JustPearlyThings - Pearl Gave Her A Reality Check

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00:00:01.200 Workouts are crazy.

00:00:02.520 What does a plus-size model sacrifice?

00:00:04.760 Why do you need people to be unhappy to earn their money?

00:00:08.020 No, I would say the general premise is that in work, when you work, you sacrifice something.

00:00:13.200 When you strive for something, you have to sacrifice something.

00:00:15.500 What does a plus-size model sacrifice?

00:00:17.080 Well, I'm in a room with three PTs and no one's saying that the plus-size model is sacrificing her health,

00:00:21.860 despite the fact that we've spent the last hour talking about health.

00:00:24.940 So you think that should be her job then?

00:00:27.480 You sacrifice your health for money?

00:00:29.240 I'm not going to let you put a spin on that.

00:00:30.580 I didn't say that that should be a job.

00:00:32.360 You said they're sacrificing their health.

00:00:33.540 No, but they are sacrificing their health, aren't they?

00:00:35.480 We just discussed that.

00:00:36.660 If a person is plus-size and they're maintaining their plus-size brand, their identity,

00:00:42.380 if they're sacrificing their health, the convenient fat becomes a hustle.

00:00:46.220 That is the direct sacrifice.

00:00:47.260 And I guess it's not the best way to put it, a sacrifice,

00:00:50.760 but it's more that in order to get money and jobs, you should have to do something hard.

00:00:56.540 And getting fat is easy.

00:00:58.100 Do plus-size models sacrifice anything? 0.87

00:01:00.460 So I would respond to that comment by saying that person sounds more like they have a problem with capitalism than anything else.

00:01:05.340 Because why are you doing a job you don't enjoy?

00:01:07.380 I really love my job.

00:01:08.600 I make content all day.

00:01:09.860 I do brand deals.

00:01:11.540 I stream on Twitch.

00:01:12.580 I have a great time with my life and I enjoy my modeling.

00:01:15.760 None of that feels like a sacrifice to me.

00:01:17.760 None of my jobs have ever felt.

00:01:18.840 Before that, I worked in sales.

00:01:20.140 Again, I really enjoyed that.

00:01:21.160 I never felt like my life was a chore.

00:01:24.940 And it sounds more like you have an issue with that.

00:01:26.860 And no, I don't think anyone could be a plus-size model.

00:01:28.760 I need you.

00:01:29.240 You need a specific look regardless.

00:01:31.080 And including being plus-size, to be a plus-size model, you still need to have an hourglass shape.

00:01:36.300 I disagree.

00:01:37.080 You can't be an apple.

00:01:38.400 It doesn't work.

00:01:39.180 In the past.

00:01:39.440 In the past.

00:01:40.280 In the past.

00:01:41.140 Wait, hold on.

00:01:42.080 He started.

00:01:42.600 I'll let you go.

00:01:43.280 I would say every job has a form of sacrifice.

00:01:46.060 So that person that's in the super chat in works nine to five.

00:01:49.540 Doesn't want to go.

00:01:50.280 Has to go.

00:01:51.140 Pearl being a content creator.

00:01:52.540 Puts in hours.

00:01:53.200 Probably doesn't have to.

00:01:53.780 Can socialize as much.

00:01:55.280 Misses out on that.

00:01:56.380 Doesn't see friends.

00:01:57.580 A model.

00:01:58.560 An actual model.

00:02:00.100 Probably has to starve herself sometimes. 1.00

00:02:02.760 Has to work rigorous hours.

00:02:04.900 Travel a lot.

00:02:05.900 There's sacrifice.

00:02:07.420 Workouts they do are insane.

00:02:08.700 Workouts are crazy.

00:02:09.720 Yeah.

00:02:09.900 What does a plus-size model sacrifice?

00:02:12.300 Why do they need?

00:02:13.120 Why do you need people to be unhappy to earn their money?

00:02:15.480 No, I would say the general plenarist is that in work, when you work, you sacrifice something.

00:02:20.660 When you strive for something, you have to sacrifice something.

00:02:22.980 What does a plus-size model sacrifice?

00:02:24.400 Well, I'm in a room with three PTs and no one's saying that the plus-size model is sacrificing her health,

00:02:29.300 despite the fact that we've spent the last hour talking about health.

00:02:32.480 So she's sacrificing her health. 1.00

00:02:33.500 So you think that should be a job then?

00:02:34.960 No, I'm not going to let you put a spin on that.

00:02:38.040 I didn't say that that should be a job.

00:02:39.840 You said they're sacrificing their health.

00:02:41.020 No, but they are sacrificing their health, aren't they?

00:02:42.820 We just discussed that.

00:02:44.140 If a person is plus-size and they're maintaining their plus-size brand, their identity, they're sacrificing their health because being fat becomes a hustle.

00:02:53.720 That is the direct sacrifice.

00:02:54.980 And I guess it's not the best way to put it, a sacrifice, but it's more that in order to get money and jobs, you should have to do something hard.

00:03:04.020 And getting fat is easy.

00:03:07.000 That's the easy way out.

00:03:08.900 And now we're paying people to do the easy thing.

00:03:11.240 It's like if I go to an NBA game and I see below average NBA or basketball players, it's kind of like, why are they there?

00:03:20.920 But yet, yet we have, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:03:24.720 But now we have, we go to modelling shows and we have below average bodies being modelled when before that was like the epitome of perfection.

00:03:35.280 Well, it's just not a skilled, a particularly skilled profession.

00:03:38.400 It's just that knowledge.

00:03:39.240 It's a model, it's a model, it's a model, it's a model, it's a model of skilled profession.

00:03:41.980 I just said that it isn't.

00:03:43.240 A model.

00:03:44.100 I don't think it's particularly skilled.

00:03:45.880 Like if we're competing.

00:03:46.620 You have to be a top 1% of attractiveness. 0.54

00:03:49.060 You miss any point is just for that company to me.

00:03:50.980 You just say being attractive is a skill.

00:03:52.280 As well as maintaining a workout, a good diet.

00:03:54.100 Did none of you watch America's next top model?

00:03:57.980 Nobody?

00:03:58.640 Byron Banks.

00:03:59.320 Nobody?

00:03:59.860 Coach you on how to be the best model.

00:04:01.960 I don't want to shave that.

00:04:02.820 Company just looking for market to make more money, that's all it is.

00:04:06.360 Equality.

00:04:06.960 That's the company just looking for market to make more money.

00:04:09.720 But you agreed, you said that what Pearl said, getting fat is easy.

00:04:14.980 Agree.

