She DEMOLISHED Feminist Deception for Fat-Chicks
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In this episode, we talk about confidence, beauty standards, and why we should all be a 10 out of 10. We also talk about the beauty standards society has placed on women, and how we view them.
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um a lot of ass a lot of yeah it was a lot of everything a lot of everything anyways so i went
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around and asked people to rank themselves one to ten and the most common answer i got from women
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was i'm a ten i'm a ten i'm a ten and to me like a ten is that you're perfect um which to me is a
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little bit narcissistic so why why are people so quick to say that they're a ten oh i mean you have
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to kind of think that like people will always be drawn to confidence you can't just go around
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saying i mean i mean even if you are like subjectively a i don't know five six maybe um
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you can't you can't let everyone know that you have to be like no listen i'm a ten
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you don't think it's delusion i think confidence is sexy so even if you aren't like objectively or
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conventionally attractive someone that is very charming is still seen as attractive or just
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charming in general but it's not like true confidence or is it just arrogance i don't think
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it's arrogance because i don't think having confidence makes you arrogant but it's like why
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are they confident so if they know that they're not they don't really feel that they're a ten but
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they're just saying that they're a ten it's a good point i guess it's more than like attractiveness as
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in how you look it's almost like i feel confident in myself you cannot be like you might have like
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pimples or like scars on your face but if you're a confident person you can still be a ten no
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wouldn't you say that means you have no room to improve i think i understand what you mean but i
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feel like um i don't really like this idea of like humans having to constantly improve themselves
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because it means that we're in like a perpetual state of not enough i feel like it's kind of good
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that some people have accepted like oh i'm just good as i am because then you know it's a happy state
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to be in yeah but you could be good as you are as a five that's not an insult that's average you
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know yeah there'll always be someone that will uh like you yeah there's someone for everyone definitely
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there's more there's more women on the planet than men
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yeah so like by the numbers there's not some people get left behind you know what i mean
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um so um i have a clip for us to react to where we kind of dives into this a little bit blessing
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pull up the first clip i i kept my original stance yeah this one so this was you can see how far the
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show's come because this was an old show but it started from the beginning blessing
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yeah yeah started from the i don't know why it started there yeah
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11 if like being a 10 is you're perfect so do you do you think you're perfect no i think there's beauty
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and imperfection you know perfection is not uh why are you talking over me
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not out to this glamour and beauty and there's a difference anywhere just go chill i believe that
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i'm an 11 out of 10 just because i'm and i'm allowed to do that way and no i genuinely believe
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i was not done talking um i genuinely believe that perfection is not real but there's beauty and
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imperfection and i think no like you're you're you're very attractive like i think you're like i think
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you're attractive but but but no no but wait wait wait can you let me finish so what i'm saying
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like like to me i would never say i'm a 10 because like a 10 is like perfect and i don't think i'm
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perfect so i get like is that but we were saying looks wise right yeah and i genuinely see myself as
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genuinely beautiful i genuinely see myself as someone who is a goddess because at the end of the day
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society is what decides on beauty standards right right and i can i don't have to follow
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that beauty standard right i genuinely believe that i'm beautiful yeah well and i'm not taking
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that away from you i just like i just could i just could i just could never say like i wouldn't say
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you're perfect do you know what i mean yeah yeah and that's and that's what i mean so i'm just playing
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around yeah i think i'm really a 10 out of 10 like genuinely i feel like i'm a 10 out of 10.
