Post Wall Gets In Her Feelings And Starts Coping
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the age difference between men and women when it comes to women dating older men, and the baggage that comes with that baggage. We also discuss the benefits and drawbacks of dating someone older than you when you are in your 30s, and whether or not you should date someone younger than you if you already have kids.
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or don't or don't get married um um i i was just waiting patiently because obviously i'm listening
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to the guys behind me there's a lot of things i think you can see from my face that are actually
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winding me up and i thought am i going to take a break here or just be polite and sit quietly
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because you talked about uh women i think the word used was combat combative combative yeah
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they were yeah that was i was sitting here and that was what winding me up constantly the way that
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you and others were talking about older women or you know could be vice versa and older men
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and i was just getting more and more angry and i thought well just sit quietly and see what you've
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all got to say and we all have personal opinions but it doesn't mean that just because you're with
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an older woman that um they are taking advantage of you and you're just having fun how about
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consider that somebody a little bit older than you might actually be interested in you it's not
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always for fun i mean you can ask that to me personally if i'm in getting involved with
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someone i'm not interested in fun you know i've got personal views self-respect i don't need to
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go around dropping my pants like all these other girls i don't need to do all that so it doesn't
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matter who i date i'm interested in something proper i think the word is proper something proper
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and not to play around so obviously i'm not going to date you so sorry yeah i just i think that's
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just how guys view it like yeah and i don't mean any offense personally i just think when guys
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typically if they date girls that are significantly older than them like long-term guys look at family
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and they prefer to have kids of their own and i just think over a certain age you're kind of out
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of the equation no no i totally understand that and um you also have to take into account that a lot
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of a lot of men and women already have children when you meet them and if you have a good heart and
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you're a good person um you will actually embrace that and i will be really open about that and i will
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say that to anyone i meet if i meet a man now i don't care how old you are you know you could be
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a single dad whether you're 25 45 and bringing these kids up on your own i'm going to embrace that
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uh if i got a touch on that like yeah like that's i i think it's very like correct me if i think it's
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very easy for like a woman to say that but i just feel like me i i'm losing a lot if i'm dating an
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older woman who already has kids like that's baggage i do not want to carry it's not baggage
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that's the word that i didn't like you using it's it's not baggage you're using really i don't know
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let me tell you why that's that's how men view it and it's not it's not fun it's not nice but it's
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just true that's how men men men men men could have baggage too i would i would not call anything
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you have baggage so i'm talking to the guys behind me so say um you're 20 say if right now
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as a 20 year old you'd already got two or three kids it's just how it is i would not even though
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you're young and you've had kids at an early age i would not call that baggage why would you call
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kids and life experiences baggage let me tell you what that's it's wrong it's wrong that's a woman's
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point of view yeah typically because wait wait wait wait wait wait more typically because because
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it fulfills our mating strategy because in history like if a guy could impregnate multiple people it showed
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he could take care of them where men wanted to ensure paternity and pass on resources to the kids
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that are there so like i'm not saying every single person and every single guy but it's just how in
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general they view it yeah i think oh i was just gonna say i think we're throwing around the word
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baggage too loosely like yeah well how how is like somebody's past experiences and their children
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that they've like had from those past experiences how is that baggage like because now i have to carry
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if you're dating older women you there's the probability that they have a past marriage and they have
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part of children so if you don't want to deal with that baggage then don't date them
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and you know what but he's saying he doesn't because that's baggage to him and i think he should
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be like allowed to say that yeah yeah he can say that and remember men have baggage too let me tell
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you the baggage that men carry you always like it's true always you always do this whenever we say
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something about women we always have to say something about men we do because we have to be fair
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why we have to be fair because the man they're older they get there's two things that happen we
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talk about we talk about men's baggage all the time which baggage is it that men have then
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i would that we talk about because i don't really hear them what are you talking about in the
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media all the time why is men are trash why is that a common no that's not baggage that's that's
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a judgment the baggage that men carry if they're older they get as well means they either
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been incels for longer or they've fucked around for longer so those two bring two problems either
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you're going to be insecure and think that you cannot trust any woman because you've been with
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too many three or fours or you're going to be very insecure in yourself and in your manlyhood
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because you've not had enough experience some men have the insecurities and they have their baggage
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that's why you'd rather be with somebody that's somewhat on your level because it's easier for
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both of you to carry the same i agree with you like what yeah some men have baggage some women