00:04:15.240 yeah so what there's no there's no sacrifice but your health is just

00:04:19.000 sacrifice I don't understand how we're not agreeing on that point despite that's

00:04:25.240 negative so that is so your health is a sacrifice yeah you're you're you're

00:04:29.340 willingly shortening your life for money so it's that but you know that's a

00:04:34.920 sacrifice can I just let you know I've taught children swimming I was a dance

00:04:49.920 teacher like everything I've done even me doing my entertainment work is active

00:04:55.620 full of activists and that's how I live my life to be active because I know when

00:05:01.320 I go to a gym and when I kind of push myself I fall apart and I go backwards

00:05:06.660 because then I'm in pain for months and I'm in bed that's what starts happening

00:05:11.200 right but like the whole point is do plus-size models and maybe not

00:05:14.720 sacrifice is it hard to become a plus-size model and before wait wait wait

00:05:20.080 wait and before like I don't know if you've ever seen like the what I eat in

00:05:23.860 a day from a Victoria's Secret model before they were plus-size like their 0.86

00:05:27.220 workouts it's hard it was it required a lot of sacrifice but it required a lot 0.95

00:05:33.420 of sacrifice but what those damn what those Victoria's Secret girls have done 1.00

00:05:39.100 to a lot of women is damage them as well because they tried being super fit like 1.00

00:05:43.260 that although they had no potential some of them actually started taking drugs to

00:05:47.860 look it's less than three percent of the population is underweight or it's like five 0.66

00:05:53.440 percent no but I think a lot of people's obesity is also related to taking a lot of this rubbish

00:05:59.020 weight loss tablets and being sold be skinny be this be that and they have it and they get

00:06:04.940 obese because a lot of the obesity is from remember where how the 90s was how the noughties 0.98

00:06:10.220 was you need to actually think about how the decades I think that's a victim mentality

00:06:14.260 like I just think I don't even think it's a big because it's fact that a lot of rubbish was put

00:06:18.960 in food a lot of rubbish was put in food but at the end of the day people are fat because of their

00:06:23.480 choices that's it point blank period it's not because of the food it's not because of the water

00:06:28.100 because there's ways around all of this and with with the internet with the internet there's no reason

00:06:33.580 you can educate yourself what you're saying pal though like your initial point I just think it's such a

00:06:39.380 non-issue because one there just aren't that many plus size models there are a few but like in general

00:06:46.300 I find people a lot of the comments I get are like oh my gosh thank you so much for modeling

00:06:50.640 like particularly when I modeled a fitness wear for a bit I did a plus size fitness weight um range for

00:06:56.340 a well-known brand and people were like oh this is great because I actually know what it's going to

00:06:59.520 look like on me now as a fat person who wants to go to the gym which is what everyone wants is these

00:07:03.460 five people to go to the gym what was the most well-known fashion show fenty no is it fenty

00:07:10.380 five ten years ago what was it victory and what happened they started putting plus size models on

00:07:19.560 the runway and everyone hated it correct so we're seeing some of the biggest fashion brands incorporate

00:07:26.660 this I just don't think you could say it's a non-issue when I see them on the cover of

00:07:35.620 magazines all the time I see them in store they even make mannequins that are plus size

00:07:39.920 well that's it that's the point is it why why is there a market for plus size now why do you guys

00:07:47.800 think there's a market for plus size now okay what's the motive behind it market for plus size

00:07:52.760 what exactly models or plus size clothing or like when you go on online shopping and you see

00:07:58.840 a bigger person modeling the clothing what why is that because fat people have to wear clothes no it's

00:08:03.700 because when you think it's no when you when you basically buy the clothes the fitting is wrong

00:08:09.700 and you know a big person didn't make it because the car is usually funny yeah and it's not like that

00:08:14.860 with with normal clothes so her point so okay because fat people have to wear clothes but that's 1.00

00:08:19.560 that's the body positivity movement because you're now encouraging people to be at that weight because

00:08:24.620 you can buy clothes and and look like this whereas if I see a fat model uh you know advertising clothes 0.98

00:08:32.560 I'm more inclined not to buy it I actually click off don't fat people deserve to know what like if

00:08:37.200 they're considering buying I don't know a top address a lingerie set a pair of shorts whatever don't they

00:08:41.940 deserve to know what they may look like I'm sure it's all well and good it's great it's great for

00:08:46.840 them but it's unhealthy for them it's also I see what they might look like in this point I remember

00:08:52.020 ten years ago a woman used to you sort of want a tree and to look good in their wedding dress 0.87

00:08:56.760 is there plus size wedding dress no I don't know um I want to say I want to add something to the

00:09:02.680 conversation in terms of why there are more plus size models plus size campaigns and clothing I think

00:09:08.700 it's if you look at it from the business angle corporations are only going to go where the money

00:09:13.340 is right exactly so if they can see the trends and see that people are getting fatter so obviously

00:09:17.680 they're going to be more fat people to sell to so that also incentivizes them to create and to support

00:09:25.540 and to fund this fat uh or this positivity they don't care about the health it's only for the money

00:09:30.640 then it creates even more fat people that's the point so that's why it's actually dangerous

00:09:34.440 it's not because you guys are looking at it from a personal angle of oh it makes me feel better

00:09:38.960 but on the larger society for money there are nefarious acts being done behind the scenes to

00:09:44.280 make sure that these things continue and can I say something can I say something would you think it's

00:09:48.160 more positive for for a company to get a plus size model or a company to encourage you to lose weight

00:09:54.900 it's not that it's hold on we're talking about corporate social responsibility now and it's not like

00:09:59.040 it's not a company's responsibility per se to encourage fat people to lose weight

00:10:04.020 their priority is to make profit by selling their product why is it a company's responsibility to

00:10:08.980 tell you not to litter or why is it a company's responsibility to tell you should uh accept pride

00:10:13.780 firstly why do they do that okay can I don't think they should like I don't think so you've got let's

00:10:18.500 say lloyd's bank right pride month comes around and all these companies who actually have nothing to

00:10:23.140 do with sexuality lloyd's bank is just an example that I have they throw up a different logo with

00:10:27.920 the pride flag incorporated that is um like a lot of people call it virtual signal you realize

00:10:32.660 just a lot of people called you a bigot now because just for more clients shouldn't do that

00:10:37.360 no I didn't say that they shouldn't do that I'm saying if that no no no no no listen very carefully

00:10:43.260 because I don't think what I'm saying is actually that complex so a company that has nothing to do

00:10:48.020 with like let's say health and fitness um let's say I don't know like a oral b right they make

00:10:54.280 toothbrushes should they is it their responsibility to encourage people to lose weight and eat healthy

00:10:59.600 no they should just sell toothbrushes and toothpaste right then so why are we having this conversation

00:11:04.260 because you just answered your own question what was my question if you don't remember it why should

00:11:09.040 I answer no so it was it was is it if they're going to do it and and hire fat models to advertise

00:11:13.960 the clothing and and it's going to be on magazines everywhere and it's going to be pushed in the media

00:11:18.700 that it's okay to be fat then is it better to do that or is it better for them to encourage people

00:11:24.040 to lose weight they're already they're already doing one yeah should they encourage the yellow 1.00

00:11:29.160 the actual healthier out the companies that you're talking about and not only companies who actually

00:11:33.440 have business marketing to fat people like clothing companies we're talking like they might be

00:11:37.740 advertising train tickets and they'll have a plus size couple and people in one school of thought

00:11:42.340 would say that's terrible you're encouraging people to be fat and buy train tickets it's not the train

00:11:47.640 tickets company to encourage people to lose weight we've all just said the onus is on the individual

