Pearl DEBUNKS Woke Woman On Trans Sports
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In this episode, we discuss the topic of transgender volleyball players in sports, and whether or not there should be a third league for them. We also talk about the benefits and disadvantages of being a transgender player in sports.
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I always got the impression that it wasn't really enough transgender people to have their own sort of sports.
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So I will hypothesize how I would temporarily fix this situation later because I don't want to ramble too much and let everyone because these guys haven't really spoken yet.
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So obviously you're an athlete, so you've actually played.
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So you actively, you can have an opinion because you're in that situation.
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So personally, my opinion is that it's kind of, it's just really a struggle, I feel, for like a female athlete.
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You're going there, obviously you just mentioned that you go there and it's like for transgender players on the opposing side.
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Do you feel like, oh, you know, I might not be able to be, you know, like you're not comparable biologically.
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Do you know what I mean? Because like there's a difference.
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No, I don't think it's comparable. I mean, I've played with men.
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So like I've played like basketball, like you always play at park.
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So I've played pickup, but I know if I play, I've played basketball for maybe 16 years.
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And I know if I go against a guy who's played maybe five to seven, he'll beat me like easy.
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Yeah, I think it's like, I personally feel like if there are, like you're saying, I mean, there's like four transgender people on the other side.
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I feel like then you should just have volleyball specifically just for transgender people, because then that would make more sense, right?
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It's just, it's just not, I feel like it's not fair.
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And then when there's too many exceptions, it just gets messy.
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You know, this is volleyball for transgender people, you know?
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I think there should be a whole separate league for you guys, because thinking of the people that are coming to watch it, right?
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Their mindsets are like, if it's just women playing, there should be just women playing, right?
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And they're coming to support their women that are playing, right?
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So I just feel like maybe if they had their own league with their own supporters, it kind of works out.
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But change is going to come at some point where we are going to integrate both, all three genders, right?
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If I went up against a 6'7 dude, I would never get to play.
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You know, because I understand, because I know a lot of the argument is like, well, I'm tall.
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Like, I'd be taller than a lot of, you know, people that are trans that transitioned or whatever.
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But I think the issue that I get into is like, still the top percentage are going to be taller than the top percentage of women.
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Do you know if that four-person team, they were all taller than you?
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But even, you could just tell, like, when they were playing, like, they're just more athletic.
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I would say, like, five years before you really even get good volley rallies going.
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But, like, men can kind of just do it off the cuff because they're just so much stronger.
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It's hard to explain unless you know the sport.
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I can imagine that there is an advantage with being taller because of the height of the net, right?
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Guys can do these just, like, crazy ups that women just, it takes us so much longer to get there.
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Did you find the same disadvantage even with the shorter players?
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You can just tell, I can't really describe what it was.
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Like, they're a little bit quicker, a little bit more agile.
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Like, they could just do things that the women couldn't.
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So, you guys, you think it depends on the sport, right?
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Do you think there are certain sports that trans people should be banned from?
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It's hard because, say, for example, you take a, I don't know, you take a trans woman.
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They, I don't know, I don't, to be honest, I don't know the process, but, like, if you had
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a trans woman who had been taking puberty blockers from young, therefore did not necessarily
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go through puberty as, like, a cis man, who then started taking hormone therapy to develop
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as a female, and therefore has no hormonal advantage, and so I don't know how many hours
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they put in, I don't know how much they've worked out, I don't know, but if they are
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on the same sort of hormonal level, if that would make a difference, if that would give
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them an advantage, or if that would be them on a level playing field with someone like
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So, I do think that there are certain sports where it is a little bit dangerous, and sometimes
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it can be irresponsible to put someone in a situation, for example, like you said, boxing,
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or, like, a combat sport, if someone, like, for example, if they got to a certain age where
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they've been through puberty, they've been in the gym, you know, they'd trained as a boxer,
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as, like, a cis man for years and years, and then decided to transition and enter into women's
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league, I think that might be slightly irresponsible.
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Like, the level of strength and power that that person has over a cis female might be insane,
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but then, like I said before, I know some insanely strong cis females.
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So, again, I can't give you a definitive answer.
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I can't say whether or not I think it's good or bad.
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I do think that sports has an insanely positive, like, repercussion on the person who takes part
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in it, like, you as a sports person, that's your, I can imagine that's your move in meditation.
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When I play ice hockey, that's my move in meditation.
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It's like everything that's going crazy in my head just goes into its beautiful filing cabinet,
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and it, everything just makes sense for a while.
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So, to take that away from someone who is merely trying to live the life that they feel is right
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for them, who is not hurting anyone, who's not going out of their way to cause malice
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But I think it does hurt people, because it hurts, like, it's kind of like if I train for 16 years
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just to have opportunity taken and given to someone that I would say has an advantage.
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Like, I don't think there's any amount of drugs that you can make it equal.
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Because I think, I think at the end of the day, like, you still are what you're born.
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A hundred percent, and it's, it's, it's, it is always going to be a hard situation,
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and I do think it's always going to be something that should be seen case by case,
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because it also, you know, there's so many things that, that go into it.
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It's the person's mentality, you know, like, you know, if you go into something like boxing,
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Are you trying to be malicious and hurt your person?
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Timeboxes usually get to, like, pick who they're fighting.
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I think, I think the issue was there was a case a couple years ago where they didn't,
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it was, um, someone didn't disclose, I could be wrong, but I think they didn't disclose they were trans.
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The only one I know, they did know she was trans, but, I don't know.
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All I know is, I, yeah, I just think, if you sign up for it, go ahead.
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Because there are girls out there who are crazy enough to be like, hell yeah,
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they just, they, they like the competition.
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I mean, I will say there is one benefit to, I won't say training with men,
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because it's training with trans women, but, but let's just say both,
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if they have an advantage, is it does push you to be better,
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because, you know, you've got that competition to compete with.
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But, but, with team sports, it's really, um, complicated,
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because it's not just one person versus one person.
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It's not just, you know, like, I don't know, swimming,
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where it's, everyone's running in a line, or swimming in a line.
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It's a lot more complicated when it's team sports.
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I think that the way that they dealt with Leah Thomas was really bad,
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because, so she won fifth place, right, joint with another girl,
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and then they said, we're going to give the trophy to the Leah Thomas,
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Do you think Leah Thomas should have been allowed to swim, though?
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Um, under the rules that they put in, she didn't do anything wrong.
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So, I mean, she was quite significantly bigger than the rest of them, right?
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And lung capacity is actually really important with swimming.
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I don't know about height as much, but sometimes it's,
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because the other person didn't even get to hold the trophy,
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because they said Leah Thomas is going to get it.
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Well, I think, because my issue with it is, again,
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it's like, we train, especially in women's sports,
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So it's like, you train your whole life for a couple opportunities that you get.
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And so she trained, like, and especially just, like, as an athlete,
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I know how long we, like, look forward to our senior year of college.
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Like, that's like, you've trained your whole life.
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She gets to that moment, and it's taken from her,
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if I'm being honest, because I just don't think it's fair.
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I mean, I can hypothesize now how I would fix these situations,
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With something like swimming, it's really easy, right?
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and then you give them one for whatever number that they represent,
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So if there are, say it's a qualifier, there are 20 places,
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No, I just don't think we should be forced to compete with them.
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Well, that way no one's really losing out, right?
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If Leah Thomas comes third, she can be third as a trip.
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and I just think we should stick it to biological men, biological women.
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Like, is it really a competition if everyone's a winner?
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So it wouldn't be like, it's better than what is now, right?
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because otherwise the trans woman would simply just take the place
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that won't be an additional place for a cis woman.
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