JustPearlyThings - October 12, 2023


Pearl EDUCATES The Panel

Topics
pain and reality
Hosted by
Hannah Pearl Davis
Mentioned
Michael
Pearl Educates Toxic Feminist What Every Man Want From Their Woman

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10 minutes

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Misogyny

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In this episode, we discuss the question "Do Women Owe Society Children?" Do women owe society children? Do we owe anything to society? Is it possible for women to have children if they don't have a partner?

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00:00:00.000 Do women owe society children? 1.00
00:00:04.540 So there is a study by Morgan Stanley that says 45% of women are expected to be single and childless by 2030 per a recent projection.
00:00:18.700 In 2019, Morgan Stanley published an article outlining women's impact on the American economy. 0.95
00:00:24.780 The number of prime working-age women in the U.S. has been increasing steadily, and most of them are single and completely focused on their career.
00:00:34.060 These women will continue to have a greater representation in the workforce, helping to boost wages. 0.99
00:00:43.900 But these cultural trends are going to have a tremendous impact on the future of American society.
00:00:50.420 Morgan Stanley estimates that 45% of women in their prime working years between the ages of 25 to 44 will be single and childless by the time 2030 arrives.
00:01:02.640 So, do women owe society children? 1.00
00:01:06.860 I feel like we owe it to ourselves, to everyone.
00:01:15.780 I feel like it's nature.
00:01:18.300 It's what?
00:01:20.160 It's history.
00:01:21.560 It's everything around us.
00:01:23.360 It's life.
00:01:26.300 But to society, no.
00:01:29.360 Okay.
00:01:29.880 So we owe it to ourselves, but not...
00:01:31.460 We owe it to ourselves, and obviously, if we are with a partner that we love and we see a future with, and who's going to stand by us, then, yeah, I would have a child with that person.
00:01:49.420 I would definitely most want to.
00:01:53.200 Do women owe society anything? 1.00
00:01:54.760 Um, that's a hard one.
00:02:03.020 Nope.
00:02:04.460 No?
00:02:05.560 Say that again. 0.71
00:02:06.500 It's not...
00:02:08.380 I feel like it can be double-sided, though.
00:02:11.640 That's the thing.
00:02:13.020 It's like, there's...
00:02:14.180 We can say, do women owe... 1.00
00:02:18.360 But it depends on the context.
00:02:21.640 What could we possibly owe them?
00:02:24.100 Sorry, can I interject?
00:02:25.640 Um, sure, go ahead.
00:02:26.660 All right.
00:02:27.380 Sorry, I'm not trying to be rude, but when you're saying the word owe, what do you mean by that?
00:02:33.500 Like, because we don't owe this economy anything.
00:02:37.120 Do you owe anybody anything?
00:02:38.440 No.
00:02:38.960 Nothing.
00:02:40.120 What about being, like, a tax-paying, contributing member of society?
00:02:43.760 No, that's legislation.
00:02:45.360 That's legislation.
00:02:45.920 Well, Michael, it goes back to the question.
00:02:47.880 Do you owe anything to society?
00:02:49.560 Sorry to cut you.
00:02:50.200 Okay.
00:02:50.640 You were talking about USA.
00:02:52.060 We're in UK.
00:02:52.700 All your statistics are from USA.
00:02:55.800 Well, the other stat I'm going to bring up is 1.56 is the birth rate per woman.
00:03:01.160 And it's similar in the UK, too.
00:03:03.040 It's similar, but what you were referencing to you was from USA.
00:03:06.280 Okay, and what's your point?
00:03:07.720 Well, my point is to the fact of we don't owe anything to anyone.
00:03:11.800 Okay.
00:03:12.680 Any formal being, any person that you see, we don't owe anyone to nothing.
00:03:17.600 Okay.
00:03:18.260 Nobody anything.
00:03:19.400 We do.
00:03:19.960 No one anything.
00:03:20.440 Okay.
00:03:20.920 Okay.
00:03:21.420 So, what do you think?
00:03:23.400 The word owe is getting my back up.
00:03:26.420 But I feel like that's because if you owe something, that must mean I'm in debt somewhere.
00:03:30.860 You're in debt for someone.
00:03:31.320 That's it.
00:03:31.620 I'm not in debt nowhere.
00:03:32.840 You didn't choose to be born.
00:03:34.780 First of all, and second of all, I strongly agree that there's a reason why us as women
00:03:41.580 can have children and we're supposed to birth kids.
00:03:44.980 But when I decide to do that, how I decide to do that, with who I decide to do that with,