00:11:52.800 if you want to talk about corporate social corporate social responsibility we have to look at the

00:11:57.300 companies who actually profit from people being fat what about what about what about marketing to kids

00:12:02.200 yeah because they don't get any good good message to kids so I would say it's okay to be fat I would

00:12:06.920 say that the weight loss industry are the people who profit most from people being fat because they like

00:12:11.880 slimming world for example it's designed so that you keep going back into it and back into it and back into it

00:12:17.040 that's why they give you these point systems and they do these things that keep you trapped

00:12:19.980 because they want you to remain losing weight forever they don't actually want you to get

00:12:23.080 fitter I'd rather a society industry is worse I'd rather a society that sells weight loss pills

00:12:27.600 than a society that tells you hey it's okay get fat and die early that is I'm not gonna that is the

00:12:32.860 most silliest thing you've said what you should prefer is a world full of greens fresh things fresh

00:12:39.260 vegetables organic stuff yeah that's how you know you've been watching too many magazines

00:12:42.700 and too many internet things but the hills are never good pills are just made up in a

00:12:49.880 because his point is at least you're going towards the ideal and instead of saying you're okay as is

00:12:58.860 not saying that the pills are good but he's saying he would rather live in a world where we're at

00:13:03.100 least trying to be thin you just acknowledged how people go back to being fat you acknowledge that

00:13:08.960 you know the fashion true yeah the fashion industry doesn't actually care about plus size

00:13:13.880 because they don't when when you order plus size clothes it's poorer quality and the cuts are just

00:13:19.980 basic so the brands are just doing what they're doing and the biggest thing for me is why are they

00:13:25.420 still trying to give big people like trans because they make more money no they don't make money 1.00

00:13:30.900 because they're just selling they're not actually promoting plus size they're just making this

00:13:33.940 actually popular now they make more money no they're just making a quick buck because they

00:13:37.820 don't actually care it's not effort effort it's not even it's not even brands caring about

00:13:45.900 the whole point isn't should they push it it's that they do and right now they do i don't think they

00:13:53.060 do for men i don't think you're right it's mostly to pander to women yeah i agree body positivity is not

00:13:59.680 a male movement it's absolutely a female movement i agree but there are plus size male models there

00:14:06.060 are like on online shopping sites there's plus size male models but 100 is targeted to more towards

00:14:10.540 women because men idolize people in good shape fitness trainers uh people with good physiques online

00:14:17.100 because they want to go the opposite route and get a good body to attract a high quality woman 1.00

00:14:22.740 well isn't it because the market spend sits with women women are like the consumers 1.00

00:14:28.340 when it comes to when it comes to women make 80 percent of consumer buying decisions you're right 1.00

00:14:34.380 right so it's not it's not necessarily that men it's like nothing to do with men and being 0.99

00:14:38.980 attractive it's just that like women spend more money on looking good no fox fuck yeah i would say 1.00

00:14:43.820 yeah for in terms of fashion 100 that's why there's more female plus size models but men go in the 1.00

00:14:49.100 opposite direction and want to shred as much as they can or get in the best shape possible who's buying

00:14:53.360 more protein supplements who's buying more weight probably not weight loss supplements but just

00:14:58.240 who's looking to get big in the gym man

00:15:00.240 and not the not the big like fat big but good physique big we're not we're not stupid we know

00:15:08.700 what you mean like yeah like i'm pretty sure like we're all in this conversation and we we understand

00:15:14.180 the terminology around it i think there's also something to be said around treating bigger people

00:15:19.280 who clearly like are not pts and are not in the gym as much as you guys or healthier fitter people

00:15:24.580 as if they were born yesterday a lot of us like we know the fact it's just that certain people are

00:15:30.740 not doing anything about it actively or some people are on that journey and still look big but there's

00:15:35.660 a certain amount of arrogance i think around people who are fit and the way that they perceive people

00:15:43.120 who are unfit and how that manifests as treatment which is why i actually heard of that woman who 1.00

00:15:48.940 like she was really big and she wants to buy it she thinks that plane seats should be like three seats

00:15:53.840 wide because oh my god we spoke about a lot right because she can't like fit in a single plane seat 1.00

00:15:59.700 like that there's a certain amount of ignorance from fit people towards unfit people and i think that's

00:16:07.020 why it manifests what do you mean ignorance arrogance and ignorance like just that clarification it's like

00:16:12.080 we know what you mean by getting big in the gym it's like there's context that i think i don't think

00:16:17.540 i don't think he was being arrogant no i'm more i i think i think it's the other way around i think

00:16:23.320 the fat who are asking for extreme on the plane are claiming to be victims they're they're the ones

00:16:28.640 walking around with arrogance and saying hey i deserve better treatment yeah whereas the fit don't look

00:16:33.200 down on you they just look at you maybe that you have a lack of discipline or maybe maybe uh you could

00:16:38.520 make healthier choices i would encourage all my fat mates to lose weight and get in better shape

00:16:44.140 that doesn't mean i look down upon them do you think there's a back and forth between the fit and

00:16:48.640 the unfit and it's sort of like the anti gets upped where you've got people asking for like three

00:16:53.820 literal plane seats so that they can sit comfortably on a plane and then you've got fit people who are

00:16:58.460 antagonizing fat people for the way they look do you not think there's a back and forth between those

00:17:02.680 two halves of what do you call antagonizing i don't think i think like we're talking about

00:17:08.340 victimhood a lot of people who are big and feel particularly sensitive about being big they would

00:17:13.160 see particular comments as antagonizing whereas you guys might see it as like a healthy bit of

00:17:17.900 bullying and it gets you to where you want to be but people like being fat is a very sensitive issue

00:17:22.800 because it stems from an emotional deficit and that's something that i think a lot of people would

00:17:27.400 accept as being true so if it stems from an emotional deficit you know that it's a sensitive

00:17:33.180 subject i think i think i think fit people are trying to help i i really do i think i think most

00:17:40.700 fit people i mean i've even offered us at any day you guys want to work out 11 a 11 a.m coming i swear

00:17:46.640 to god i'll do it even one of my my produce one of my my other producer struggles with his way i make

00:17:53.540 him go up the stairs with me like like i think most fit people i don't make him he does it out

00:17:58.160 of his free will don't don't clip that but but no but like most fit people will help you like most

00:18:04.640 fit people are encouraging but like i just think we get to a point where fat people don't want to

00:18:09.240 talk about what's reality yeah and the reality is it is an early grave the reality is you shouldn't

00:18:14.140 be content at it as is the reality is a lot of people will have problems because of the choices that

00:18:19.600 you make nobody has denied that though but but i i would say maybe i'm not saying they're denying it

00:18:26.840 i'm saying the movement in general i'm not talking about you guys personally says to be content as is

00:18:32.380 and focuses on mental health i don't think we should focus on mental health i think we should focus on

00:18:37.580 physical health first i just think that both things can exist at once and that's my standpoint like

00:18:42.900 i i think that you can want to be better and you can improve yourself and you can also not hold

00:18:47.440 yourself back from things that you want to do and with the plane seat thing that's that's a really