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have baggage but i'm saying men and women like like men and women don't look at children the
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same and you can't change reality it just is what it is yeah like like um i've heard guys say they
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get more girls after they have kids i've never heard a single mother say her her dating options
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got better after a child i've never heard that like i heard i've heard guys say they brought their
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kid to the park because they know the girls would like you know oh typically speaking men don't want
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to have to spread their resources to kids that are not and it's also like they have a lot of risk
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that comes with that like they have to invest in a kid that's not theirs and i don't know if you
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have kids and i don't know you know how old the kids are but especially if they're young they could
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raise a kid for 10 years and have no legal rights to that child at the end of it they've got options
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if they want to be involved in the child's life obviously it's a man's choice if they want to be
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that involved and have rights they they can legally adopt and give their name to that child
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or they are just the woman's partner who has kids in their life right and they can and i think i think
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if more women would do that that would help but but i don't think that's typical with a lot of single
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mothers that's not that's not what i've gathered because because you ask them like can can the dad
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discipline the kid as as his own so if you disagree with like he spanks your kid you disagree with it
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would you let him do it and a lot of single mothers say no to that question but there are a lot more
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single mothers and single dads so um right because the court system doesn't allow a lot of men to see
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their children i mean women win custody 90 of the time and um there's a lot of guys that get screwed
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in court and don't get access to their children leave kids a lot more i think can i just interject on
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that one um obviously there's statistics on that but there's also there's a big community of men that
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don't have access to their children and they're not being recognized right and there's a thing where
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you hear this a lot you hear this a lot but it's like there are there are stories of children that
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were led to believe by their mothers that their father left them and they're somehow at the blue i
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have a personal friend of mine for example who was able to regain contact with his father after like
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25 years or something or 10 or 15 years sorry minus his his childhood via my linkedin and then
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found out that it was actually his mother that pushed him away but he was indoctrinated with the
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belief that he was abandoned by his father so it's just like whenever i heard these these kind of
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things i'm not necessarily saying that not not all men are amazing fathers and stuff but there's a lot
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of men out here that don't have a voice and all the focus is on the women's side of things
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particular things particularly single fathers because i have personal experience of co-parenting
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right and i'm not not not i try not to like make too much of a comparison between men and women
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but from personal experience women have many advantages that single fathers would dream of having
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something as basic as picking up your child from nursery and having to be interrogated because you're
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seen as a threat because you're around little children every single day for the next 15 13
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years all these kind of things all add up so i'm just saying that there's there's more to it than
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that than just like yeah and i agree with you to an extent because um incarceration like mass
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incarceration in america is mainly men so a lot more women are forced to be single mothers
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yeah so i agree with you i'm just saying from society most men in the room right yeah when you go
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into a place that has lots of little children what do you do like what's your first response
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i'm distancing myself as much as possible yeah do you know what i'm saying yeah and then can you
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imagine being that child that man with a child it's like it's a it's a really really challenging
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dynamic because men are portrayed as like predators way more often that it would be kind of scary
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because you don't want to be seen like that like you like you want to be like loving but you also
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feel restricted by how society views you no yeah and and i'd like to say too in the u in the u.s
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the women are incentivized to take away the kids from the dad because they're paid more um if the
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if the dad doesn't see the kids they're given more money from child support so they're literally paid
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to take away the kids from the dad um well i agree with that i just have to say ladies if you're doing
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that that's terrible because having a man that is willing to be in your child's life is a blessing
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if he's willing to do the right work if you're if you're sleeping you're sleeping and that's your fault
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as much as i champion my sisters and i always want to protect women i do know that when it comes
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to the relationship between parent and child that's something that you really shouldn't play
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with and you shouldn't use that to your advantage or to for power or for financial gain for whatever
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it is you're going to hell for that because it's your child that's going to yeah and taking off that
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point that's why i wouldn't date a really older guy because if he had kids or if i wanted to have
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kids when i was like when i was my age they wouldn't be there for me they couldn't be a father
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figure because they would die a lot earlier than i would and then i would be left with the
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responsibilities that's actually what my dad says with dating older guys he says my dad says you
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should date someone younger as a girl which is like the opposite of red pill because he says women
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live longer yeah my dad's like a logical guy he just lives