men will kind of shit on them.
00:07:02.620 But most of them can't do what they do without them.
00:07:05.660 Yeah.
00:07:06.120 I mean, speak to your point about plumbers in particular.
00:07:09.040 Plumbers, some construction workers.
00:07:11.480 Yeah.
00:07:11.640 If you think about firefighters.
00:07:13.840 Yeah.
00:07:14.180 These are occupations.
00:07:15.720 Also, because of their exposure to that environment, they may be getting cancer at a higher rate than a general population.
00:07:23.760 Wow.
00:07:24.180 I didn't even think about that.
00:07:25.160 Yeah, so not only is that plumber maybe more exposed to an environment and toxins that give them a higher rate of probability of getting cancer.
00:07:33.020 Same with the firefighter.
00:07:34.080 You should see how many of them get cancer.
00:07:35.720 Wow.
00:07:36.620 Or some of our veterans.
00:07:38.000 Right.
00:07:39.080 Right?
00:07:39.520 So not only are they not making a high income, they're more exposed to these chronic conditions.
00:07:44.320 Mm-hmm.
00:07:44.640 I think they for sure deserve much more respect, at the very least, top-class healthcare.
00:07:49.720 But that's my point is I just think, like, a lot of times they'll kind of say that they're crybabies or whatever.
00:07:55.600 But it's like, no, I don't think it's these men that can't get women.
00:07:59.620 This is just my experience.
00:08:00.680 Maybe you think differently.
00:08:02.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:08:02.500 But I don't see them as these men that can't get women.
00:08:04.800 I see them as average men who thought they signed up for the wife and kids and were absolutely devastated when they had no idea what family court is like.
00:08:16.300 Yeah.
00:08:16.540 And I think until you've really spent, like, a week in family court to see, no, these were not loser men.
00:08:22.460 These were not men that couldn't get.
00:08:24.460 It's just the average men that built this country that are getting absolutely destroyed by these women. 1.00
00:08:31.940 And it's not a fringe cases.
00:08:33.780 It's not exceptions.
00:08:35.100 Like, this is common.
00:08:36.920 And I do this on shows all the time.
00:08:38.600 I'll say, do you know a guy that's been falsely accused?
00:08:41.060 Raise your hand.
00:08:42.060 The whole room raises their hands.
00:08:43.500 You know, like, like, this is a huge risk for men.
00:08:47.460 And I don't say don't do it.
00:08:49.180 I think, you know, sometimes you find a woman that you think is worth the risk. 1.00
00:08:52.920 And I think that's beautiful.
00:08:54.420 But what I don't think is good is to encourage young men to be naive.