00:18:51.100 complicated one because i can empathize with the pain that they must feel how embarrassing that must

00:18:54.940 be and i can understand the jerk reaction to be like oh well the seats should just be bigger i

00:18:58.780 understand that but like when i couldn't go down a slide my thought was not this slide should be

00:19:03.260 bigger right it was i should be smaller like this is not normal that i can't go down this slide

00:19:07.880 but i've also sat on a plane before where i've had a bigger person next to me and they've apologized

00:19:11.820 for their weight and i felt really sad that they felt like they had to do that don't don't you think

00:19:16.180 like all of these adjustments are enabling it like making bigger clothes making bigger seats making

00:19:22.180 like putting models in the media like it isn't in a way it's enabling it the same way it's the same

00:19:27.660 the same way handing alcohol and making it easy easy to drink is enabling and alcohol people used to

00:19:34.220 train to fit in a wedding dress a couple years ago now people used to go to the art post i'll try and

00:19:39.700 be like listen i want to get in this wedding dress i want to be a certain weight everyone still does that

00:19:44.340 no i think they are plus size uh no no no girl come on 60 60 of us are overweight like they do not

00:19:52.900 when people get married they i don't know anyone who's got married and not tried to lose weight for

00:19:57.860 their wedding day no but pearl's question was is it enabling people to get fatter to a degree no i don't

00:20:03.460 i don't think that anybody like i have a lot of skinny friends most of my friends are skinny and i don't

00:20:07.940 think any of my skinny friends have ever looked at me and been like do you know what i'd like to get

00:20:11.860 fatter they've never it's just never happened no but it's enabling you it's enabling you they're

00:20:16.740 not saying i want to get fatter they're saying because you're seeing it every oh and it's okay

00:20:21.380 we can do this that it's enabling them to get further i don't even if it's subconsciously i can

00:20:26.420 still eat like this honestly like because i mean my big thing is i have a sugar addiction i kind of like

00:20:31.780 it when people like when i'm eating something bad and someone says something to be about it

00:20:36.180 like because i'm like yeah i probably should it like i think it's helpful makes you feel guilty

00:20:40.420 yeah and i think those things are part of normal conversations though i don't think there's

00:20:44.500 anything necessarily wrong with that specifically like my boyfriend is skinny and i'll say that to 0.97

00:20:49.380 him because he has a major sweet tooth and he eats a lot of crap like and i'll be like that is your 0.91

00:20:55.220 second piece of cake today you know like and he's not fat like i think that's a normal conversation but 0.98

00:21:00.500 we're both mentally stable people you can't say that to everyone do you know skinny people could have a high

00:21:04.180 visceral fat yeah that's a huge thing that is missed out in the body positivity movement and i

00:21:10.100 think it gets to a point where we have to stop it's much deeper than what they want to be helped and help

00:21:14.740 them how they need to be helped it's like we talked about it earlier right when people have a really

00:21:19.220 serious drug addiction there comes a point where your loved ones you have like a bit of an intervention

00:21:24.020 right and your people they sit you down they say you need help you're going to die your kids need

00:21:29.140 you around so off you go you're going to rehab for six to twelve months and you're not coming back until

00:21:33.700 you sort yourself out so at what point do we stop helping people how they want to be helped and

00:21:38.660 help them how they need to be helped how do fat people need to be helped well it depends on the

00:21:43.700 person doesn't you said not they want to be that's how so depending on the person is how they would

00:21:47.460 want to be helped no it depends how do people in general need to be helped do the government need

00:21:51.940 to come in and say okay no more mcdonald's well i don't have the answer to that their friends family and

00:21:56.180 people around a plus size model how they care how could people encourage what is the best way 0.83

00:22:06.180 to encourage people to lose weight for me i found what i did encouraged a lot of people a lot of

00:22:12.100 people were like oh yeah i should lose weight too from the video i made there was a really positive

00:22:16.100 video about wanting to help myself like i got a lot of positive response from that i got a little

00:22:20.100 negative response from people being like it makes me really sad that you call yourself fat because i'm

00:22:24.420 bigger than you because i i made a few jokes i i picked fun at myself and i called myself fat in

00:22:28.100 the video and that made some people feel bad well they should tell them they're fat too and they

00:22:31.860 should they should work out it's not how i think though i just don't think like that and i don't

00:22:37.860 think i would argue that i don't think accommodating is necessarily enabling in the same way if you want

00:22:42.420 to compare it to drug addiction i would say that there are healthy ways to use drugs and like i think

00:22:46.660 it's in the netherlands they have places you can go where you can shoot up with clean needles and things

00:22:50.740 like that and i think that harm reduction is much better than just saying no it's like celibacy it

00:22:55.780 just doesn't work no i mean as as like i i had i had a cousin that died from like drug addiction

00:23:01.300 i'm sorry to hear that i mean it's okay it was a while ago but i just don't think that enabling's

00:23:06.020 like i wouldn't look at someone that gave him drugs in a healthy way and say oh thank you for that

00:23:11.540 like i i think i think it was it would actually be a negative thing i think there's a difference between

00:23:16.260 enabling and accommodating and and one is realistic yeah is it a means to an end accommodating and like

00:23:23.380 um safe usage that's a means to an end right the end is that you'd hope that the person stops using

00:23:28.100 drugs accommodating fatness the end is that you hope that the person yeah so in the same vein

00:23:33.140 how is a person going to stop using drugs if they're being given it safely and how is a fat person

00:23:38.340 going to stop getting fat or maintain his weight if he doesn't stop or he or she doesn't stop eating

00:23:43.140 something um interesting that i came across recently was as a plus-size model i was thinking 0.98

00:23:48.100 like i want to make my own brand i want to invest a lot of money into something and start producing

00:23:52.900 something and i thought about making plus-size lingerie i thought about making plus-size clothes

00:23:56.260 i spoke to some financial advisors i spoke to a few people and everybody told me do not do it because

00:24:01.300 there's no money in staying fat like that is what i was taught by professionals they were like the money

00:24:06.740 isn't losing weight not being fat but why because he asked you a question like what's the best way to

00:24:11.460 help fat people isn't it diet and exercise isn't that the best way to lose weight is to first start

00:24:21.460 telling yourself that it's one step at a time one step at a time um have a plan give yourself okay

00:24:29.300 imagine i do 10 sit-ups today tomorrow i'm going to go for 15 if it's still hard i'm going to do 15 on

00:24:35.460 the third day then i'm going to push myself to do 20 and along with that even trying new foods and

00:24:41.540 just eating fresh things diet and exercise it's diet and exercise but a lot of people that don't lose

00:24:47.460 weight it's because of mobility issues so it's again if i can't do this with my knee what can i do how

00:24:53.380 can i move my upper but not everyone has a mobility issue like for the last three years like governments have

00:25:00.580 put out ad campaigns you should you should take this it's safe or you know smoking ads are put up

00:25:07.620 on television would you guys be opposed to a government ad saying if you continue eating this

00:25:12.980 way you're going to die that's why they had that i just i just want to say firstly losing weight is

