JustPearlyThings - April 07, 2023


Pearl Uses Logic On A Feminist


Episode Stats


Length

9 minutes

Words per minute

177.02127

Word count

1,664

Sentence count

176

Harmful content

Misogyny

22

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Toxicity

21

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Hate speech

11

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Summary

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Feminism is a hate group? Are women sexualized at a young age? Are they sexualized too young? Is it a choice? Or is it just a fact of life? In this episode, we discuss these questions and more.

Transcript

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Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:01.000 What's your name?
00:00:02.000 Amel.
00:00:03.000 Sorry, Amel?
00:00:04.000 Yeah.
00:00:05.000 Amel, okay.
00:00:06.000 That's a pretty name.
00:00:08.000 What...
00:00:09.000 Okay, let me pull up.
00:00:11.000 So, my assertion today is that I think feminism is a hate group. 0.99
00:00:14.000 Yeah.
00:00:15.000 And a hate group is a social group that advocates and practices hatred, hostility, or violence
00:00:20.000 towards members of a race, ethnicity, nation, religion, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation,
00:00:25.000 or any other designated sector of society.
00:00:28.000 Do you agree or disagree?
00:00:29.000 I disagree.
00:00:30.000 Okay.
00:00:31.000 Why?
00:00:32.000 I don't think it's a hate group.
00:00:34.000 I don't think the big...
00:00:37.000 I don't know how to say this, but the big thing that feminism wants to talk about, I don't 1.00
00:00:46.000 think it's about hatred.
00:00:47.000 I think it's about equality.
00:00:48.000 I think it's about representation.
00:00:50.000 I think it's about just opening a conversation.
00:00:54.000 I don't know why you think it's a hate group and it's not about.
00:00:57.000 So, it's hate about men or other people.
00:01:02.000 It's just about wanting the same things and the same opportunities and the same voices.
00:01:09.000 So, my question to you is, what in 2022, what opportunities are women not afforded that men
00:01:15.000 are?
00:01:16.000 I mean, in certain places like feminism, I think... 1.00
00:01:19.000 Sorry, just to...
00:01:20.000 I just want to...
00:01:21.000 In the West.
00:01:22.000 So, England and the US. 0.61
00:01:23.000 Okay.
00:01:24.000 I just want to say I'm not from the UK or the US.
00:01:28.000 I'm from France, actually.
00:01:30.000 Okay.
00:01:31.000 But I just can't speak on that.
00:01:34.000 Okay.
00:01:35.000 Okay.
00:01:36.000 Yeah, that's good.
00:01:37.000 For me, feminism is about not only fighting for yourself, but for all the women, all the 1.00
00:01:42.000 women around the world.
00:01:44.000 Okay.
00:01:45.000 So, women who don't have the same opportunities that women from the UK or from France or from
00:01:51.000 the US have, because that's just a fact.
00:01:54.000 They don't.
00:01:55.000 What...
00:01:56.000 So, what opportunities do we not have?
00:01:57.000 Like, in the...
00:01:58.000 France, the UK, US, what do we not have?
00:02:01.000 I mean, in certain places, there's still discrimination about women. 0.99
00:02:05.000 You're not taking with the same credibility as men.
00:02:10.000 From experiences...
00:02:12.000 They still have, like, harassment, sexual harassment going on.
00:02:17.000 I mean, the 97%.
00:02:21.000 You know, a phrase that I like, it's not all men, but it's all women.
00:02:26.000 You know?
00:02:27.000 Do you not, as a woman, have any problems or, like, aggressions or, like, commentaries
00:02:36.000 about...
00:02:37.000 Because you're a woman or sexualized at a young age or stuff like that, you know? 0.57
00:02:42.000 What happened, was I sexualized at a young... 0.98
00:02:44.000 No, I was pretty ugly. 0.94
00:02:45.000 I think it's not...
00:02:47.000 No, when I was young.
00:02:48.000 I think it's deeper than that.
00:02:50.000 I think it's not about if you're ugly, if you're pretty or not.
00:02:53.000 I think if you're...
00:02:55.000 You just...
00:02:56.000 People just will sexualize you in many different forms.