00:03:49.840 I know a lot of people that don't even want to have kids, period.
00:03:51.820 So, but for me, 100%, I feel like we're here to, you know, we do need to reproduce, but
00:03:58.740 to owe, definitely not.
00:04:00.080 So, how do we have any structure in society if nobody owes anybody anything?
00:04:05.960 Because no society never gave me anything.
00:04:09.060 It's my mom and dad that gave me life and a higher being if you believe in it.
00:04:13.120 Does society give you protection?
00:04:14.940 No.
00:04:15.740 Nothing?
00:04:16.280 Nothing.
00:04:16.600 You can't call the police?
00:04:18.120 The only thing that society gives me for my personal opinion, I'm not talking for everyone,
00:04:23.100 I'm talking for myself.
00:04:24.440 Okay.
00:04:24.880 The only thing society gives me is debt.
00:04:28.120 Does society give you, how do you, how does society give you debt?
00:04:31.760 Because where I come from, how I grew up, when it comes to protection, it's not the society
00:04:37.940 or the government that protects me.
00:04:39.820 When it comes to feeding me and giving me opportunities, it wasn't the government that given me.
00:04:47.000 Opportunities or anything to make me prosper in life.
00:04:49.680 So, I don't owe anything to society.
00:04:54.300 Okay.
00:04:54.780 If you talk about my lineage and my lineage and where my family comes from, that's something different.
00:05:00.260 Okay.
00:05:00.980 But me as a human being to talk about society, society ain't giving me nothing.
00:05:04.900 If you were born at any other period of history, you might see things a little differently.
00:05:09.700 But I'm not.
00:05:10.380 So, I only can talk for my truth.
00:05:12.480 Do you understand?
00:05:13.060 So, I'm not talking for humanity.
00:05:15.260 I'm talking for me, Deca Artists.
00:05:16.620 What do you mean, my truth?
00:05:18.700 My truth.
00:05:19.440 Like I said.
00:05:20.180 Like, isn't there just the truth?
00:05:21.280 Let me elaborate on this one.
00:05:23.520 Definitely not.
00:05:24.360 There's definitely not just the truth.
00:05:26.260 No.
00:05:26.400 Because how your idea of even going back to the word O is going to be completely different to either me or a few other people sitting here today is going to have a complete different idea just because of our heritage and because of where we come from.
00:05:44.180 And I feel like you just have to speak for yourself, that's it.
00:05:47.180 That's it.
00:05:47.480 And we should leave that there.
00:05:49.320 Go ahead.
00:05:49.780 I would just like to express solemn gratitude to Western society for allowing all of us in this room of all different backgrounds, skin colors, ethnicities, religions, to sit in a room with a degree of civility without experiencing any sort of a mob attack on any of us or any of us being bought and sold.
00:06:05.280 I think it's a brilliant thing that Western society gave us.
00:06:08.000 And I think we do owe a debt to that, at least, at the very least, a debt of respect and a debt of gratitude.
00:06:12.500 So, I just want to express that.
00:06:13.640 Sorry, sir.
00:06:14.060 What do you mean by bought and sold?
00:06:15.860 I mean that based on my ethnic background and yours, depending on when we were born and where we were born, society would have treated us differently, myself included.
00:06:24.560 Does that make sense?
00:06:25.540 And so we owe tremendous gratitude that we have a Western society.
00:06:29.260 We can have a civil conversation, discourse, and pursuit of truth.
00:06:32.660 And I'm going to be honest with you.
00:06:35.340 It doesn't make sense to me.
00:06:36.920 And I'm not going to talk for you.
00:06:37.960 You're talking for me.
00:06:39.340 I'm not talking for you, sir.
00:06:40.400 How is he talking for you?
00:06:41.460 Because you said to me, it makes sense to me.
00:06:43.440 How can you tell me it makes sense?
00:06:45.300 He said, it makes sense.
00:06:47.540 Like, I live my life as a black human being, a young black man in this land.
00:06:52.720 The discriminations that have come upon me is different to you.
00:06:57.240 I'm not going to tell you to digest what I've been through to live your life in any different aspect, to get what I mean.
00:07:05.600 I think you're speaking from pain.
00:07:07.540 No, definitely not from pain.
00:07:08.940 It's from reality.
00:07:09.880 But it's my reality.
00:07:10.780 It feels that way.
00:07:11.500 It's my reality, darling.
00:07:12.920 But yeah, of course, it's your reality.
