JustPearlyThings - June 25, 2023


Pearl DEBUNKS Woke Woman On Trans Sports


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11 minutes

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00:00:00.000 I always got the impression that it wasn't really enough transgender people to have their own sort of sports.
00:00:04.460 So I will hypothesize how I would temporarily fix this situation later because I don't want to ramble too much and let everyone because these guys haven't really spoken yet.
00:00:12.940 So obviously you're an athlete, so you've actually played.
00:00:16.600 So you actively, you can have an opinion because you're in that situation.
00:00:20.800 So personally, my opinion is that it's kind of, it's just really a struggle, I feel, for like a female athlete.
00:00:32.760 You're going there, obviously you just mentioned that you go there and it's like for transgender players on the opposing side.
00:00:39.420 And it's like, do you feel uncomfortable?
00:00:41.800 Do you feel like, oh, you know, I might not be able to be, you know, like you're not comparable biologically.
00:00:49.300 Do you know what I mean? Because like there's a difference.
00:00:51.120 No, I don't think it's comparable. I mean, I've played with men.
00:00:54.140 So like I've played like basketball, like you always play at park.
00:00:58.460 So I've played pickup, but I know if I play, I've played basketball for maybe 16 years.
00:01:03.580 And I know if I go against a guy who's played maybe five to seven, he'll beat me like easy.
00:01:09.620 Yeah, I think it's like, I personally feel like if there are, like you're saying, I mean, there's like four transgender people on the other side.
00:01:17.820 I feel like then you should just have volleyball specifically just for transgender people, because then that would make more sense, right?
00:01:26.480 It's just, it's just not, I feel like it's not fair.
00:01:30.280 It's just not fair.
00:01:31.880 You know, there's too many exceptions.
00:01:34.700 And then when there's too many exceptions, it just gets messy.
00:01:36.860 So it should really be straightforward.
00:01:38.720 You know, this is volleyball for transgender people, you know?
00:01:42.040 So you think there should be a third league?
00:01:43.900 There definitely should be one.
00:01:45.120 Okay. What do you think?
00:01:45.820 Yeah, I agree with the lady here.
00:01:50.280 I think there should be a whole separate league for you guys, because thinking of the people that are coming to watch it, right?
00:01:58.280 Their mindsets are like, if it's just women playing, there should be just women playing, right?
00:02:04.120 And they're coming to support their women that are playing, right?
00:02:07.600 So I just feel like maybe if they had their own league with their own supporters, it kind of works out.
00:02:14.040 But change is going to come at some point where we are going to integrate both, all three genders, right?
00:02:20.760 I hope not.
00:02:21.900 Oh, you never know.
00:02:23.060 Oh gosh, I hope not.
00:02:24.000 Times are changing, so.
00:02:25.540 No, no.
00:02:26.780 If I went up against a 6'7 dude, I would never get to play.
00:02:29.400 You know, because I understand, because I know a lot of the argument is like, well, I'm tall.
00:02:35.060 Like, I'd be taller than a lot of, you know, people that are trans that transitioned or whatever.
00:02:38.560 But I think the issue that I get into is like, still the top percentage are going to be taller than the top percentage of women.
00:02:46.620 Yeah.
00:02:47.260 Do you know if that four-person team, they were all taller than you?
00:02:51.240 Or did you meet them?
00:02:53.360 Yeah.
00:02:54.560 Some were taller, some were shorter.
00:02:56.600 Like, one was a libero.
00:02:59.440 But even, you could just tell, like, when they were playing, like, they're just more athletic.
00:03:05.040 Volleyball is a really technical sport, right?
00:03:07.160 So, you have to train for, like, I don't know.
00:03:10.780 I would say, like, five years before you really even get good volley rallies going.
00:03:15.340 But, like, men can kind of just do it off the cuff because they're just so much stronger.
00:03:19.340 It's hard to explain unless you know the sport.
00:03:21.080 I can imagine that there is an advantage with being taller because of the height of the net, right?
00:03:25.100 It's going to be easier to hit it over.
00:03:26.360 Even back row just, it's so weird.
00:03:28.940 Guys can do these just, like, crazy ups that women just, it takes us so much longer to get there.
00:03:34.780 Did you find the same disadvantage even with the shorter players?
00:03:39.220 Yes.
00:03:40.020 And it was strength, so they hit harder?
00:03:42.900 Or?
