JustPearlyThings - November 06, 2023


She DISMANTLED This Man for Being Selfish


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In this episode, we discuss the question, "Do Women Owe Society Children?" Do women owe society children? Do we owe anything to society? What could we possibly owe them? Is it possible for women to have kids?

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00:00:00.000 So today's topic is, do women owe society children? 0.98
00:00:06.960 So there is a study by Morgan Stanley that says 45% of women are expected to be single
00:00:17.080 and childless by 2030, per a recent projection.
00:00:20.620 In 2019, Morgan Stanley published an article outlining women's impact on the American economy. 0.95
00:00:26.620 The number of prime working-age women in the U.S. has been increasing steadily,
00:00:32.520 and most of them are single and completely focused on their career.
00:00:36.460 These women will continue to have a greater representation in the workforce, helping to boost wages. 0.99
00:00:46.140 But these cultural trends are going to have a tremendous impact on the future of American society.
00:00:52.840 Morgan Stanley estimates that 45% of women in their prime working years between the ages of 25 to 44
00:01:00.040 will be single and childless by the time 2030 arrives.
00:01:05.120 So, do women owe society children? 1.00
00:01:09.260 I feel like we owe it to our, to ourselves, to everyone.
00:01:17.460 I feel like it's nature, it's, it's what, it's history, it's everything around us, it's life.
00:01:26.500 But to society, no.
00:01:31.180 Okay, so we owe it to ourselves, but not...
00:01:33.180 Yeah, we owe it to ourselves, and obviously, if we are with a partner that we love and we see a future with,
00:01:42.300 and who's going to stand by us, then yeah, we, I would have a child with that person.
00:01:51.800 I, I, I would definitely most want to.
00:01:54.980 Do women owe society anything? 1.00
00:01:56.980 Um...
00:01:58.980 That's a hard one.
00:02:02.980 Uh...
00:02:04.980 Nope.
00:02:06.980 No?
00:02:07.980 Uh, it's not...
00:02:09.980 I feel like it can be double-sided, though, that's the thing.
00:02:14.980 It's like, there's, we can say, do women owe... 1.00
00:02:18.980 But it, it depends on the context.
00:02:23.980 What, what, what could we possibly owe them?
00:02:25.980 Sorry, can I interject?
00:02:26.980 Um, sure, go ahead.
00:02:27.980 All right.
00:02:28.980 Sorry, I'm not trying to be rude, but, um...
00:02:31.980 When you're saying the word, owe, what do you mean by that?
00:02:34.980 Like, cause, we don't owe this economy anything.
00:02:38.980 Do you owe anybody anything?
00:02:39.980 No.
00:02:40.980 Nothing.
00:02:41.980 Okay.
00:02:42.980 What about being, like, a, a tax-paying, contributing member of society?
00:02:45.980 No, that's, that's legislation.
00:02:46.980 That's legislation.
00:02:47.980 Well, Michael, it goes back to the question, do you owe anything to society?
00:02:50.980 And, sorry to cut you.
00:02:51.980 Okay.
00:02:52.980 You were talking about USA.
00:02:53.980 We're in UK.
00:02:54.980 All your reference, all your statistics are from US.
00:02:57.980 Well, the other, the other stat I'm gonna bring up is 1.56 is the birth rate per woman.
00:03:02.980 And, it's similar in the UK, too.
00:03:04.980 It's similar, but what you was referencing to was from US.
00:03:07.980 Okay, and what's your, what's your point?
00:03:09.980 Well, my point is, to the fact of, we don't owe anything to anyone.
00:03:13.980 Okay.
00:03:14.980 Any formal being, any person that you see, we don't owe anyone to nothing.
00:03:19.980 Okay.
00:03:20.980 Nobody anything.
00:03:21.980 No one anything.
00:03:22.980 Okay.
00:03:23.980 Okay.
00:03:24.980 So, what do you think?
00:03:25.980 The word owe is getting my back up.
00:03:27.980 But, I feel like that's, if you owe something, that must mean I'm in debt somewhere.
00:03:32.980 You're in debt to someone.
00:03:33.980 That's it.
00:03:34.980 Yeah.
00:03:35.980 You didn't choose to be born.
00:03:36.980 First of all, and second of all, I strongly agree that there's a reason why us, us as women,
00:03:43.980 can have children, and we're supposed to birth kids.
00:03:46.980 But, when I decide to do that, how I decide to do that, with who I decide to do that with,
00:03:51.980 I know a lot of people that don't even want to have kids, period.
00:03:53.980 So, but for me, 100%, I feel like we're here to, you know, we do need to reproduce.
00:03:59.980 But, to owe, definitely not.
00:04:01.980 So, how do we have any structure in society if nobody owes anybody anything?
00:04:06.980 Because, you know, no society never gave me anything.
00:04:10.980 It's my mom and dad that gave me life, and a higher being if you believe in it.
00:04:14.980 Does society give you protection?
00:04:16.980 No.
00:04:17.980 Nothing?
00:04:18.980 Nothing.
00:04:19.980 You can't call the police?
00:04:20.980 The only thing the society gives me, for my personal opinion, I'm not talking for everyone.