00:03:02.000 Do you think women sexualize ourselves, though?
00:03:04.000 You see girls, like, taking off their clothes and, like, getting... 1.00
00:03:07.000 Like, from a young age, you see girls taking off their clothes and getting on social media. 0.99
00:03:11.000 What do you mean, young age?
00:03:12.000 Like...
00:03:13.000 I mean, my sister's 16, 15.
00:03:15.000 She... 1.00
00:03:16.000 I see her friends.
00:03:17.000 They're, like, in bikinis. 0.99
00:03:18.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:03:19.000 And, like, shoving their boobs and, like, shaking their butt on social media. 0.99
00:03:22.000 Like, they're sexualizing themselves. 0.99
00:03:24.000 Yeah, so...
00:03:25.000 Do you think the problem is them or not the person sexualizing them?
00:03:30.000 I think it's both.
00:03:31.000 I mean, I think you can't take accountability from women. 1.00
00:03:34.000 Like, if you're gonna... 0.96
00:03:35.000 If I walked around here butt naked, I can't be mad if men sexualize me. 0.99
00:03:39.000 I mean... 1.00
00:03:40.000 That's silly. 0.96
00:03:41.000 No one's asking you to be butt naked. 0.95
00:03:44.000 But I think if a 16-year-old girl just wants to have fun and just wants to get a picture with her friends 0.68
00:03:50.000 and not expecting to be sexualized immediately and just wants to have just a picture with her friends looking good and, you know...
00:03:59.000 It's not just that.
00:04:00.000 Like, I have TikTok. 0.68
00:04:02.000 There's 16-year-olds shaking butt.
00:04:04.000 It's not like they're just taking a picture at the beach. 0.99
00:04:07.000 They're shaking ass at a young age. 0.93
00:04:10.000 And I think as, like, an older generation of women, we need to, like, tell younger women, like, that's not acceptable behavior. 0.98
00:04:17.000 Because, like, men, the wrong... you're gonna get the wrong type of attention.
00:04:22.000 I mean...
00:04:23.000 But you're taking all the accountability off of the women and just putting it all on the men. 0.76
00:04:27.000 I don't... maybe.
00:04:29.000 I think feminism is about having a choice. 1.00
00:04:33.000 I think if someone wants to walk up butt naked, that's the fucking choice. 0.99
00:04:38.000 I'm not gonna say that you can do that because I don't agree with that. 1.00
00:04:42.000 That's your life.
00:04:43.000 I wouldn't do it personally, but I won't judge you.
00:04:46.000 I will force you to not do it.
00:04:48.000 I agree with you.
00:04:49.000 Like, I think women should have the choice to do whatever they want to choose. 1.00
00:04:52.000 Like, within reason, I think there should be, like, nudity laws, you know?
00:04:55.000 Like...
00:04:56.000 Like...
00:04:57.000 Right?
00:04:58.000 Yeah, we'd agree.
00:04:59.000 Okay.
00:05:00.000 But at the same time, like...
00:05:02.000 At the same time, I think you need to warn women of the outcomes.
00:05:06.000 And if you dress a certain way and you act a certain way...
00:05:09.000 Like, I'm not gonna...
00:05:10.000 I have three little sisters.
00:05:12.000 And I tell them if you dress a certain way and you act a certain way, men are gonna look at you a certain way
00:05:16.000 and you don't want them to look at you like that.
00:05:18.000 So you agree?
00:05:19.000 You agree that the problem is the men's sexual life? 0.82
00:05:21.000 No, I...
00:05:22.000 It can be dangerous for them.
00:05:23.000 No.
00:05:24.000 I mean, partially.
00:05:25.000 I mean, partially.
00:05:26.000 I think there's creepy men.
00:05:27.000 I agree with you.
00:05:28.000 I don't think it's the majority of men.
00:05:29.000 I think it's a minority.
00:05:30.000 I think it's a small percentage of men.
00:05:32.000 But...
00:05:33.000 But what I do think is, like, you have to take some accountability as women for the way we're acting and presenting ourselves.
00:05:39.000 And I'm not just gonna put all the blame on men.
00:05:42.000 You're not putting all the blame on men.
00:05:44.000 You're actually minimizing the suffering of women who have experienced, like, rape, sexual aggressions, and things like that
00:05:52.000 on an everyday basis or at least...