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yeah i take care of myself what has given you that uh my looks we were only talking about looks
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we weren't talking about personality or skill or anything like that is is that based on the way
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people have treated you throughout your life no this is based on how i was raised and how i view myself
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and how i've worked hard to see the beauty that i deserve to see so you i worked so you see an 11 out
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of 10 beauty i would bro it's a joke well okay okay but we could say 10 out of 10. yeah yeah yeah
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like i just said i consider myself a 10 out of 10 for sure so you think you're up there with so who
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would you see in like the media that's like a 10 out of 10 women why are we going based off of media
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people no like why does that matter well because that was based on society's beauty standards and
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what they think is a 10 out of 10. well because that like society's beauty but i don't give a
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fuck about society that's the key here is that i i have my own viewpoint right like okay so who would
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you class as a 10 out of 10. why does that matter well because like in order in order to scale someone
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one to ten someone has to not be a 10. right so so so i fully agree with that yeah and so but i'm not
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but we asked what i think i am what he thinks he is what you think you are i'm not going based off of
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anybody else except for what i see in the mirror right so but then like that almost wouldn't be a
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scale that like because then you have no way to measure okay so it's like your way of rebelling
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against the scale almost forget rebellion it's just genuinely how i feel right and i'm not saying like
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i like again like i think i think you're beautiful yeah and i genuinely think you're beautiful too
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so i think it's just for you to say that you're a five out of ten right but i just think i live
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like in compared to you then are you comparing her to you because you're a 10. no i'm not making
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comparisons i'm telling her in her own right she is beautiful so you would say she's a 10 then yes
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but like in her own right but i just think if i was if i was a 10 i would have had modeling
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but do you know what i'm saying like i think if i was like a 10 right then i would have had
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modeling i would have had modeling contracts by now i would have had people i would have had results
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to show that i'm i would have had nfl nba players but remember that's all based on beauty standards
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that are set by that's based on reality i do like that's society that's reality and like but i don't
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see the same way that other people do though yeah let me ask the question do you think there's an
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objective beauty standard yes can you describe objective to me as in like what the baseline okay
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something like an objective society beauty standards so for example art is there good art or is all art the
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same i feel like that's kind of different because art art is also something that's all about
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perspective subjective yeah it's objective yeah to do but in in in if you look at medieval buildings
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especially americans notice this when they come here they love our ancient architecture right compared
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to their standard so there is a standard and like a stick figure versus like picasso
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i guess um when it comes to that you know art is something that you put time and skill and detail
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into i can't really say the same for people because my point is that as as genuinely human beings can
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identify what's beauty and what's not okay so what is your reaction to this clip
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what he was saying about um you know we have ideas about what's beautiful now i do i do think i'm
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pretty sure like your brain is kind of programmed to recognize certain things as more aesthetically
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pleasing and even though it's subjective it's i'm pretty sure there's even like certain measurements of
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a specific type of face that humans are more um find more symmetry yeah like that yeah there's been
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things like studies about women with like neotenic faces like baby faces that men tend to find more
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attractive and babies like stare stare at for longer so i do feel like there is an objective um scale of
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attractiveness that you can judge people on obviously it's not like cross-cultural like maybe
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in the east it's different but i feel like in the west you can definitely say a person you could
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write a person on a scale based on what collectively in the west people think and you could like rate
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that on one to ten do you believe that beauty is in the eye of the a holder the eye of the beholder
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i guess so because someone in east asia might not find um someone in the west attractive um so it really
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depends on that person like what they grew up with like what they grew up was um what they their
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society grew up with that's attractive would affect how they would perceive the person so it's like
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pictures of people that you might not find attractive in like medieval times but back then people would
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like kill themselves or done crazy things just to be with this person but like now we're looking like
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oh i don't see the attraction there so i definitely feel like it's definitely a subjective experience
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experience what do you think yeah no i definitely feel that way as well i also think um your taste
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changes as you get older what you might find attractive and what you're drawn to initially
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initially when you're younger will ultimately change as you get older um you might go for like the
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the obvious pick but then as you get older you might start thinking
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so different things are more beautiful do you think that's for men or for women oh
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because because that sounds like a woman's point of view not necessarily a man's like i think yeah i
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think when we get older we're like well we don't necessarily need these things but men i it seems
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like they just like hot likes me yeah they're more uh visually yeah motivated than us yeah but like
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they're more primal than like women like i don't know she hot in there yeah but it's kind of cute
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because like some women like oh like i want my man to have a nice job to be so intelligent but i go
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like oh i think you're cute and that's kind of enough for some what do you think is beauty in the eye
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of the beholder um i yes in the term in in the um when we're thinking about character so i think