00:03:43.560 I would say they were just a bit quick.
00:03:45.660 You can just tell, I can't really describe what it was.
00:03:48.940 You could just tell the difference.
00:03:50.400 Like, they're a little bit quicker, a little bit more agile.
00:03:53.280 Like, they could just do things that the women couldn't.
00:03:57.000 Okay.
00:03:57.400 So, you guys, you think it depends on the sport, right?
00:04:05.120 So, what would you say?
00:04:06.440 Do you think there are certain sports that trans people should be banned from?
00:04:09.400 Would you agree with that?
00:04:14.280 It's hard because, say, for example, you take a, I don't know, you take a trans woman.
00:04:19.920 Okay.
00:04:21.860 They, I don't know, I don't, to be honest, I don't know the process, but, like, if you had
00:04:28.560 a trans woman who had been taking puberty blockers from young, therefore did not necessarily
00:04:34.320 go through puberty as, like, a cis man, who then started taking hormone therapy to develop
00:04:44.260 as a female, and therefore has no hormonal advantage, and so I don't know how many hours
00:04:58.640 they put in, I don't know how much they've worked out, I don't know, but if they are
00:05:03.200 on the same sort of hormonal level, if that would make a difference, if that would give
00:05:09.040 them an advantage, or if that would be them on a level playing field with someone like
00:05:13.540 you, then, I don't know.
00:05:16.400 So, I do think that there are certain sports where it is a little bit dangerous, and sometimes
00:05:24.720 it can be irresponsible to put someone in a situation, for example, like you said, boxing,
00:05:34.220 or, like, a combat sport, if someone, like, for example, if they got to a certain age where
00:05:41.380 they've been through puberty, they've been in the gym, you know, they'd trained as a boxer,
00:05:46.100 as, like, a cis man for years and years, and then decided to transition and enter into women's
00:05:51.320 league, I think that might be slightly irresponsible.
00:05:53.680 Like, the level of strength and power that that person has over a cis female might be insane,
00:05:59.900 but then, like I said before, I know some insanely strong cis females.
00:06:03.520 So, again, I can't give you a definitive answer.
00:06:07.960 I can't say whether or not I think it's good or bad.
00:06:10.660 I do think that sports has an insanely positive, like, repercussion on the person who takes part
00:06:22.620 in it, like, you as a sports person, that's your, I can imagine that's your move in meditation.
00:06:26.880 When I play ice hockey, that's my move in meditation.
00:06:29.500 Nothing outside the ice ring matters.
00:06:32.100 It's like everything that's going crazy in my head just goes into its beautiful filing cabinet,
00:06:36.540 and it, everything just makes sense for a while.
00:06:39.060 So, to take that away from someone who is merely trying to live the life that they feel is right
00:06:47.660 for them, who is not hurting anyone, who's not going out of their way to cause malice
00:06:52.580 or anything like that, I think that's harsh.
00:06:55.460 But I think it does hurt people, because it hurts, like, it's kind of like if I train for 16 years
00:07:00.640 just to have opportunity taken and given to someone that I would say has an advantage.
00:07:04.660 Like, I don't think there's any amount of drugs that you can make it equal.
00:07:07.260 Because I think, I think at the end of the day, like, you still are what you're born.
00:07:12.000 A hundred percent, and it's, it's, it's, it is always going to be a hard situation,
00:07:18.140 and I do think it's always going to be something that should be seen case by case,
00:07:22.060 because it also, you know, there's so many things that, that go into it.
00:07:25.980 It's the person's mentality, you know, like, you know, if you go into something like boxing,
00:07:30.820 are you just trying to score points?
00:07:31.860 Are you trying to be malicious and hurt your person?
00:07:33.220 Timeboxes usually get to, like, pick who they're fighting.
00:07:37.460 I think, I think the issue was there was a case a couple years ago where they didn't,
00:07:41.800 it was, um, someone didn't disclose, I could be wrong, but I think they didn't disclose they were trans.
00:07:48.260 I don't know.
00:07:48.960 And then someone got hurt, I'm pretty sure.
00:07:51.360 The only one I know, they did know she was trans, but, I don't know.
00:07:55.380 All I know is, I, yeah, I just think, if you sign up for it, go ahead.
00:07:59.900 Because there are girls out there who are crazy enough to be like, hell yeah,
00:08:02.780 they just, they, they like the competition.