00:04:24.980 Okay.
00:04:25.980 I'm talking for myself.
00:04:26.980 Okay.
00:04:27.980 The only thing society gives me is debt.
00:04:29.980 Can I say something?
00:04:30.980 Does society give you, how do you, how does society give you debt?
00:04:33.980 Because, where I come from, how I grew up, when it comes to protection, it's not the society or the government that protects me.
00:04:41.980 When it comes to feeding me, and giving me opportunities, it wasn't the government that giving me opportunities or anything to make me prosper in life.
00:04:51.980 So, I don't owe anything to society.
00:04:55.980 Okay.
00:04:56.980 If you talk about my lineage, and my lineage, and where my family comes from, that's something different.
00:05:01.980 Okay.
00:05:02.980 But me as a human being, to talk about society, society ain't giving me nothing.
00:05:06.980 If you were, if you were born, if you were born at any other period of history, you might see things a little different.
00:05:11.980 But I'm not.
00:05:12.980 So, I only can talk for my truth.
00:05:13.980 Do you understand?
00:05:14.980 So, I'm not talking for humanity.
00:05:16.980 I'm talking for me, that kind of artist.
00:05:18.980 What do you mean?
00:05:19.980 What do you mean, my truth?
00:05:20.980 My truth, like I said.
00:05:21.980 Like, isn't there just the truth?
00:05:22.980 Let me elaborate on this one.
00:05:23.980 Definitely not.
00:05:24.980 Definitely not.
00:05:25.980 There's definitely not just the truth.
00:05:27.980 No.
00:05:28.980 Because how your, your idea of even going back to the word, oh, is going to be completely different to either me, or a few other people sitting here today, is going to have a complete different idea just because of our heritage and because of where we come from.
00:05:45.980 I feel like you just have to speak for yourself, that's it.
00:05:48.980 That's it.
00:05:49.980 And we should leave that there.
00:05:50.980 Go ahead.
00:05:51.980 I would just like to express solemn gratitude to Western society for allowing all of us in this room of all different backgrounds, skin colors, ethnicities, religions, to sit in a room with a degree of civility without experiencing any sort of a mob attack on any of us or any of us being bought and sold.
00:06:06.980 I think it's a brilliant thing that Western society gave us.
00:06:09.980 And I think we do owe a debt to that, at least, at the very least, a debt of respect and a debt of gratitude.
00:06:14.980 I just want to express that.
00:06:15.980 Sorry, sir.
00:06:16.980 What do you mean by bought and sold?
00:06:17.980 I mean that if, I mean that based on my ethnic background and yours, depending on when we were born and where we were born, society would have treated us differently, myself included.
00:06:26.980 Does that make sense?
00:06:27.980 And so we owe tremendous gratitude that we have a Western society, we can have a civil conversation, discourse and pursuit of truth.
00:06:34.980 And I'm going to be honest with you, it doesn't make sense to me.
00:06:38.980 And I'm not going to talk for you.
00:06:39.980 You're talking for me.
00:06:41.980 I'm not talking for you.
00:06:42.980 How is he talking for you?
00:06:43.980 Because you said to me, it makes sense to me.
00:06:45.980 How can you tell me it makes sense?
00:06:46.980 I didn't say that.
00:06:47.980 You said it makes sense.
00:06:48.980 Like I live my life as a black human being, a young black man in this, in this land.
00:06:54.980 The discriminations that come upon me is different to you.
00:06:58.980 I'm not going to tell you to digest what I've been through to live your life in any different aspect.
00:07:05.980 Do you get what I mean?
00:07:06.980 I think you're speaking from pain.
00:07:09.980 No, definitely not from pain.
00:07:10.980 It's from reality.
00:07:11.980 But it's my reality.
00:07:12.980 It feels that way.
00:07:13.980 It's my reality, darling.
00:07:14.980 Yeah, of course it's your reality.
00:07:15.980 Yeah, that's it.
00:07:16.980 It's your reality.
00:07:17.980 Yeah, that's it.
00:07:18.980 It's your pain.
00:07:19.980 That's it.
00:07:20.980 Like I'm not globalising anything.
00:07:21.980 Nobody's disputing what you've been through and your reality.
00:07:23.980 But it does sound like it comes from pain.
00:07:25.980 Because what I'm hearing is that society has conditioned us to be selfish.
00:07:29.980 What do you mean you don't owe the world nothing?
00:07:31.980 I don't.
00:07:32.980 Okay, the world owe.
00:07:33.980 You don't like the world.
00:07:34.980 All right.
00:07:35.980 And next, we'll use another word.
00:07:36.980 But you still, as human beings, we have a biological necessity to create with each other.
00:07:41.980 It's just the point.
00:07:42.980 We need to continue this earth.
00:07:43.980 We need to evolve.
00:07:44.980 We need to grow.
00:07:45.980 We need to develop.
00:07:46.980 Our offspring needs to teach us new things.
00:07:47.980 Like that's a very important thing.
00:07:49.980 Like this world is very tough.
00:07:51.980 It's hard.
00:07:52.980 It's so hard for women and for men.
00:07:54.980 Nobody struggles bigger than nobody else.
