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- August 15, 2023
Pearl SAVAGELY Said THIS About Emotional Men
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Length
11 minutes
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208.38383
Word Count
2,464
Sentence Count
82
Misogynist Sentences
20
Hate Speech Sentences
20
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What do you guys think the biggest thing
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that men don't understand about women is
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and that women don't understand about men?
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Ooh.
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Maybe I feel like I, as a woman,
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don't understand how men portray their emotions.
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I find it hard to, like, if there was, like,
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I don't know how to explain it.
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Like, wait, come back to me.
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I need to word it in my head
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before I actually say it out loud.
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Is it sometimes, like, you don't understand?
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Like, does your boyfriend do something where...
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No, no, no.
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So, like, you've got to come back to me.
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I need to word it.
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I need to word it.
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I need to word it.
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That's fine.
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Yeah, sorry to cut you.
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So, when you were saying that,
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I was kind of thinking,
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rah, I know she's going to say something
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about what men being upset and showing their emotions.
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Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I feel like you're with me.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I can see where you're going with it still.
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And that's something what I would have said as well,
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like, in life.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Men tend to not, you know, show their emotions.
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As much as women.
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It's the alpha thing.
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Yeah.
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In a guy.
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Yeah.
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But I think women like a guy to be more open
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and show them their emotions.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You know what I'm saying?
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But I think as men,
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I think as how we grew, innit,
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some men don't grow with their dads.
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Yeah.
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Had mummy around.
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Yeah.
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So, man had to take that role
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and be in the stronger person.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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So, if dad was around
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and man was seeing man upset,
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then man might be a bit more open.
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But I don't know.
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My circumstance was different.
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My dad weren't around.
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Yeah.
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I understand.
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But my dad was there.
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Yeah.
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Do you know what I mean?
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But my dad passed away
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during so-and-so, I can't say.
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But, yeah, that.
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And after that, it's like,
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rah, I never had a relationship with him,
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but I still remember my dad
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and I remember all the things.
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But I wish he maybe was there
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at the start with my growing
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because it might have made me
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a different guy now.
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He taught you things you didn't know.
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Do you know what I'm saying?
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And the one thing was emotions
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because a lot of us
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keep boiling it up
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and we get angry
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and we don't want to show it
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because we feel weak.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean?
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But it's not a dickheading
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to cry, you understand?
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Or to be open
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and show your emotions.
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Do you know what I mean?
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I've had to learn the hard way
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in life with certain things anyway.
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So, I'm only talking from myself.
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Do you know what I mean?
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I was one of those guys
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who built up the anger
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and wanted to just let it out
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with bare shouting and script
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but not crying.
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But then I learned
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that crying is another healing.
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It's natural, yeah.
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It's a healing.
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I feel like people like you
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coming and talking about
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emotions being so acceptable
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in men is really important
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and I feel like it is,
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you're so right,
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like there's such a stigma
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around men having,
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like being able to be emotional
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or have like down days
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or, but I feel like now
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there's more and more positive
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role models coming out
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and who are kind of supporting that.
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I think there should be
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a stigma around men
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being emotional.
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Yeah.
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You know what?
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Yeah, yeah, I have to.
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Because I think we need
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strong men in society.
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Do you know what?
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I'm not saying like boil it up
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and don't talk to anybody
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but I actually like don't think
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men should be overly emotional,
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especially to women
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because women I feel like
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don't like it long term.
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Do you know, it's good.
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You know, so let me just cut
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and I was going to say something
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like conscious to what you say
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and that I think
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definitely in this day and age
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a lot of men
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who've been like
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just brought up
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by their mothers,
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single parents,
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by their mums.
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Like they're very emotional.
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And they've got
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like feminine traits
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because obviously
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they're getting bang up.
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By them.
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Yeah.
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So even when you were saying
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about the man,
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obviously I know
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that's new school business
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to me,
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like man making accounts
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to hit.
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Yeah, that's adulting.
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And I'm thinking,
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but that's kind of girl business.
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To me in my head,
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I'm thinking that's girly business.
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It is.
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But that's nowadays
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mans are doing
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all these kind of girly
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antics.
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I agree with Pearl on that one.
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Do you not think
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you can still be
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really, really masculine
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but just be like
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open to being
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a little bit
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in touch with your emotions
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as well?
