JustPearlyThings - Romania Racism and Islam Phobia

00:00:00.000 So you're saying they didn't give them the weaker part of the case too.

00:00:02.960 So, and you mentioned CCTV footage of what?

00:00:05.520 Right. So CCTV footage of, so CCTV footage, the imperative.

00:00:09.920 It basically shows, it'll give us a very good window into understanding,

00:00:14.240 were these women detained? Were they controlled? Were they let out? 1.00

00:00:18.800 It won't give us the full scope, but it'll give us a significant scope,

00:00:21.760 both inside and outside. They have the CCTV.

00:00:23.760 They also had CCTV in the house where the girls were living.

00:00:26.320 None of that has been included.

00:00:27.520 Wait, so they didn't include the CCTV footage that was actually in the house

00:00:32.640 when the girls were living there? 0.99

00:00:33.680 That's right. And so, and the defense wants to include it.

00:00:37.200 And that's going to be, I'm going to explain why that violates other articles

00:00:41.440 within international law, which is then incorporated into Romania law.

00:00:44.160 I don't think they have to, I don't think there's an obligation for the court to include

00:00:47.040 every single piece of evidence.

00:00:48.400 It's international law.

00:00:49.120 No, hold on.

00:00:50.000 Sorry.

00:00:50.480 To include every single piece of evidence that we would want the defense to include,

00:00:53.680 right? At some point, I'm pretty sure that their goal is to just balance out whether

00:00:57.360 or not a future investigation is likely to lead to some sort of criminal charge.

00:01:01.280 It's not to present the entirety of the defense's case at that point in time to see

00:01:04.480 if they can dismiss the charges.

00:01:05.680 It's just to see if there's enough to detain them there for the investigation to continue,

00:01:08.960 meaning they're going to begin to, or they're already in the process of subpoenaing

00:01:11.840 electronic records and devices and going through chat logs and everything.

00:01:14.880 And the judge, insofar as the statements he's released, has felt like there are

00:01:18.480 significant enough claims.

00:01:19.920 And I think publicly, I think we can all see that, that it warrants detaining them,

00:01:23.520 especially given that there are flight risks, so that the investigation can conclude.

00:01:26.480 And it might be at the end of that investigation that decide,

00:01:28.720 well, there's nothing going on here.

00:01:29.840 And then they release them.

00:01:30.960 But it, I mean, I think right now, what we've seen publicly is we've all seen

00:01:34.160 there's plenty enough evidence out there to say,

00:01:35.840 it's probably something here that's worth investigating.

00:01:38.080 That's not correct, because the reason why they have this process

00:01:41.600 is because you can give someone who's been accused of a crime due process,

00:01:46.080 he's given an opportunity to present the evidence.

00:01:48.240 And then the CPS makes the decision.

00:01:49.920 The reason for that is because everybody knows if you have a scenario in any kind of system where

00:01:54.960 the prosecutor only provides positive evidence to try and prosecute,

00:01:58.400 and he doesn't provide the evidence that weakens his case, you will end up in trial no matter what.

00:02:03.040 And then what will happen is everybody knows, even if you're innocent, trial risk could go wrong

00:02:06.480 and you could go to jail.

00:02:07.360 Hence why they have these things in place to ensure that doesn't happen and more innocent people aren't

00:02:12.880 incarcerated. And someone, and I know you're from the United States where there's a huge amount of

00:02:17.040 incarcerations and more than anyone per capita around the world, as well as, for example,

00:02:22.560 in the United States, you have much more black people, Hispanic people, 300% more,

00:02:26.320 who have been incarcerated. So again, this is an example of another black man who's basically 0.97

00:02:30.000 being incarcerated in, sorry left, do you not agree?

00:02:33.200 I don't know. I don't think this has anything to do with black men or whatever that's being incarcerated.

00:02:37.040 I don't know why that's even, I don't know why it even got brought up.

00:02:39.040 Oh, it does. It does. Because basically you're ignoring the fact that he's in Eastern Europe.

00:02:43.360 It's a basically significantly, has a significant amount of issues in terms of race issues.

00:02:48.640 It also has a significant amount of issues in terms of sex trafficking.

