JustPearlyThings - Pearl KICKED OUT A Man from Her Show for The First Time.

00:00:00.000 you're ready to have kids with me,

00:00:01.260 you must be ready to marry me also, do you get it?

00:00:03.160 Because I'm not about to raise no child by myself.

00:00:05.240 It's not happening.

00:00:06.240 I don't care how stable I am.

00:00:08.120 I don't care what point in life I'm at.

00:00:09.960 So it's bigger than just having a baby.

00:00:11.680 And I feel like a lot for a lot of women as well, 0.82

00:00:13.940 like a lot of the reason why women don't want to have kids, 1.00

00:00:16.900 it stems from trauma.

00:00:18.080 You watch your mother grow up as a single mother,

00:00:20.360 like you haven't had any good representations

00:00:23.100 of good marriages around you.

00:00:24.320 Like it's bigger than just having a baby.

00:00:26.820 So I feel like, yeah.

00:00:28.960 My mom says, to quote my mother,

00:00:31.600 cause she's just so wise.

00:00:32.780 Oh my God, what a woman. 1.00

00:00:34.000 She goes, as long as you're a woman, you're a mother. 0.97

00:00:35.960 That's what she always tells me.

00:00:37.600 That's such a Caribbean thing, you know.

00:00:39.260 But they're right.

00:00:40.540 She says, as long as you're a woman, you're a mother.

00:00:43.180 So at the end of the day, like.

00:00:44.480 Yeah, but a good mother or a bad mother? 1.00

00:00:46.980 What do you mean?

00:00:47.820 Because bad mothers, bad mothers create bad children. 1.00

00:00:50.980 And it's evolution.

00:00:51.980 Yeah, 100%, we get all of that.

00:00:53.400 But what she's just trying to say was just a simple.

00:00:55.280 Yeah, you're the strong.

00:00:56.440 No, it's not, it's not.

00:00:57.740 Let us speak, let us speak, let us know.

00:00:59.380 She's trying to say just one simple term.

00:01:01.000 From when you're a woman, you're a mother.

00:01:03.880 Meaning that we just have a natural disposition to love.

00:01:07.580 This is going to be your final warning.

00:01:09.280 Please stop interrupting everybody.

00:01:11.060 Go ahead, go.

00:01:11.780 It's just a natural inclination to just love and to take care.

00:01:15.260 Like when we saw the dog running around,

00:01:16.700 what did all the girls do? 1.00

00:01:18.400 Oh, we're ready to take the dog.

00:01:20.060 Of course, because they have that potato thing. 0.99

00:01:23.320 But we're just more extra with it, you know what I mean?

00:01:26.200 Yeah, nurturing.

00:01:26.700 Can I just say one thing to your plate though?

00:01:28.200 We're just nurturing.

00:01:29.200 I think it's been difficult to say this because I think, obviously,

00:01:32.700 you guys make all great points here in the room and it's good to have different opinions.

00:01:36.200 But from speaking to a lot of women, I'd like to say I've been fairly successful as a man,

00:01:43.640 maybe not in terms of relationships, but in terms of friendships and just building trust

00:01:47.640 with a lot of people.

00:01:48.680 And the conversations I have living in London, you know, some metropolitan city,

00:01:52.520 a lot of people have careers and I feel like they're so pressured these days.

00:01:56.840 And I feel like, you know, society is making it so difficult for people to actually want to,

00:02:02.680 you know, have kids.

00:02:03.800 It is very difficult, you know, growing up, watching our mothers struggle.

00:02:07.480 You know, that's a major one.

00:02:09.160 You're talking about trauma, right?

00:02:10.600 So I think when we're talking about owing something, I think we do owe, you know, every,

00:02:15.160 you know, we owe something to someone or to the community, to society.

00:02:19.960 But I think the government should make it a little bit easier for people.

00:02:23.400 I think it's very expensive and it is scary.

00:02:25.880 Like, you know, a lot of people that want to have kids, I think they probably think they can't afford to have kids.

00:02:29.800 Okay, that's no, the government should not make it easier for people.

00:02:32.440 That is not the government's responsibility.

00:02:34.280 And I want to talk about...

00:02:35.160 We're already very spoiled in this country already.

00:02:37.080 I want to talk...

00:02:38.120 There's a lot of people struggling.

00:02:38.760 No, no, this is what...

00:02:39.640 I agree with what you said, but I want to get a little granular.

00:02:42.520 And I want to ask you in a second, but if I may, because we talk about the concept of ownership.

00:02:47.080 Like, do I owe it to the world to be a mother?

00:02:49.000 And you said, well, maybe the government should make it easier.

00:02:50.920 And that completely voiced that over to the responsibility that men have.

00:02:54.920 So I asked the guys the question here, just the guys.

00:02:58.040 Do you owe it to the world to be productive?

00:03:02.600 Do you owe it to the world to have the best version of yourself?

00:03:06.760 Do you owe it to the world to build institutions?

00:03:09.240 Do you owe it to the world to conduct yourself with integrity and character?

00:03:12.600 And do you owe it to the world to be a trustworthy, respectable man?

00:03:15.560 Yes or no?

00:03:16.120 So I'm going to twist this question a bit in line of what's been said here.

00:03:20.200 No, no, no.

00:03:20.680 That was stuff one of stuff like two.

00:03:22.520 But I just want to say, you know, I think a lot of guys, they try to be pronatalists, right?

00:03:26.280 And they're like, I'm just going to go out there and have a lot of kids, right?

00:03:28.840 But pronatalism is about culture.

00:03:30.760 If I just go out there and I have a lot of kids and I don't treat my wife like a queen,

00:03:33.960 if my daughters don't grow up wanting to be moms because of the way they see their mom live, 0.98

00:03:39.400 then I have failed.

00:03:40.920 And if I treat my wife like and my sons see that, then they're going to treat their wives that way and their daughters, yes.

00:03:48.680 And this is what pronatalism is about.

