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- July 04, 2023
Pearl DESTROYED This Modern Woman
Episode Stats
Length
15 minutes
Words per Minute
191.50992
Word Count
2,973
Sentence Count
2
Misogynist Sentences
26
Hate Speech Sentences
15
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you know what i wonder because like then who if you don't get married who takes care of you
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you can take care of yourself mature people why we are well no but i'm saying at some
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point you're gonna have health that everyone does but can i just say something like we don't need
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there's there's there's a difference between a woman choosing to be single because i feel that
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it's always a choice for women it is always a choice for men as well it's a choice for men
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no it's not not when not when one out of three men are sexless it's not a choice
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it's not like there's a whole group of men that have no choice because no women want them most
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men didn't even reproduce historically only 40 of men reproduced but so how does that take away from
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the because because again because women what all right now in modern times what what starts
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relationships sex right women are in control of sex there's always someone willing to sleep with
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a woman there's always someone willing to date a woman that is true always there's not always someone
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willing to date a man right that may be so so therefore women always have choice men do not
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okay let me tell you why that is true and also not true okay because in the beginning yes you're right
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a woman does have control of the sex part in terms of like introducing sex but once the sex relationship
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is established the power dynamics completely change you're you're right you're right but my point
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is where does it start and you you may be you some of you guys are a bit older but in modern times
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in modern times and most relationships start with sex no if you yes i mean i'm not maybe in tinder
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and tinder dating apps are the number one people way people are meeting under the age of 30.
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yeah come on you you know because we can't we can't speak from a personal experience because we have to
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speak right right speaking from a general experience yeah yeah so i understand that but we can't ignore
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the fact that that the power dynamics do change with men in terms of they take leadership of where
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the relationship will go most women actually wait on the man to be to define the relationship whether
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where we are where are we women but we pick the type of men we date right so you so you either pick a
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marriage-minded guy or you don't it's true that's true as well that's very true but what i'm saying in terms
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of like wait until you're 60 you could for example i was i was in a relationship for 13 years was
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married um i got married quite young well some would say i'm young 24 years old um and then in my late
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20s i was my first partner from the time i was 16 years old so i start actually dating dating at the
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age of 28 right and i'm in my mid-30s now um i've only been let's say single roughly around six years
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so now i'm now looking for a relationship because i love love i want to be in a relationship i want
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to be married again i love companionship i believe in idea i believe in the idea um but i can find a
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partner and we may be married for like 20 years so let's say 45 55 i'm not saying i'm not putting that
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into the atmosphere i hope that is for life but let's say we may be married for 20 years and anything
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can happen it might be a loss people lose you know i lost my close friend my best friend in january and
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her partner now is a widow for example and he's only in his they're both in the mid 30s so anything can
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happen it could be life we all we're not the same people as we are 10 years ago one of the reasons i
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don't i don't think that matters though i don't think it matters because you know why because i say
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oh 100 it matters i'm gonna go to that point but what i'm trying to say is so now 50 you're 55 for whatever
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reason now the separation you know is it's done um i don't think that you take away your experience
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that you've had for the past 20 years so you had a good 20 years of experience just like many people
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like our grandparents a lot of them lose their partners um but they still are you know yeah they
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become lonely but sometimes it's not all about choices sometimes things in life happens as humans
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we're human individually well no but i would say the majority of single women it's a choice
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i mean i mean we could we could talk about being a widow that's an exception but the rule is it's a
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choice women leave relationships men don't why do after there's context behind that no one leaves i
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think women will always make up a reason there's always some reason like grow apart marriage isn't
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about growing apart it's not about liking your partner it's about duty 100 so when the juice exactly
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so both men so i have a role in my marriage and the man has a role in his marriage so what if the man
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is not fulfilling those those marriages remember well but then it's like it's so hypocritical because it's like
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well women are supposed to be virgins on their wedding night most women are virgins on their
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wedding night so we're not perfect either but yet we expect perfection from our husband no there's
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not perfection no one's expecting perfection i literally just asked there are duties i'm not
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perfect neither is he i'm not no one's talking about perfections here we're talking about standard
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expectations right within a marriage so if that man for example because um you you said people change
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people i mean the matter of changing doesn't um exist for someone i got to know i mean it doesn't
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exist but it doesn't i said i i think i implied it was a silly reason for divorce and the reason why
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i say that for example i met my partner at 16 years old right in college right when you meet someone at
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16 with both kids the what you're looking for a partner in your when you're 16 it's completely different
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when you become an adult oh you know who now knows in a way what they want because they become they
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come into their own adulthood you know who they are as a person so in that time as we're growing up
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as when we became adults we got to a point where we both knew in a way because you i think someone
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mentioned about compatibility right there there is more to marriage and relationships than love
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there's other thing that constitutes marriage we both didn't understand what constituted marriage
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maybe because of our age at the time uh we didn't have that we weren't equipped with the right mindset
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when we got into the situation because it's not just oh i love you let's get married so what is
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what does that mean though i need a specific example so what i'm saying to you is if you if two people
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that are not compatible end up in the marriage there are things that are going to happen eventually
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that's going to bring up issues either resentment towards each other because one person is expecting
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that person to mirror the other person that's going and that goes vice versa between men well what is
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the i can have a specific example of what this means because i it's just this is very broad so i need
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any okay so for example a man for example you're in a relationship and let's say you start earning
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more than your partner because we're growing signing more than your partner um you both grow halves on
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each other but for some reason that man okay feels less than a man because he's earning less than you
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now this is not nothing really that i can actually do because that's an individual thing for a person i would
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ask why he feels that way because a lot of times what women do is they throw it in the guy's face
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and they constantly bring a lot of women do a lot of women do but i'm not i'm not talking about you
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it's wrong and it's unfair and yeah but i'm not but i'm not talking about a lot of women do but i think
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sometimes as well we have to be very balanced in terms of sometimes we push this narrative that women