00:02:51.520 Yeah, well, it has, well, and we will talk about that. But in terms of the significant

00:02:55.680 amount of race issues, significant amount of Islamophobia, you have a scenario where this country

00:03:00.160 has not allowed any kind of dark immigrants into their country, but now they've changed that for 0.97

00:03:05.280 Ukrainian immigrants and allowed a significant amount in, you've got a significant amount of

00:03:08.960 history of Islamophobia. So of course, when a man, when a black man, who is a Muslim,

00:03:13.040 gets incarcerated immediately after he's converted to Islam, I think-

00:03:17.120 How long has the investigation been going on for? Since April at least?

00:03:20.080 Well, they claim that investigation has been going on for April. We don't know exactly.

00:03:23.200 It's going to be interesting to see when the evidence comes out, what evidence comes out,

00:03:26.000 but what we do know is he was incarcerated.

00:03:29.040 Just curious, is there a single shred of evidence to point to anybody at any point of this process

00:03:33.440 being either is racist or Islamophobic?

00:03:35.440 I've just explained to you examples of how Romania has demonstrated that. And also,

00:03:40.720 I'm going to demonstrate to you throughout this process how, for example, people are not

00:03:45.040 understanding that a lot of the comments he makes is based on his heritage, is based on his background,

00:03:49.360 where he comes from, something which I understand you may not understand based on your upbringing

00:03:53.120 and, you know, being a white man.

00:03:54.400 Sure. So let me ask that, yeah, let me ask that one more time.

00:03:56.320 Is there a single shred of evidence that anybody has participated in any Islamophobia

00:04:00.640 or racism in regards to the Undertaker?

00:04:02.640 Yeah, yeah. No, no. I've just given you an example of Romania having a significant amount of racism.

00:04:08.320 Well, I think it'd be harsh to call it racism, but it's a significant indicator.

00:04:12.720 If you're not letting people who are of dark color into your country, but you're letting 1.00

00:04:16.560 people of white color into your country, I think that says a lot.

00:04:18.640 Okay, so I'll ask a third time, and if you don't have an answer, that's fine.

00:04:20.880 You have no evidence of any Islamophobia or racism present in the Take-Ass, right?

00:04:24.320 I've just given you evidence.

00:04:25.280 You're telling me that the country as a whole maybe have had problems with racism,

00:04:29.280 but in this particular case, I'm curious if there's any...

00:04:32.080 Like in the United States, if something happens and a cop was racist,

00:04:34.880 we might look for like a statement that the cop has made.

00:04:36.960 You wouldn't just say that like, wow, a black guy got arrested.

00:04:39.200 That's racism, right? But you're saying that because he got arrested,

00:04:42.960 it's racism and Islamophobia. So I'm curious if there's any evidence of that whatsoever.

00:04:45.760 No, no. What I'm saying is when you look at the scenario, there is the significant issues

00:04:50.320 when it comes to the fact that he is a black man and he is just converted to Islam

00:04:55.200 and even incarcerated in a Eastern European country. To ignore that is ridiculous, 0.99

00:05:00.080 and I'll explain why. Because you may... Again, this is a scenario where if you ignore the issues

00:05:05.440 of race, if you ignore the issues of someone's heritage, which is happening a lot in this case,

00:05:08.640 because I know, and we're going to talk about some of the videos that you're complaining about,

00:05:12.240 then you can basically break it into the bare bones and look at literalism and convict anyone of

00:05:17.600 anything. But it's illogical. You have to look at the background. You have to look at the history of the

00:05:21.920 person. And in reality, when you take all them things into consideration, they have a significant

00:05:27.920 impact. Look, this is quite simple. Because you can give these examples, and obviously you have to

00:05:32.880 generalize them. This is a scenario where, let's be clear, it's a person who's a black man who's being,

00:05:37.280 again, accused of doing... accused of rape or human trafficking, essentially white women,

00:05:43.200 and being incarcerated in an Eastern European country without enough evidence. I mean, that takes me

00:05:48.000 back to, you know, for example, the United States, you know, when this type of things are happening

00:05:53.840 in the plantation and KKK. Okay. So we've got Romanian judges, KKK, Andrew Tate, more black men. 0.99

00:06:00.480 No, no, no, no. You can minimize it, but the issue is... Well, not minimize it. No, no, no,

00:06:04.240 but let's talk about this. There's a significant... Hold on, wait, you just said a whole thing.

00:06:06.880 Well, just real quick. Can I just make one point? Well, you say like seven points. No, no, because...