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personally for me i i write myself a four physically really what yeah definitely not four
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but but i genuinely like it doesn't bother me i'm just i'm very objective about it i i
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rate myself a four however i honestly believe what we're missing today is like uh everybody's saying
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that what it appears to be everybody's saying oh i'm a 10 i'm a 10 but they misconstrued it in
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terms of their personality everything as a package they're a 10 so there is no room for improvement
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and um i mean i'm thinking about like at what point does humility come in uh you know it seems like
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non-existent therefore they won't really do any you know introspection and are they self-aware and all
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that stuff so i'm just saying just saying you're a 10 it's just it's problematic but from what i'm saying
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is that um so i think i'm a four but with my personality and everything and my character all
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these very important things they kind of make the package they make the person and these are the ways
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that people fall in love um you know with somebody's character so i think that's what they're
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fundamentally missing when they just say they're a 10 okay so you're a 10 but what about your
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personality i'm a 10 there as well i'm just perfect all around which just comes across as arrogance to me
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what do you guys think of the body positivity movement
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in terms of what do you think it's good for society no it isn't what why well uh whose whose body
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are we saying that it's that that they're fine like what what what change has have we seen
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i don't know i'm just i just wanted to know how you think uh well for example like i think about a
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while ago i saw uh a clearly obese woman uh on the cover of a magazine i can't remember what
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magazine it was but then they said very clearly this is healthy and i'm just like are they trying
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to manipulate me into thinking that that's healthy and she was in sportswear but clearly she's not
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it's like clearly you ain't going to the gym i i know right and she's been on the treadmill in a
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mitt like come on but but what what i find generally heartbreaking is that okay yes i'm
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i'm physically slim right so people are gonna be like oh you're just like fat shaming but i
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genuinely have concerns for her so when i see people who are like oh yeah girl you're a 10 sorry
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i can't speak like that i'm terrible but yeah yeah you know yes queen and i'm like i'm it breaks my
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heart i'm just like you don't care about her you're not telling her you're not encouraging her
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to change you know there's a risk of diabetes are they saying um diabetes is a 10 are they saying
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asthma is a 10 i'm saying depression is a 10 uh so yeah you can say yeah you're a 10 but no one's
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there when she's crying all alone and she has all these health problems what happens to all that
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energy then and it is really heartbreaking as soon and and i've seen plenty of people who have been
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obese and they've uh you know they made tiktoks and stuff and they say um on the tiktok uh i've done
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this to myself or i'm going to take responsibility and then you see their progression and they're so much
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happier and they're not in that delusion and somebody who genuinely cares about you will
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tell you the ugly truth but they are telling you they're not telling you a beautiful lie
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and that's what you want from a friend and that's what we should have in society if you have everybody's
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like oh yeah you're fine yeah you're fine yeah you're fine um it's actually really unfair and i'm
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just thinking like in a way i think it's really sinister because if i was fat and my friend told me
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you're fine i'm like she doesn't give a shit about me she really doesn't she would have told me
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this is you're actually ill you're not well and the moment i get on that treadmill and she's there
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by my side you know championing me on i'm like what that is a friend so the moment i see people are
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like encouraging very unhealthy behavior uh it really does genuinely break my heart and i i just
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like my genetics or whatever is you know people say oh you're slim you can afford to say that
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no i genuinely care about people and i encourage them and when i see people obviously are
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yeah it really questions um it makes me question their motives like you have an agenda why are you
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you know encouraging clearly unhealthy behavior and is that why you don't agree you don't think
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the body positivity team movement is positive no i i well it's false body positivity because it's saying
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you're fine the way you are and there is no you know improve there is no uh they're not we're not
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championing improvement is what i'm saying okay i think that's a good point that you made um but i
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would like to like draw upon like the opposite side of that like obviously with body positivity it's not
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just about um like weight it's about like skin texture skin color yeah but that's like one of the
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biggest things i've seen you you've seen more between like weight yeah i don't i don't really see skin
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texture skin color marks that kind of thing or like people that don't shave people hairier
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yeah i mean i don't want to see that why are they putting that i miss the days when models would
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make me feel bad about myself and i would put their picture on the treadmill and i'd start running
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i didn't bring them back i think you've got to find a balance because if you go to the other end of the
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spectrum and someone's really underweight and it's being advertised it's it's not gonna that's not
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so great i think you are you will ultimately ultimately you are fine the way you are because
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i don't think no one can tell you anything obviously if you're having these health issues
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then definitely needs to be addressed but um yeah to be honest with you so you think you're fine the way
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you are at 300 pounds not necessarily you're not i do think you should you should definitely do
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something about that but i think it's about being realistic if these types of things are being shown
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on media then i think it should be shown in a way to show that listen whether it's bad or good uh there
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are people like this and they're still part of society etc etc it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't deem you uh