00:25:20.180 20 fitness and it's 80 nutrition so when you're talking about mobility um it has nothing to do with

00:25:26.340 sit ups how does it do with running or in the gym is is 80 diet anyway so if you want to lose weight

00:25:33.540 then know where the 80 is nobody 20 is and you personalize your program to that also when people

00:25:40.100 if you want to do i need to i need to come in because there are a couple of things that i want to push

00:25:43.860 back on from something that pia said it goes back to every like a lot of these things tie back to each

00:25:49.380 other you said both things can exist at the same time that that that's in my opinion is a very wrong

00:25:54.740 ideology because if you say you can want to lose weight and at the same time enjoy your body the

00:26:02.180 weight is in its current state i i think that is you actually stopping yourself from actually losing

00:26:08.340 weight because both things can't actually exist at the same time it goes back to the same thing we

00:26:12.500 talked about on this podcast where women want everything you can't have everything in life so if 1.00

00:26:16.980 you really want to lose weight you need to um how will i put it you need to basically starve yourself of

00:26:23.940 certain things but you can't be enjoying those things and trying to lose weight because you

00:26:29.620 wouldn't lose weight so for instance like you said a bikini should be earned when you stop yourself from

00:26:35.060 wearing a bikini till you earn it you would actually get that goal you're saying this but if you yeah but

00:26:40.020 if you're if you're able to wear the bikini on a sunday and say you're going to go to the gym on a

00:26:45.860 monday you're not going to work as hard in the gym i think that you're confusing like um aesthetics and

00:26:51.780 health there because for me those things aren't particularly linked i want to lose weight because

00:26:55.620 i want to be healthy but i don't dislike the way that i look i'm not confusing it i'm not confusing

00:26:59.140 you know why because a lot of times we try to be um deeper than we actually should be a lot of these

00:27:04.660 things are actually very soft trying to make it more complex facts facts facts before you can talk

00:27:09.380 about all these things about the mind or your eyes are the first thing that you used to see so your your

00:27:14.980 brain is going to work on what it sees so no matter what you try to tell yourself in your head

00:27:19.060 your eyes still see what you look like and that's the reason why i wanted to ask the question to the

00:27:24.340 personal trainers because it's very funny pearl asked what is the best way to lose weight and with

00:27:29.620 all due respect i don't think um you are in the right position to answer that question um puff no but

00:27:35.700 he did say partially it was correct no i know i know but the reason why i'm saying that is because this is

00:27:41.460 the thing you um it's like that question should have been answered by the personal trainers in my

00:27:49.140 opinion because one they have worked with people that help people lose weight so they know if even

00:27:54.420 if if you haven't done it you saying it is kind of like okay it kind of counteracts your argument

00:28:01.860 there are personal trainers yeah who actually don't understand injuries they don't literally they don't

00:28:08.500 understand it because they keep on working with fit people and that's why they just ain't nobody

00:28:13.700 there's a lot of there's a lot of that's it locally like yeah like people because there's

00:28:18.980 something you said no it makes me know that you don't really understand this because you said something

00:28:23.460 like what um when you go to the gym it's scary you see these people working out the reality is because

00:28:27.940 i worked in the gym the reality is some the fittest people are actually the most empathetic okay okay

00:28:32.900 because they've had to do the hard work they know just just last week i think what you do what you've

00:28:40.580 done essentially is you've you put a mental block on yourself so you see things that actually not

00:28:45.300 there you're going to the gym you see people looking at you and you think oh my god they're

00:28:48.580 judging me the reality is most people don't even care about other people okay so i joined the gym

00:28:54.340 a week and a half ago in essex now it's my induction and some things obviously i know how to use

00:29:02.020 because i use it but because i want to improve myself i was like so are you going to show me

00:29:07.860 around like he's like yeah that's that that's that and i'm like so aren't you going to show me how to

00:29:12.340 use it because i at least want to use it and then he goes well you're not going to use it are you i'm

00:29:17.140 like why am i joining then i'm like you need you shouldn't be working in the gym i literally told him

00:29:22.340 yeah you changed him that's a bad experience yeah yeah that's just a bad experience no but no but it

00:29:26.900 happens a lot and it's not large because that's what i mean by encouragement when people aren't

00:29:32.660 used to working hey hey 11 a.m tomorrow you can't say this i was just going to say this this this you

00:29:42.340 offered this same thing the last time i was here and between then and now we haven't seen you here

00:29:47.220 can i say why can i can i can i can i tell you why why my dad's got cancer and he's been in hospital

00:29:54.100 and this week i actually gave him his a sponge bath and when you're gonna lose a father and when

00:30:03.300 you're seeing them deteriorate you ain't like it's like i've just been going it's like i don't have

00:30:11.140 any emotions so sorry to hear about i've just been keeping busy and a part of keeping busy is i know i

00:30:18.180 need to drink water and and actually care for myself which is keeping active and getting good

00:30:24.980 sleep and literally eating healthy and that's the way i'm living now and when i go to work stuff that

00:30:30.500 you see on instagram tiktok events and stuff like that i only go there get the picture done take a few

00:30:36.660 say hello to a few people and leave and then i wake up i've been hospital then i've got errands to do

00:30:41.380 like i live a life at hannah montana so i cook and clean at home i do i do the caring when my when

00:30:49.220 my nephews are here i'm an uncle i actually read books to them i teach them how to cook because i want

00:30:55.060 them to have real skills so when they go out and i take them out to like we learn about things nature

00:31:01.140 all these things so you don't have any personal time for yourself i don't actually know and and and

00:31:06.980 that's the thing when when p when someone's losing their life or they will hopefully they don't you

00:31:14.340 just have to be positive and there needs to be that care and i'm someone who cares about my dad and

00:31:18.020 i have and i have a lot of like empathy for that but it's like you're sitting on a couch for three

00:31:24.500 hours here so it kind of just shows where your priorities are but can i say something i've been

00:31:30.740 here like twice and you know keep coming you're very good content social media as well nothing nothing

00:31:36.260 like personal but it kind of shows like where your priorities are because you have time but

00:31:40.580 but pearl without sounding rude as much as i love this podcast when romeo asked me i was like romeo

00:31:48.580 na na na oh na na because i actually really wanted to watch and dub tonight because why because it

00:31:55.380 helps me keep active i'm gonna dance i'm gonna be like grooving i swear it's i have a good time

00:32:02.580 podcast ain't really me but coming on your podcast because i enjoy you yeah that's why i'm here oh

00:32:08.340 oh i'm actually i'm not my point is my point isn't about the podcasting it's just i think we all make

00:32:16.020 choices in okay sorry i just need to i want to share a personal experience so this might help you um when

00:32:25.620 i started working here i went through certain personal things in my life which i'm not going to

00:32:28.980 disclose and disclose but i think pearl knows a few of them but the point i'm trying to make is for

00:32:34.020 the longest time even after i started getting my life back on track i wasn't working out i'm someone

00:32:39.860 you might look at me you might think i'm fit but i'm only just starting to get my fitness back but

00:32:44.100 the reality is the reason why i wasn't working out was because of all this life stress and all of that