00:06:10.960 Basically, you have a significant issue where black people are being accused of rape by white people, 0.78

00:06:16.880 and it's happened significantly throughout the West. You've seen it now with Benjamin Mendy,

00:06:20.720 you saw it with Greenwood footballers who were accused, and now after losing so many years of

00:06:24.400 their life, they've finally been let out. So to think that this is not happening subconsciously

00:06:28.720 or consciously is an issue. Okay. So just this is a personal feeling that I have. I think that when we

00:06:34.000 pivot to other cases, I feel like it's because we know that this case is very weak. If you want to

00:06:38.080 talk about racism that exists in the United States or racism that exists in particular cases, I'm free to

00:06:42.880 do that at any point in time. But right now, we're talking specifically about the Andrew Tate case.

00:06:46.720 Andrew Tate is a man that has released an entire university guide on how to be a pimp,

00:06:51.200 on how to seduce women and get them to work for you, and how to sex traffic, on how to scam them 0.70

00:06:55.520 on taxes, on how to do all of these things. He's had charges in multiple countries relating to rape.

00:06:59.680 He's had charges in Romania now relating to his entire business relating to sex trafficking.

00:07:04.000 To try to hand wave all of this and go Islamophobia and racism would be okay if we had even one iota

00:07:09.840 of evidence, a statement that a prosecutor made, a statement that a judge has made,

00:07:13.520 uh, any, any type of evidence like this. But right now, we don't have any of that. So I can only go

00:07:17.920 by what I've seen in front of me. So then, then based on that, based on that, then you deny

00:07:21.040 institutional racism, because you can never have a scenario where you can have, use specific evidence

00:07:24.320 for generalization. But the whole point is, we use generalization to, we should, we should, we show

00:07:30.000 many examples to then say, look, this is a general issue. So that's the first point.

00:07:33.120 You might use generalization. If you want to talk about generalization, that's fine. But we use generalization to talk about

00:07:37.520 general issues. We don't use generalization to talk about a particular issue.

00:07:40.320 No, no, no. You, not at all. What happens is you, you use specific issues to create a generalization

00:07:44.640 and then said generalization is used for subsequent issues. That's actually how it works. In terms of,

00:07:49.840 um, coming back to the point, because you made quite a lot of points in terms of the allegations.

00:07:53.920 Again, because this is another problem what we have, and because we're on the race issue, let's talk

00:07:58.240 about it. So you have a scenario where you've basically got a guy who comes from Luton, England,

00:08:02.320 who's basically got a background in, look, he was basically, if you give an American comparable,

00:08:07.760 he's basically from the ghetto. He has a scenario where people from that, that kind of upbringing

00:08:12.000 are talking in very much slang, humor, ghetto type talk. Oh, I'm a gangster. I'm a G. I did this. I did

00:08:17.920 that, that girl, that, this, that, all that kind of stuff. So that's how they talk. Then to say, oh,

00:08:22.160 guess what? He's talked like that. Therefore, he must have done these things. He's calling women like 0.98

00:08:26.320 this. He's, he's saying that he's done this. He's done, he said he's done fraud. All of these things are

00:08:30.160 hugely problematic in the sense of you're basically removing his history and heritage. Now I understand

00:08:36.480 as a white man, you may not understand the background and heritage and these type of things

00:08:39.040 that he's going through, but the issue is that's quite important. Do you not agree? No. Why not?

00:08:46.720 Because me being white or black or whatever has nothing to do with him giving a detail. I don't know.

00:08:52.080 I'm going to be honest. I've only been in London a few times. Okay. Now I haven't walked to some of

00:08:56.640 the roughest parts, but I haven't, maybe there are parts where you walk around and they're talking

00:09:00.800 about how the top G's do tax fraud on their employees. Maybe that's just a way of speaking,

00:09:05.680 but if it is a way of speaking and you detail it to an incredible level, and you have a business

00:09:11.040 where you claim to do that, and you put that out on videos, on social media, and then you go to jail

00:09:15.440 for it. Yeah. You're probably going to get in trouble. Let me finish responding. Okay. Your entire point

00:09:21.200 that this is just a way of talking is ridiculous. It is absurd. He has listed exactly a step-by-step 0.99

00:09:27.280 guide on how he lover boys girls into his sex trafficking business. He uses actual prostitution

00:09:32.960 terms like bottom bitch to describe his relationship to some of the employees that he has. He talks about 0.99

00:09:37.760 bringing women into his, into his company to work them as sex traffic models. And then he specifically 0.68

00:09:42.960 talks about defrauding them using taxes to steal money from them. I don't think that, I think it's a

00:09:47.680 little bit racist of you to say that that's just how people from Luton, England or whatever talk,

00:09:51.520 or that's how they function. I don't believe that is the case. Okay. So I'll answer your question.