00:07:14.780 Yeah, this is your reality.
00:07:15.500 Yeah, that's it.
00:07:15.940 It's your pain.
00:07:17.060 That's it.
00:07:17.780 Like, I'm not globalizing anything.
00:07:19.780 Nobody's disputing what you've been through and your reality.
00:07:22.260 But it does sound like it comes from pain.
00:07:23.960 Because what I'm hearing is that society has conditioned us to be selfish.
00:07:28.020 What do you mean you don't owe the world nothing?
00:07:29.600 I don't.
00:07:30.000 Okay, the world owe.
00:07:30.920 You don't like the world.
00:07:31.760 All right.
00:07:32.140 And next, we'll use another word.
00:07:33.880 But you still, as human beings, we have a biological necessity to create with each other.
00:07:39.660 It's just the point.
00:07:40.620 We need to continue this earth.
00:07:41.980 We need to evolve.
00:07:42.800 We need to grow.
00:07:43.400 We need to develop.
00:07:44.400 Our offspring needs to teach us new things.
00:07:46.320 Like, that's a very important thing.
00:07:48.140 Like, this world is very tough.
00:07:50.100 It's hard.
00:07:50.800 It's so hard for women and for men.
00:07:52.820 Nobody struggles bigger than nobody else.
00:07:54.880 I've probably been through 10 times more than people in this room.
00:07:57.840 But I have a very positive perspective of life.
00:08:00.780 I do owe my society something.
00:08:02.500 If I'm in a room full of you guys, I do owe you something.
00:08:05.140 I do owe you good energy.
00:08:06.580 I do owe you good energy.
00:08:07.500 But that comes with it.
00:08:08.860 Through women comes love.
00:08:09.460 But that was the question, darling.
00:08:10.540 Through women comes love.
00:08:11.980 And that was the question.
00:08:12.240 Through reproduction.
00:08:13.620 And we do have, it's a biological necessity for us to produce.
00:08:17.920 We're here.
00:08:18.640 We're creators.
00:08:19.520 We're powerful.
00:08:20.180 We're women. 1.00
00:08:20.780 That is one of our biggest things to do.
00:08:23.000 My mom's life path on this earth was to be a mother. 0.95
00:08:25.720 And she's been through the worst of losing three kids before she had my brother.
00:08:29.540 Then she had my brother.
00:08:30.240 18 years later, then she lost two more before me.
00:08:32.800 Then she had me.
00:08:33.480 She had to pray at a great stone just to be a mother.
00:08:36.220 And I was born.
00:08:37.220 So I think it's very important that we as women should actually take on that role.
00:08:40.920 That's what we're here to do.
00:08:42.420 This is us.
00:08:43.260 This is our power to love and to grow and to transform life.
00:08:47.720 It's like, stop with this selfish thing.
00:08:49.740 I don't know what the world has done to everybody.
00:08:52.060 It's all about me.
00:08:52.840 It's all about me.
00:08:53.820 See where life takes us with that.
00:08:55.380 Why do you think that's such a common mentality that we don't owe society anything?
00:08:59.760 Because we're being conditioned to be selfish.
00:09:02.140 We get so far apart from each other, so torn apart from each other.
00:09:06.040 We don't trust.
00:09:07.320 We're not easy to give our hand.
00:09:08.940 We're not that type of people anymore.
00:09:10.920 We're not trying to connect.
00:09:12.420 If we actually connected, we realize that creation is the biggest part of life.
00:09:17.080 We're in a room of creatives.
00:09:18.900 We can't deny our human necessity and need just because we're selfish, because we care about our career.
00:09:24.080 All these things are not going to be there when we're dead.
00:09:26.480 All it cares about is our soul and what we've left.
00:09:28.380 I think a lot of it is obviously as well to do with our environments.
00:09:32.180 For example, myself, growing up in Brazil and then moving to the UK, I live in a predominantly Jewish area.
00:09:40.860 I noticed that the majority of the Jewish families have many, many kids, probably on average four or five.
00:09:47.800 I don't know.
00:09:48.120 I'd just count.
00:09:48.620 But I think obviously it's a hard question to, you know, because the question is directed at women, should they reproduce?
00:09:55.620 I think definitely because I think we do owe something to society based on what's happened in the past.
00:10:01.280 I think a lot of things are not our fault, but we can be part of that change.
00:10:05.400 I think it's obviously hard for me as a man to be the judge of that.
00:10:09.700 But I'd like to empower and support women where I can.