00:07:56.980 I've probably been through 10 times more than people in this room.
00:07:59.980 But I have a very positive perspective of life.
00:08:02.980 I do owe my society something.
00:08:04.980 If I'm in a room full of you guys, I do owe you something.
00:08:06.980 I do owe you good energy.
00:08:07.980 Well, children, though.
00:08:08.980 I do owe you good energy.
00:08:09.980 But that comes with it.
00:08:10.980 Through women comes love.
00:08:11.980 But that was the question, darling.
00:08:12.980 Through women comes love.
00:08:13.980 And that was the question.
00:08:14.980 Comes reproduction.
00:08:15.980 And we do have, it's a biological necessity for us to produce.
00:08:19.980 We're here.
00:08:20.980 We're creators.
00:08:21.980 We're powerful.
00:08:22.980 We're women. 1.00
00:08:23.980 That is one of our biggest things to do.
00:08:24.980 My mom's life path on this earth was to be a mother. 0.95
00:08:27.980 And she's been through the worst of losing three kids before she had my brother.
00:08:31.980 Then she had my brother.
00:08:32.980 18 years later.
00:08:33.980 Then she lost two more before me.
00:08:34.980 Then she had me.
00:08:35.980 She had to pray at a gravestone just to be a mother. 0.99
00:08:37.980 And I was born.
00:08:38.980 So I think it's very important that we as women should actually take on that role.
00:08:42.980 That's what we're here to do.
00:08:43.980 This is us.
00:08:44.980 This is our power to love and to grow and to transform life.
00:08:49.980 Like, stop with this selfish thing.
00:08:51.980 I don't know what the world has done to everybody.
00:08:53.980 It's all about me.
00:08:54.980 It's all about me.
00:08:55.980 See where life takes us with that.
00:08:56.980 Why do you think that's such a common mentality that we don't owe society anything?
00:09:01.980 Because we've been conditioned to be selfish.
00:09:03.980 We get so far apart from each other, so torn apart from each other.
00:09:07.980 We don't trust.
00:09:08.980 We're not easy to give our hand.
00:09:10.980 We're not that type of people anymore.
00:09:12.980 We're not trying to connect.
00:09:13.980 If we actually connected, we realize that creation is the biggest part of life.
00:09:18.980 We're in a room of creatives.
00:09:20.980 Like, we can't deny our human necessity and need just because we're selfish because we care about our career.
00:09:25.980 All these things are not going to be there when we're dead.
00:09:27.980 All it cares about is our soul and what we've left.
00:09:30.980 I think a lot of it is, obviously, as well to do with our environments.
00:09:33.980 Like, for example, myself, growing up in Brazil and then moving to the UK, like, you know, I live in a predominantly Jewish area.
00:09:42.980 And I noticed that the majority of the Jewish, like, families have many, many kids, you know, probably like on average four or five.
00:09:49.980 I don't know. I lose count.
00:09:50.980 But I think, obviously, it's a hard question to, you know, because the question is directed at women, should they reproduce?
00:09:57.980 I think definitely because I think we do owe something to society based on what's happened in the past.
00:10:02.980 I think a lot of things are not our fault, but we can be part of that change.
00:10:07.980 I think it's obviously hard for me as a man to be the judge of that.
00:10:11.980 But I'd like to empower and support women where I can.
00:10:15.980 I personally think if I don't have a child, someone else will.
00:10:20.980 So there's always going to be somebody that does.
00:10:22.980 There's always going to be recreation.
00:10:24.980 Always.
00:10:25.980 Personally.
00:10:26.980 Because I'm single.
00:10:27.980 I don't have a child.
00:10:28.980 I genuinely thought at 28, I would have had a kid by now.
00:10:32.980 But my career is more important at the moment.
00:10:36.980 And I do want children, but not right now.
00:10:38.980 But while I'm still focusing on my career, there's a lot of other women getting pregnant right now. 1.00
00:10:44.980 Literally.
00:10:45.980 Yeah, but I think it's actually, we're having less kids than ever in history.
00:10:49.980 Yeah.
00:10:50.980 So I guess the question is, if the population's collapsing because women aren't having kids, does it become women's duty to have children?
00:10:57.980 Do we owe society, do we owe civilization children?
00:11:01.980 No.
00:11:02.980 Handmaid's Tale.
00:11:03.980 No.
00:11:04.980 I didn't say Handmaid's Tale, but your answer is no.
00:11:08.980 I'll let you go next.
00:11:09.980 But your answer is no.
00:11:11.980 You don't think so?
00:11:12.980 No.
00:11:13.980 Fair enough.
00:11:14.980 Go ahead.
00:11:15.980 If it turns out that the only way that a cultural group can motivate women to have children is by forcing them, then the only cultural groups that exist in the future will be the cultural groups that force women to have children. 0.68
00:11:26.980 And this is something we're increasingly seeing in places like China.
00:11:29.980 You know, if we see society today as an alliance of disparate cultural groups, and we're asking why do so few people have children today?
00:11:36.980 The dominant cultural group.
00:11:37.980 We call that the urban monoculture.
00:11:38.980 It's the culture that's in London, New York, all over the world today.
00:11:41.980 It controls our media, it controls our centers of power.
