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- April 07, 2023
Pearl Uses Logic On A Feminist
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9 minutes
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177.02127
Word Count
1,664
Sentence Count
176
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What's your name?
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Amel.
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Sorry, Amel?
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Yeah.
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Amel, okay.
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That's a pretty name.
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What...
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Okay, let me pull up.
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So, my assertion today is that I think feminism is a hate group.
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Yeah.
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And a hate group is a social group that advocates and practices hatred, hostility, or violence
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towards members of a race, ethnicity, nation, religion, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation,
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or any other designated sector of society.
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Do you agree or disagree?
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I disagree.
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Okay.
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Why?
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I don't think it's a hate group.
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I don't think the big...
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I don't know how to say this, but the big thing that feminism wants to talk about, I don't
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think it's about hatred.
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I think it's about equality.
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I think it's about representation.
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I think it's about just opening a conversation.
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I don't know why you think it's a hate group and it's not about.
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So, it's hate about men or other people.
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It's just about wanting the same things and the same opportunities and the same voices.
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So, my question to you is, what in 2022, what opportunities are women not afforded that men
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are?
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I mean, in certain places like feminism, I think...
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Sorry, just to...
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I just want to...
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In the West.
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So, England and the US.
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Okay.
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I just want to say I'm not from the UK or the US.
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I'm from France, actually.
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Okay.
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But I just can't speak on that.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Yeah, that's good.
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For me, feminism is about not only fighting for yourself, but for all the women, all the
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women around the world.
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Okay.
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So, women who don't have the same opportunities that women from the UK or from France or from
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the US have, because that's just a fact.
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They don't.
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What...
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So, what opportunities do we not have?
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Like, in the...
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France, the UK, US, what do we not have?
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I mean, in certain places, there's still discrimination about women.
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You're not taking with the same credibility as men.
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From experiences...
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They still have, like, harassment, sexual harassment going on.
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I mean, the 97%.
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You know, a phrase that I like, it's not all men, but it's all women.
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You know?
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Do you not, as a woman, have any problems or, like, aggressions or, like, commentaries
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about...
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Because you're a woman or sexualized at a young age or stuff like that, you know?
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What happened, was I sexualized at a young...
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No, I was pretty ugly.
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I think it's not...
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No, when I was young.
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I think it's deeper than that.
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I think it's not about if you're ugly, if you're pretty or not.
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I think if you're...
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You just...
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People just will sexualize you in many different forms.
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Do you think women sexualize ourselves, though?
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You see girls, like, taking off their clothes and, like, getting...
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Like, from a young age, you see girls taking off their clothes and getting on social media.
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What do you mean, young age?
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Like...
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I mean, my sister's 16, 15.
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She...
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I see her friends.
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They're, like, in bikinis.
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Yeah.
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And, like, shoving their boobs and, like, shaking their butt on social media.
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Like, they're sexualizing themselves.
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Yeah, so...
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Do you think the problem is them or not the person sexualizing them?
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I think it's both.
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I mean, I think you can't take accountability from women.
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Like, if you're gonna...
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If I walked around here butt naked, I can't be mad if men sexualize me.
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I mean...
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That's silly.
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No one's asking you to be butt naked.
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But I think if a 16-year-old girl just wants to have fun and just wants to get a picture with her friends
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and not expecting to be sexualized immediately and just wants to have just a picture with her friends looking good and, you know...
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It's not just that.
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Like, I have TikTok.
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There's 16-year-olds shaking butt.
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It's not like they're just taking a picture at the beach.
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They're shaking ass at a young age.
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And I think as, like, an older generation of women, we need to, like, tell younger women, like, that's not acceptable behavior.
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Because, like, men, the wrong... you're gonna get the wrong type of attention.
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I mean...
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But you're taking all the accountability off of the women and just putting it all on the men.
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I don't... maybe.
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I think feminism is about having a choice.
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I think if someone wants to walk up butt naked, that's the fucking choice.
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I'm not gonna say that you can do that because I don't agree with that.
