JustPearlyThings - June 23, 2023


Pearl Drops This Truth Bomb On Modern Woman


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In this episode, we talk about feminism and gender roles in society. We discuss the differences between men and women and how they have changed over the last 500 years. We also discuss the difference between women and men when it comes to war and politics.

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00:00:00.000 Can I steer this just slightly?
00:00:03.500 No.
00:00:04.920 I'm doing it slightly.
00:00:09.020 So, you know, a lot of the things we're talking about is that, you know,
00:00:12.880 all of this is just to have, I guess, to weaken men and that, you know,
00:00:18.100 men are weak in all of this.
00:00:19.600 But going back to that,
00:00:21.320 do you not think that this is actually just to weaken people,
00:00:24.440 both men and women?
00:00:25.640 Yeah.
00:00:26.220 Because actually men and women, we both need each other as much.
00:00:30.000 You know, as much as a man needs a woman and vice versa. 0.97
00:00:33.360 So we're saying, you know,
00:00:34.840 actually this is all a systematic thing that's taken down men.
00:00:37.840 But actually if women were just as woke about this,
00:00:40.640 we would all just be as powerful.
00:00:42.520 Do you not believe that?
00:00:43.980 Women aren't weak today. 1.00
00:00:44.980 So I think when men win, they win for everyone.
00:00:47.880 When women win, they win for themselves. 1.00
00:00:50.480 Can you explain that a bit more?
00:00:51.840 So like when men had all the more power in society, 0.85
00:00:56.060 like they still gave women rights and privileges.
00:00:58.920 So, I mean, such as voting, they didn't,
00:01:02.280 men were the ones that built society, right?
00:01:04.300 And they gave us the right to vote.
00:01:05.740 But when women win, we're very selfish. 1.00
00:01:07.860 When we got the power to leave our husbands, we did.
00:01:10.840 And also who goes to war, men or women?
00:01:12.780 It's always men, but who starts the wars? 0.75
00:01:15.380 Actually women, no, no. 1.00
00:01:16.540 Over the last 500 years,
00:01:18.040 women have waged more wars than men when it comes to a percentage. 1.00
00:01:21.260 So like when women were in power, they wage war more, 1.00
00:01:24.080 which makes sense.
00:01:24.720 So Iraq, that was starting.
00:01:26.220 No, no, no.
00:01:26.780 I said more men have been in power in the last 500 years.
00:01:30.560 Absolutely.
00:01:31.120 But I'm saying if you look at it as a percentage basis.
00:01:34.180 So if you look at like there was 10 women in power, 1.00
00:01:37.040 it's a higher percentage that women have started wars. 1.00
00:01:40.280 Would you make sense?
00:01:40.820 We're more spiteful.
00:01:41.680 Come on.
00:01:42.080 Like imagine a group of guys living in a house versus a group of women. 1.00
00:01:45.480 Being labeled in like the whole group of women
00:01:47.440 because I don't seem, I don't know.
00:01:49.580 I don't think I'm not the same as you
00:01:51.080 and we're not the same as each other.
00:01:52.800 We have to make generalizations in order to have a conversation.
00:01:56.060 And I think there's like a female nature and a male.
00:01:58.140 That's where it gets a bit tricky though.
00:01:59.480 When we make generalizations.
00:02:01.300 I think we have to.
00:02:02.700 We have to.
00:02:03.620 We can't.
00:02:03.980 I try not to make generalizations about people.
00:02:05.980 Well, then you can't have a conversation about anything.
00:02:08.060 Because then it's your pre-judging, aren't you?
00:02:10.020 You're making like a pre-judgment.
00:02:11.560 And I like to give everybody the benefit of the doubt.
00:02:13.580 You're not the same as you and vice versa.
00:02:16.820 Do you think it's equal that men get along the same way women get along? 0.98
00:02:22.940 That's a very blanket term.
00:02:24.400 So you're going to need to dumb that down a little bit for me now.
00:02:26.780 How could I dumb it down more than that?