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uh a certain way in a negative way if that makes sense don't you think it normalizes it
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because shouldn't obesity not be normal shouldn't it be abnormal isn't that what we should want i think
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obesity shouldn't be the norm but i do feel like there are people that are just going to be bigger
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there's people going to be smaller regardless like if we put everyone on the same diet people will
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still be different sizes but not like morbidly i did say like not obese i said like people are going
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to be different sizes i think um it'd be interesting if body positivity went in the in the way in the
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direction that we're like okay they're going to be people that are different sizes and they're still
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a part of society they still should be respected we still need to treat them like humans i think
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that's kind of what the direction it should have gone in instead of like normalizing um being morbidly
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obese i think that's what your point but i but i think people will say when you say all shapes and
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sizes they will put in morbidly obese like that's fine unless you explicitly say except morbidly obese but
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then you will be you know shamed for fat shaming no like i mean like genetically like you're going
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to be shorter i might be taller someone might be i don't i don't want to say that use the term big
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boned because it doesn't really make sense but some people are going to be broader and have wider
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shoulders like this is like the reason why a lot of people pursue different sports um you just built
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different you know regardless of diet and how how you train you can't really change your genetics by
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that much certain people achieve certain muscle formations that certain people won't have
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yeah i want to show you guys um something that i saw on twitter today i'm gonna blessing this is
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i'm gonna send it to you you may send it on instagram yeah because it's an extra one i don't think it's
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like normal to the extent here let me uh okay i saw a picture on twitter today that was like a beach
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from the 70s or like it was before the 70s maybe 60s 50s and obesity really wasn't normal then if you
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go to a third world country it's not normal even even like there weren't even really overweight people
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um and so i feel like when you put them on the cover of magazines it's like you're saying
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find like find me attractive you must find me attractive and when you're like uh not really like
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i wouldn't want to look like that ever at all not even a little bit and they say you're body shaming
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but it's just like honest do you know what i have more issue with i don't really have an issue with
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putting someone that's larger in front of a magazine i have more of an issue with like the magazine's
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intentions because a lot of these big magazines have promoted like hyper skinny or underweight women
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for like the past 10 years or past decades before and then just to put a larger woman in front of the
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magazine all of a sudden is like yeah let's just forget all the past women we promoted before and
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this is the new standard of beauty i don't really like that kind of narrative where like okay we're
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just going to switch up now and this is what we support when that's really not what they're about
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what do you what do you mean because like let's say you use like like marilyn monroe she wasn't
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underweight and she was like a pinnacle of beauty yeah but she's like one woman yeah i think that's the
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exception not the rule when it comes to everybody had that hourglass figure that's why it's so iconic
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yeah i feel like that was like because of the fashion at the time if you look at the kind of
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the dresses that they wear it's very like skirts are very high-waisted and it's very tight at this
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point i think it's more to the fashion and emulating this type of style also the body type followed
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if you look more towards the 80s they're more sporty wear some women are a bit more like
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fitter more athletic looking i think we kind of the bodies followed the fashion so like now you can
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see like low-wasted clothing coming into fashion women going to want to be a bit more skinner skinnier
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or thinner you see kim kardashian taking her implants out to follow that kind of fashion trend that's
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going to come in wow okay yeah like y2k you might have heard of it like a lot of that kind of fashion
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is coming back so a lot of people are going to try and be skinnier to match that fashion i think like
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fashion and the way people want to dress and look like kind of follow each other yeah yeah but and it's
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silly because why change your body for a micro trend just be healthy you know but it's it's it's how
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it's how it goes i just think hourglass has always been like maryland like even if you look at audrey
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hepper and there's another like i like i think it's not i think the hip to waist ratio yeah you can
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be very thin and still have an hourglass figure because you've got really wide hips and a small like
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rib cage yeah but you're not going to be like marilyn monroe marilyn roe was uh no i i agree with you i think
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she wasn't very thin but she had that shape yeah like i think there's a difference between
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like you know saying like we have different body types but either way like no no one's turning down
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jennifer aniston and she's built more like square she was a pinnacle of beauty in the early 2000s
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she's not she doesn't have that hourglass you know shape but you know in the same era like kim
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kardashian was also beautiful like i think it's just like thin thinner oh this is the picture
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from like the like look at it there's not really obesity back then everyone's balling what is this
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in america is there a picture of are you going to do is there is there more than one i thought there
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was like three oh it would have been good to have a contrast everybody kind of looks the same yeah
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that's what i'm saying like everyone was thin for the most part so it's almost like we're normalizing
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something that shouldn't be normal yeah and saying find me a try like that's and my other issue is
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that people that are overweight feel like they can't be made fun of just like everyone else oh something
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crazy happened to me the other day so i was in like a market in greenwich and i wanted to buy some