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That's your life.
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I wouldn't do it personally, but I won't judge you.
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I will force you to not do it.
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I agree with you.
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Like, I think women should have the choice to do whatever they want to choose.
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Like, within reason, I think there should be, like, nudity laws, you know?
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Like...
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Like...
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Right?
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Yeah, we'd agree.
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Okay.
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But at the same time, like...
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At the same time, I think you need to warn women of the outcomes.
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And if you dress a certain way and you act a certain way...
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Like, I'm not gonna...
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I have three little sisters.
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And I tell them if you dress a certain way and you act a certain way, men are gonna look at you a certain way
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and you don't want them to look at you like that.
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So you agree?
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You agree that the problem is the men's sexual life?
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No, I...
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It can be dangerous for them.
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No.
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I mean, partially.
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I mean, partially.
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I think there's creepy men.
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I agree with you.
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I don't think it's the majority of men.
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I think it's a minority.
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I think it's a small percentage of men.
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But...
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But what I do think is, like, you have to take some accountability as women for the way we're acting and presenting ourselves.
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And I'm not just gonna put all the blame on men.
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You're not putting all the blame on men.
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You're actually minimizing the suffering of women who have experienced, like, rape, sexual aggressions, and things like that
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on an everyday basis or at least...
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How am I minimizing the experience of those women when I'm just talking about female accountability?
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Because you're putting all the blame on women and you're just...
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No, I'm not.
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...minimizing the things and saying you shouldn't do that because that's the outcome that's gonna get...
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No, no.
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That's not what I'm doing.
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I'm saying I want women to be able to protect themselves.
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And there are...
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There are shitty men, but it's not a majority.
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It's a minority.
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It's a small percentage of men that commit a lot of crimes.
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And so, why would I not tell my sisters to protect themselves and dress a certain way?
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I also don't want my sisters to be known as, like, a hoe.
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I don't want them to be known as that.
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So, I'm saying we need to take some accountability as women.
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Because we're talking...
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We're not even talking about assault.
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We're talking about being sexualized.
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Like, having men look at you.
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And if you walk around half naked, like, we can't be shocked if the men look.
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I mean, I think you're very lucky if you think that it's a minority and that women don't experience that and that it doesn't affect them.
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That it doesn't affect them.
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And I think women just want to have fun and just how they want.
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Oh, they want.
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You're lucky if you think that it doesn't happen every day or that it doesn't affect the women as much as you think it does.
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Because I don't think women who post themselves on social media automatically want to be sexualized or want this type of attention.
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I think they just want to have fun and not having to think about, oh, it's going to get this attention or it's going to get that or this.
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You know, and just, oh, I look good.
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I want to post myself and my friends because it was a good time and I think I look nice.
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So why not?
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So you don't think women ever sexualize themselves?
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I think they do.
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I think they do.
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Okay.
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And I don't think there is a problem with that.
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Okay.
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But I'm not, what I'm not saying is there's a problem.
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I think people should be able to do what they want to do.
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But what I am saying is if you're choosing to post those images online, you can't be mad if people sexualize you.
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Like, I'm not going to victimize women that are getting, like, sexualized.
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And this is not to be confused with assault.
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We're talking about being sexualized.
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I think some girls definitely want to be sexualized and not in a bad way.
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In a way like, oh, I think I look good.
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Maybe I want this type of attention.
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I think that's okay because why not?
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But not everyone.
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Sometimes you just want to post yourself and not have creepy men in your DMs saying disgusting stuff, you know.
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And some people, some girls do, but...
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So why don't you just turn off your message requests?
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Like, it's pretty easy.
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Yeah, but...
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Turn them off.
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Turn off your comments.
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Like, turn it off.
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Again, you're just making all the wrongs and all the bad on the women and not on the men.
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Why are you putting the blame on women and not on the men who are creepy and sending these dirty messages?
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It's like, I'll say the same thing.
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Like, this is what we're talking about.
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And then they just move the goalposts.
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It's like, let's just not talk about what we're supposed...
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