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there's top there's 100 toxic women that you're speaking of but we're not talking in this context so
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there are there are sometimes that men within themselves feel that they haven't found themselves
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which is in a way in our 20s we're still finding ourselves and then they may feel inferior because
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they might be earning less and then i've never heard a guy talk about finding himself that's like
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i've heard guys talk about maturing but i i've but that's that's maturing is finding yourself
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typically when men talk about finding themselves is because they've heard it a lot from women and they
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know that that is a language that works with women so most of the time they're just lying to you
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because they want to get something from you can i can i suggest that's a language i'm sorry when
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you're talking about um they've heard it from women sometimes it's not it could be a very it could be
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various circumstances that come about that a man has to find himself it could be yes he's come out of
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a relationship it could be he's trying to find the right career it could be it could be it could be
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a religious from a religious perspective he needs to look within himself to to you know become this
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greater being it's not just and we're putting a lot of things oh it's the women it's the women
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and not a woman throwing something in the mouth the reason we say it's the woman because the data
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indicates that it is so the data the data talks about who files for a divorce you can just look
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it up so what do you mean there's no context what i'm saying to you is you said statistics
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statistics might be fact in the western world because that's what the stick but i don't know yeah uk and
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us okay but there is no context as to the reasons why because i'll tell you something why i why i'm
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saying this a woman will stick more in a relationship a toxic relationship an abusive relationship for
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many many many many many many more years than a man would women pick toxic relationships so they don't
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how do you how do you how do you get into a relationship with someone if you don't pick them
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because people change this is an excuse that women use this is an excuse that women use to justify
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picking poorly so 90 90 of the time when women are in toxic relationships it's because they didn't get
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their father's advice their brother's advice or their friend's advice half the time they're everybody is
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warning them telling them not to date them and they do anyway are you the same person you are 10 years
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ago you am am i the same person i would say i have very similar traits than i did 10 years ago
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and i just think i don't think i don't think this stuff matters like i just think because nobody when
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you take vows it's for better or for worse and sickness and it's not it's not it's not it's not for
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when for when we grow apart no that's not the reason i'm not a man obviously but i think a man will leave
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if he's not if he's not 100 there and he doesn't want to be with you he will leave he would disrespect
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you he will not call you he will not return those messages he's left he's not interested you're holding
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on to something you're you're almost like begging to be with somebody you're trying to make this work
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a woman will do that but a man has already left and men but the men don't leave the majority of the
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the time when they're cheating when they're speaking it's only a small percentage of men
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that can cheat it's a very small percentage of men that actually can can i add dynamic
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it also takes courage and good that you're saying that a lot of women are the one who leaves it takes
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courage to leave a relationship no i disagree it does especially in a society that sees
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it takes courage to do the easy thing no what's the easy thing the easy thing is to leave
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have you been married before this is this is the crazy thing
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what i want to see because you're making it personal when it's not personal
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because i asked pearl i'm having a really normal constructive um conversation for you
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i shared my experience within my marriage and i said to you i got with someone that was 16 we're both
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young yeah and i think at 16 like i said your your your views and relationship in terms of what you want
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is very different when you think i understand your point of view that if a woman at a certain age
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when they're adults now should make now healthier choices and better decisions so when they do
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make those choices as adults they should make you know healthier and better decisions so when they
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are in the marriage that that marriage actually is a healthy marriage i understand that point of view
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but when i'm giving you examples i'm saying that there's a lot of context behind your so-called
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statistics that you get from wherever you get but when i ask you are you married it's not a dig at you
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it's because you can only speak of what like our knowledge and our experience our knowledge
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i don't think i don't think the person i don't think the person i don't think the person
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i don't think that the person saying something matters is it true or is it not true is it harder
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to stick something out or to leave like you can only know that if you've been in someone's shoes
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it makes no sense unless you've been in someone's shoes the question you want to ask if she was
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married so if she if she's been married if she's been married what's the experience the thing is
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it's the experience so she's married that she would understand and i want to understand where her
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perspective do you know why do you know why because women usually that haven't been married are usually
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the women that come at women that have been married it's usually the case so no let me say something
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to do no happily married people no ever my point is my point is my point is my point is if you say
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have you been married it makes complete sense okay can you change your question then let me just make
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my point is if you ask her have you been married and you don't follow it up with a question i just
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did you know what was the question she didn't even answer no no so i don't know what she answered
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everything okay go on speak you've asked her have you been married i did which isn't really necessarily
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relevant in your opinion are you gonna let me speak you've asked her have you been married which is
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not necessarily relevant to what we're talking about because some of us are married so we're talking about
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marriage we're talking about marriage how is that you guys stop stop stop stop stop stop over talking
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my producer i'm just trying to get the point you're not even letting me speak my point is we were yes the
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general topic is about marriage but we were on a particular trajectory due within the discussion
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and then you brought up have you been married to this to derail that conversation because if you're
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asking if she's been married what is the relevance of that to what we're talking about in this very
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second so you you'd have to ask that then follow it up with a relevant question or then it's a dig
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no answer sorry go on and i say this respectfully women are meant to be quiet docile and submissive
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in almost every case when you see a woman is the opposite of that
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it's a for example for example what's your name in the white in the white top it's a put-off a man
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doesn't want a woman like that go ahead no it's just it's just an observation and to the earlier
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point about you know the question that you said earlier i was actually once driving my date home
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and she said to me i don't need a man i said are you sure she said yeah i said so get the
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fuck out the car and hitchhike turned out she got kidnapped and that's a great example of why women
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need men
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