00:05:55.000 How am I minimizing the experience of those women when I'm just talking about female accountability? 0.96
00:06:01.000 Because you're putting all the blame on women and you're just...
00:06:03.000 No, I'm not.
00:06:04.000 ...minimizing the things and saying you shouldn't do that because that's the outcome that's gonna get...
00:06:09.000 No, no.
00:06:10.000 That's not what I'm doing.
00:06:11.000 I'm saying I want women to be able to protect themselves.
00:06:14.000 And there are... 0.98
00:06:15.000 There are shitty men, but it's not a majority. 0.99
00:06:18.000 It's a minority. 1.00
00:06:19.000 It's a small percentage of men that commit a lot of crimes.
00:06:23.000 And so, why would I not tell my sisters to protect themselves and dress a certain way?
00:06:27.000 I also don't want my sisters to be known as, like, a hoe. 1.00
00:06:30.000 I don't want them to be known as that.
00:06:33.000 So, I'm saying we need to take some accountability as women. 0.99
00:06:37.000 Because we're talking...
00:06:38.000 We're not even talking about assault.
00:06:40.000 We're talking about being sexualized.
00:06:41.000 Like, having men look at you.
00:06:42.000 And if you walk around half naked, like, we can't be shocked if the men look.
00:06:46.000 I mean, I think you're very lucky if you think that it's a minority and that women don't experience that and that it doesn't affect them. 1.00
00:06:59.000 That it doesn't affect them.
00:07:00.000 And I think women just want to have fun and just how they want. 1.00
00:07:04.000 Oh, they want.
00:07:05.000 You're lucky if you think that it doesn't happen every day or that it doesn't affect the women as much as you think it does.
00:07:13.000 Because I don't think women who post themselves on social media automatically want to be sexualized or want this type of attention. 0.99
00:07:23.000 I think they just want to have fun and not having to think about, oh, it's going to get this attention or it's going to get that or this.
00:07:32.000 You know, and just, oh, I look good.
00:07:34.000 I want to post myself and my friends because it was a good time and I think I look nice.
00:07:39.000 So why not?
00:07:40.000 So you don't think women ever sexualize themselves? 0.97
00:07:43.000 I think they do.
00:07:44.000 I think they do.
00:07:45.000 Okay.
00:07:46.000 And I don't think there is a problem with that.
00:07:48.000 Okay.
00:07:49.000 But I'm not, what I'm not saying is there's a problem.
00:07:51.000 I think people should be able to do what they want to do.
00:07:53.000 But what I am saying is if you're choosing to post those images online, you can't be mad if people sexualize you.
00:07:59.000 Like, I'm not going to victimize women that are getting, like, sexualized. 0.51
00:08:03.000 And this is not to be confused with assault.
00:08:05.000 We're talking about being sexualized.
00:08:07.000 I think some girls definitely want to be sexualized and not in a bad way. 1.00
00:08:15.000 In a way like, oh, I think I look good.
00:08:17.000 Maybe I want this type of attention.
00:08:19.000 I think that's okay because why not?
00:08:22.000 But not everyone.
00:08:25.000 Sometimes you just want to post yourself and not have creepy men in your DMs saying disgusting stuff, you know.
00:08:32.000 And some people, some girls do, but... 1.00
00:08:34.000 So why don't you just turn off your message requests?
00:08:37.000 Like, it's pretty easy.
00:08:38.000 Yeah, but...
00:08:39.000 Turn them off.
00:08:40.000 Turn off your comments.
00:08:41.000 Like, turn it off.
00:08:42.000 Again, you're just making all the wrongs and all the bad on the women and not on the men.
00:08:51.000 Why are you putting the blame on women and not on the men who are creepy and sending these dirty messages?
00:08:58.000 It's like, I'll say the same thing.
00:09:00.000 Like, this is what we're talking about.
00:09:02.000 And then they just move the goalposts.
00:09:04.000 It's like, let's just not talk about what we're supposed...
00:09:07.000 As many of you know, I was just banned on TikTok and we are demonetized on a daily basis on this platform.
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