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jeans and i was like there's like a way of trying them on like using your neck to see if it fits your
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waist it's like a cool hack like you go around your neck and if it fits then it fits you interesting
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and i ended up buying these jeans and like they fit and the woman's like oh they look great on you i was like
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oh perfect i'm gonna buy them and i'm walking away and the woman shouts i hate skinny people
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so imagine like i was just thinking yeah yeah like in a joke way but like i just thought to myself
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like no one really makes the reverse of that joke and always like cliche to say you say i hate fat
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people people be like yeah like no one batted an eyelid yeah but i feel like we've really normalized
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i don't know like these back like side comments towards women that are a lot thinner and i feel like
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we can't really talk about people that are obese the same way as we used to the transparency is gone
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i feel everything's sugar-coated now anyways yeah i feel like if when someone tells you oh like
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you've lost weight like it still has that same i just feel like it's the same way of saying oh like
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you're fat now i'd be like oh i'd feel a bit like insecure like yeah no my parents don't really hold
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back i'm not gonna lie me either i'm like but i feel like it was good for me though like i i think
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i would have been like i've always been the type to like struggle like i've had to work really hard
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because i eat really bad like i'm an athlete so it kind of evens out but like like honestly my mom
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when i was younger would she would she would fashion me a little bit she'd be like oh you got your
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but honestly like it hurt at the time but i'm so glad she did i got on the treadmill
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i think there's definitely something that is important of like a parent
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being like honest with their like son or daughter especially if they get into like a place that's
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unhealthy i think um it's a shame because a lot of children are abuse like obese in childhood never
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really lose um will stay obese for the rest of life and then they have problems with diabetes they
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die earlier and i feel like if that was just addressed like when they were young if that honestly
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like like your mother like maybe not fat shaming but just you know i'm gonna help you with your
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health that conversation with heart i think would really improve like health in general i feel like
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fat shaming was the best way to do it you look fat if it comes from a place of love yeah why not
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if it's someone you know you may not know then it's just like sorry how dare you but if it's
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someone like if your family it's different yeah yeah of course like why why not it's the truth it's not
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like because being fat i mean it's not it doesn't have to be negative like unless you're obese and
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you have actual health problems ultimately perhaps you need to change something in your life if you
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feel like you're gaining too much weight but if someone's telling you are like listen i feel like
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um you've put on a bit too much or it's just like oh yeah no i know i know i've realized as well
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it's nothing it's nothing uh too personal you shouldn't feel so attacked okay blessing do the
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girls are objective or do you think they think they're hotter than they are
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or do they underrate themselves go around personally i think it depends on the person because growing
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up i'm obviously not skinny hi everyone i'm not skinny so growing up i was never the beauty standard
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for anyone so like all my friends were getting chatted out by people blah blah blah blah and i
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was just the other one you know so like i never really thought of myself as an attractive person
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like i would never call myself anything more than a thought but now like i don't really care about
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what anyone thinks about me like i've grown into myself and i've i've i'm comfortable with who i am now
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that like even if you guys call me delusion or whatever i think i'm maybe not a 10 let's not go
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that far but like definitely an eight per so like whether you guys think i am or not
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that's got nothing to do with her but like yeah what is it that took you from a four to an eight
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if nothing's changed what is it that takes loving myself and and looking in the mirror and not
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being disgusted at what i see i understand that yeah so but that doesn't you're you're not necessarily
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being objective about how other people view you right because isn't that what a rating really is
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like what you think the vast majority of people like like if i rated myself one to ten i give myself a
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five i think i'm normal looking and i just think it's based on my results i think if i was an eight
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nine or ten i would have had modeling contracts because people in the top 20 of beauty they get they get
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modeling contracts so what is beauty i mean there's a lot of things like if you i mean you
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can you can go online and have people rate your pictures and they rank you one to ten that's wild
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and and so you can get you can get a lot of data that says how attractive you are in society
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and men will rate you women will rate you like every day how we look is like how we represent ourselves
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it's not fun but it's just like being honest so um and it's also like you can take good dating apps
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to like you know everyone's tinder bumble like they have a ranking for you behind the scenes
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yeah damn yeah well so um i don't understand when girls say like i'm an ape because or sometimes i hear
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girls say time because i hear this a lot where they say like because i love myself and i'm like
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confident now but don't you think attractiveness is based on results they may be but i don't care
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about those results to be honest but do you think then you're not being objective about your how
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attractive you are or how attractive anyone else might be i guess not but like yeah that stuff's not
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really important to me yeah i think when when someone when someone rates somebody why why does
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that have anything to do with them like if you rate me if someone rated like somebody a three and
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it's just like okay that's that's your opinion like it's not okay so as many of you know i was just
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