00:02:30.960 Do you think women get along the same way men get along?
00:02:34.780 So by getting along though, 0.50
00:02:36.560 I think that's what I'm asking you to dumb down
00:02:38.220 because that's quite a broad getting along.
00:02:40.480 What do you mean by getting along?
00:02:41.700 Do you mean just having a conversation?
00:02:44.080 Do you mean, you know, undergoing hobbies together?
00:02:46.240 What do you mean by that?
00:02:47.160 Not having disagreements.
00:02:49.320 Yeah.
00:02:49.580 So you think that women have disagreed? 0.90
00:02:52.920 I'm just trying to.
00:02:53.960 I think women disagree with each other more than men disagree with each other. 0.76
00:02:57.940 Okay.
00:02:58.720 Yeah. 0.65
00:02:58.940 I think women are more catty. 1.00
00:03:00.380 I think women are more spiteful. 1.00
00:03:01.860 I think women are more conniving in general. 1.00
00:03:03.920 Do you think that comes from us being a little bit more emotional?
00:03:07.900 Yeah.
00:03:08.540 Well, I think we're, we had to be more socially,
00:03:10.480 like men bully each other physically,
00:03:12.440 where I think women bully each other emotionally more. 1.00
00:03:15.520 So I think, I think we're just more like our weapon is emotions.
00:03:18.840 Where men's a weapon is violence. 0.98
00:03:20.520 And that's what makes,
00:03:21.220 that's what makes us different as men and women, isn't it?
00:03:23.520 But I also believe that within each person, we have a lot of balance, right?
00:03:27.780 So we all have masculine and feminine traits about us.
00:03:30.620 There's no one person that's just entirely masculine.
00:03:33.220 And there's no one woman or man that's entirely feminine.
00:03:36.400 Do you get what I mean?
00:03:37.180 But I believe that.
00:03:37.940 So it's having that balance.
00:03:38.840 But I believe men and women are born in different,
00:03:41.240 like I think, I don't think it's equal when we're born.
00:03:43.900 Like it's a blank slate.
00:03:45.680 Oh, absolutely.
00:03:46.340 In this society, we're not equal.
00:03:48.860 What do you mean?
00:03:50.060 In this society that we've been brought up in,
00:03:52.260 men and women are not equal. 1.00
00:03:53.260 Well, I'm talking about biology.
00:03:55.580 Even biology, we're not the same.
00:03:57.340 Yeah.
00:03:57.720 So like, I think men are better leaders in general.
00:04:01.480 Yes.
00:04:02.120 Because they're less emotional.
00:04:03.800 They are able to make clear decisions compared to women. 1.00
00:04:08.800 But sometimes you need that.
00:04:09.380 You've got to leave those beliefs in Morocco when you come to the West. 0.98
00:04:12.480 You know, you can't say those things.
00:04:13.620 I think sometimes you need a little,
00:04:15.400 that's where balance comes in though,
00:04:16.960 because you need to have a little bit.
00:04:18.920 No, no, I know.
00:04:19.540 I'm being sarcastic.
00:04:21.540 I do feel like good things like that though.
00:04:23.780 As much as we're saying like,
00:04:25.000 okay, so like men are better leaders because they're not emotional.
00:04:27.740 Well, actually,
00:04:28.220 I think you do need to have a little bit of emotion there for it to be a leader
00:04:32.100 because you need to be able to empathize with the people that you are leading.
00:04:35.940 Do you not agree with that?
00:04:37.120 I do not want a commander in chief general.
00:04:41.900 I'm not saying be soft and like cry all the time.
00:04:45.360 I'm saying have balance.
00:04:46.480 That's the key here.
00:04:47.760 When you have imbalance,
00:04:49.140 that's when you have problems.
00:04:50.520 So there are plenty of male leaders who have balance
00:04:52.380 and it's only a tiny bit of empathy,
00:04:54.440 which is needed in order to be a good leader.
00:04:56.540 But then how's that tiny bit of empathy?
