JustPearlyThings - August 03, 2023


Pearl SAVAGELY DEBUNKS Body Positivity


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2,238

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260

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In this episode, we discuss the obesity epidemic in our society and how it affects our mental health. We also talk about our thoughts on whether or not we should shame people who are overweight and how we can encourage people to lose weight.

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00:00:00.000 Why are we going to create a community of feeling good, being obese,
00:00:04.760 and knowing there's so much health challenges behind it?
00:00:06.700 My brother, my brother, there's a lot of people.
00:00:08.680 Let him finish this thought.
00:00:09.420 I'm not talking about the mentality, as I say.
00:00:11.660 Mentality.
00:00:12.500 Why are we promoting obesity, knowing there's so much health challenges behind it?
00:00:17.520 That's like you're saying, go have sex with everyone at all condom.
00:00:20.700 But that's what's being promoted.
00:00:22.440 Yeah, that's terrible.
00:00:23.020 And it's none of our concern.
00:00:23.620 Well, we should be wearing condoms.
00:00:25.000 Don't bother us.
00:00:26.520 But that doesn't get brought into discussion.
00:00:28.100 And for me, I just feel like, I know what you're saying, but at the same time.
00:00:32.700 You wouldn't tell your brother, listen, go have sex with that girl without a condom. 1.00
00:00:36.480 You would say, bro, make sure and wear your robbers.
00:00:38.880 Of course.
00:00:39.580 You would tell your boy that, right?
00:00:41.520 You have to.
00:00:42.420 You don't want to hear a boy coming home at STD.
00:00:44.980 Well, you've got to look at your health.
00:00:47.240 Yeah, you've got to protect yourself.
00:00:48.800 That's what I'm saying.
00:00:49.440 Of course.
00:00:49.740 It's protecting everybody else.
00:00:51.580 Yeah, but my thing is, she's allowed to use social media. 0.85
00:00:54.400 How she uses social media, it's up to her.
00:00:58.440 It's freedom of speech.
00:00:59.560 It's freedom of choice.
00:01:00.920 It's free will.
00:01:01.820 If she feels good, good for her.
00:01:03.540 Yeah, but that's why I think it's more important that we shame it.
00:01:07.940 I don't think we should say, definitely not shame it.
00:01:09.600 And say, wait, wait, wait.
00:01:10.240 That's what creates mental health. 0.96
00:01:11.820 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, and say, and say, put the rolls away.
00:01:15.860 We don't want to see that.
00:01:17.780 Put it away.
00:01:19.020 Go get on the treadmill.
00:01:20.320 Lose weight, wait, wait.
00:01:21.620 Lose some weight, and then come back.
00:01:24.980 My mom used to tell me, and everyone's going to say I was traumatized.
00:01:28.660 No, you're right.
00:01:29.400 Yeah, post the journey.
00:01:30.560 My mom used to tell me, and maybe everyone's going to say I was traumatized, that you have
00:01:35.220 to earn a bikini body. 1.00
00:01:36.560 And I believe that.
00:01:37.920 I really do.
00:01:38.860 And I think you should earn the right.
00:01:40.420 Some people don't want that, though.
00:01:41.760 It's up to them.
00:01:42.740 If they don't want to, you know.
00:01:44.460 I think we need to please stop talking about exceptions.
00:01:47.820 We want to talk about the rule.
00:01:49.560 I've said this.
00:01:50.280 I've said to friends that might be very overweight, like, I think you would have a better quality
00:01:55.360 of life.
00:01:55.720 I think you would enjoy it more.
00:01:57.380 That's as far as I'd go.
00:01:58.520 I would never shame them for it.
00:01:59.620 If that's still her choice, that's still her choice.
00:02:01.040 I'll do one more.
00:02:01.940 I'll have my overweight friends run up 21 flights of stairs with me. 0.99
00:02:06.920 I mean, if you're doing it in an encouraging way.
00:02:10.300 You're a bad man.
00:02:11.680 I think if we ask someone.
00:02:12.840 You can't do them things.
00:02:13.960 I think if we ask someone of that weight a question like.
00:02:16.440 No, I'm helpful.
