Sales Taught Pearl This Fact About Men
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Summary
In this episode, we talk about gender equality in the workplace and the challenges faced by women in the construction industry. We also discuss the Red Pill and what it means to be a woman in a male-dominated workplace.
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like there are some women that are maybe at the more masculine end of the scale that do really
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thrive in that kind of environment right and i say have them do it but have them do it like
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naturally right yeah so without pushing them into it yes and that's what i think i can get on board
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with that and that's what i think i think the feminists that are trying to make it equal in
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like engineering and all these fields i think that's a meme and i think i think it harms the
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women because we spend all this money and then we find out we don't even like this yeah oh no
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just going to be a stay-at-home mom now but i think it's still good for there to be like
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equal access to the opportunities so you know not necessarily pushing people into it or like
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forcing them in with money or like any kind of incentive but i think it would still be nice for
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there to be like equal opportunities to do those things if they want to there is but do you think
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a woman feels comfortable going into like a construction how does her feeling comfortable
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having to do with there being equal access that's the that's because i feel like surely if they if
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they don't feel comfortable to go into it then they can't necessarily i'll tell you i'll tell you
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a lot of men don't feel comfortable going to the gym a lot of men don't feel comfortable i don't
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think anyone feels comfortable exactly so that's a personal problem it has nothing to do with reality
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but i think if they're going to face like gender-based violence or like harassment or anything to do
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with that then that could be maybe an issue that would stop why would you go to that as the
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argument like if they are going to face they might feel like they're more likely to face like
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gender-based harassment though like a woman walking into like a construction
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personal problems but i mean if you've been catcalled on the construction site the day before
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and then you're you're walking into a construction classroom with the same kind of people are you
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going to feel comfortable doing that as a woman you're conflicting two different things because
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first of all you're saying if you've been catcalled so does it mean that the the construction site she
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was catcalled on is the site she's going to walk on no but you might it's like you might then kind of i guess
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if something like that happens to you you might then kind of view it fruit have you ever have you
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ever been in um in like a situation where like have you ever been on like a job site of a construction
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like me working not just like walking by like actually interacting oh no no so so i used to sell
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plumbing tech yeah okay so i used to sell like parts to plumbers basically like the pipe hangers on
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plumb yeah just very unique but whatever and so yeah and so what we would do is we would go to the
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schools and we would teach them how to use our product so it was me and a room full of men and
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we were like here you go and what i couldn't believe was going to these they're like training
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centers was how mean men are to each other when we're not around right yeah they bully each other
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they make fun of each other they harass each other but men don't whine right so what women do
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is they expect to go in the men's space and not get harassed bullied yeah but you feel like they're
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just treating them equally in the same way that they're treating the men right yes that's a really
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interesting and so what happens is women say let me into the man's world yeah and then the men say
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okay come into our world and they say no no not like that you can't do that this is all wrong and
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then my thing is if you're gonna go into a man's world like that would be like me being in the red pill
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space yeah and saying i don't like the way the men are talking then get out but then i'm kind of
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my point was you know if it's gender-based harassment so if it's like groping or anything
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like that do you feel like that's kind of a different story too if they're just like you know
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having a joke is there well one my first question is do men get gender-based harassment yes so men get
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bullied much harder by other men than they would ever do to a woman yeah i think a woman in a male
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workplace is going to get way more favors yeah and also is that because it's for like sexual gain
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from their boss or whatever well i think all men will let sleep with you if you let them yeah pretty
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much yeah just yeah you know uh if you're half attractive anyway um i don't think men should
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be grabbing you at work yeah so we could do a no touching the women policy but a lot of times
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women will be flirting with the men right they'll have their boobs out like half the time these chicks
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are dressed like hookers right and then they're like well why did the men grab my well i mean it's
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kind of confusing to the i know nowadays like the ass grabbing is like taboo the men don't even do it
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anymore but like 10 15 years ago that used to be like you know like people just kind of like did that
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you know what i mean like it's the environment's changed yeah and so the women will be half naked
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yeah boobs out and then be like why are the men deserve to like have that kind of well i'm saying
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it's mixed signals because you're signaling to the guy flirt with me hit on me and then say oh but
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don't do it so do you feel like they're kind of asking for it in a way because of the way that
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they're dressed i i would say they're signaling that they want it i would not say they're asking for
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it i would say they're signaling like if i go out i i dress a different way when i go to work than if
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i go out yeah you know and so and it i think one sends the signal of professionalism one sends that
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you're going out to talk you know yeah but then i think most women don't go to the office like with
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their boobs out like most people do wear like professional dress in the workplace surely really
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is that like isn't there rules on that like skirt has to be like below the knee i don't know i've
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never worked in an office but then so what happens when they say they give those dress codes do the
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women say that's so reasonable or do they cry sexism well if it was equal for men and women if
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the dress code was like an equal one then will they say it's reasonable if it was equal then yeah
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do we have how can the dress could be equal when we don't wear the same things well just as in like
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you know if they're saying that women have to wear a skirt for example and can't wear trousers
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but like if a woman wants to wear trousers then she should be able to okay so my you know it's
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funny my high school we had pants yeah and everybody had pants i went to catholic school
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so we had uniforms oh nice and the issue was in the other high schools and the reason they did that
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was because before they had skirts and the girls would roll them up yeah come on you all did it at
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school yeah you can't make this shit up so you know women won't follow the dress code anyway
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school yeah school is a professional environment right right yeah you're actually like people don't
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hook up in the workplace you know what i mean it's like so they roll the skirts up and then the teachers
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say hey you got to roll them down and how many times do we get videos on social media of the girls
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saying oh this is sexist right okay well you want it to be in a man's world yeah and then they say okay
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we don't want the attention from men we don't want to be harassed so they say okay let's protect you
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from that here are some dress codes and they say well i don't want the dress codes i want my ass
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out but then i feel like the dress code doesn't even protect you from that the amount of times i've
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been like shouted out in the street catcalled when i'm literally wearing no makeup and sweats like i
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wear no makeup on a daily basis and that's like when i get catcalled the most sometimes i feel like
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it doesn't even they don't even pay like take into consideration what you're wearing well just wait
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10 years you know you're still 25 you know what i mean my mom's 57 and she's still a cat i think
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you're conflicting a bit a bit of the argument because the reality is how many we say this like
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men are really going to their workplace to try and jeopardize their where they are getting their
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bread from the reality is even if anyone is going to sexually harass you at work it's going to be
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someone that deserves to get what they are going to get but the reality is a lot of women go to work
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and make the workplace not conducive for most men not for abusers they make the workplace
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non-conducive for most men by coming with all these complaints this um attitude and all of that
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and then they also still at the same time want to be able to dress however they want so it's like okay
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you don't want the rules you want to be able to signal give off all these sexual signals at work
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but then you also want to complain when the men reciprocate and respond to your signals so it's
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kind of like you can't eat your cake and have you