00:09:55.200 So no, again, your point is actually doesn't make sense and it doesn't follow. It's non-secretary,

00:09:59.920 and I'll explain why. The reason is because when you look at what he said online, again,

00:10:04.240 you can give the example of bottom bitch and so on and so forth. That's basically slang. That's how 1.00

00:10:08.480 people talk. And that's what you're not understanding. In terms of, let's look at your example,

00:10:12.640 which is completely ridiculous, because what you're saying is, guess what? He said this online, 0.93

00:10:16.000 therefore, he should be convicted based on it online. Well, that's the inference you're making.

00:10:21.120 Basically online, you gave this example, you said, he's trying to defraud them because online,

00:10:25.440 what he actually said was this in that video, because I know the video you're referring to,

00:10:28.800 he says in the same video, he says, I'm going to take all the money in the same video. He says,

00:10:32.720 I'm going to give 50, 50 in the same video. He says, I'm going to give 50, 30, 70, 30,

00:10:37.120 because you know, 20%, you know, I'm going to tell us for tax purposes, but then I ain't going to pay the

00:10:41.600 taxes. And hence why you're making the claim for fraud. The point is this,

00:10:46.000 from the court documents, which I'm sure you've read, none of that is in there.

00:10:51.040 In the court documents, what it actually says is complete opposite. What it says is,

00:10:54.960 and this is the worst one. So this is the worst woman. She says, 0.98

00:10:58.960 I received 50%, he receives 25%. So she receives double of what he receives. So that is nothing

00:11:06.160 got to do with or has no links to the video. And she doesn't mention anything about being

00:11:12.160 defrauded of taxes because she's receiving 50%. So what you're claiming is, guess what? I don't care

00:11:19.040 about what the court documents say. I don't care what the witness are saying, but guess what? In a

00:11:23.200 video, he said this, and therefore he should be convicted based on the video. No, there's only two

00:11:28.160 explanations for the video because the court documents don't add up to what the video says. Either

00:11:32.560 he was exaggerating and talking in this kind of slang language is what I'm trying to explain. So he was

00:11:37.040 exaggerating. Or it could be, which is a possibility that it was so long ago that he did engage in

00:11:44.000 those practices and no longer does. But what we know is in this case, what he's been charged for,

00:11:49.840 so what, sorry, what he's been held for, he hasn't been charged yet. So what he's been arrested for,

00:11:53.920 no one says that. Okay. So I'm sure you've talked to a lot of people that have only watched clips of

00:11:59.920 Andrew Tate, which is fair. And I think that a lot of people say a lot of dumb things about him 0.97

00:12:03.120 because they've only seen clips, which is also not fair. I think people shouldn't do that.

00:12:07.120 But I think you're relying on me having only seen clips. So you're trying to pass this off as

00:12:12.000 slang. When he used that phrase, bottom bitch, he wasn't passing it off as slang. He was very 0.99

00:12:17.280 specifically detailing, bringing girls that were in love with him over to dinner, where he would

00:12:22.400 introduce them to his youngest, youngest working, or one of his younger working models, a woman that

00:12:26.320 he met at 16 that had been working with him for five years, is now 21, and how he would use her to

00:12:31.280 mislead the relationship that they had so that she could get the girl, the new one that was brought in,

00:12:36.240 into working as a cam girl. This is prostitute behavior. This is pimping behavior. This is 1.00

00:12:41.840 exactly what it is. When he says bottom bitch here, he's not just using slang in a funny way to talk 0.98

00:12:46.320 about a girl that's a friend of his that also works as her girlfriend. He's literally detailing, 0.98

00:12:50.960 step by step, the process by how he would deceive and mislead, which are key components of sex

00:12:56.960 trafficking, a new woman that he's brought in with another woman. He would mislead the extent of

00:13:01.360 their relationship, and then he would use that to get her to go and be a cam girl. So that is not

00:13:06.160 slang. Right, right. Wait, wait, let me finish. That's not slang. You just talk for ages, but okay.