00:02:17.780 What do you mean?
00:02:18.400 You can't do them things.
00:02:20.420 I think if you ask someone, do you want to lose weight?
00:02:23.060 90% of the answer, 95%, 98% of the answer will be yes.
00:02:28.920 What if they don't?
00:02:29.860 And I've been there.
00:02:31.000 I've been there.
00:02:31.520 I've been overweight.
00:02:31.840 You think they don't want to lose weight.
00:02:33.660 I'm just teasing.
00:02:35.700 But also, pal, so when I was a teenager, because I'm very tall, when I first had a growth span
00:02:41.600 height, I was very, very skinny and I couldn't really gain weight.
00:02:45.120 It was extremely hard for me and I hated it.
00:02:47.080 I've been through that.
00:02:47.980 Girls and stuff, yeah, would make comments and stuff and it made me feel so shit.
00:02:53.600 So I feel like there's empathy that comes from that, isn't it?
00:02:56.260 Isn't that?
00:02:56.760 I did obviously try and gain weight, so I don't know if that's the difference.
00:02:59.320 But it was so hard.
00:03:01.900 I used to get talk until I cried.
00:03:03.520 They call me bagaboons.
00:03:04.680 But this is what she's saying.
00:03:05.960 I know how you feel.
00:03:06.500 She's saying, she's saying, but basically bullying somebody encourages you to be a better
00:03:12.000 person or change your ways or whatever to how they think should be acceptable.
00:03:19.960 There are different people.
00:03:21.060 There's the people that could drive the mindset to get better.
00:03:25.620 Yeah, but that's a different way of speaking.
00:03:27.100 There are the people as well that could.
00:03:27.840 Yeah, it's a different way of speaking.
00:03:29.100 It's a different way of speaking.
00:03:29.120 Bullying them could break down.
00:03:30.360 Exactly.
00:03:31.040 You can break them down really bad and they would not try to get better.
00:03:32.900 To say you're fat, blah, blah, blah, and you know.
00:03:34.460 Body shaming and bullying is not acceptable on any level.
00:03:37.180 Isn't body shaming to call a spade a spade to say you're fat?
00:03:41.140 You are fat.
00:03:42.420 Like you are fat.
00:03:43.320 It's not, it's not to be mean, but I mean, then once we, but it's like, wait, wait.
00:03:48.340 So it's like, how do we fix problems if we can't acknowledge they exist?
00:03:53.240 This is the problem with the delusion.
00:03:55.180 Wait, wait.
00:03:56.640 This is the problem with the delusion of modern women. 1.00
00:03:59.580 It's like, we can't even acknowledge that there's a problem.
00:04:02.280 How the hell do we fix it?
00:04:04.220 If we can't even say, hey, the problem is there.
00:04:07.220 Yeah, I am obese.
00:04:08.660 Then you can at least say, maybe I should eat less.
00:04:11.100 Maybe I should get on the treadmill.
00:04:12.680 But it's like tooth and nail.
00:04:14.860 I'm like pulling teeth here trying to say, yeah, this is a problem.
00:04:18.380 But why is it our problem to fix?
00:04:21.540 It's not your problem.
00:04:22.460 It's my problem to fix.
00:04:25.920 I think if we care about someone, it is okay to encourage them.
00:04:31.020 But we'll say, I think we'll have a better quality of life because of this, this, and this.
00:04:34.500 Because I guess it could be from a caring perspective.
00:04:36.960 But not shaming.
00:04:38.200 And because some people do still find them desirable.
00:04:40.400 We don't need to shame.
00:04:41.000 And also, what about the people, the minority that can't help it? 1.00
00:04:44.440 At least it makes them feel more comfortable.
00:04:46.100 I don't think we need it to go down to the shame inside.
00:04:48.060 Like, let's be honest.
00:04:48.800 Like, you would talk to someone about their obesity in the most respectful way ever.
00:04:54.020 Exactly.
00:04:54.500 In the health aspect.
00:04:56.220 And you'd say, I'm concerned.
00:04:57.620 Maybe think of that.
00:04:58.560 Of course.
00:04:59.240 Nobody's trying to shame anybody.