00:03:50.360 It's about rethinking as a society what it means to be married to somebody,

00:03:54.280 what it means to sacrifice for somebody because that's what I owe all of this to is her

00:03:59.240 because she's given up so much for me.

00:04:00.520 I like this guy.

00:04:01.320 It's hard.

00:04:01.800 Come on.

00:04:03.240 I owe it to my wife, but I haven't met her yet.

00:04:08.440 You know what I mean?

00:04:09.480 You owe it to your mom too, though.

00:04:11.000 Yeah, but my mom's-

00:04:11.560 Not just your wife.

00:04:12.200 You don't even have a wife right now.

00:04:13.160 Some of us got some generational curses to break.

00:04:15.800 Listen, and let me tell you where I'm coming from before I get kicked off the show.

00:04:20.280 Yeah, I'm not talking for humanity.

00:04:22.600 I'm talking for myself.

00:04:23.960 You said my mom.

00:04:24.920 My mom's in the sky.

00:04:26.040 She's been dead for like seven years.

00:04:28.440 So be careful what you say and how you say it,

00:04:30.840 because each individual person are going through their own pains

00:04:35.960 and their own mental brain processes are different.

00:04:39.480 Everyone's not the same.

00:04:41.160 And that's all I want everyone to understand.

00:04:43.720 We're not the same.

00:04:45.400 Everyone's trying to put us on the same playing field,

00:04:48.040 but we're not the same.

00:04:49.160 That's like water is wet.

00:04:50.200 The sky is blue.

00:04:51.000 Yeah, I'm not.

00:04:52.040 You're talking in parables.

00:04:53.720 I don't care about parables.

00:04:55.080 A parable?

00:04:55.560 A parable is water's wet.

00:04:57.480 Like, I don't really understand that.

00:04:59.720 The sky is blue, but the sky is a reflection of the sea.

00:05:04.200 Like, can we go back to the point where like,

00:05:05.800 if we got help, we would actually reproduce.

00:05:07.480 Because for example, you always see footballers at like 25 with bare kids.

00:05:12.280 And it's because they can afford it.

00:05:13.880 They can actually give that child a really good life that they may never have had.

00:05:17.480 If I had money, I would be on the hunt for a guy and I would be able to focus.

00:05:21.160 I don't think it's money.

00:05:23.000 I think it's that women throw themselves at these guys. 1.00

00:05:25.480 I don't know, it's so nice and easy saying, let's reproduce.

00:05:30.600 But people can't afford to have it.

00:05:32.840 Okay.

00:05:33.320 I actually, I want to let, um.

00:05:34.840 Pearl, this was exactly the second point.

00:05:37.240 I was starting a point.

00:05:38.040 Okay, go ahead.

00:05:38.520 And then this dude brilliantly hijacked my point,

00:05:40.440 twisted it into a new point, presented a third point,

00:05:43.560 and got an applause for it.

00:05:44.840 So thanks for stealing my thunder. 0.99

00:05:46.120 I killed him. 1.00

00:05:46.760 I killed him. 1.00

00:05:47.560 That was very rude. 0.99

00:05:48.600 He's a good dude.

00:05:50.200 So the question I postulate is do we men owe it to society

00:05:54.840 to be the best versions of ourselves to produce useful labor,

00:05:57.320 to build institutions, right?

00:05:58.840 And if the answer is yes,

00:05:59.960 because it gives us a purpose to aim for something higher,

00:06:02.680 why is it then that men owe it to society to build institutions?

00:06:06.040 Because building institutions, being reliable, being of high character,

00:06:09.880 being of value, of economic value to society,

00:06:12.760 what you do is you make money.

00:06:14.440 And by the way, the stripes on my suit say make money for that purpose,

00:06:17.960 because it, because it teaches you, it's not,

00:06:20.360 it's not supposed to be as reductive as it seems.

00:06:22.440 It's very simple.

00:06:23.240 It just teaches you to be self-reliant and independent

00:06:25.480 because it's a high purpose to shoot for,

00:06:27.400 to not have to rely on the government.

00:06:29.080 That's all that says.

00:06:29.800 It's like a freedom from government.

00:06:30.920 It's not about relying on the government.

00:06:32.120 I said, some people don't have the same opportunities as you.

00:06:35.320 Maybe you grew up in a very nice,

00:06:36.920 I don't know, I don't know.

00:06:38.040 Listen, I'm saying maybe, right?

00:06:39.320 I'm very, listen.

00:06:40.120 Okay, cool.

00:06:40.360 Maybe you didn't.

00:06:40.920 Bruv, stop.

00:06:42.040 I'm not done yet.

00:06:42.680 No, let him finish his point.

00:06:43.720 Yeah, but I'm just saying.

00:06:44.600 Let me finish my point before you argue my point.

00:06:45.960 You don't know my point.

00:06:46.920 Let him go.

00:06:47.960 You don't know my point.

00:06:48.600 Finish your point, bruv.

00:06:49.480 I grew up in a predominantly social housing,

00:06:52.040 ghetto neighborhood because I'm an immigrant from the Soviet Union,

00:06:54.680 and I ate at the food bank, and it was embarrassing.

00:06:57.240 So what does that mean?

00:06:58.040 What does that mean?

00:06:58.680 It means, it means that I'm-

00:07:00.040 I ain't at the food bank.

00:07:00.760 To me, what does that mean?

00:07:01.640 I'm not-

00:07:02.360 What does that mean nothing to you, bruv? 1.00

00:07:03.640 Don't knock your shit. 1.00

00:07:04.680 Guy that's dressed like a grasshopper. 1.00

00:07:07.160 Stop interrupting, bruv.

00:07:08.600 What are you talking to me?

00:07:10.600 Yes, I'm talking exactly to you.

00:07:12.600 So, hey what we do.

00:07:13.960 Hey what we do.

00:07:14.840 Okay, hey what we do.

00:07:15.960 Listen, listen, listen.

00:07:16.840 Let me land.

00:07:17.400 Let me land.