00:32:48.820 and even when i kind of started getting my life on track i still wasn't working out but the reality is

00:32:53.700 because that was happening because i wasn't prioritizing it once i start i got punched in

00:32:58.420 the ribs when we're sparring the other day and i kind of woke up and i was like you know what i'm

00:33:02.020 going to make time for the gym and i have been able to create the time so the reality is no matter

00:33:06.580 what you're going through in life you can always create time for the things that are most important

00:33:10.820 do you know what is because i was depressed most of my life i've been in bed most of my life okay

00:33:17.220 great so being active is actually a thing can i can i just add to that i just want to ask one

00:33:22.660 question what's the what's the one thing that you spend most money on when you don't have time

00:33:29.380 travel and food travel and food would you say that if you want to lose weight and get better

00:33:34.340 why not spend that money on a nutritionist so whereas it's not physical it's something a little

00:33:39.940 bit more personalized program where this person could help you even if you don't have time which is

00:33:44.980 what pearl's saying priorities listening to you guys i know why i am also plus size it is because

00:33:52.100 literally i am busy and i've always been which is fine and and and i can't fully share how it is for

00:34:00.660 me because i'm once i do my goals that i need to do in my career that's why i can share my story about

00:34:06.100 i've suffered and i suffer and i don't take mental health as an excuse i hear what mental health experts

00:34:12.900 have got to say but to me i'm like no if i hear what mental health experts have to say although

00:34:18.340 i go through it i'm like no because if i hear that that's it i'm falling into and the brain i learned

00:34:24.580 the power of the brain in the last two years i learned the power of the brain you can really push

00:34:32.580 yourself there's there are things like and um 11 a.m tomorrow let's push yourself come on

00:34:39.780 to get on a coach 11 a.m the next day no but just remember there is always a way and do not

00:34:44.980 okay yes yes you're right there is no way and and i'm i'm stressing and suffering and

00:34:51.220 i don't want to play devil's advocate but like you know i think everyone suffers everyone has a point of

00:34:57.140 suffering of course would you guys say that overweight people tend to have more excuses

00:35:03.860 i don't even okay especially when it comes to fitness or should i mean i think i think just in

00:35:08.980 this like conversation we could say yes sometimes i'm not gonna lie when when you're not feeling it

00:35:16.020 it's like when you're big you're always constantly feeling heavy and even like exercising is heavy and

00:35:22.100 then the muscle pain no i know in five minutes you literally get muscle pain i could say the same

00:35:26.820 i have a sugar addiction right and there's this um there's a like sort of a nutrition guy that like

00:35:32.820 texts me he's like how's your sugar and i'm like bad bad and it's because of my own choices it's because

00:35:37.620 i i lack discipline that's it it's because i lack discipline and i keep making that choice to drink

00:35:43.060 pure sugar coffee in the morning there is that but how about i tell you when you went like and now that

00:35:48.500 i've got it and like i'm better but in the past when i've exercised that exercise session will put

00:35:55.220 me into bed for a week i wouldn't be able to figure out so that's why i've been walking and that's why

00:36:01.380 i say my best way of is so so we got to figure out maybe it's diet maybe it's just diet like i know what

00:36:08.020 it is it's me it's me actually what what do you guys think is more effective someone being strict in

00:36:13.140 the gym are strict with their diet diet diet for sure i've been saying it but you don't even need

00:36:17.940 to go to gym that's the truth but baby man i did lose eight stones yeah no no that's great but even

00:36:23.060 when you were saying like you're one of your number one expenses is food like i i notice when my food

00:36:28.180 bill is high that's when i gain weight because i've been eating out actually healthy food is really

00:36:32.740 expensive gas what i don't drive out gas man healthy food is expensive you need fuel to be able to move

00:36:41.060 no it's not okay no okay look at okay look at the average juice you want to buy a good and a natural

00:36:47.940 pressed juice and you want to buy that much water yes okay yeah i do drink water and i love i love

00:36:57.060 juice and sugar like that's like my my kryptonite so i get it but at the end of the day it's just a

00:37:02.100 choice like we could drink water it is a choice and addictions people do have addictions it's different

00:37:07.140 for different people how i've got willpower some people may not and it's just the way it is i think

00:37:12.580 there's a lot more willpower for a lot of people they think that the willpower isn't going to the

00:37:17.540 gym but it is actually in what you eat because i think one of the super chats said this and this

00:37:21.860 was the point i was going to make you you have to discipline the one thing you rely on right we're

00:37:26.660 talking about drug addiction we're talking about smoking people don't need to smoke to live but you

00:37:29.860 do need to eat to live thing is you cannot out exercise a poor diet right because there's only so many

00:37:35.060 hours in the day and your body has a physical limit you could eat 12 cheeseburgers and then like get on

00:37:41.140 the treadmill for as long as you can and you know you can't really you can't out exercise the 12

00:37:46.260 cheeseburgers that you ate which is why it probably does need to start with diet and we were talking

00:37:50.900 about companies and corporate social responsibility earlier look at how much uh like the cheapest burger

00:37:56.660 from mcdonald's is like less than a pound or something or at least it was um but then if you go and

00:38:01.060 buy like a lot of people would compare and i've seen this all over instagram like mcdonald's is

00:38:05.860 really cheap compared to fruit or vegetables or a gym membership and that's what a lot of people

00:38:12.100 who like really support the body positivity movement would come back with

00:38:15.700 uh like it's about cost and and convenience and that's why going back to poor people because it's 0.98

00:38:21.220 cheaper eggs are cheap oatmeal's cheap you know well eggs yeah yeah the the the rubbish eggs are cheap

00:38:28.100 but if you're gonna buy free range that's like that you know and honestly my dad he he's always been

00:38:33.860 like thinner like in shape pretty much like never really struggled with it he lives on fast food but

00:38:39.220 he just doesn't eat a lot some people are just blessed no he's not blessed he just runs and do you

00:38:44.420 think well and he also eats a lot of like chicken from those places so do you think being fat is a result

00:38:50.420 of your environment too because my dad my dad runs a gym and that's how i got into the gym do you guys

00:38:57.940 feel like maybe it's because of the environment of course actually that's that's my my next one question

00:39:02.820 i had is is is uh yes obesity for children child abuse absolutely wait hold on obesity for children

00:39:13.540 yeah so if a child's obese is because the adult is feeding them yeah when they're aware yes if they're

00:39:19.140 not aware no because some because some parents are like my child has to eat they have to have this

00:39:24.340 they have to have that i noticed so you guys all said yes immediately do you feel like you're in the

00:39:29.860 position you're in because you were fed bad food as a child absolutely not because and i i said this last

00:39:35.620 time i hate to sound repetitive for the people who love the show but like your your circumstances may

00:39:40.340 not be your fault but it's your responsibility to change it well i just i just i just correct right

00:39:46.420 but i'm saying like when you were younger did that were you always big or did you get big when you were

00:39:50.260 older um i was smaller when i was younger and then it just like every year like okay i've just gotten

00:39:56.900 bigger okay i was just wondering if the food you ate at home affected that or no um i think to a degree