00:08:05.020 I mean, I will say there is one benefit to, I won't say training with men,
00:08:09.240 because it's training with trans women, but, but let's just say both,
00:08:12.040 if they have an advantage, is it does push you to be better,
00:08:15.800 because, you know, you've got that competition to compete with.
00:08:19.380 But, but, with team sports, it's really, um, complicated,
00:08:24.120 because it's not just one person versus one person.
00:08:26.360 It's not just, you know, like, I don't know, swimming,
00:08:28.640 where it's, everyone's running in a line, or swimming in a line.
00:08:32.340 It's a lot more complicated when it's team sports.
00:08:34.880 What did you guys think of Leah Thomas?
00:08:38.460 Did you guys agree with that?
00:08:39.700 I think that the way that they dealt with Leah Thomas was really bad,
00:08:43.020 because, so she won fifth place, right, joint with another girl,
00:08:48.260 and then they said, we're going to give the trophy to the Leah Thomas,
00:08:52.480 and I'm like,
00:08:53.220 Do you think Leah Thomas should have been allowed to swim, though?
00:08:56.700 Um, under the rules that they put in, she didn't do anything wrong.
00:09:02.400 No matter your personal.
00:09:05.380 So, I mean, she was quite significantly bigger than the rest of them, right?
00:09:11.100 And lung capacity is actually really important with swimming.
00:09:15.480 I don't know about height as much, but sometimes it's,
00:09:17.820 I mean,
00:09:20.540 I need a yes or a no.
00:09:23.120 She only came fifth, right, though?
00:09:25.240 No, she won a different one.
00:09:27.120 Oh, she won another one?
00:09:27.400 Yeah, there was more than one event.
00:09:29.040 I only heard more about the person,
00:09:30.560 because the other person didn't even get to hold the trophy,
00:09:32.840 because they said Leah Thomas is going to get it.
00:09:35.080 And I'm like, that's really poor organizing.
00:09:36.700 Well, I think, because my issue with it is, again,
00:09:39.080 it's like, we train, especially in women's sports,
00:09:41.360 we train so long, and there's no money in it.
00:09:44.000 There's, like, no money at the end of that.
00:09:45.860 So it's like, you train your whole life for a couple opportunities that you get.
00:09:50.280 And so she trained, like, and especially just, like, as an athlete,
00:09:53.580 I know how long we, like, look forward to our senior year of college.
00:09:57.120 Like, that's like, you've trained your whole life.
00:09:58.860 This is the best you're going to be.
00:10:00.080 You're probably not going to play after this.
00:10:01.840 She gets to that moment, and it's taken from her,
00:10:04.660 if I'm being honest, because I just don't think it's fair.
00:10:07.680 I mean, I can hypothesize now how I would fix these situations,
00:10:11.020 at least temporarily for the meantime.
00:10:12.920 With something like swimming, it's really easy, right?
00:10:15.360 So you simply just have additional trophies,
00:10:18.640 and then you give them one for whatever number that they represent,
00:10:21.840 but the cis women aren't losing out.
00:10:23.360 So if there are, say it's a qualifier, there are 20 places,
00:10:27.060 but one of them goes to a trans woman,
00:10:29.060 just let the 21st place go in as well.
00:10:31.660 No, I just don't think we should be forced to compete with them.
00:10:34.600 Like, even if it's an individual sport.
00:10:36.700 Well, that way no one's really losing out, right?
00:10:38.560 If we have additional trophies,
00:10:39.900 we can say cis women first, second, third.
00:10:42.100 If Leah Thomas comes third, she can be third as a trip.
00:10:43.740 But then we have to make all these exceptions.
00:10:45.960 Like, I just think it gets confusing,
00:10:48.200 and I just think we should stick it to biological men, biological women.
00:10:51.680 Can I make a point?
00:10:53.440 Like, is it really a competition if everyone's a winner?
00:10:57.060 I mean, that's not everyone's a winner.
00:10:58.680 They would only place if they match the time
00:11:01.900 or come in between of the time of a cis woman.
00:11:04.260 So it wouldn't be like, it's better than what is now, right?
00:11:07.640 It would be better than what's now,
00:11:09.200 because otherwise the trans woman would simply just take the place
00:11:12.260 that won't be an additional place for a cis woman.
00:11:15.520 Let me ask a question.
00:11:16.280 I'm looking at compromises rather than saying.
00:11:18.260 Yeah.