00:07:18.200 Let me land.

00:07:18.680 Can you mute his mic?

00:07:19.480 Let me land.

00:07:20.040 I've given you so many warnings.

00:07:21.560 Please, guys.

00:07:22.280 Get rid of him.

00:07:23.160 Big up your comments, though.

00:07:25.160 Big up your comment.

00:07:26.040 I love that.

00:07:27.480 Can you see the buttons you're trying to press?

00:07:29.000 Can you mute his mic, please?

00:07:30.920 Thank you.

00:07:31.640 Mute my mic.

00:07:32.440 Yeah, no, you have to go.

00:07:33.400 I've told you to stop.

00:07:34.760 Um...

00:07:36.360 Hey, yo.

00:07:38.360 Okay, Dimitri, go ahead.

00:07:40.520 Anyway, so the aspiration for a man, there has to be a higher purpose, right? 0.63

00:07:44.360 I'm not saying that we're all, you know, the same and we have the same opportunity.

00:07:47.000 It's not that.

00:07:47.880 The idea is not that we have the same potential.

00:07:50.600 We all have different potentials.

00:07:51.640 You're probably a better musician than I am.

00:07:53.000 I'm not very creative, right?

00:07:54.440 We have different potentials in academia.

00:07:56.280 We have different potential in the way we present ourselves.

00:07:58.280 We all have different potential, right?

00:07:59.800 But the idea of being productive and a man of value is that you have a higher purpose to aim for.

00:08:07.320 So, Pearl, I want to answer your question.

00:08:09.800 Do women owe it to society to have kids? 1.00

00:08:11.480 I'm not going to tell women what they owe or they don't owe. 0.98

00:08:13.640 But the idea that if a woman owes it to society to have kids, that sets an extremely high bar of 1.00

00:08:19.560 aspiration because it's so damn hard to be a productive enough person for a man to attract a

00:08:25.720 woman who's got enough wisdom and sagaciousness and long-term outlook. 0.78

00:08:32.200 And by the way, we talk about we don't owe anything anyone, like servitude.

00:08:36.440 It's a very high bar to have children, is it not?

00:08:38.680 It is a high bar for yourself.

00:08:40.680 And that's aspirational and that's beautiful.

00:08:44.200 Oh, sorry.

00:08:45.960 Don't you feel like there has to be like some sort of stability within you and your partner to bring children?

00:08:52.920 No, no, no, stop for a second.

00:08:54.760 I take it on myself as a man that it is my job to bring stability.

00:08:58.600 And all the stoic literature and all the biblical literature says that it is up to a man to build 0.59

00:09:04.920 institutions.

00:09:05.400 Yes, you do need stability.

00:09:06.440 And who's responsible for that?

00:09:07.480 So I aim for the bar, the high bar as a man, that I can be productive and bring stability

00:09:12.200 so that I give a woman a safe place to have children. 1.00

00:09:14.360 Yeah.

00:09:14.840 So multiple things can be true.

00:09:16.200 One thing we've talked a lot about here, it's the cost of raising children, you know?

00:09:19.320 And I think two things can be true simultaneously.

00:09:21.880 One thing that is just true across countries is the less money you have, typically the more kids you have.

00:09:26.040 And this only really reverses when the family's income is over half a million a year.

00:09:30.280 Then it starts to go up again.

00:09:31.240 But, you know, that's a lot of money.

00:09:33.320 But it's also true that you have to make enormous sacrifices.

00:09:36.040 And it is enormously costly to have a kid in our society.

00:09:39.560 And I actually think that half a million mark, that's the mark in which people don't really

00:09:43.000 have to make sacrifices anymore to have kids.

00:09:45.240 So when you're dealing with below that level, I think a question that we need to ask ourselves,

00:09:49.080 when people say having kids is expensive, what they mean is having kids is expensive

00:09:52.440 without significantly changing my lifestyle.

00:09:54.200 My wife and I, we could be earning a lot more money than we do.

00:09:56.360 But we live in like a farm, you know?

00:09:58.680 And that is because it was cheaper to raise kids out there.

00:10:01.560 And so the cultural groups that do have high fertility, you know,

00:10:04.600 often there's these religious, people call them religious extremist weirdos or whatever, right?

00:10:09.080 Like they're weird and that they are different from the urban monoculture

00:10:12.440 and that they are different from the dominant cultures in our society.

00:10:14.680 And that's how we judge weirdness.

00:10:17.480 And one of the things that makes them weird is choosing lifestyles that are significantly

00:10:23.960 below the lifestyle they could live based on what they earn, because they believe there are

00:10:27.640 things more important than showing off how great they are to the world.

00:10:32.680 It's like a more selfless culture is what you're saying.

00:10:34.920 Absolutely.

00:10:35.480 Can I...

00:10:36.040 Right?

00:10:36.280 Absolutely.

00:10:38.200 Who said something?

00:10:39.240 Can I bring up something that you said earlier on, obviously about, obviously,

00:10:42.920 when you're bringing in kids, you want to obviously give them the best and stuff.

00:10:47.400 What about the people who obviously do have kids and they can't give them the best?

00:10:51.800 That was a choice.

00:10:53.240 Yeah, I do.

00:10:53.800 And yeah, obviously, it is a choice.

00:10:55.560 They can't give them the best.

00:10:56.520 These kids are suffering.

00:10:57.960 But what is the best?

00:10:59.560 Because, you know, we have all this money in the West

00:11:02.840 and we really have a higher standard of living than like any time in human history,

00:11:06.520 but people are more depressed than ever.

00:11:08.760 And even like, there's a clip that just went viral of Kim Kardashian,

00:11:12.440 her daughter, North, right?

00:11:14.840 And North is talking about how she prefers to be at Kanye's house.

00:11:18.520 I saw that.

00:11:19.080 Because at Kanye's house, there's no chef.

00:11:21.720 There's no...

00:11:22.520 She's like, I don't like the chef.

00:11:23.720 I want to get...