00:11:43.980 It tells people do what you want, be who you want, search for your happiness and your purpose in the world, but it doesn't tell people to sacrifice.
00:11:51.980 And children require sacrifice.
00:11:54.980 And so what we do with the Pronatalist Foundation, sometimes it makes it so clear by, you know, I could never be a Noah, right?
00:12:01.980 Because I'm like, hey, we want to maintain and hopefully increase this beautiful diversity that makes up our culture today.
00:12:08.980 And then, you know, like, if I was Noah, like a unicorn comes up to me and it's like, hey, man, like, this is some pretty hateful stuff you're saying that we need to get fertility rates up.
00:12:16.980 And I'm like, whoa, you don't need to get on the boat.
00:12:19.980 Like, I'm just pointing out that in a world of collapsing fertility and to give an idea of how quickly fertility is collapsing.
00:12:25.980 If so, I started caring about this when I was working in South Korea at South Korea's current fertility rate.
00:12:30.980 If it doesn't continue to go down for every hundred Koreans, there's going to be six great grandchildren. 0.99
00:12:34.980 If the U.S., if we assume that it continues to decline at the rate it did from 2010 to 2020, for every hundred Americans, this is assuming we have a generation every 30 years, for every hundred Americans, there's going to be 4.3 great grandchildren.
00:12:45.980 And so what's so cool about this period in history that we're in is anyone who can motivate intergenerational fertility rates.
00:12:51.980 And when I say intergenerational, you can't just, like, spam sex and have a bunch of kids or something.
00:12:55.980 You have to love those kids.
00:12:57.980 You have to make them want to continue your culture.
00:13:00.980 Anyone who's doing that gets to play a role in this future of humanity and gets to play an outsized role due to collapsing fertility rates.
00:13:10.980 What are the ways that you best see we can motivate people to have more children?
00:13:14.980 The number one thing we need to do is protect any country you go to.
00:13:17.980 You go to the U.K., you go to the U.S., anywhere you go, there's going to be high fertility cultural groups.
00:13:22.980 The problem is, from the perspective of the urban monoculture, is these groups are deplorable.
00:13:27.980 You know, they are conservative Catholics.
00:13:29.980 They're conservative evangelicals.
00:13:30.980 They're Orthodox Jews, you know, as he was talking about.
00:13:33.980 And so it sees its job because they're different.
00:13:35.980 You know, anyone who's different from an individual's culture, it says, we've got to stamp them out. 0.99
00:13:39.980 And so it takes their kids and it stamps out their culture and it says, just do whatever you want to be happy in the moment.
00:13:45.980 Which none of these these older disparate, you know, high fertility traditions, Amish, et cetera, do, you know.
00:13:50.980 And so I think the number one thing we need to do is we need to protect the children of high fertility cultures in any sort of deviant cultural group that says, look, I want to do things differently than what society is telling me the way to do it.
00:14:01.980 Because I don't think society has things figured out right now.
00:14:03.980 You know, I look at mental health rates.
00:14:04.980 I look at suicide rates.
00:14:05.980 I look at, you know, I don't I don't I don't think that society has the right to say this is the only way to be.
00:14:12.980 And I really love that, you know, the diversity in this room and all of the different ways that people see their their ancestry and their obligation to the future.
00:14:19.980 Yeah, I think we should stop birth control as well for young girls.
00:14:23.980 I think that's one of the biggest reasons why.
00:14:25.980 You're on the you're on the band birth control.
00:14:27.980 I'm with it.
00:14:28.980 Because like that way they'll abstain from sex more because I feel like when you just, oh, yeah, take the pill.
00:14:33.980 I do this. It's all my peers for the pain.
00:14:35.980 No, you're meant to learn. You need to go through the pain.
00:14:37.980 That's the whole point of giving birth, because that that period is literally like a little.
00:14:41.980 Well, they and they put them on. It's so young now.
00:14:44.980 It's so young.
00:14:45.980 So when you hear loads of girls say, I have PCOS, I have this, I have that. 0.82
00:14:48.980 You just turned 30.
00:14:49.980 My mom's like, no, Shan, there's women that like 45 having children in Jamaica, three boys.
00:14:54.980 Yeah. So what's going on there?
00:14:56.980 If you stop the birth control and girls will get more scared to get pregnant. 0.99
00:15:00.980 So they are staying from more sex.
00:15:01.980 It means that they'll have a better future to actually have kids because everything down there is blessed.
00:15:07.980 Well, and a lot of like you meet a lot of girls that like end up having fertility problems later and they can't directly link it like you don't know. 0.84
00:15:15.980 I mean, they don't know for sure, but I know at least one girl that like she was she took one of the shots that they gave her like for like a nest like like the preventative ones or whatever. 0.85
00:15:26.980 And, you know, she can't have kids and she's like 40. 0.99
00:15:29.980 She and she was actually she was she watched me when I was younger.
00:15:32.980 She was so like loving.
00:15:34.980 It's like the saddest thing that she couldn't have children because she would have been a great mom.
00:15:37.980 And it's like you can't find which one to pinpoint it on because they're not they don't make it so clear.
