00:01:36.240See, I just sometimes you guys are saying things and I feel like they mean nothing.
00:01:39.740That's because if you feel the hardship and if you've been through the hardship and you've gone through the cycle of actually, okay, getting out from this hardship, then you'd understand the feeling.
00:01:53.300If you don't understand the feeling and if you haven't gone through the process, it's really hard to understand.
00:01:57.840But I'm not saying it's not about the feeling.
00:01:59.080Like if we're talking about success, right, if we're talking about business success, it's what are you doing?
00:03:32.480I can see, basically, I get what you're saying.
00:03:37.100Everything's about feelings, emotions, but that's not what business is about.
00:03:40.060But sometimes people actually don't know business and they need to learn their lessons and then they get business and then they flourish.
00:03:47.780And I think that's where she's coming from.
00:03:50.740And I get your point as well, because I get it when you say, but you're talking about feelings and things, but feelings get involved when you learn a lesson.
00:03:58.500And then you need to try again, get back up, fail, try again.