00:11:24.200 There's no security there.

00:11:25.320 I just want to go to dad's house.

00:11:26.760 Yeah.

00:11:27.160 So it's like, you know, these kids can have everything,

00:11:30.040 but if they don't have what matters, then they care.

00:11:32.840 Can I say something, guys?

00:11:34.360 Can I say something?

00:11:35.160 Yeah.

00:11:35.720 I grew up in Jamaica in like the countryside.

00:11:39.080 So it was very poor.

00:11:40.120 I saw knife crime, violence, sex.

00:11:42.600 Just my parents used to sell drugs so I could eat all this type of stuff.

00:11:46.280 My dad was a fisherman.

00:11:47.320 Like we was poor.

00:11:48.680 We didn't have much.

00:11:49.480 We lived in little board houses, all of that.

00:11:52.040 And I had the best upbringing ever.

00:11:54.600 My parents are Rastafarians.

00:11:55.880 They used to take me to the hot springs, the healing waters.

00:11:58.680 They're taking me to all like the Rastafarian events. 0.83

00:12:01.480 I was living my best life.

00:12:03.240 All I remembered from my childhood was getting fish,

00:12:07.800 like basically cooking with my dad on the coal stove outside.

00:12:11.480 We're going to the hot springs, them dancing together.

00:12:13.880 That's all I remember was the time spent.

00:12:16.280 So I just feel like the Western world,

00:12:18.200 we just have so much stimuli being thrown at us that we just,

00:12:21.240 we're confused about every single aspect of our lives from down to our gender,

00:12:24.760 when we're meant to have kids, our bodies,

00:12:26.680 where it just makes things so complicated.

00:12:29.400 When you return to a simpler life, if you unlearn to learn,

00:12:32.600 return to a more simpler form of living,

00:12:35.400 you realize that there's so much joy in just actually having love.

00:12:38.840 And you, and you, you and your parents both around, right?

00:12:42.840 Now.

00:12:43.240 Yeah, no, like growing up, right?

00:12:44.520 Yeah.

00:12:44.920 So who's richer?

00:12:46.760 Like you who might have grown up and you said it was poor,

00:12:50.120 really poor, but your parents were around or,

00:12:53.960 you know, Kim's kids where they see their dad twice a month

00:12:57.400 and they don't really see their mom either because there's a nanny watching them.

00:13:01.320 Yeah.

00:13:01.560 I didn't have that.

00:13:02.280 I had both devoted parents.

00:13:04.360 But I'm saying like, who, who's in a better off position, really?

00:13:07.000 Um, I think they're just both equal.

00:13:09.080 I just didn't see any difference.

00:13:10.360 What do you mean better off position?

00:13:11.800 I think you're so comparing Kim.

00:13:14.600 I'm saying, I'm saying, I would argue that the kid with both of their parents involved

00:13:19.800 is in a better position than the one that has money.

00:13:23.240 I agree.

00:13:23.800 And so much time and especially like in the West.

00:13:26.120 Sorry.

00:13:26.680 Yeah, yeah, especially in the West.

00:13:29.160 There's so many times where they, we equate money can replace parents and it, and it can't.

00:13:35.800 It's neglect.

00:13:36.760 You feel neglected and abandoned when you don't have them, but you have the material.

00:13:42.760 Like kids, no offense, like if you notice, like if you give kids money and stuff like that,

00:13:47.160 they don't seem as grateful compared to when you actually give them. 0.92

00:13:49.160 I know they're brats, they're rich. 1.00

00:13:51.640 If you want to see messed up kids, look at the kids of rich people. 0.62

00:13:54.520 Like, if you want to see that the thing that you can always give your kids is yourself.

00:14:01.160 Yeah.

00:14:01.640 And, and, and there are always going to be competing interests from that because society,

00:14:05.480 you know, this is, I love capitalism, but the one bad thing about capitalism is it can price an

00:14:10.280 individual exactly, exactly the minimum amount it needs to pay them to not spend time on their kids,

00:14:15.800 on their family.

00:14:16.920 And so remember, you know, yeah, just, just be aware that this system, it's going to try

00:14:21.720 to take you away from your family and, and you are the most important thing they have.

00:14:25.800 And these traditions, I love you talk about growing up Rastafarian and these traditions

00:14:29.800 that they had were so important to you and the traditions that you build for your kids.

00:14:33.960 You know, I think a lot of us, we come from backgrounds now where we feel we don't have a

00:14:37.080 connection to our ancestors anymore or our traditions.

00:14:40.440 And that can mean work with your spouse and build new ones, you know, if you have to,

00:14:45.000 because this matters to kids.

00:14:46.600 It matters to them.

00:14:47.240 Yeah.

00:14:47.800 It matters to their kids.

00:14:48.680 So it goes back to our culture though, because when you, when I speak to, again,

00:14:52.200 going back to speaking to women, right, when I speak to women and I ask them like, okay, 0.66

00:14:56.760 so if a guy tells you he's got two, three, four kids, what do you say?

00:15:01.400 Usually they say, well, I'm not interested, even if he's got one.

00:15:04.040 Yeah.

00:15:04.520 And then, and then he tells me that there's, there's a problem with our culture.

00:15:08.360 You know, we look down on that.

00:15:10.360 And, and I personally don't, if I'm speaking to a girl, she says, look, I've got two kids.

00:15:14.360 I think that's a beautiful thing.

00:15:15.320 Yeah, but that's because you've got kids though.

00:15:17.160 That's because you've got kids.

00:15:18.200 I don't have kids.

00:15:18.840 I've never had kids.

00:15:19.480 I thought you said you had two sons.

00:15:21.320 I got two sons.

00:15:22.040 It's me.

00:15:22.440 I got two sons.

00:15:22.920 It's not the kid.

00:15:23.560 It's all the other stuff that I deal with.

00:15:25.720 What do you, welcome.

00:15:26.360 I think it's beautiful.

00:15:26.920 I've never had kids though.