00:15:42.980 Yeah, a lot of women feel like that is what it is. 1.00
00:15:44.980 Another lady told me yesterday.
00:15:45.980 I was having this conversation in my broadcast list.
00:15:47.980 She goes that she went to the doctors and because she keeps taking the morning after pill,
00:15:52.980 he said that it was literally like a bomb waiting to explode inside of her.
00:15:56.980 Yeah.
00:15:57.980 Wait, how many did she take?
00:15:59.980 She took like five within a year, I think.
00:16:02.980 Or I don't know.
00:16:04.980 But it was like what she was like, it's because it's like a bomb because she didn't want to take like the normal thing.
00:16:09.980 And she was in a long term relationship.
00:16:11.980 So there are situations that cause that type of thing.
00:16:13.980 But it's like it was like a bomb.
00:16:15.980 Yeah, it's not good for you.
00:16:16.980 It's even worse than the normal one.
00:16:18.980 Yeah, it's not even.
00:16:19.980 Oh, you should have taken that much.
00:16:20.980 It's just. 0.99
00:16:21.980 Oh, crap. 0.99
00:16:22.980 Like, yeah, this thing is really there's a girl on my show that was infertile because of Plan B's. 0.99
00:16:27.980 Yeah, she couldn't have kids. 0.98
00:16:29.980 I still think there should be a choice, though, with guys and females.
00:16:32.980 Like, I feel like it sucks that we've got to go through everything and take contraceptive when guys should have that option, too.
00:16:39.980 I don't think it should be banned.
00:16:40.980 I think there should be choice always.
00:16:43.980 But I guess my question is, at what cost?
00:16:47.980 If society is collapsing, right, if we're not replacing the population and they predict we're going to have all these issues in the future, it's like, at what cost do we allow people to choose whatever?
00:16:58.980 I'm not saying I have all the answers, but it's worth a conversation asking, do we allow everything and anything?
00:17:04.980 Yeah, well, sorry, I think in terms of going back to your question, do women owe society babies, children? 0.76
00:17:14.980 Yeah.
00:17:15.980 I think the word owe got a lot of people's backs up in there, you know, and I get it.
00:17:20.980 But my personal thing is, do we need to push something back into society for giving us what we have in terms of our livelihoods, our everyday lives, our jobs and blah, blah, blah?
00:17:30.980 Absolutely, because we need to keep this generation going.
00:17:33.980 So I think the word owe, again, it was a bit of a, you know, just one of those, oh, I don't know, you know, basically where you're coming from.
00:17:41.980 That's why a lot of people was a bit upset with it. But again, I'm a father of two, you know, beautiful boys, absolutely.
00:17:50.980 And they teach me things every day. And I also teach them things, you know, and I think having children, obviously, it does fall more on the mom, especially when a dad goes to work and everything.
00:18:01.980 So I understand the pressure of it. But again, I only see the beauty in it as, again, coming from a father's point of view.
00:18:07.980 And even even the word, oh, when you think about it, like, I think you owe society, you know, to be a decent, non crime committing tax paying citizen.
00:18:17.980 Yeah, but we can say that freely. No one would argue. But when you ask about children, there's a gut, you know, it's almost too much.
00:18:25.980 I wanted to add some color to like the plan B thing.
00:18:28.980 And there's so many things in our society now where we think that biologically we're the same as like our grandparents were.
00:18:34.980 But, you know, sperm rates have dropped by something like over 50 percent in the last 51 years.
00:18:39.980 Testosterone's dropped something like 30 percent in the last 20 years.
00:18:42.980 You know, Simone, if you want to talk about the TIDE studies.
00:18:45.980 Yeah, I'm not really sure if you're familiar with them.
00:18:47.980 TIDES, basically a bunch of longitudinal researchers looked at the levels of endocrine disruptors in women who are pregnant first trimester.
00:18:56.980 And then they measured a bunch of things with the children they had afterwards.
00:18:59.980 It turns out that the especially when they were pregnant with boys, they were disproportionately affected by endocrine disruptors,
00:19:04.980 which are in everything from like receipts for picking up to our shampoo, to our lotion, plastic in our water bottles, et cetera.
00:19:10.980 And in addition to boys being born with lower what's called anal genital distance taint, when they were age seven, eight, they had lower.
00:19:20.980 We'll say gender dimorphic lower boy like play. 0.81
00:19:23.980 So they were actually acting less like boys when they were older.
00:19:26.980 So we're seeing a whole generation of young men who've been affected essentially by pollutants in our environment who who knows how else this is showing up.
00:19:33.980 Probably infertility things like Malcolm alluded to.
00:19:35.980 But, you know, I think that this should be reframed.
00:19:37.980 It's not about owing.
00:19:38.980 It's also we have to look at who deserves the future because those who show up for the future are those who inherit it.
00:19:44.980 That's, you know, society is built by those who show up.
00:19:46.980 And those women and men who choose to have families and who choose to raise kids are those who deserve the future.
00:19:52.980 And we are here because people who deserved the future chose to represent themselves in it.
00:19:56.980 So, sorry, sorry, sorry to interrupt.
00:19:58.980 But what do you mean by deserve?
00:19:59.980 Who are you to tell you me I deserve a future?