00:04:58.100 But this is actually an example of like,
00:05:01.760 you're telling men to emote like women.
00:05:03.940 Oh, no, not emote.
00:05:04.640 I said balance.
00:05:05.540 I'm not saying.
00:05:06.200 No, but balance is like saying be more emotional,
00:05:08.340 be more feminine.
00:05:09.400 It's really,
00:05:10.000 it's in our language.
00:05:11.300 Because here's that thing, right?
00:05:12.620 We say about men,
00:05:13.560 that's a horrible thing that people say is that men shouldn't cry.
00:05:16.700 That's a horrible thing.
00:05:18.200 But actually,
00:05:18.920 crying is a natural emotion.
00:05:20.400 But I feel like now it's starting to get normalized.
00:05:22.540 Like I see a lot of things on social media about men should,
00:05:26.120 should,
00:05:26.820 if they want to express themselves and if they want to cry,
00:05:29.440 they should be allowed to.
00:05:30.420 But this is,
00:05:31.300 it's the same conversation though.
00:05:32.980 It's like telling men to emote like women. 0.74
00:05:35.060 Women cry. 1.00
00:05:36.000 So you're saying men be more like a woman. 0.84
00:05:38.020 But it's natural to cry.
00:05:39.240 So don't deny something that's natural.
00:05:40.840 To women. 0.64
00:05:41.700 But why,
00:05:42.120 why is that assumed to be like good?
00:05:44.620 What do you mean?
00:05:45.320 If you're,
00:05:45.700 if you're releasing an emotion that is keeping,
00:05:48.760 but that's it.
00:05:49.560 If it's troubling him
00:05:51.540 and his natural emotion is that they're,
00:05:54.420 they're literally tears are welling up.
00:05:56.140 I'm not going to be like, 0.99
00:05:57.040 suck those tears up boy. 0.99
00:05:58.360 No, 1.00
00:05:58.600 no,
00:05:58.700 you got to be a real man and go home and cry in secret.
00:06:01.660 And let nobody know.
00:06:02.500 You're still crying though,
00:06:03.480 right?
00:06:04.120 And it's,
00:06:04.620 yeah,
00:06:04.740 there's nothing,
00:06:05.380 there's nothing wrong with it,
00:06:06.220 but I think,
00:06:06.820 but she's nothing wrong with it.
00:06:08.300 There's nothing wrong with it.
00:06:09.240 But this,
00:06:10.280 this,
00:06:10.940 um,
00:06:11.660 there's a media campaign for a reason.
00:06:13.580 This media campaign to push dudes to be more in tune with their emotions.
00:06:18.740 Listen,
00:06:19.180 anybody who lives based upon their emotions is going to be a guaranteed failure.
00:06:24.380 And that's why I said balance.
00:06:25.880 That is the key thing.
00:06:26.820 I think we're all like not really grasping here is that I'm saying balance because if you're too emotional,
00:06:31.740 you're going to go one way.
00:06:32.820 And if you don't have any emotion at all,
00:06:34.920 you're going to go the other way.
00:06:35.940 So it's just having it.
00:06:37.260 So I agree with you on that.
00:06:38.440 But at the same time,
00:06:39.420 if you want to be a leader,
00:06:40.320 if you're too emotional or,
00:06:42.940 you know,
00:06:43.260 you claim to have these balances,
00:06:44.580 but if you show an emotional side,
00:06:46.980 that side can be manipulated against you.
00:06:49.400 But that's,
00:06:50.160 it can balance.
00:06:51.520 Emotional,
00:06:51.880 emotional men,
00:06:52.940 emotional men become school shooters. 1.00
00:06:55.020 You don't have to show that's what happens when men are mentally ill though. 0.97
00:06:59.820 That's someone that's mentally ill having emotion and displaying a little bit of emotion. 1.00
00:07:04.020 I think it's kind of different to someone having like mental illness.