00:15:27.960 Welcome to the show.

00:15:28.920 What's your name?

00:15:29.640 Ty.

00:15:30.200 Ty, what do you think?

00:15:31.240 Do, do women owe society children? 1.00

00:15:33.960 Oh, that's a strong question.

00:15:36.760 As I look around the room, that's a strong question.

00:15:40.200 Do women owe society kids? 1.00

00:15:44.200 In my opinion, women are very different. 1.00

00:15:47.720 Okay.

00:15:48.360 So in different situations, you're going to come across different, I guess, mentalities.

00:15:52.520 So for me, depending on the person, you're not really owe anyone anything, in my opinion.

00:15:58.200 That's my opinion.

00:15:59.480 You don't, you know, do men owe it to society to be productive?

00:16:03.240 No.

00:16:03.880 No, no.

00:16:04.360 If they choose to not be.

00:16:06.280 Have you seen the consequences of unproductive men and what they have on society?

00:16:09.560 Like if we choose not to be productive, what is the consequences?

00:16:12.120 Well, the consequences, we ruin society.

00:16:13.640 It's like, you know, Chris Rock has that joke.

00:16:15.160 If you're outside at 1 p.m. in a neighborhood and moms are walking strollers, you're a nice neighborhood.

00:16:18.760 If you're outside a neighborhood at 1 p.m. and dudes are working out, you're in danger.

00:16:21.880 So you would say that every man that is not being productive at this present moment

00:16:27.240 or never has a child, they are just...

00:16:29.880 No, not.

00:16:30.520 The child thing is a little, like that's a few steps ahead.

00:16:33.000 I'd say that a man who's not being productive or not taking steps towards being productive,

00:16:37.960 he's not building society.

00:16:39.080 And it is a man's job to build. 1.00

00:16:40.520 Like a man always has to be building something. 0.57

00:16:42.680 Otherwise, a man becomes a danger to himself and society.

00:16:44.920 And we see that, you know, represented in the preponderance of, you know, criminals, for example.

00:16:48.440 And you see in countries that have high unemployment rates, you see a lot of very negative correlations with that.

00:16:53.480 But the question, you know, the reason that I postulated that earlier is because like

00:16:56.920 for a woman to be able to reach her potential to have kids, she needs a man who's reaching his potential. 1.00

00:17:02.600 And a man has to lead.

00:17:03.480 And that's why a man has to lead.

00:17:04.520 And I also think there's a reason why we look down on the homeless like bum crackheads down the street. 0.99

00:17:11.000 Like that aren't doing anything.

00:17:12.360 They're not paying anything.

00:17:13.480 Like they're not contributing to society. 0.96

00:17:15.320 There's a reason why they're considered losers in society.

00:17:18.760 I don't look at them as losers though.

00:17:20.040 I don't judge people.

00:17:22.040 Okay, I'm not saying you personally, but I'm saying as a society, do we tend to put crackheads on a pedestal?

00:17:27.800 No.

00:17:28.360 No.

00:17:29.000 Do we tend to say grow up and be home?

00:17:31.880 Yeah, I get that.

00:17:33.000 That's the point.

00:17:33.800 They're not losers.

00:17:34.760 But I mean, I think if you're not doing anything.

00:17:37.480 It depends.

00:17:38.280 It's not even just homeless people.

00:17:40.120 It's guys who drive buses or bin men. 0.99

00:17:42.040 We don't put them on pedestals either.

00:17:43.880 We actually look down on men.

00:17:45.240 Unfortunately, I don't like I think if you have a job that contributes to society, I think that's fine.

00:17:50.200 But I do think you owe your society to be a productive member of society.

00:17:55.320 And if women aren't going to go down the kids route, like I think they owe the same exact thing. 1.00

00:18:00.200 Yeah, I agree with that.

00:18:01.400 Yeah.

00:18:01.480 I absolutely agree with that.

00:18:02.600 I just want to say, sorry, sorry to interject.

00:18:04.360 Um, in terms of owing to society, etc.

00:18:08.600 My thing is if you're not doing anything or contribute, contributing towards the society in any way can be anything.

00:18:14.680 I personally think you deserve nothing.

00:18:16.920 And I don't mean that in a horrible way.

00:18:19.080 Yeah, I don't mean a horrible way.

00:18:20.760 You need to put something in to get something back.

00:18:23.400 Yeah.

00:18:23.960 And that's how it's always been.

00:18:24.920 The cause and effect.

00:18:25.880 The greatest lie, I think, this urban monoculture I talk about, this dominant culture in our society tells people,

00:18:31.400 is that if you do whatever you want, whatever you want to do it, that you're going to be happy and fulfilled.

00:18:36.440 You will not.

00:18:37.560 Our biologies are wonderfully structured.

00:18:40.280 Perhaps God made us this way.

00:18:42.280 But when you do whatever you want, whenever you want to do it, a hollowness builds inside you.

00:18:46.280 When you are out there working to make the world a better place,

00:18:50.200 you will feel a type of happiness that cannot be achieved from anything else.

00:18:55.080 True happiness is only achieved by effectively living your value system.

00:18:59.880 And more specifically, that leads to some form of suffering through growth.

00:19:03.960 And so therefore, and this is the Viktor Frankl argument, right?

00:19:06.680 So very cool.

00:19:10.840 So the next question, I'm going to read Super Chats really quick.

00:19:16.200 Guys, make sure you like the video.

00:19:18.120 That's the most important metric that YouTube uses to push out these streams.

00:19:21.720 Okay.

00:19:22.520 Um, Bryden says, the true question is what brings you meaning?

00:19:27.000 Thane Mattress says, classic case of a suit,

00:19:30.760 maketh? 0.90

00:19:31.720 Is that a suit?

00:19:32.280 A suit maketh a man? 0.94

00:19:33.720 I've never.

00:19:34.680 Oh, a classic case of a suit maketh a man.

00:19:38.200 Good.

00:19:38.680 Make it not.