00:20:02.980 We deserve what we get.
00:20:03.980 No, but who are you to tell me?
00:20:05.980 I'm not telling you anything.
00:20:06.980 It sounds like you may not want the future.
00:20:09.980 No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:20:10.980 I'm asking you a question.
00:20:11.980 From your fairies and what you're saying to me, you're telling me that certain people from the aspects of life, they don't deserve a future. 0.99
00:20:21.980 Who are you to tell me that?
00:20:23.980 We're simply telling you you won't be in the future.
00:20:25.980 I wasn't asking you, my friend.
00:20:26.980 I was asking your missus.
00:20:28.980 I want to know her aspects.
00:20:30.980 I'm not asking you, my brother.
00:20:31.980 I'm asking you, my sister, so I can understand women on a global aspect. 0.95
00:20:37.980 What do you mean by that?
00:20:38.980 Well, he and I are the same person, essentially.
00:20:40.980 I understand that, but I'm not associating you two as the same person.
00:20:46.980 So you have to respect that as me, because you're a woman and he's a man.
00:20:50.980 Well, I think you're kind of moving the goalposts.
00:20:52.980 He answered your question.
00:20:53.980 He didn't.
00:20:54.980 He didn't.
00:20:55.980 He didn't.
00:20:56.980 He didn't, pal.
00:20:57.980 Because you're telling me certain aspects, but I want to know where.
00:21:00.980 Okay, the people that deserve the future are the ones that have kids.
00:21:03.980 Why?
00:21:04.980 Why?
00:21:05.980 Why?
00:21:06.980 Why do you believe that?
00:21:07.980 Because no one else will be.
00:21:08.980 Why do you believe that?
00:21:09.980 Because I'm going to answer.
00:21:10.980 Because no one else will be there.
00:21:11.980 But God give you free will.
00:21:12.980 We know.
00:21:13.980 Are you all about God?
00:21:17.980 But we live in a land that is obliged by the Magna Carta, the God's law.
00:21:23.980 We're in England right now.
00:21:25.980 What are you talking about?
00:21:26.980 I want to see where this goes.
00:21:27.980 It's not what I'm talking about.
00:21:28.980 It's just the law of the land that I'm trying to live by.
00:21:31.980 Okay.
00:21:32.980 So, if you all believe in certain things, how can that resonate with me?
00:21:37.980 Okay, okay.
00:21:38.980 Do you deserve a job if you don't get it?
00:21:40.980 Well, I'll create my own job.
00:21:42.980 No.
00:21:43.980 I'm self-employed.
00:21:44.980 Okay, okay.
00:21:45.980 Do you deserve a job if you don't get the job?
00:21:47.980 What do you mean?
00:21:48.980 Elaborate.
00:21:49.980 It's a pretty simple question.
00:21:50.980 It's not.
00:21:51.980 It's not.
00:21:52.980 It's very simple.
00:21:53.980 Do you deserve a job if you apply for a job and you don't get that job?
00:21:56.980 Well, if you meet the credentials.
00:21:58.980 Do you deserve a job if you don't get the job?
00:22:00.980 If your credentials meet the credentials.
00:22:01.980 Please, yes or no.
00:22:02.980 Do you deserve a job?
00:22:03.980 Do you deserve a job?
00:22:04.980 Do you deserve a job?
00:22:05.980 If your credentials meet the credentials of the job.
00:22:07.980 Yes, you do deserve the job.
00:22:08.980 Why would you deserve it if they didn't, if you didn't get it?
00:22:13.980 It's your decision.
00:22:14.980 But see, that's entitlement.
00:22:15.980 It's your choice.
00:22:16.980 And that's why I said God gave you free will.
00:22:18.980 So, just like if I go for a job like me and my brother next to me and we have the same characteristics
00:22:24.980 and the same qualifications, it's for you to decide who you want to take that position.
00:22:29.980 What two people have the same characteristics?
00:22:33.980 There's a lot of people.
00:22:35.980 There's a lot of people that go for the same job, that come from the same area, that have the same characteristics.
00:22:41.980 Because the majority of the characteristics we have.
00:22:43.980 The exact, the exact, the exact same characteristics.
00:22:45.980 No.
00:22:46.980 Similar characteristics.
00:22:47.980 Okay, but one would be.
00:22:48.980 But it's not characteristics that get you the job, doesn't it?
00:22:52.980 It's your, it's your.
00:22:53.980 I would hire the guy in a nicer suit just because he showed up ready and professional.
00:22:57.980 Okay.
00:22:58.980 That's my take on it.
00:22:59.980 So you hire me then, right?
00:23:00.980 Exactly.
00:23:01.980 So I'll get the job.
00:23:02.980 Yeah.
00:23:03.980 Okay.
00:23:04.980 But away from getting the job, it's what your core foundations are and what you believe in.
00:23:11.980 Can I, can I expect to talk to your point?
00:23:14.980 I thought it was really interesting what he said is that like, um, the sporadic populations
00:23:18.980 tend to like be overrepresented in the population because they have more kids.
00:23:21.980 And there's like a really interesting like thesis behind that, right?