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Yeah, but then
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I mean,
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it's a weird one
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because masculine
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Well, yes,
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if you're being
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like masculine
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and men
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and old school men
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it's not really
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showing your emotions
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like that
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because that's just
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a man.
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It doesn't mean
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you need to be
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like wearing your heart
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in your sleep
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all the time
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but like
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just being okay
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with not being okay.
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I think society
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brainwashes men
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to be women.
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And I think
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we always
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like it's really weird
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because once you see this
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you can't unsee it.
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It's always like
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the feminine way
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to do things
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is always assumed
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to be right.
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So like how women
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deal with problems
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that's like assumed
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to be correct
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in society
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like crying,
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being emotional
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like that's assumed
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to be the right way
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to deal with it.
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So it's like
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we have a generation
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of men
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that have been told
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to be women
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where and it's like
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it's really
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because the psychologists
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are mostly women
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the teachers
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are mostly women
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so it's like
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they raise men
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to be women
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but like the way men
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usually dealt with problems
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at least historically
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was aggression
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but like aggression
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is seen as bad
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like men fighting
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in the schoolyard
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that's seen
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as like a negative thing.
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I like you poorly man
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but you know
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they paint people
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that talk for themselves
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that have got confidence
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as a toxic trait
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as well
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in like social media
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people that are confident
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and talk up
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and have their opinions
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and have their
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strong viewpoints
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they create
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that kind of guy
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as toxic
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do you know what I mean?
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so yeah
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cocky
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arrogant
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toxic
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so a lot of
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a lot of guys
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don't
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are scared
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to be on true self
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because they're scared
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to get cancelled
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because they're getting cancelled
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women love cocky
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toxic men
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and I promise you
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from doing these shows
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oh I promise you
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it's always like
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the girl
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like sometimes
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like a girl
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will be arguing
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with a guy
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and saying he's wrong
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the whole show
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but after she's flirting
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with him
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and I'm like
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and so it's like
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it's like
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like girls say
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they don't like those traits
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but I think
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they genuinely do
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people like confident people
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yeah
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100%
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yeah
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if you're confident
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people are going to like that
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and you know what I think
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with this whole emotion thing
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these are
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everyone's just overly emotional
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yeah
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way too
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yeah
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but
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me I
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it's about keeping your emotions
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in check
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balance
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not being too overly happy
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or too overly sad
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you know what I mean
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having that
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yeah it's just about balance
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yeah
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that's where I find it
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and again
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a lot of men
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are going on to
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fair enough
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women are more emotional
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we know this
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but nowadays
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a lot of men
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are going over
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to that emotional side
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as well
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to me man
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needs to kind of
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pull back
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I think you can be emotional
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without being feminine
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though
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as a man
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like you can be a little bit
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you can just be
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like accept them
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move on
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deal with it in your way
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without having to like
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block it out
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and hide it
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or be feminine
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I don't know
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like a lot of
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some of these emotions
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they don't really
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benefit or help
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situations
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and that's why
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as a man
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we're not really
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that emotional
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because it doesn't
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make that much difference
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how would being emotional
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help a man survive
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historically
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it won't
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it won't
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exactly
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it won't
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it's going to get you
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in trouble
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for anything
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I don't agree to a stent
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I hear what you man
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are saying
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I won't personally
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say being emotional
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when I was saying
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being emotional
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is be emotional
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around everyone
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there's certain people
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to be emotional
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around
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do you feel me
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like if it's my brother
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my family
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people I'm close to me
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they can see that
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I'm not saying cry
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around everyone
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I'm not trying to tell
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them I'm be a baby
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do you understand
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I'm just saying
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with the emotional thing
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you've got to know
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who and who
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you're being emotional
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around
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so I hear what
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Pearlie's saying
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about yeah
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I feel like they
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should put a stigma
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in it
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but I get you
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but at the same time
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if the man
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ain't showing their
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emotions
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when are you going
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to then
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when someone's dead
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or when something's
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happening
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exactly
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that's right
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that's not life
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but it's always been life
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to be honest
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if we look at humans
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throughout history
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from an evolutionary
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perspective
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10% of our ancestors
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before
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what's it called