00:40:02.820 it did but i think a lot of it is just adult okay like i was i really think fried chicken and

00:40:08.980 chicken and chip shops in east london ruined me because growing up no i'm just being honest

00:40:14.420 because growing up in my household there was fish there was vegetables there was everything and it

00:40:18.340 was home cooked and my mom was always health conscious as well so it is what's it's again it

00:40:25.220 just goes to show if you grow up in a community where there are things like that and they're

00:40:29.060 promoted and they're cheap you will eat it and you will get big and that's what exactly what happened

00:40:33.460 um what do you guys think child abuse 100 yeah for sure i'd say it like it's a parent's

00:40:40.660 responsibility to care for their kids and if you're getting to a point where they're extremely unhealthy

00:40:46.260 or obese then it is child abuse oh my god yes because i mean i have a niece back home and every

00:40:52.020 time i'm with my parents and they're feeding that child i'm like don't give her too much of macaroni

00:40:58.180 don't give her too much of this and that like make sure she's eating small portions make sure she's

00:41:01.860 eating healthy so your your family's obese what what is this like conversations like with you

00:41:08.980 no no no i mean i'm saying my niece yeah when i see them feeding her no you've just every time you've

00:41:14.420 been the show a couple times you always mention your overweight like family so i'm just wondering

00:41:19.620 like what do you do what are your conversations like like do you tell them my family yeah all the

00:41:24.580 time oh yeah yeah even my cousin that died she saw the last um podcast and she even came to me

00:41:31.700 and she was like oh my god everything you guys was talking about was right i was like great so you

00:41:36.740 should be giving yourself that that type of uh advice but again it wasn't up to me yeah it was

00:41:42.740 up to her to take the advice on herself you know what i mean one of the um things that i would say

00:41:48.500 on terms of like children like i was a skinny kid like i grew up skinny uh but one thing that i will

00:41:54.100 never do that my parents did with me that i think a lot of parents do of people who get overweight as

00:41:58.740 adults is um food was like a reward if i did well at school i got to go for a nice dinner

00:42:04.500 um i got a treat if i did good at something and so when i was in university in like drama school

00:42:10.260 um and i got into this binge purge restrict routine um that was partly where like the dopamine rush came

00:42:15.940 from eating junk food was because when i grew up because i ate so healthy as a kid junk food was a reward

00:42:22.420 and when i had kids like i'd like to have a much healthier and if they do well in the exam like i would

00:42:27.060 never take them for a meal to celebrate that i'd do something else that was part of my issue okay

00:42:32.420 what do you think i feel like it's child abuse only because the child has no control over what they can

00:42:38.500 or cannot eat at the end of the day your parent will cook for you and then they'll be like they

00:42:43.620 have the food on the table go and eat so where you were saying that you were rewarded like when you

00:42:48.420 were being like good or whatever my dad he's an athlete so when the moment i started putting on weight

00:42:55.220 he would decide nope he used to make me do four laps around a track i used to see him four laps that's

00:43:00.580 it and the slower i got he'll be i'll be reprimanded again he'll be like oh well like it wouldn't be

00:43:07.540 good for me in any shape or form so for me i feel like i've taken a lot of sacrifices i haven't always

00:43:12.900 been this size i used to be once a lot bigger and then because of my diagnosis i said to myself listen

00:43:18.420 i have to make a sacrifice so i became vegan and then from that that's where i started to lose more

00:43:23.300 weight as well i need to be as light as possible so that i can manage my condition as well as other

00:43:28.740 people so if i have a relapse tomorrow and i'm like what 200 kilograms or 120 kilograms or whatever

00:43:35.940 i'm going to be a lot harder to manage than if i was 80 kilograms do you get what i'm trying to say

00:43:40.900 so for me personally you have to kind of think of the longevity of your life otherwise you know

00:43:48.340 there's no value in that i have a question for the bodybuilders

00:43:56.020 the bodybuilders yeah um if someone wanted to lose weight weight which step do you because i hear

00:44:02.580 this a lot that you need to attack it from both sides do everything but i actually don't think

00:44:06.020 that's correct i think you have to start somewhere right so if someone were to start would you advise

00:44:11.060 them to change that diet first or go to the gym first if it's an obese person i'm saying ease 0.97

00:44:19.300 yourself into it that you don't have to go nuts in the gym straight off the bat i think you got to go

00:44:24.740 diet first like like the guys have said 80 diet 20 exercise diet first ease your way into it go then

00:44:31.300 then move your way into exercise walking then resistance training slowly you know other forms of

00:44:37.700 equipment but you have to work up towards it your body's going to react pretty suddenly to it but

00:44:41.540 definitely diet first and the reason to that is um the first thing i'll do to clients is i'll put

00:44:46.020 them on the most gyms have skills right and these skills give you um certain numbers when your

00:44:52.740 clients see these numbers now you have to explain to them what category they're in you know this is

00:44:58.340 healthy this is heading into the danger zone or this is alarming and that is by diet

00:45:07.940 there's not much that the gym could do with these numbers so now you have to explain to this person

00:45:13.220 okay yes we're going to start training and then this is the particular type of training that you will

00:45:18.580 be doing but now because of what because of the lifestyle that you're you're doing right now it needs

00:45:26.340 to change and because of the diet you have right now it needs to change because whatever you're doing

00:45:30.820 right now is causing these numbers to grow and to get into the alarming range so i'd say 100 um diet

00:45:43.380 i thought he was a personal trainer as well yeah oh okay no but 100 no i feel like it's

00:45:48.420 more so diet first are you not a trainer no i am okay i was just really taking in what you were

00:45:54.900 saying i was like hold on wait it was like i'll do it for a second no 100 i feel like diet first and

00:46:01.140 then after that it would be like exercise and so because you need to create some sort of sustainable

00:46:06.740 lifestyle for yourself so you need to ease yourself into it and be able to like you know micromanage

00:46:12.820 yourself into you know what i'm trying to say you know what's funny about that i actually disagree

00:46:17.380 with all three of them i think you're wrong i mean i can prove you wrong as well but you can prove 0.82

00:46:24.980 you want to try it you want you want us to go but you take one fat person i'll take another fat

00:46:31.540 person let's see who gets the best results 11 a.m tomorrow but in terms of like the discussion

00:46:38.740 the reason why i say i think that that's well i wouldn't say it's incorrect because there's no

00:46:42.820 right way to anything but the reason why i don't think that's the most optimal way is because um

00:46:49.620 one companies benefit from this whole ideology behind dieting so if you look at where the money goes

00:46:57.300 usually you should go in the opposite direction so um i always think of it like this if i have to pay

00:47:03.620 money for anything i'll rather do the thing that's free going to working out is free you

00:47:08.660 can go for a run on the road you can do all of that and reason why i think working out is better

00:47:12.660 first is because i think it's more sustainable and it gives you more of a feedback than dieting

00:47:19.540 dieting is very broad it's like it's almost like when you say dieting most people are confused they

00:47:24.580 don't even know what you're talking about nice i have a question but the reason why i think working