00:23:24.980 Because, you know, look, look at like a lot of the problems we have with society today can be distilled
00:23:29.980 down to one variable.
00:23:30.980 I'll tell you what the variable is, but let me build up to it, right?
00:23:32.980 Like we say, oh, we have too much carbon.
00:23:34.980 And that comes back to too much people.
00:23:36.980 You know, we have too much consumption of meat.
00:23:38.980 And that comes back to too many people eating meat.
00:23:40.980 Let's feed them bugs. 1.00
00:23:41.980 We have too many kids.
00:23:42.980 Let's give everybody birth control. 1.00
00:23:44.980 Everything comes back to humans are the problem.
00:23:48.980 And that's what we see in the big cities.
00:23:50.980 But the populations he's talking about, he's, they're not saying humans are the problem.
00:23:54.980 They're saying humans are the point.
00:23:56.980 Got it.
00:23:57.980 So why, why are we?
00:23:58.980 So it's like, and this goes back to the issue of like, do I owe anything to anyone?
00:24:01.980 Right?
00:24:02.980 Exactly.
00:24:03.980 And I was kind of thinking about it this morning.
00:24:04.980 Like, you know, sir, we all serve somebody or something.
00:24:07.980 Maybe you serve God.
00:24:08.980 Maybe you serve your boss, your spouse. 0.59
00:24:10.980 Maybe you just serve yourself.
00:24:11.980 Fine.
00:24:12.980 You know, we're going to go from Ayn Rand all the way to the most, you know, theological views.
00:24:16.980 We all serve somebody, but servitude without gratitude is resentment.
00:24:19.980 Facts.
00:24:20.980 And so the point to me is like, it's like, I don't owe anybody anything.
00:24:22.980 And I look at it and I think like, well, you probably owe your tailor a little bit because
00:24:26.980 he's making you look sharp.
00:24:27.980 Doesn't he?
00:24:28.980 Is that not fair?
00:24:29.980 You probably owe, you probably owe Pearl.
00:24:31.980 Hang on.
00:24:32.980 You probably owe Pearl for giving you this platform to talk to the world and share your views.
00:24:34.980 Cool.
00:24:35.980 Cool.
00:24:36.980 Gratitude is gratitude.
00:24:37.980 Gratitude is gratitude.
00:24:38.980 I just wanted to say.
00:24:39.980 Hold on, brother.
00:24:40.980 Sure.
00:24:41.980 Hold on, brother.
00:24:42.980 Pick your words.
00:24:43.980 Really pick your words specifically.
00:24:45.980 English literature is a dangerous thing.
00:24:47.980 You're telling me, Oh, I don't owe no one nothing.
00:24:51.980 You're telling me to give gratitude.
00:24:53.980 Gratitude is different.
00:24:54.980 But you need owing someone.
00:24:56.980 I postulate the gratitude and gratitude and debt.
00:25:01.980 Owing this means I'm obliged to pay you something.
00:25:04.980 And I'm not obliged.
00:25:05.980 I think you owe a lot of people.
00:25:07.980 I think you owe your community something.
00:25:09.980 Why?
00:25:10.980 Why?
00:25:11.980 Because society is better when you're selfless and it's not a me, me, me culture.
00:25:15.980 What is society?
00:25:16.980 What is society, pal?
00:25:17.980 Explain to me.
00:25:18.980 Do you owe anything to yourself?
00:25:19.980 Do you owe anything to yourself?
00:25:20.980 No, I don't think to myself.
00:25:21.980 I'm a very, I'm a very spiritual person.
00:25:23.980 I go to church every Saturday and I pray and I'll give homage to my ancestors and my forefathers.
00:25:30.980 But what do I owe anyone?
00:25:32.980 Be careful what you're talking about and what you're saying.
00:25:36.980 I do not owe anyone nothing.
00:25:38.980 Do you owe God something, right?
00:25:40.980 Okay.
00:25:41.980 Yeah.
00:25:42.980 That's something different from us.
00:25:43.980 No, it's not.
00:25:44.980 From a being.
00:25:45.980 Yes, it is.
00:25:46.980 It isn't.
00:25:47.980 Yeah, it is.
00:25:48.980 Because God is the Elohim. 0.98
00:25:49.980 Don't tell me what my perspective is on life.
00:25:51.980 But it's still Owing.
00:25:52.980 I'm not talking about humanity.
00:25:54.980 I'm talking about myself.
00:25:55.980 Timmy Grant.
00:25:56.980 I'm going to let him go.
00:25:57.980 I'm going to let him go.
00:25:58.980 Go ahead.
00:25:59.980 Yeah.
00:26:00.980 I think that we can say like, okay, who deserves to be in the future?
00:26:02.980 And I think that that's even the wrong question.
00:26:04.980 Who is going to be in the future?
00:26:06.980 God gave us one of the most beautiful gifts.
00:26:08.980 We can't just decide not to die.
00:26:10.980 The greatest gift he gave us or one of the greatest is death.
00:26:13.980 And it's one of the greatest gifts he gave us in this intergenerational cycle we get to be a part of.
00:26:18.980 Because I get to look everywhere in the world and find anyone I want to.
00:26:22.980 Like the best person I want to.
00:26:24.980 To mix my genes with.