00:19:39.400 Oh, wait.

00:19:40.040 Sorry.

00:19:40.440 Sorry.

00:19:41.160 I've never heard of it.

00:19:42.520 It's a classic case of a suit maketh a man not.

00:19:45.560 Good Frank Castle.

00:19:47.960 I have no idea what you just said.

00:19:49.080 Yeah, that's how confusing it is.

00:19:50.840 No, you still read that room.

00:19:51.880 I forgot.

00:19:52.440 I read it right.

00:19:53.240 It's a little, it's a little joke.

00:19:54.360 There's a quote, the suit maketh a man.

00:19:55.800 He's saying a suit maketh a man not.

00:19:57.160 Yeah.

00:19:57.480 Oh, same.

00:19:58.040 Oh, I totally, I totally, I totally got it.

00:20:00.920 Glenn Lawrence, oh God, here comes the servant leader talk.

00:20:07.880 Juan Figuera, as a man, as a man and father of 3, 21, 7, 5, we want children, but the laws

00:20:15.960 are unfair and the risk 18 to 25 years of child support to reproduce the female market is unstable

00:20:23.080 to risk this amount of effort, paying, paying, I can't read your username, I'm sorry.

00:20:30.600 Women that don't have children are super lucius, a society strictly all men can do everything 0.99

00:20:38.520 except have children.

00:20:40.120 Cruxy says, Simone and Malcolm, I appreciate your gene selection, work related.

00:20:45.400 Uh oh, selective.

00:20:47.400 Uh oh.

00:20:48.520 Uh oh.

00:20:49.560 Related, please recommend Pearl to talk to Edward Dutton.

00:20:53.160 Uh oh, I don't get what's the uh oh.

00:20:56.680 It's the spicy stuff, yeah.

00:20:58.680 Okay.

00:20:59.320 He has greatly helped my understanding of why our world is in the current state.

00:21:04.120 Emily Ziegler, thanks to your pearls of wisdom, I've been finding more and more ways to serve

00:21:08.920 and submit to my husband.

00:21:10.600 My husband has been the happiest man and my family is thriving ever since.

00:21:14.520 We love you, Pearl.

00:21:15.880 Thank you, Emily.

00:21:16.600 Uh, see, see, see, don't, I can't, guys, I can't say your new usernames.

00:21:22.840 Talk about, um, talk about the dancing in rail Israelis on 9-11. 0.98

00:21:30.280 Oh my god.

00:21:31.320 I don't, I don't know what that is.

00:21:33.880 Just about to go down.

00:21:34.600 Oh, oh, sorry.

00:21:35.800 That's from the Zerka thing, I think. 0.99

00:21:37.880 Um, anyways, um, I think that's all the super.

00:21:42.840 How do you guys think a cat would answer that question?

00:21:44.760 Do women owe it to society to have kids? 1.00

00:21:46.360 Like if I, if I wasn't a human, if I was just a group of cats sitting here in a suit, pretending to be a person,

00:21:50.920 what I, what, what would I, what would I say about the subject?

00:21:53.640 They would be irrational.

00:21:55.000 Huh?

00:21:56.040 Yeah, what would I answer?

00:21:57.240 Meow.

00:21:58.440 How would you know?

00:21:59.000 Meow. 0.94

00:21:59.640 Cats would just say, please shut up and give me some tuna right now. 1.00

00:22:02.600 They'd be like, nah, girls don't have any kids, it's cool. 0.99

00:22:06.440 Cats do not care, do not care.

00:22:07.480 You know, I think there's a pretty, pretty strong, like, uh, correlation between the cat population

00:22:12.120 and the amount of single childless women, isn't there? 0.86

00:22:13.880 No?

00:22:14.920 I'll look at the study.

00:22:16.520 Well, that's the truth of the cat lady. 0.98

00:22:17.800 Some people use animals to masturbate the instinct to have kids. 0.97

00:22:20.920 Um, no, it's true. 0.88

00:22:23.480 They, they, and this is done both because they don't have some, sometimes it's not their choice.

00:22:27.720 You know, sometimes they just end up single without kids for whatever reason,

00:22:30.600 but there are ways that you can, this is why they call it their baby, right? 0.99

00:22:33.400 Can we just, can we just expand on that masturbating your instincts? 0.99

00:22:36.680 So if I smell delicious cupcakes, but I don't eat them, am I just masturbating my instincts? 0.99

00:22:40.680 Well, what I mean by that is in the same way when an individual masturbates, 1.00

00:22:44.680 they are taking sex and they are fake having sex. 0.98

00:22:47.800 I just, I just love the phrase. 0.98

00:22:48.360 They are fulfilling an instinct by looking at a simulacrum, uh, of, of the thing that

00:22:53.640 they really want, um, with a kid or a little dog, it looks like a little child.

00:22:58.680 It's got the big eyes.

00:22:59.560 It's sweet to you, but it doesn't require real sacrifice.

00:23:02.840 Not at the same level, uh, in the same way that porn doesn't require the, the real,

00:23:06.680 real sacrifice of going out there and impressing a person.

00:23:08.920 A cat's a lot cheaper than a baby.

00:23:12.040 Well, it is, and porn's a lot cheaper than a date.

00:23:14.600 You just haven't seen a fat enough cat. 0.54

00:23:18.520 I challenge that.

00:23:20.360 I think men need to desexualize themselves though.

00:23:22.920 I think that a corn, I think it's, it's, it's definitely not a good thing for men.

00:23:27.560 We need to stop it.

00:23:28.440 Personally, myself, I've been practicing, um, um, you know, semen retention.

00:23:33.240 Yeah.

00:23:33.800 And I feel so much more energized.

00:23:37.080 Honestly, I'm just like, even like, I just think differently.

00:23:39.480 I just get up in the morning without no coffee, just active.

00:23:41.800 That's a good thing.

00:23:42.600 But we need to desexualize our minds.

00:23:44.040 I think as men, we, that's something that we owe to society.