00:47:28.020 out is actually more important is because if you go to the gym every day and you're able to stay

00:47:32.420 consistent with that your body will give you feedback one two the harder it gets it will get harder

00:47:37.540 first before it gets easier right yeah but i don't motivate the same the same goes for a diet though

00:47:41.940 no because the reason why i'm trying to make this point is because these days when it

00:47:46.900 when the wine uh an era where people hammer so much on mental health and all this crap right i actually

00:47:53.380 i agree that these are the things that hindering people from achieving these goals right reality is

00:47:57.380 you cannot have a strong mind without a strong body first right but both require discipline having a

00:48:03.540 good diet and exercising regularly but you still have to build a strong body to get to the strong

00:48:09.540 mentality yeah but how are you gonna you gotta get you gotta get yourself to a point to build the

00:48:13.540 strong body no you can start straight away with the diet you can build the strong body even when you

00:48:17.380 don't want to so i have people okay so body so you're exercising still yeah but you're still eating

00:48:23.380 like a pig yeah but the more you keep exercising the more the discipline comes because that's if you're

00:48:29.300 working hard at exercise and you're seeing that you're still putting on this yeah but enough effort 0.96

00:48:33.140 that you're getting to your goals and your body is still giving you that um feedback of you do this

00:48:38.500 and it's painful you would want to improve in other areas to make that endeavor easier yeah but

00:48:43.540 you could burn a thousand calories i would disagree and agree you could burn a thousand calories and

00:48:47.940 eat four thousand calories it just i think you got to start with your diet first yeah i disagree i'm sorry

00:48:53.460 go ahead no i was gonna say i'll disagree and agree is because if you start having that consistency

00:48:58.740 and discipline yes you're gonna get stronger um you're gonna get stronger mindset you're gonna

00:49:03.940 get a fitter body but then when you continue eating poor diet then they're definitely not

00:49:10.420 gonna change but what it will do when you work out what it will do it will encourage you yes

00:49:16.820 what do you guys think what do you guys think what would you rather start with i think

00:49:20.500 start exercising or or start with your diet first because you guys have 11 a.m tomorrow

00:49:26.660 one second i think um the the part that i agree on is because of that discipline and consistency

00:49:32.740 it is going to encourage you to eat healthier because you know start feeling better you know

00:49:37.060 start feeling fitter it will encourage you to eat more healthy and that's the part i agree on you on

00:49:44.020 but still i mean diet wins because even when i started working out again

00:49:49.780 i was saying for the longest i'm going to stop fizzy drinking i didn't actually stop until i started

00:49:53.940 going to the gym yeah so because the thing you're in the stairs and doing the stairs is actually the

00:49:59.700 start of everything yeah yeah you see that you see the elevator up we do the stairs so yeah

00:50:05.940 for me yeah but i think now you're a little bit more conscious on your diet though right yeah yeah

00:50:10.740 in the process of i've really Charlie's way i find it much easier to eat better on days i've worked out

00:50:16.580 that morning because i have this whole thing in my head of like i don't want to undo it i don't want

00:50:19.780 to undo it i don't want to do it you know whereas if i haven't worked out that day i'm like well

00:50:25.060 you know what i mean it's it is easier but the diet is the more effective thing like i used to

00:50:29.780 never ever do this but when i was skinnier i used to do water fasts um particularly for roles or for

00:50:36.020 auditions when i was an actor i would water fast for like five days and i would lose like two pounds

00:50:41.220 a day could not be me um yeah but i would say that that's like that takes a lot of discipline

00:50:46.340 it's very very hard but like i was like not okay when i did do you guys think that weight loss

00:50:51.380 programs are toxic toxic if they if they include um taking non-natural things yeah but if it's natural

00:51:01.300 and if it's just using your own way and equipment that is no harm to you then no it's not toxic only

00:51:07.940 it gets toxic when you add the drugs i think it's the execution of the weight loss program that makes

00:51:12.500 it not necessarily toxic but unhelpful um and it doesn't serve the individual what about the company

00:51:17.940 what about the biggest loser what's that has that show got cancelled yet wait yeah

00:51:23.620 you guys don't know what the biggest it's like it's like a challenge i know i watch

00:51:30.660 guys see what you're new they get about eight to ten obese people get pair them up with personal

00:51:36.420 trainers prominent personal trainers and they would see who would lose the most weight

00:51:41.140 did they gain it back very entertaining show a lot a lot of did i would love to watch if that

00:51:45.380 came back i might even go on you but a lot of a lot of the personal trainers we have one in australia

00:51:49.780 we can we can make our own version we should do it we should just do it yeah yeah but a personal

00:51:54.500 trainer back in australia who was on the show michelle bridges got cancelled because she would have a go at 0.99

00:52:00.100 that magazines media all pushing body positivity and larger women on magazines and i think the same

00:52:07.860 thing happened with a us personal trainer on the biggest loser yeah that's her field she's in fitness 0.99

00:52:15.460 should she even be getting cancelled for saying this is unhealthy no i don't think she should be

00:52:20.100 cancelled but i think it it just it's about sensitivity again right it's this um it's the fact that we want

00:52:27.060 to sort of molly cuddle people into we want to wrap them in cotton wool and protect their feelings and

00:52:32.980 if a personal trainer is on you know a bit more of the brutal side and their approach is a little bit

00:52:38.260 more boot camp-esque they are less palatable less desirable to people who are potentially not as

00:52:43.860 serious as as serious about their goals or people who just don't take kindly to being shouted abuse

00:52:48.820 yeah so you're saying there's not what you say is how she said execution in that there is a lot in how

00:52:53.860 you say it yeah yeah and how weight loss programs like approach things i like it when my trainer is

00:52:58.740 a little mean to me just a little bit i've realized you like things in your own little ways

00:53:05.140 yeah no but it's like you always have your own little ways you know it's kind of like the teacher

00:53:09.860 you like the one that's a bit strict you know

00:53:12.020 there are clients i'll come to you and be like i want you to be hard on me

00:53:17.700 no no i just think you know otherwise i'll otherwise i'll i'll cancel the personal training

00:53:23.540 you know if they don't yell at me i'll i'll be like our clients if you're not hard on them they will

00:53:27.780 continue yeah especially if they if you cancel and they're like oh it's okay no it's not okay stop

00:53:33.060 letting me do that even if you charge me yeah i agree yeah generally in life are you more dominant

00:53:42.500 or like would you say um would you say you're more dominant or you're more on the opposite of

00:53:48.340 dominance or submissive you know it depends on the environment i played sports for a while

00:53:53.860 so i would say in sports i was more yeah but as an athlete yeah you would rather a coach that

00:53:58.900 is strict and hard on the team you want to play for the coach yeah so yeah when you bring up uh

00:54:03.940 workout routines toxic at the end of the day it's up to the individual if you don't like the way

00:54:09.380 they're executing it you can leave go to the next personal trainer absolutely but you know you want

00:54:14.100 someone that's going to keep you accountable at the end of the day yeah fox

JustPearlyThings - July 04, 2023

Pearl Gave Her A Reality Check

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