00:26:25.980 To fix my flaws.
00:26:26.980 And then I get to give the next iteration of myself any childhood I want to.
00:26:30.980 The best childhood I can imagine for them.
00:26:32.980 And then on top of all that, I get to tell them what I believe.
00:26:36.980 And the most beautiful thing is they can say, no, you believe that because of some prejudice due to when you were growing up or some bias due to your childhood.
00:26:43.980 The slate gets wiped clean and they can improve upon me in a way that I could never improve upon myself.
00:26:50.980 And that's why I love this cycle.
00:26:52.980 But I think that, you know, to talk about it in terms of what's owed or what not owed.
00:26:56.980 We're just trying to point out that if you don't have kids, then if you can, if you can work to like help your brother raise their kids, right?
00:27:03.980 Then people like you might exist in the future, right?
00:27:05.980 But then to stay stable, your brother has to have like five, six kids and you need to be helping with that.
00:27:09.980 You know, you can't be helping with your brother's two kids because then there's going to be half of you in the future between you and your brother.
00:27:13.980 No, no, I'm not, I'm interjecting with that.
00:27:15.980 Wait, let him, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:27:19.980 Why can't you be the best uncle and not the best dad?
00:27:20.980 You have one rule, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
00:27:24.980 You can, you can be a great uncle.
00:27:25.980 What I'm saying is if you're a great uncle and you want to be stable in a population, so 2.1 is a stable fertility rate, so that means you would need to be a great uncle to a sibling with five kids.
00:27:36.980 Okay, my brother, so say if you couldn't have children, so say if your sperm count and all of that stuff was not scientifically, scientifically imbalanced.
00:27:45.980 Okay, I need you, I need you, I need you, I need you, I need you, I need you to stop interrupting everybody.
00:27:51.980 I need you to stop interrupting everybody.
00:27:53.980 Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm passionate.
00:27:55.980 I understand you're passionate, but you need to control your emotions.
00:27:58.980 Let him talk.
00:27:59.980 By the way, you know, you made a really interesting point about like the number, the number you need to reproduce in order to keep the population stable, 2.1.
00:28:05.980 Um, and that's sort, there's like a few logical steps here.
00:28:08.980 I'm not going to go too deep into it, but there's a fundamentally big difference between a dad and an uncle.
00:28:12.980 There's a lot of ways to be a bad dad.
00:28:14.980 There's only one way to be a bad uncle.
00:28:16.980 So let's raise the bar.
00:28:18.980 Okay.
00:28:19.980 What do you mean by that, bro?
00:28:21.980 You want me to explain how you'd be a bad uncle?
00:28:24.980 I really do want to understand because this is what it's about.
00:28:26.980 That's what we're here.
00:28:27.980 I'm not trying to argue.
00:28:29.980 I'm trying to understand.
00:28:30.980 So in my life, I'm a, I'm the best person I can be.
00:28:34.980 I, I want to be clear.
00:28:35.980 You know, when we talk about, you know, having kids and stuff like that, it's not just sperm.
00:28:39.980 It is hard to find a partner out there in the world today. 0.97
00:28:41.980 If you're a young guy, you know, people hear me and they go, wow, you're black built.
00:28:45.980 I saw a tweet and I totally agree with it.
00:28:47.980 Being in a happy relationship as a millennial, it feels like catching the last chopper at a nom.
00:28:51.980 You know, it is hard out there.
00:28:53.980 Okay.
00:28:54.980 And there are some people who just do something totally outside of their control.
00:28:57.980 Not even like they're infertile.
00:28:58.980 Maybe they're, they're short.
00:28:59.980 Right.
00:29:00.980 And, and, and they just can't get a partner.
00:29:02.980 Maybe, you know, who knows?
00:29:03.980 It's, it's hard out there.
00:29:04.980 And there are ways that you can contribute to your community and make it easier for the
00:29:09.980 people in your community who want to exist in the future.
00:29:11.980 It is not for everyone to be a father or a mother.
00:29:14.980 There are many ways we can contribute to the next generation.
00:29:17.980 And I just encourage people to think about that.
00:29:19.980 Like, how can I contribute to my community instead of how can I, you know, chase the Joneses
00:29:24.980 on, you know, TikTok and all these vanity marketplaces we have where we can pair ourselves.
00:29:29.980 So you've just answered the question, bro.
00:29:30.980 You've answered the question.
00:29:31.980 I was going to say.
00:29:32.980 So no one don't owe no one for nothing.
00:29:33.980 Can I, can I say, I was literally about to say, I feel, I'm so happy you said that because
00:29:37.980 I feel like it's so important to pinpoint that it's bigger than just having a baby.
00:29:42.980 Like it's bigger than just getting pregnant and then like it's about finding somebody.
00:29:47.980 Me personally, I'm not having no kids until I'm married.
00:29:49.980 Like, and I stand by that.
00:29:50.980 Like it's not happening.
00:29:51.980 There's no way around it.
00:29:52.980 So if I don't find my man and that's my husband and I know that, you know, this is the person
00:29:58.980 that, okay, cool.
00:29:59.980 As many of you know, I was just banned on TikTok and we are demonetized on a daily basis
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