00:23:46.680 I think women should actually stop first because the more we keep giving out the nuni, 1.00

00:23:50.200 what do you think these men are going to do?

00:23:51.640 Say no.

00:23:52.760 Listen, if I was a dude and I heard here's free ting on a flat toe, I'm taking it.

00:23:56.440 So this kind of goes back to, this kind of goes back to, um, you know,

00:24:01.240 this question as to what women in general owe society. 0.99

00:24:05.080 Right.

00:24:05.960 And, you know, one question I had is do women owe society modesty? 0.99

00:24:11.880 Yes, because now, now, now I'm starting to see.

00:24:16.600 So I went to Vegas, um, for like a collab, like a couple months back and I couldn't believe

00:24:23.480 I was walking down the street and I saw women with their boobs out and just stickers 1.00

00:24:28.520 on their boobs walking in public. 0.93

00:24:31.160 This is legal there. 0.96

00:24:32.920 And I thought to myself, you know, they're, they're, how is this not public nudity?

00:24:41.720 Why are women wanting to do this? 1.00

00:24:43.160 Well, you're not arrested.

00:24:43.960 This used to be a thing where you get arrested for public.

00:24:46.440 Yeah. 0.92

00:24:46.840 And now they can literally have stickers on their boobs. 1.00

00:24:49.480 So it kind of bears the question, do women owe society modesty? 0.90

00:24:54.120 And you, you seem to want to go, so go ahead.

00:24:55.960 I want her to go because she had a long rant about this. 0.97

00:24:58.920 We were, we were reading your tweets about this this afternoon.

00:25:01.400 Oh, we're going to, we're going to judge the pictures later too.

00:25:03.960 Oh boy.

00:25:04.920 But go ahead, go first.

00:25:05.880 Yeah.

00:25:06.040 I mean, you know, a lot of what we're looking at is, um, there's a problem with society in

00:25:10.600 which every woman, despite her age, wants to look like she's 20, but she can't pull it off 1.00

00:25:14.840 after a certain age.

00:25:15.560 I'm just sorry.

00:25:16.440 So part of it's, you know, you have to realize after a certain age, you can't pull it off and you

00:25:20.280 have to actually want to desire to be something else, maybe to be a mentor, maybe to be a

00:25:24.200 professional, maybe to be a mother. 0.99

00:25:25.960 And there are appropriate outfits for all of that.

00:25:28.520 But we also have to remember that like, honestly, like some women, unfortunately don't have that 1.00

00:25:33.720 much to offer.

00:25:35.000 And so they marry people who want them to flaunt it. 1.00

00:25:39.800 They, they, they become trophy wives and they kind of have to dress that way. 1.00

00:25:43.480 So I do think that there is a place for an immodest woman, even a mother, even a woman of a 1.00

00:25:47.640 certain age to dress in an extremely sexualized and showy matter.

00:25:51.640 Because frankly, that's her job at that point.

00:25:54.200 She has nothing else.

00:25:55.000 That is her way to be productive for society. 1.00

00:25:56.840 And where, where would she do that? 0.98

00:25:58.440 Like, what are the rules?

00:25:59.080 Wherever the hell her husband wants her to.

00:26:00.520 So that-

00:26:01.640 See, I don't know.

00:26:02.440 I don't know because I'm thinking like if, I think that some of these outfits,

00:26:07.240 it's like wrong because there are kids around and you can't just, 0.87

00:26:11.000 even if your husband wants you to dress like a hooker. 1.00

00:26:13.480 Okay. 0.99

00:26:13.800 So I grew up in a super progressive society where like,

00:26:17.000 I thought that a wedding was getting naked and wearing masks in the woods and dancing around.

00:26:20.920 Right.

00:26:21.160 So I grew up around a lot of-

00:26:22.680 Wait, wait.

00:26:23.000 Oh, wow.

00:26:23.960 I grew up in Silicon Valley.

00:26:25.240 I don't, is that normal?

00:26:27.160 In Silicon Valley it was, naked sweat lodge, the masks, the dancing, the whatever.

00:26:31.480 Right.

00:26:31.720 I'm very, very progressive.

00:26:33.160 Right.

00:26:33.560 Okay.

00:26:34.040 So, you know, and I, so you could say that I grew up as a kid around debauchery.

00:26:38.120 Um, but it didn't screw me up at all.

00:26:40.760 Um, I actually, I, I, I lost my virginity with my husband.

00:26:44.840 Um, it's, uh, I don't think that these things necessarily hurt people.

00:26:49.160 I don't think that nudity or sexualization hurts people.

00:26:51.480 In fact, it made me kind of blind to it.

00:26:53.240 I mean, the fact that I, at age like 15, went to burning man and I swear to you,

00:26:57.240 I didn't see anyone use any drugs somehow.

00:26:59.800 Um, so I, I don't think I, I, at least anecdotally, it doesn't mean you weren't using them.

00:27:04.360 You know, I still, I've never been high except for doctor's offices, which is super fun.

00:27:10.280 Of course.

00:27:10.760 Yeah.

00:27:11.080 Um, but yeah, I just, uh, anecdotally and among the people, the peers that I grew up around,

00:27:16.440 um, I, I just, uh, in that progressive culture actually grew up around a bunch of prudes, frankly.

00:27:22.440 I think what you're saying, Simone, is that when women dress that way, it's because they have 1.00

00:27:25.800 nothing else to offer a women dress in a way that shows what they think they have to offer to society. 1.00

00:27:31.400 And if they don't feel, and a lot of women feel very disempowered in our society, 0.99

00:27:34.200 and they do feel that they have nothing else to offer, or this is their primary asset.

00:27:37.560 But presumably as a woman ages, because this asset deteriorates so quickly in terms of its market 1.00

00:27:43.560 value, most women who have anything else to offer, switch what they're selling to like, 1.00

00:27:48.200 I'm a good mother or I'm a good chef or something like that.

