She COULD Not Accept THIS
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the controversial topic of abortion, and the pros and cons of pro-life vs. pro-choice regarding abortion. Is it still illegal to have a child at conception? How long should it be legal to carry a child to term? What is the difference between a fetus and a child, and what are the differences between the two?
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um yeah so personally i think obviously let's get the facts out there that obviously it is murder
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right killing an unborn child is still murder um and obviously it is a separate person like
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people think oh it's my child um or it's my partner's child but actually it's a separate
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person um so yeah like it is a fact however we have a free will and we have a choice no matter
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what people say no matter what they do we still have a choice no one can change us not god not
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devil we can only change ourselves and we have that free will so whatever we decide it should
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be our choice okay um what about you two um so you're talking to me um i feel like like any
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challenge you have to be ready for it if you're not ready for it then the results may go ways that
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you can't even anticipate so i feel like the circumstances that people are in before they
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have a child should be taken into account heavily when making such decisions
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um just the same kind of i don't think you should bring a child into a situation if they're going
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to be resented or unwanted um okay like just a quick question for my own self that's just been
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triggered is like is it still classified as a human being when it can't breathe on its own
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um i mean i think that depends who you ask yeah but like scientifically like if you can't take your
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own breath is it still classified i can share the science oh god yeah go ahead go ahead um well from
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the from the point of fertilization when the sperm and the egg meet that's scientifically the beginning
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of a new human being start so that's when we all our lives all began and then you just need time
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to grow into a more you know adult version of yourself so that is when life begins so is it
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still classified even though you're not dependent on your own 90 90 of um scientists say that life
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begins at conception um so i'm curious um okay so for the people that are pro-life so one two three
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this good mixed panel today when do you so would you guys say that abortion should be outlawed
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completely completely you would say yeah if you see me if you say yes raise your hand
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you think it should be outlawed completely okay for the people that are pro-choice um when how long
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up to abortion like should abortion be legal to tell um up to birth up to six months up to three months
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or if you have a different number but those are the three most common answers i seem to get go ahead
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i mean of course not up until the day that you're like gonna give birth but i think the day that
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it's at now what is it like 24 weeks or something yeah you guys have six months also six months yeah
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i think you know that the doctors and people are saying six months is okay then i think six months
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is okay okay i mean personally i wouldn't have one you know six months i would try and get as done as
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early as possible but you know six months then that's six months okay at what point does it for
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like maybe this is just my lack of knowledge but at what point does it form into from a fetus
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to an actual being like where is the form of the brain and like where is the form of the heart
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like where does that actual scientific process like uh transform you know yeah you know this right
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um well i mean development is an ongoing process right so actually the heart starts beating at
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around 21 days um and so a lot of women don't even know they're pregnant then um and the brain waves
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uh around six weeks at eight weeks uh the baby actually has um the 90 of the same organs that we
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that we have as adults so it's actually very surprising wait wait say that again the eight weeks
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from fertilization so eight weeks if you think about it most women find out they're pregnant
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you know maybe they miss their period and they find out five six six weeks or something i don't even
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know that so eight weeks that baby that or that embryo has um yeah has 90 of the same organs that you
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and i have at what point do we stop like where's the transformation from like embryo to fetus to baby
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i mean these are just names so these are just scientific terms so um the word fetus just means
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little one in latin and that is from nine weeks we call it an embryo from the first point it's called a
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zygote then we call it an embryo up to um eight weeks and then from nine weeks onwards it's referred
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to as a fetus when that baby when that child's born it's now a baby then it becomes a toddler then it
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becomes you know child teenager adult these are just stages of development they don't say whether
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we're you know how valuable we are we don't say you know that a teenager is more valuable than a
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toddler simply because it's older because it breathes for itself well a toddler breathes for itself doesn't
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it yeah so i'm saying that a teenager is not more valuable than it's an embryo doesn't breathe for
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itself right it's required someone else's breath to survive is that when you think that life
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conception like so at birth i'm kind of unpacking this as we go which is kind of interesting
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actually it's something that um i don't know your name which is cas something that cas said was like
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oh hang on a second like at what point is it actually still dependent on like my breath to
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survive like is it's not its own is it a human like it made me think is it a human being yet because it's
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not actually being on its own it has to breathe through me it requires everything from when i say
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me i'm referring to uh the female reproductive organs like it's not being its own human at that
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point it has to breathe through me and that got me really thinking about the actual stages of this
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process because i'm just thinking like that argument then you could abort it like a couple days before
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you give birth which which i i don't know about you i think we'd agree that's that's a little late
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yeah you know i mean i would agree with you yeah yeah and so um yeah that's that if we go by the breath
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argument um but do you have any memories anyone in the room of eight weeks old because you're saying
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oh eight weeks it's breathing at three weeks it's breathing because i mean i don't have any i don't have any
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memories before the age of like five but i hope they didn't kill me at four um what about like
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medical issues like what's your opinion on that like if a doctor said to like a mother like your
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child's severely disabled that's not going to have a good quality of life like they have a chance of
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dying before they even reach a certain age like what's your opinion on that yeah i mean these these are
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real challenges and real hard issues for any parent to have to go go through um but we i'd ask ask you
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you know let's say i i'm pregnant and then i have i have a child and my child's disabled you know my
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child is born and i find that my child's disabled can i kill my child once it's born well i mean
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obviously not but well why not why not if it's disabled it's it's not going to have a good quality
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of life is it yeah but at that point it's already been born i mean you're not just going to kill your
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child because once it's been born it's disabled but so what's the difference between that born child
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and that unborn child well i don't think abortion's murder so that's my opinion on it so so so so then
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your so your issue is not necessarily about disability it's about um choice yeah so i was just saying like
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if they said you know some children live until like they're one they're two they're three if
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they're really really disabled and they're going to be completely dependent on the parent for the
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rest of their life and the doctor's saying you know they're going to be like really disabled would
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you be would you still say to like a mother like don't get an abortion like carry on and you know birth
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the child yeah i mean i don't think that the disabled people are less valuable or less human than
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able-bodied people and whether i don't think they should be killed born or unborn because i think
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science tells us that they're just as much human in the womb as they are outside of the womb as many
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of you know i was just banned on tiktok and we are demonetized on a daily basis on this platform
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