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in the hunter-gatherer days
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literally died
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from murder
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so how would being emotional
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help you survive
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back then
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when 10% of the people
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were dying from murder
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isn't that crazy
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so it's like
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men don't have any
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biological reason
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to be emotional
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so again
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we're women
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we have a biological
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reason to be emotional
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because
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if we bonded
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with the guy
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then we would get
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his resources
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so we have
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biological reasons
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why we're more
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emotional than men
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where men don't
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so
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and while
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we are in 2023
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and it is like
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a modern world
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we don't get rid
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of our biology
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so by encouraging
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men to be emotional
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it's like we're
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encouraging men
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to be women
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wow
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no
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I don't agree
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I don't believe
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that's what I'm saying
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that's what I don't
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you know why
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I can't agree
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you have to look around
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because crying
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crying for the right
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reasons is a healing
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bro
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you've got to cry
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to the right people
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you understand
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so where you're
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telling me
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if I cry
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it makes me weak
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or rah rah
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I've cried
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because now
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I've got over
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but she didn't say
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weak though
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no but I'm saying
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some people look
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at it as a different
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angle
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but personally
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you can't tell me
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I'm not crying
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and I must be
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dead
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because I'm marling
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this sounds bad
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you know
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this sounds bad
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but like
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I do think men
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that like cry
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are weaker
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see in general
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yeah
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no because
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think about
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I disagree
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I disagree
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but hear me out
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hear me out
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hear me out
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hear me out
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as to why
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if we have guy A
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that cries 10 times a month
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and guy B that cries 0 times a month
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who's stronger
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like I just think like
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I know there's exceptions
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but it's like
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let me ask that question
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what she just said
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yeah
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the guy say it again
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let me ask
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if guy A cries 10 times a month
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and guy B cries 0 times a month
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who's stronger
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I go gym
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every fucking day
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that guy there
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cannot do me nothing
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I'm definitely stronger
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than this done
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so there's nothing to do with
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oh whether
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do you cry 10 times a month
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no no
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but I'm saying
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it don't make you weaker
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if you cry
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talk into your mic
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oh sorry
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it doesn't make you weaker
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if you're crying
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this is what I'm trying to show
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the people then
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do you understand
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it's not a weak ting
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when you're crying
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it's a release ting
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it's what's happened
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and what you're going through
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it's emotions
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everyone's got feelings
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do you understand
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I agree with you
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it doesn't need to be
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one extreme or the other
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but I think men are human
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men have feelings
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men need to cry
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and if they don't
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let them out
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and it's not saying
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it's not saying
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they need to go on
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Instagram live
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and do it in front of everyone
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or they need to do it
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every single time they're out
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but if they don't
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they're going to bottle up
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those feelings
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they're going to get worse and worse
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but suicide rates are so high
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with men
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and this is why
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I would actually say
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that suicide rates
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are high with men
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because women ruin them
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financially
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and take away their children
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and the legal system
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and it's legal for them
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to do so
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I would say yeah
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like they zero out men
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at about 45
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when they've wasted 20
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or you not wasted
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but they've spent 20 years
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of their life
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building themselves up
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having a family
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and women just say
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I'm not feeling it today
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I'm going to take your children
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and have your shit
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I would say that's the real reason
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that suicide
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and we have a society
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of women telling men
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how to be
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like teaching men
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how to be women
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because it's like again
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at what point
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is the man
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like is the crying enough
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right
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at what point
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is he a strong man
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and I just think it's lying
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like the girls
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and no offense
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no offense to you
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not personally
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but I feel like as women
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like it sounds nice
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to say yeah
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cry to me
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however
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they do studies
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on this stuff
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and women lose respect
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for men
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when they see you cry
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and they lose attraction
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for you
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so it sounds nice
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for me to say yes
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cry in front of women
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but I'm being honest
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that's what I was going to say
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I was going to say that still
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I mean
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without Moojot
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I was going to say yes
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I don't care
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if I was like
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I don't want the
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to say yes
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I feel like
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I'm being honest
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because I mean
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I don't know
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I'm being honest
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yeah
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and it's not
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as long as you
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but I'm being honest
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because it's not
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anything
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because I'll make a
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surprise
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that still
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it's not
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I don't want to say yes
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there's no reason
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I don't want to say yes
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because you're saying yes
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I don't want to say yes
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especially if I don't know
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