00:05:00.560 But that's all you can do.
00:05:01.700 It's down to that individual whether they want to change their ways or not.
00:05:04.000 Obese person, as I said, 98% of them want to lose weight. 1.00
00:05:08.880 They do want to lose weight.
00:05:10.280 If you talk to them, you ask them a question, do you want to lose weight?
00:05:12.420 They will say yes.
00:05:13.420 And they just don't know how to.
00:05:14.340 So I am not trying to stand up here and be like, oh, I am going to support you being obese.
00:05:19.040 Yeah.
00:05:19.280 I do think we should shame them off the internet, though.
00:05:23.020 I do.
00:05:23.960 I do.
00:05:24.440 No, no.
00:05:25.060 Yeah.
00:05:25.340 No, I don't think we should be promoting that to kids.
00:05:28.000 To be honest.
00:05:28.820 No, I think.
00:05:29.340 I think I disagree with.
00:05:30.400 Kids are on the internet.
00:05:32.340 Like, I don't think we should be promoting, like, fat chicks on the covers of magazines. 0.99
00:05:35.500 I don't think we should be promoting, yes, queen.
00:05:38.100 That's a good thing that you're obese.
00:05:39.940 Like, yeah, you do look good on social media.
00:05:42.040 There's kids on social media.
00:05:43.260 What messaging are we pushing?
00:05:44.340 And this is why a lot of women, they get work done. 1.00
00:05:49.160 And this is their example.
00:05:50.740 If you're going to push the narrative of you need to be perfect, then you're going to go do certain things to your body because of idolization.
00:05:59.160 But there are these women who are put in their journeys, though. 0.91
00:06:02.840 Let me respond to this, okay?
00:06:04.500 Women get work done because they're lazy. 1.00
00:06:07.780 Not necessarily.
00:06:08.820 Because some women lack in larger breasts or bigger bum. 1.00
00:06:13.100 And you don't want to do that to please the man or whatever.
00:06:15.560 You know what I'm saying?
00:06:16.460 Women, okay, sorry. 1.00
00:06:17.500 There's two reasons.
00:06:18.500 One, they want more attention.
00:06:20.520 And the attention that they got and that God gave them wasn't enough.
00:06:23.800 So they say, let me go get surgery so I can get more attention.
00:06:26.780 Because it's pushed.
00:06:27.740 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:06:28.900 I need you to wait for one second.
00:06:31.280 And the second reason is because they're lazy and they'd rather get a BBL than go to the gym.
00:06:35.720 I'm serious.
00:06:37.080 Like, they would rather.
00:06:37.860 Ask a question.
00:06:38.880 Nutrition is hard, right?
00:06:40.620 Nutrition is, like, the hardest part.
00:06:41.820 It varies, like 80% is so hard.
00:06:43.760 Yeah, it's so hard.
00:06:44.580 Nutrition is hard.
00:06:45.820 Working out every day is hard.
00:06:47.840 Getting a surgery is a cheat code.
00:06:51.200 To your point, though, I think that is why it's a good thing to celebrate uniqueness and differences.
00:06:55.520 Of course.
00:06:55.760 Because otherwise, everyone is pressurized to look the same way.
00:06:58.320 A certain way.
00:06:59.100 But my brother, look.
00:07:00.120 I had done personal training years ago.
00:07:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:02.680 You're a person training now.
00:07:03.700 Can you grow a bum?
00:07:05.720 Can you, you know, can you exercise and get the same bum as a BBL? 0.70
00:07:11.500 No, you can shape your bum.
00:07:12.580 You can shape your bum. 0.52
00:07:13.320 You can't grow your bum. 0.74
00:07:13.880 And you can lift it.
00:07:14.500 You can grow your glutes a bit.
00:07:16.120 A bit.
00:07:16.480 But it comes with body fat.
00:07:18.520 Right, okay.
00:07:19.460 So my point exactly is this world is pushing women in, like, front line to look a certain way, 0.90
00:07:27.940 to dress a certain way, and it makes little girls like my daughter to look at them and think,
00:07:33.160 I want to be like that.
00:07:34.120 I go down reverse down.