00:27:51.720 Um, whereas, uh, it's a really negative sign to, to an

00:27:55.400 individual if they're still showing this and they're like 40 or 30.

00:27:58.120 But when you're younger, uh, something to think about as a woman is the type of woman, 0.95

00:28:02.280 not the type of guy you want to have sex with you, the type of guy you want to marry you. 0.80

00:28:05.480 Is he going to be attracted when you're showing all this out?

00:28:08.200 Or is he going to look at that and think, oh, this is not what I want in a wife?

00:28:11.960 Because I think that a lot of women, they get confused. 1.00

00:28:15.080 They say, oh, when I do this, guys hit on me.

00:28:17.720 When I do this, guys sleep with me.

00:28:19.560 And then they then think that that's the type of thing that will get a guy to marry them.

00:28:23.000 But these are two different things that you're courting for.

00:28:25.720 Have we created a problem, though, as men?

00:28:27.080 Yeah, we have.

00:28:27.720 Hell yeah, we have.

00:28:29.720 Yes, thank you.

00:28:30.280 And what I wanted to say was women have been sexualized since this big... 0.99

00:28:35.000 I remember my father being like, you know, my friends are coming around.

00:28:37.720 No, no, women sexualize themselves. 1.00

00:28:39.720 Women get naked. 1.00

00:28:41.720 No, no, I disagree. 1.00

00:28:43.480 I think that women will get naked far quicker than men will ask for sex. 0.99

00:28:47.880 And my proof of this is going to Vegas, those women are walking around naked. 1.00

00:28:53.320 Women walk around naked outside. 1.00

00:28:55.800 They walk around naked to work. 0.97

00:28:58.040 They take off their clothes more and more and more, far before men ask for sex. 0.92

00:29:02.440 But would we be still talking about this if a guy was walking with his top off?

00:29:06.600 We wouldn't, because women have been sexualized. 1.00

00:29:08.920 Men can walk out with a t-shirt on and no one says anything.

00:29:11.240 But who would they walk out with their slippers just hanging on the clothes?

00:29:13.960 No, no, no. We're talking about in Vegas when it's hot, it's a sunny day, and man's walking with no t-shirt.

00:29:18.920 Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:29:21.160 Are we really gonna have... 1.00

00:29:22.280 No shit. 0.99

00:29:22.840 Okay, okay. Are we really gonna... 0.99

00:29:25.560 How old are you?

00:29:26.520 28. 0.99

00:29:27.160 Okay, you're 28 and you don't understand why women have boobs. 0.98

00:29:31.720 That's why we have to have a shirt on. 0.97

00:29:34.120 No, no, no.

00:29:35.240 I feel like women from a young age, like what I was trying to say is when I was younger,

00:29:40.440 my father would say, you know, my friends are coming around, make sure you're, you know,

00:29:43.880 you're covered up.

00:29:44.600 Why on earth am I being told to cover up when people are coming around the house?

00:29:50.520 So you don't...

00:29:51.400 So he doesn't look like a terrible father.

00:29:54.920 No, but can I not wear shorts and a t-shirt? 1.00

00:29:58.440 So you don't grow up to be a whore. 1.00

00:30:00.760 But do we have to be covered from head to toe to not be sexualized? 0.99

00:30:05.800 When men come over, they coming from a background where I've seen men coming to people's homes

00:30:10.760 and they abuse certain people's children, including me, obviously not to knock them out, 0.52

00:30:14.840 but you might touch me, but it's like, no, seriously, black eyes, everything.

00:30:19.880 The reason...

00:30:20.840 Sorry, sorry about that.

00:30:22.840 When men or other uncles, all this come into your house, you're a young girl,

00:30:27.640 your mom and dad should teach you modesty.

00:30:29.400 It doesn't mean you have to lose your sexy when you grow up.

00:30:31.240 I lost my sexy.

00:30:32.440 I'm sexy without having to speak.

00:30:34.120 You know what I mean?

00:30:36.120 But it's like, when you're a young kid, you have to cover up.

00:30:38.760 You need to learn decency, modesty, understand how to dress when people come over.

00:30:42.280 People are predators.

00:30:43.480 Your parents can't fully protect you all the time.

00:30:45.480 So you have to know how to protect yourself.

00:30:46.840 Of course.

00:30:47.240 And the first way to do that is by dressing properly.

00:30:49.480 I used to be at home in short shorts, crop tops,

00:30:51.800 but I knew if a visitor's coming, I dress appropriately.

00:30:54.600 It's just a respect for yourself, for the people that are coming over and for your family.

00:30:57.640 So should the little boy cover up when the female's coming out? 0.99

00:30:59.880 What's he going to wear?

00:31:00.840 He's not in the phone.

00:31:01.640 No, no, no, no, no.

00:31:02.600 But like, you might be a shorts and a t-shirt off.

00:31:04.360 Because boys and girls are different.

00:31:05.800 Why can't people just understand that?

00:31:06.840 No, but why is women sexualized? 1.00

00:31:08.120 And why is men not sexualized? 0.97

00:31:10.440 Because women are sexy. 1.00

00:31:11.000 No, that's not an answer for me.

00:31:12.680 Over here, even as a man, I've got to say, I think you've got a point.

00:31:15.720 Thank you.

00:31:16.120 Because at the same time, I know you're saying, okay, well, it doesn't matter.

00:31:19.880 You keep on saying people, but it is the influence of men.

00:31:23.240 Of course.

00:31:24.440 Do you say you have to protect yourself?

00:31:26.440 Sorry, sorry.

00:31:27.480 Why do we have to protect ourselves?

00:31:28.600 No, I'll explain to you.

00:31:29.720 I'll explain to you.

00:31:30.600 In all of nature, there are things.

00:31:34.520 As many of you know, I was just banned on TikTok.

00:31:39.400 And we are demonetized on a daily basis on this platform.

00:31:43.880 If you want to help, please consider sending a super thanks below.

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JustPearlyThings - November 06, 2023

Pearl KICKED OUT A Man from Her Show for The First Time.

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