00:07:06.260 Who are women to tell men how to emote? 1.00
00:07:08.500 Like this is the whole,
00:07:09.340 but you are because you're,
00:07:10.260 you are because you're saying like emote like a woman.
00:07:12.900 No,
00:07:13.400 I didn't,
00:07:13.980 never.
00:07:14.980 You didn't say those words.
00:07:16.440 You said have a balance.
00:07:17.800 You said have a balance.
00:07:18.600 Okay.
00:07:19.060 But you,
00:07:20.220 but you as a woman,
00:07:21.600 so you're,
00:07:21.880 you're saying that from your point of view.
00:07:23.640 So you're saying this is the perfect,
00:07:25.120 wait,
00:07:25.400 wait,
00:07:25.600 you're saying this is the perfect amount of emotional balance,
00:07:28.100 whatever it is.
00:07:28.860 So emote like me,
00:07:30.600 but men are not women.
00:07:32.080 I don't want anyone to emote like me first of all,
00:07:35.100 because,
00:07:35.440 oh my God,
00:07:35.920 we'd be in a situation.
00:07:38.520 No.
00:07:39.480 What I'm saying is,
00:07:40.640 it's just,
00:07:41.080 it's having that bit of balance because imagine how hard it must be for men,
00:07:44.720 because there's a lot of pressure on men in this society as well,
00:07:47.720 that they have to constantly always be the strongest person.
00:07:50.840 But let's be real as human beings,
00:07:52.760 not everybody is strong 100% of the time.
00:07:54.500 You can't lean and be emotional.
00:07:56.420 You can't.
00:07:57.300 I have a question for you.
00:07:58.120 As our friend said.
00:07:59.920 I have a question for you.
00:08:00.940 So you keep talking about this balance.
00:08:03.200 So can you tell us how to identify where the line for the balance is?
00:08:07.700 I don't know where the line is,
00:08:08.820 because I feel like that's very subjective for every person.
00:08:11.600 Exactly.
00:08:12.340 Everyone's going to have.
00:08:13.160 No,
00:08:13.340 but that's the point because.
00:08:14.200 Exactly.
00:08:14.740 So everyone's.
00:08:15.700 Because if you keep saying balance,
00:08:17.140 balance for everyone is going to be different.
00:08:19.320 Right.
00:08:19.520 Even when a man tries to be more emotional,
00:08:22.760 he's going to be in front of a certain woman.
00:08:25.520 Right.
00:08:25.800 And he doesn't necessarily know if he becomes this much emotional,
00:08:30.140 if he's going to put that woman off.
00:08:32.060 That's his problem.
00:08:33.780 Exactly.
00:08:34.860 Subjective.
00:08:35.560 So that is why men are asked to be more stoic,
00:08:38.640 because then you tend to remove all those problems.
00:08:41.700 And how much pressure does that put on a man if he has to constantly be there?
00:08:45.560 It doesn't matter.
00:08:45.580 Men were built for pressure.
00:08:46.660 That's the point.
00:08:47.240 Yeah.
00:08:47.380 But these days people are trying to tell men that we shouldn't do what we're built for.
00:08:52.940 Our ancestors had to run miles to look for food.
00:08:56.140 Our ancestors had to run miles to look for water.
00:08:58.740 They had to fight wild animals.
00:09:00.460 But today we're telling men you need to cry more.
00:09:03.300 I'm not telling no man to cry more.
00:09:05.620 I'm saying that.
00:09:06.240 You just did.
00:09:06.920 No,
00:09:07.220 I didn't.
00:09:07.700 I said to have balance.
00:09:08.780 And I've also said that it is okay if you need to do so.
00:09:11.920 You said be more emotional.
00:09:12.280 But let me ask you this.
00:09:13.300 I said to have balance,
00:09:14.940 not to be more emotional.
00:09:16.440 So,
00:09:16.760 so,
00:09:17.000 okay,
00:09:17.380 you said have a more balance.
00:09:19.440 According to you.
00:09:20.400 So,
00:09:20.880 so balance according to you.