00:07:35.040 If I don't look like that, then I'm a piece of shit, and I'm not going to be desired by the man that I want or whatever.
00:07:41.600 And that's a wrong narrative.
00:07:43.200 It's not right.
00:07:44.300 The men aren't asking for this, though.
00:07:46.640 The men aren't asking for the Botox.
00:07:48.520 They're not asking for the BBLs.
00:07:50.320 They're not asking for the lip fillers.
00:07:51.940 Women just do that shit on their own. 1.00
00:07:53.920 And that's my point, but that gets glamorized.
00:07:55.680 Watch out when I reverse this, like, onto, yeah?
00:07:58.580 You just said that society is pushing women to do these things, right? 0.99
00:08:02.140 100%.
00:08:02.500 Right.
00:08:03.760 Then that's the reason why obesity shouldn't be on Instagram like that.
00:08:08.680 No, I hear you.
00:08:09.720 But what I'm saying...
00:08:10.900 It's the same thing.
00:08:11.300 No, but I'm talking about something different.
00:08:13.180 So I'm talking about the fact that a lot of these women... 1.00
00:08:16.840 He just made a really good point.
00:08:18.180 You should acknowledge that.
00:08:19.180 That was a really good point.
00:08:20.000 No, I understand.
00:08:21.200 But what she was doing online was self-love.
00:08:24.740 It had nothing to do with her body and how she looks.
00:08:27.220 And she wasn't like, oh, look at me.
00:08:28.720 I look like this.
00:08:29.520 She was just saying, look, I feel good or whatever she said.
00:08:33.200 But what I got from that video was self-love.
00:08:37.360 And a lot of people don't love themselves.
00:08:38.980 She wanted to say more about it.
00:08:39.960 I mean, do you understand what I'm saying?
00:08:41.440 It's self-love.
00:08:42.420 So if she's saying...
00:08:43.560 Okay, but again, to me, this goes to delusion.
00:08:46.580 If she says, I look good and she clearly doesn't, that is narcissism.
00:08:51.620 If you say that I feel good and there's no way in hell that you can be that big and feel good,
00:08:57.020 you're a liar. 0.97
00:08:58.220 You're a big liar.
00:08:59.820 Narcissistic and delusional.
00:09:00.800 You have a high visceral fat which is going to cause...
00:09:03.400 For narcissism, you also have to want to control people.
00:09:07.920 You also normally hurt people.
00:09:09.460 It's not just having self-love.
00:09:11.640 And also, when people are bullied and they are made to feel shit about themselves,
00:09:15.960 actually that can lead to narcissism because they have to be the best all the time.
00:09:19.660 And they're not kind or good to other people.
00:09:21.940 This is why I'm here to tell them the truth so I can help them.
00:09:24.600 Just saying.
00:09:25.600 Say it again.
00:09:26.240 This is why we're here to tell them the truth.
00:09:27.840 This is why I can help them.
00:09:28.780 Also, it might make, I said this before, it might make those minority people that can't help it feel better. 0.92
00:09:33.980 It's kind of like transgender. 0.95
00:09:35.340 Not everyone all having different identities.
00:09:37.320 Not everyone probably does need to relate to a different identity.
00:09:39.800 But I guess at least the minority that are probably born of the wrong chromosome.
00:09:44.540 But then look, that gets pushed more than obesity though.
00:09:47.980 That's a deep one.
00:09:48.960 That's a deep one.
00:09:49.960 Let's talk about that then.
00:09:51.120 Because you want to accept transgender and stuff, but you don't want to, you know. 1.00
00:09:55.740 I don't want to accept that either.
00:09:57.140 They scare me a bit.
00:09:58.220 Yeah, but apparently it's accepted.
00:10:01.960 Apparently we can't say nothing to them.
00:10:03.540 We can't have an opinion.
00:10:04.660 Oh, I'll say something.
00:10:06.200 You know, so let's talk about it, please.
00:10:08.800 I want to do a panel.
00:10:09.460 I do want to talk about it.
00:10:10.160 I do want to do a panel with some transgenders and I want to do a panel with just obese women so we can talk about these topics. 0.99
00:10:17.360 That would be very interesting.
00:10:18.300 Can you invite me please?