00:13:09.440 No, no, hold on. I didn't talk for ages. Yeah, I just spent like half the time. I literally wrote down

00:13:15.280 two points. I am going. I go nonstop, okay? So it is not a slang thing. Secondly, you're bringing up this

00:13:20.640 thing that the witness says they got 50%. That is not what the witness said. The witness said that

00:13:24.960 originally there might have been an agreement where it was a 50-25-25 split, but the witness also said that they were

00:13:30.800 randomly dinged for different charges that made it so that they didn't get that payout. For instance,

00:13:34.960 if you didn't stream the full 12 hours, you might be fined like 1,000 to 4,000, uh, whatever the Roman,

00:13:41.040 um, or whatever the Romanian currency is. And that there were a lot of things where,

00:13:45.120 because one of the claims was they had to work 12-hour shifts with a five-minute break,

00:13:48.160 and if they didn't work enough there, the witness also said that if they didn't post enough on OnlyFans,

00:13:52.560 they didn't post enough TikToks, that they also were ding their pay as well. So while on paper,

00:13:56.000 it might have been a 50-50 split, we have the issues where the witness is saying that they've lost some of it

00:14:00.240 due to being fined, and we also have the fact that Andrew Tate on video has talked about how to

00:14:04.160 defraud the women with their taxes, and we have another statement of him saying that he also

00:14:08.400 oftentimes just bills in cryptocurrency, which is impossible to track. The woman would have no 1.00

00:14:11.840 idea if she's getting that or not. Right. So again, your statement that you've

00:14:17.440 relayed is inaccurate. So the woman who said that 50%, 25%, 25%, she did-

00:14:22.080 Is there a way we could pull this up on screen, the document that you guys are talking about?

00:14:26.000 Do you know what it's called? It's on some website, Spice something. It's in Romanian.

00:14:29.760 Oh, it's in Romanian. Yeah. You didn't bring a Romanian translator? Are you even trying?

00:14:34.400 I'm sorry. I thought this was a serious show. Jesus.

00:14:39.840 So how did you read it then, the document? Someone translated it, but I don't know about that.

00:14:45.920 I learned Romanian. You learned Romanian? I have Romanian friends. You can also use

00:14:49.920 Google Translate on this other thing too, yeah. I'll pull it down, okay. Because we could also pull

00:14:55.600 up the video you guys were talking about too. So in terms of what you're saying, that's not right,

00:14:59.520 because the woman who claimed 50% never claimed that she ever got fined. I can say that without

00:15:03.280 doubt. What she's claiming is other women were fined and their percentage was much higher. So that's not

00:15:08.560 right. She wouldn't know. She would never- No, no. So she's saying, this is the problem. She's saying,

00:15:14.800 I never got fined. I got 50% because you're trying to make it look like this. And this is what you're

00:15:19.120 trying to portray. You're trying to portray this point. She got 50%. Then she got fined. So 0.83

00:15:23.840 therefore the percentage reduced. That's basically what you're trying to portray. Can you explain?

00:15:27.040 But what she said was, no, I got 50%. She never got fined. Other women who allegedly got a bigger 1.00

00:15:34.320 percentage were fined. That's what it was. That's not true. But I'm just curious, how would she know she

00:15:39.120 got 50%? Sorry? How would she know she got 50%? Well, she said she got 50%. I'm asking you how

00:15:45.760 she would know. How would she know if she didn't? I'm going by Andrew Tate's statements to figure out

00:15:51.200 what was paid or not. And Andrew Tate himself has said that he would try to scam the models. But I'm

00:15:55.040 curious because- No, no, no. No, no, no. This is the problem, you see, because again,

00:15:59.920 another point is this. You know when you said you used the bottom-bitch method and you know, 1.00

00:16:03.600 he used a woman to Laura and get another woman. There's no woman who's open till now out of the 0.99

00:16:08.640 victims whose information we have. No woman has claimed that that occurred. So no woman has said

00:16:14.400 that Andrew Tate took her for dinner, brought her bottom-bitch and then tried to lure her and 1.00

00:16:18.640 convince her and then make her go abroad. No one has said that. They all have said that they all 0.99

00:16:22.720 went abroad based on their own interaction with the Tates and there was no other woman involved in trying

00:16:27.040 to lure them.

JustPearlyThings - March 18, 2023

Romania Racism and Islam Phobia

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